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Quote from: Eternad on July 27, 2023, 10:02:10 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on July 27, 2023, 08:07:19 AM

I am now with the Talon Esports and Team Liquid.

This match is on fire. I thought Talon will gonna lose game 2 against Team Liquid since 23Savage got a lot of early deaths and behind net worth but he is so good on recovering as if he doesn’t have a rough start. The game is now on game 3 and I believe Talon can get this reverse sweep after that last performance on game 2.

Micke Sven doesn’t contribute much damage because he can’t position properly due to Mars Arena and ET disables. What a nice game for Talon.

WTF just happened on Game 3 of this match, Talon ignored Zai while Mikoto can TP on the base and place remnant to return easily on enemy base. They completely disrespected broodmother pushing capabilities that cost them game which should be they got already if someone respo in their instead of GG push since Void and Pango is already without buyback.

I’m happy that Liquid but I’m just too confused on why Talon compete on broodma for base race.

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Quote from: sunsilk on July 27, 2023, 08:07:19 AM

I am now with the Talon Esports and Team Liquid.

This match is on fire. I thought Talon will gonna lose game 2 against Team Liquid since 23Savage got a lot of early deaths and behind net worth but he is so good on recovering as if he doesn’t have a rough start. The game is now on game 3 and I believe Talon can get this reverse sweep after that last performance on game 2.

Micke Sven doesn’t contribute much damage because he can’t position properly due to Mars Arena and ET disables. What a nice game for Talon.

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Quote from: ralle14 on July 26, 2023, 12:31:14 PM

Unfortunate loss on my over 2.5 as PSG.LGD played like trash in those two games.

I feel you. Their losses are unjustifiable. It's like they're not the usual PSG.LGD that we get to know. In the present, Team Secret is also out and lost to 9Pandas for two games.

I am now with the Talon Esports and Team Liquid.

This is just the first game and we've got the last series later which is BetBoom and Team Spirit.

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Quote from: dbshck on July 25, 2023, 10:39:05 AM

Betting on some upsets here considering it's a BO1 match.

6/8, decent and profitable calls finally Cheesy

Quote from: Balmain on July 26, 2023, 12:13:27 PM

I wonder how Apeks and monte will start their new roster this season. They were both teams that had a pretty good major.

Right. Probably won't see as good a result as major from them due to their roster change. Going against another top 20 teams would be competitive, but I don't think they could stand a chance against the likes of Heroic, Navi, and FaZe.

Quote from: Balmain on July 26, 2023, 12:13:27 PM

In my opinion, if Navi holds a chemistry and can provide a good flow, they will win the cup, but I can say that it depends on s1mple, it makes me think whether it will be compatible with the team.

I surely hope Navi can secure one spot at the playoff too. Finger crossed for them.

My picks for the second day. Secured that Mongolz upset earlier against ITB. Looks like ITB roster change was a bad move.

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Quote from: arallmuus on July 26, 2023, 04:44:48 PM

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This series might be the most action-packed series we have today unless Aster and EG could replicate that same intense series.

Nah, Aster was too good for EG. The prizepool is so silly though that any team that got eliminated wouldnt even feel bad about themselves with all those cash that they got from the playoff stage.

You can't say that. The size of the price pool arguably makes it even more important to progress further, every next step pays so much more that it could have put even more pressure on their shoulders.

Anyway this tournament continues to be much harder for me to call then the ones before. Whenever I am thinking somebody should win easy they loose at least a map and when I think it will be a close match it ends 2:0. I was sure PSG.LGD and EG would take at least one map yesterday and I thought GG should do it clean and they were almost out.

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I think its a given they will need to develop their potential and teamwork but seem to be doing ok so far.
I went with what I thought was simple multibet of Astralis and ITB but I might have rushed it as with new team arrangement its all a bit more risky. Thats a really bad loss for ITB to a good team but still should be closer then that to maintain confidence going forward. Even Astralis we'll have to see how well they holding up.

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Quote from: ralle14 on July 26, 2023, 12:31:14 PM

This series might be the most action-packed series we have today unless Aster and EG could replicate that same intense series.

Nah, Aster was too good for EG. The prizepool is so silly though that any team that got eliminated wouldnt even feel bad about themselves with all those cash that they got from the playoff stage.

Anyway, I personally think that this is going to be over 2.5 maps for all 3 games tomorrow. I would want to put -1.5 for 9pandas against Secret but sometimes Secret really surprise me so yeah its 2.5 maps for me

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IEM Cologne Play-in tournament has started.
NiP managed to comfortably defeat their opponent ITB on the ancient map. The NiP team played well as a team and seemed to have gotten used to each other.
Things are still not going well for the Mouz team. If Torzsi hadn't performed so well, they would have lost to the Mongols. Torzsi, who managed to get exactly 50 kills, managed to be the name that backed his team and they defeated their opponent in overtime.
Fnatic played their first official match with their new roster. Although they did not give a bad impression, they managed to win the match with mezii's good performance.

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Unfortunate loss on my over 2.5 as PSG.LGD played like trash in those two games.

