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It's live now. Liquid is leading the match right now but panda is slowly catch up liquid's gold. TL is always invade panda's jungle. I think that the winner for the first match can be known easily. TL is fully dominating panda at this moment.

Pandal is still waiting for a blunder that gonna be made by TL.

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Quote from: ralle14 on July 07, 2023, 07:13:51 PM

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2nd map was hard for Tundra and it was an almost win for Team Liquid. I thought that the game will be up to three but on the 2nd map, the Tundra was able to come back. A meepo mid and a broodmother carry and then a support visage did it all, 33's darkseer was also fat on this game.

That successful high ground defense from Tundra shifted the momentum and the networth lead that Team Liquid accumulated didn't matter anymore as their healing lineup started to fall off.

One mistake and all of the gold lead is gone. Tundra is always like this, always unpredictable. But having an incomplete roster as saksa isn't there, the plays made it even better. Team Liquid for sure have learned a lot from this match and if they're on the lead and they'll be able to end the game, they should have ended it as soon as possible but well, even if they want to if the defense on hg is through tough still they just can't. Experience wise, Tundra really knows well on situations like those.

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Quote from: passwordnow on July 07, 2023, 06:45:51 PM

2nd map was hard for Tundra and it was an almost win for Team Liquid. I thought that the game will be up to three but on the 2nd map, the Tundra was able to come back. A meepo mid and a broodmother carry and then a support visage did it all, 33's darkseer was also fat on this game.

That successful high ground defense from Tundra shifted the momentum and the networth lead that Team Liquid accumulated didn't matter anymore as their healing lineup started to fall off.

Quote from: dimonstration on July 07, 2023, 01:09:16 PM

Sadly, This didn’t go well as expected. I’m a Team Liquid fan too on this tournament but somehow Tundra manage to beat them 2 game straight with both long game. It's a sign that Tundra know how to play against Team Liquid because they knew how to counter them every play.

TL also got overconfident taking fights when they're down a hero while Tundra is always grouped up as five.

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Quote from: boltz on July 07, 2023, 01:20:20 PM

I was so sure of Liquid victory today that I place two consecutive bets on them to win both maps and both of them were a loss. Now , I think Liquid drafted like that intentionally because they had a clear advantage in early-mid game and no advantage during the late them and that cost them both maps in the end. Undecided

2nd map was hard for Tundra and it was an almost win for Team Liquid. I thought that the game will be up to three but on the 2nd map, the Tundra was able to come back. A meepo mid and a broodmother carry and then a support visage did it all, 33's darkseer was also fat on this game.

Quote from: boltz on July 07, 2023, 01:20:20 PM

Then , I was hoping for Quest to win but as soon as I saw Ace with his Doom , I knew that GG was going to win in the end but Quest do have a very strong stream that might end up with playing semi-finals but only a victory will qualify them to TI.

Quest is no doubt strong but it's just that GG is stronger. The upper bracket final is just like a replay, GG and Tundra.

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I was so sure of Liquid victory today that I place two consecutive bets on them to win both maps and both of them were a loss. Now , I think Liquid drafted like that intentionally because they had a clear advantage in early-mid game and no advantage during the late them and that cost them both maps in the end. Undecided

Then , I was hoping for Quest to win but as soon as I saw Ace with his Doom , I knew that GG was going to win in the end but Quest do have a very strong stream that might end up with playing semi-finals but only a victory will qualify them to TI.

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Quote from: arallmuus on July 06, 2023, 03:23:19 PM

Im not even sure if the team will terminate his contract after this foollish thing that he had done

Their rulebook did mention that he could be banned for five years and maybe Valve will be the one to give the punishment after the major.

The only pre-live bet i'm confident for today is Team Liquid and i'll live bet the other three. Also, the over 2.5 might be a play worth considering when all of the playoff series have gone 2-1, except for the Betboom series that got voided.

Sadly, This didn’t go well as expected. I’m a Team Liquid fan too on this tournament but somehow Tundra manage to beat them 2 game straight with both long game. It's a sign that Tundra know how to play against Team Liquid because they knew how to counter them every play.

I think this is a different story if Betboom is their opponent instead of Tundra. I'm starting to feel the inconsistency of Liquid once they move on the Upper Bracket, They always checking agains same WEU teams that play against them many times.