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Super solid game between Tundra and GG. A very close game and I thought GG was already finished since they got a bad start. GG is always so good on recovering and manage to find a way to reverse the outcome of the game. Dryacho Medusa is so hard hitter on this game that makes Skitter Brood looks like a pos 3 with so squishy on dusa hits.

Tundra made a mistake by giving GG a breathing room to recover on the late game. I didn't place a bet on this match but I have high hopes for GG here since I'm expecting BB vs GG in the grand finals. It's worth the wit watching this match.

That comeback in the third game was unbelievable from Gaimin Gladiators. After losing several team fights in the early to mid game I thought they were guaranteed to lose because they're lacking the damage with Medusa always dying first but Tundra bit off more than they can chew in that one high ground siege in the bottom lane diving near the tier 4 towers of Gaimin and dying unnecessarily. This series might be the most action-packed series we have today unless Aster and EG could replicate that same intense series.

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Quote from: dbshck on July 25, 2023, 10:39:05 AM

IEM Cologne 2023 Play-in starts tomorrow. Excited to see how the dark horse teams from the major, like ITB and Monte, perform after some roster changes and the season break. Here's my pick for the first round of the play-in tomorrow. Betting on some upsets here considering it's a BO1 match.

Quote from: execijutiere on July 24, 2023, 02:15:07 PM

G2 is actually a really good team when we look at their roster, but it is obvious that there is still something that is not in order.I think they will continue to get bad results in tournaments if they do not resolve this as soon as possible and get healthy.

Agree, with all those raw talents in Niko, Monesy and jks. Hard to see them struggling a bit like this.

Anyway, moving on, what's your favorite pick for Cologne? Group B (Navi, Vitality, G2, Faze) is so stacked, not even counting the teams from the play-in stage, but only 3 can make it to the playoffs. Feels bad.

I have the same excitement. We were able to see the performances of Tier 1 teams in the new season, albeit a little. We watched some teams in Navi, Vitality and NA, and there are important changes in those teams. Your choices look very good, first of all I wish you luck. Now I'm going to make my comment. Among your choices, I might be a little skeptical about the BIG vs APEX and Monte vs IMPERIAL matches. Especially in this tournament, I wonder how Apeks and monte will start their new roster this season. They were both teams that had a pretty good major.

Group B at IEM Cologne 2023 is truly a lethal group. I think the teams that will face those teams will be eliminated directly. Between these four teams passes the final stages. If you ask which one will do the best grade. In Blast Premier, I was able to analyze the teams a little bit. In my opinion, if Navi holds a chemistry and can provide a good flow, they will win the cup, but I can say that it depends on s1mple, it makes me think whether it will be compatible with the team. FaZe looks pretty fit on the other hand, especially Ropz.

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Super solid game between Tundra and GG. A very close game and I thought GG was already finished since they got a bad start. GG is always so good on recovering and manage to find a way to reverse the outcome of the game. Dryacho Medusa is so hard hitter on this game that makes Skitter Brood looks like a pos 3 with so squishy on dusa hits.

Tundra made a mistake by giving GG a breathing room to recover on the late game. I didn't place a bet on this match but I have high hopes for GG here since I'm expecting BB vs GG in the grand finals. It's worth the wit watching this match.

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PSG.LGD is going to go home with $300,000. Why is this tournament isn't like a sad ending when a team goes home and is kicked out of the tournament? It's because the prizes are just too high for a tournament and even the lowest has taken a good amount of money. It was a 2-0 for Quest Esports and looks easy when they've stomped the defending champion. Yes, PSG.LGD was the Riyadh Masters 2022 grand champion.
Quest moves on to the next bracket and waits on the winner of the match of Tundra and GG which is happening now.

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Quote from: arallmuus on July 25, 2023, 03:42:14 PM

On another side, BB is currently losing the 1st map Roll Eyes

and I thought I was lucky to catch that high odds. On top of that, Rollbit actually let me cash those out before the game even began for 1.01x which is silly because all I know is that you are losing some money when you cash them out before the game so it kinda sparked my attention there as I thought this is going to be easy money tonight but I guess I'll keep on watching this and see how this turns out

I had BB -1.5 on their series and I thought my bet was cooked when I saw 9 Pandas cruising with a big networth lead. I regret riding them out in the second map as they went for an experimental draft and thought it was still the group stage. Tongue

The over 2.5 remains to be the trend and i'll continue betting on that since it's go big or go home for both teams in the lower bracket with big money on the line and their last meeting in the group stage was 1-1.

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Quote from: ralle14 on July 24, 2023, 07:50:40 PM

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Quest would've been a good catch when they opened at 1.70, but the odds already went down (1.5-1.45), so i'm leaning on the over 2.5 @1.95 as well. BB winning 2-0 is priced at 2.30 the bookies are generous to put it this high, but I guess they're not sold over BB's dominant performance in the groups.

Yeah and Im glad that I took over 2.5 maps on Talon vs Quest

On another side, BB is currently losing the 1st map Roll Eyes

and I thought I was lucky to catch that high odds. On top of that, Rollbit actually let me cash those out before the game even began for 1.01x which is silly because all I know is that you are losing some money when you cash them out before the game so it kinda sparked my attention there as I thought this is going to be easy money tonight but I guess I'll keep on watching this and see how this turns out

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What cool match between GG and Liquid on the Upper Bracket of Riyadh Master. Liquid finally break the curse of losing consistently to GG for a long time in different tournament that they met each other. Liquid manage to have a good draft against GG and Nisha beat Quinn on mid lane on all 3 games which the big factor on Liquid success.