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Quote from: len01 on July 06, 2023, 09:21:10 AM

the prediction I made maybe a little silly but for me it will be better. for me Team Aster is not a team that has a fast game pattern and from my previous bets I always get total kill wins and all of them are over 42.5

edit : according to my predictions. today is mine

Team Liquid vs Tundra

from the results of match map 1 both teams managed to get a total of more than 42.5 kills and I will take as usual over 42.5

and it's possible that Liquid in this second map has the possibility of winning so there are a total of 3 maps. not investment advice and risks are always present.

edit : epic comeback Tundra. Nisha's mistake buying the Divine Rapier item and it was taken by Tundra. very painful. maybe if Nisha is not careless she still has a chance to fight in the third map.

next match GG vs Quest

I know that these two teams have good performance and the reason I took over 42.5 is because in this Bali Major match all teams will try to get tickets to continue to TI 12. So there will most likely be intense competition and of course the total kills will be over 42, 5

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Quote from: emrecemsan on July 06, 2023, 03:35:59 PM

Quote from: execijutiere on July 04, 2023, 01:24:56 AM

We can say that the break for CS:GO tournaments will end soon and good tournaments will start.First of all, we will start with the ESL Pro League qualifiers.I want Eternal Fire to take the spot in the European qualifier.Hoping that Eternal Fire has had a good preparation period, I can say that when we look at their opponents in the group, I can say that there is not a very strong opponent to push them.They have the potential to beat them all and I think they can handle it with hard work.IGL maj3r's daughter was sick, but I hope this does not demoralize him or it may reflect badly on the team.

It has been a month since Eternal Fire played an official match. They played in the ESL Turkey Championship and won the tournament as well. This might be some incentive for them to play better in the ESL Pro League qualifiers as well hopefully. I hope they took an advantage of this long break and improved their team play more. Because it has always been the main problem for Eternal Fire. They didn't have solid strategies as a team and they were relying on some player to step up and carry the team too much.

If the team continue to be disappointed in big tournaments then I believe they need bigger changes in the roster just as NaVi have done recently.

If Eternal Fire is not well prepared for this tournament, it is certain that they will be lynched by their fans.They have built a good roster now and when we compare it to their old roster, we can say that they are at the top level as firepower.Xantares is already the most talented and most experienced name at the head of the team.Wicadia was introduced as the new xantares. There is no need to talk about Woxic's awp performance.Calyx and maj3r are already players at a certain level.If there is no success with this squad, it will be sad for the Turkish CS community.No matter how much you change this squad, I think that mental and egos should be put aside as a priority.Everyone should stop acting according to their own head and take instructions from a person.

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Quote from: arallmuus on July 06, 2023, 03:23:19 PM

Im not even sure if the team will terminate his contract after this foollish thing that he had done

Their rulebook did mention that he could be banned for five years and maybe Valve will be the one to give the punishment after the major.

The only pre-live bet i'm confident for today is Team Liquid and i'll live bet the other three. Also, the over 2.5 might be a play worth considering when all of the playoff series have gone 2-1, except for the Betboom series that got voided.

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News ~ BetBoom Player “Pure” Disqualified From ‘Dota 2’ Bali Major

This is probably the stupidest thing that a pro player can do in an official tournament. They are a pretty good team even without the stream sniping and has a good chance to get to top 2 atleast, they needed just few more DPC points for the direct TI invite but that stupid action cost them the team everything. Im not even sure if the team will terminate his contract after this foollish thing that he had done

One of the bravest, too. Valve does not take cheating lightly on their official tournaments. They usually go for bans on all Valve-sponsored tournaments for a long period of time or sometimes permanently. Idk what came into Pure's mind in doing this, and idk why their coach or their co-teammates didn't bother stopping him from doing this. They are a pretty good team without the assist of stream sniping, and they are really good in reading strats in their most recent games and tournaments. I'll be watching the development of this closely because disqualification isn't something that Valve is a fan of. This might escalate into a ban for surw.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on July 06, 2023, 12:02:02 PM

FY Tosses is on point and the real game changer because that’s the only reason they can isolate enemy cores without any help from support.

That game is lit!

The connection of somnus' puck and Fy's tiny is really great. And that's the reason why they've won that match, the combo of these two brought the team into victory.

Quote from: Coin_trader on July 06, 2023, 12:02:02 PM

There’s still a wildcard and I’m sure they have a high chance on getting a spot since they are very strong without top teams that already secured TI spot.

Is there? Maybe you're talking about the regional qualifiers.

Only two regions will be able to take two slots and those are the South America and Western Europe region. The rest regions only has one slot to make.

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Quote from: execijutiere on July 04, 2023, 01:24:56 AM

We can say that the break for CS:GO tournaments will end soon and good tournaments will start.First of all, we will start with the ESL Pro League qualifiers.I want Eternal Fire to take the spot in the European qualifier.Hoping that Eternal Fire has had a good preparation period, I can say that when we look at their opponents in the group, I can say that there is not a very strong opponent to push them.They have the potential to beat them all and I think they can handle it with hard work.IGL maj3r's daughter was sick, but I hope this does not demoralize him or it may reflect badly on the team.

It has been a month since Eternal Fire played an official match. They played in the ESL Turkey Championship and won the tournament as well. This might be some incentive for them to play better in the ESL Pro League qualifiers as well hopefully. I hope they took an advantage of this long break and improved their team play more. Because it has always been the main problem for Eternal Fire. They didn't have solid strategies as a team and they were relying on some player to step up and carry the team too much.

If the team continue to be disappointed in big tournaments then I believe they need bigger changes in the roster just as NaVi have done recently.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on July 06, 2023, 06:17:39 AM

News ~ BetBoom Player “Pure” Disqualified From ‘Dota 2’ Bali Major

This is probably the stupidest thing that a pro player can do in an official tournament. They are a pretty good team even without the stream sniping and has a good chance to get to top 2 atleast, they needed just few more DPC points for the direct TI invite but that stupid action cost them the team everything. Im not even sure if the team will terminate his contract after this foollish thing that he had done

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Quote from: boltz on July 06, 2023, 08:58:08 AM

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What an amazing game 3 on match between Betboom and AR. I never imagine how AR will gonna beat Betboom hero on face to face clash while they only have seeker with a hybrid item that more focus on defense items than offense comapred to Betboom with TA and Morphling full build attack items.

I believe FY is the MVP of this game because of his crucial toss that makes BB core become isolated to the rest of the team. BB lose because Resolution doesn't want to front all the time while his spiderlings can't provide vision at all since it can be killed easily by AOE spell of AR. I really thought that BB already got this game since AR is very squishy but their support can't provide easy pick off that result to their carry always initiate.

Now , I have a feeling that 9Pandas will avenge BetBoom and won't let Aster to win this series because that would push BetBoom into region qualifiers and you don't want to face Team Secret there...because Secret always finds a way to qualify for TI.

FY Tosses is on point and the real game changer because that’s the only reason they can isolate enemy cores without any help from support. There’s still a wildcard and I’m sure they have a high chance on getting a spot since they are very strong without top teams that already secured TI spot.

Quote from: boltz on July 06, 2023, 08:58:08 AM

Now , I have a feeling that 9Pandas will avenge BetBoom and won't let Aster to win this series because that would push BetBoom into region qualifiers and you don't want to face Team Secret there...because Secret always finds a way to qualify for TI.

9panda manage to beat Aster on game 3 thanks to miero for providing very good set up on cores of Aster and Antares for preventing Xxs to set up against them. Honestly, Watching Monet is really boring when he already get scared on the enemy. He literally just watching on clash and entering with a mindset to how get out when he is low hp instead of killing crucial heroes to win teh team fight. Aster support too is always outplayed by 9Panda. Only Sumail is the one who has balls to fight the team face to face while the rest of the team just running. Also Xxs has a lot of missed spear for setup and he keeps jumping even with the threat of Anatares Ancient Seal.

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the prediction I made maybe a little silly but for me it will be better. for me Team Aster is not a team that has a fast game pattern and from my previous bets I always get total kill wins and all of them are over 42.5

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Quote from: Coin_trader on July 06, 2023, 08:27:14 AM

What an amazing game 3 on match between Betboom and AR. I never imagine how AR will gonna beat Betboom hero on face to face clash while they only have seeker with a hybrid item that more focus on defense items than offense comapred to Betboom with TA and Morphling full build attack items.