This is my first time to win a bet with Liquid against GG. I hesitated to bet on -1.5 but ML
Liquid pick is still a solid pick so far. I’m hoping that GG will bounce back again on Lower Bracket until finals. I thought the game will gonna be a comeback for GG since Dryacho and Quinn already catch up on late game but Liquid manage to end the game by pressuring the mid and use all their utilities including cheese, refresher and aegis to pressure GG to commit on that last team fight. What a game.

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IEM Cologne 2023 Play-in starts tomorrow. Excited to see how the dark horse teams from the major, like ITB and Monte, perform after some roster changes and the season break. Here's my pick for the first round of the play-in tomorrow. Betting on some upsets here considering it's a BO1 match.

Quote from: execijutiere on July 24, 2023, 02:15:07 PM

G2 is actually a really good team when we look at their roster, but it is obvious that there is still something that is not in order.I think they will continue to get bad results in tournaments if they do not resolve this as soon as possible and get healthy.

Agree, with all those raw talents in Niko, Monesy and jks. Hard to see them struggling a bit like this.

Anyway, moving on, what's your favorite pick for Cologne? Group B (Navi, Vitality, G2, Faze) is so stacked, not even counting the teams from the play-in stage, but only 3 can make it to the playoffs. Feels bad.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on July 24, 2023, 06:49:53 PM

I'm extremely excited for the playoffs now. I did small bets for tomorrow's games.
I am still looking forward to seeing your "match winners" bets guys, please share so we can discuss and bet if we're convinced.

For the upper bracket tomorrow, I am afraid to bet on some match winners because of the odds and unexpected wins of the upper bracket teams even if they are a team who already made a lot of losses.
The best example is Team Liquid, last days of the group stage, they really did well and made them to be in the upper bracket.

You already won your first bet. I am confused about who to bet between those teams but my heart wants Quest it won't be easy so 3 maps was a perfect bet.

I bet on GG here. Liquid might have won games lately but between its matches with GG, they are always no match. They met a lot in many finals this year and I doubt the outcome will change this time.

I also have ML bets on Team Spirit and BetBoom as well. BetBoom is my favorite team to have a real chance of giving GG a tough series. GG already swept all the majors and big tournaments this season and we'll see if it remains perfect by taking Riyadh Masters as well.

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G2 - NaVi was a really competitive matchup as you can understand from the results of the maps as well. Maybe NaVi won by 2-0 but it ended 16-14 on Inferno and Mirage both. G2 were worse on T-side on both maps which gave their opponent an advantage. Besides NaVi made a fresh start with a new roster to a new adventure. G2 could have taken advantage of that by showing a better team performance maybe. But NaVi made a really good progress in such as short time.

s1mple and b1t carried their team on Inferno by being the most fraggers. On Mirage there was a really good team effort with similar stats on NaVi side and it was enough to win that map as well. NiKo and huNter's 30-frag performances weren't enough to extend the series to decider.

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Quote from: dimonstration on July 24, 2023, 11:22:01 AM

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This is also the last day for the group stages and likely Tundra is going to go home whether they win against Team Secret. But I don't know if that's going to be right, just 1 more game for all of these games that are having a match now and we'll see if there will be another decider aside from what I have mentioned.

No, Tundra has a chance to get the last spot for the lower bracket on their group since they manage to join the triple tie breaker against TSM and Shopify when they get 1-1 against Secret while TSM and Shopify sweep both their respective match.

Tiebreaker is on right now with TSM already got their first win agains Shopify.

TSM and Shopify Rebellion were out yesterday and you're right that it was Tundra that got in on the lower bracket.

Going back to the present match, I've just watched the first game of Talon Esports and Quest Esports. This is what I like about Dota 2, this match is hype.

Talon was visible to win the game but then Quest Esports was able to defend the tree for so long, I thought that comeback was real but still Talon proclaimed and won the 1st game.

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Quote from: arallmuus on July 24, 2023, 04:58:25 PM

Im not sure about Quest because Talon is a team that could easily turn the tide around. Totally not the type of team that is on par with all the other top teams right now but they have the potential to shaken up some expectation so I might take over 2.5 maps on this game but BB is definitely going to win 2-0 for sure though

Quest would've been a good catch when they opened at 1.70, but the odds already went down (1.5-1.45), so i'm leaning on the over 2.5 @1.95 as well. BB winning 2-0 is priced at 2.30 the bookies are generous to put it this high, but I guess they're not sold over BB's dominant performance in the groups.

Quote from: jakelyson on July 24, 2023, 03:34:30 PM

Aster vs Team Spirit is also hard to predict who will win. I probably will go to +1.5 on these matches.

Their series is the only one close to even while the rest have a clear favorite, so going +1.5 on the underdogs is worth a shot, as they're sitting at 1.52~.

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