I believe FY is the MVP of this game because of his crucial toss that makes BB core become isolated to the rest of the team. BB lose because Resolution doesn't want to front all the time while his spiderlings can't provide vision at all since it can be killed easily by AOE spell of AR. I really thought that BB already got this game since AR is very squishy but their support can't provide easy pick off that result to their carry always initiate.

So true. Both FY and Somnus went insane with clutch plays that really gave Azure Ray a change to make a comeback but I feel bad for BetBoom because they had 4 chances to secure their TI slot and once again , they got eliminated and that made TSM to secure TI slot.

Now , I have a feeling that 9Pandas will avenge BetBoom and won't let Aster to win this series because that would push BetBoom into region qualifiers and you don't want to face Team Secret there...because Secret always finds a way to qualify for TI.

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What an amazing game 3 on match between Betboom and AR. I never imagine how AR will gonna beat Betboom hero on face to face clash while they only have seeker with a hybrid item that more focus on defense items than offense comapred to Betboom with TA and Morphling full build attack items.

I believe FY is the MVP of this game because of his crucial toss that makes BB core become isolated to the rest of the team. BB lose because Resolution doesn't want to front all the time while his spiderlings can't provide vision at all since it can be killed easily by AOE spell of AR. I really thought that BB already got this game since AR is very squishy but their support can't provide easy pick off that result to their carry always initiate.

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Quote from: boltz on July 06, 2023, 04:08:33 AM

You're right with Beastcoast vs Shopify and with current map 3 drafting , I think Beastcoast will take this series as Shopify is already qualified for The International.

Beastcoast won against Shopify Rebellion. The map 3 of their match is one sided

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 06, 2023, 05:04:01 AM

I think Gaimin Gladiators will win this series with their experience and their odd seem quite favorable to bet on also. I saw it around 1.60 on a gambling website.

This is for tomorrow's match. Although Quest is an interesting and seem to be an easy going but strong team. GG is still different from them.

While as of typing this, Betboom and Azure Ray's first map is done and the first win goes to AR. Pure of BetBoom is disqualified for the entire run of this Bali major. Well, if AR will win the 2nd map or 3rd map if it goes there, this is their last run. A lot of things will be affected for the BetBoom team just because of his issue.
News ~ BetBoom Player “Pure” Disqualified From ‘Dota 2’ Bali Major

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Quest Esports have really been on the rise in world rankings recently. They are in 10th place now. They have seemed like a potential candidate for even the final series with their performance so far. However unlucky them that they are going to face one of the dominant teams like Gaimin Gladiators.

Gaimin Gladiators have been one of the really successful teams in latest Majors. They have a much bigger experience than their competitor. When it comes to head-to-heads they got a 1-1 draw in the group stage of Bali Major. But playoffs can be much more different.

I think Gaimin Gladiators will win this series with their experience and their odd seem quite favorable to bet on also. I saw it around 1.60 on a gambling website.

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Quote from: Trofo on July 06, 2023, 02:33:40 AM

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If Beastcoast still had the underdog odds when the line opened, I would've taken them over SR, but now that they've become the slight favorites, SR now has the better value. I wouldn't trust SR as much when they've been shaky during the group stage.

I feel like this game must be over 2.5 maps and that is my bet. I just don't like how first map went, Shopify looked like clear winners and then Beastcoast turned them with one perfectly timed buyback.

Did you guys see BetBoom loosing their match against Tundra on green table? Their player watched unofficial stream during pause and they were punished. Really don't know what to expect from them today. Team up and coming stronger or breakdown? Feels like there should be a way to profit from these odds but I don't know how Grin

You're right with Beastcoast vs Shopify and with current map 3 drafting , I think Beastcoast will take this series as Shopify is already qualified for The International.

Whaaat ? I mean , I know that game had a big pause on 2nd map but I had no idea someone watched the live stream ? Who was it ? Was it pure or save ? because both of them are having tricky looks Grin

and numbers like 6 , 9 , 3 etc. I think BetBoom will reach semi-finals or finals again as they still need points for TI. Grin

Meanwhile , I'm heading to read the news about this incident.

EDIT 1 ; Ahahaha , it was pure ofc. The guy is already out from BB team for this Major. Grin

BetBoom has a lot of shady players in that team so I'm not surprised at all that it was Pure because if it wasn't pure , Save would have open the stream as well. After all , that team has the name of a bookie house that has 80% of the world as a restricted area to bet so yea...not surprised at all.

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