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Quote from: boyptc on June 26, 2023, 06:00:16 PM

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Anyone who's watching the match of Nigma.Galaxy and Team Secret ME for the Riyadh masters MENA qualifier?

The 2nd map was quite funny that the tally of the score is like that Team Secret just played with some AI, for real. Kuro doesn't really fit anymore to play, as on this match he played carry.

This is expected because they drafted their hero like an AI. They doesn’t any good setter except for Puck and Void which both use ultimate and high cooldown while Secret hero has a lot of AoE control that will surely bully faceless void once he got caught. Kuro drafting is the main problem of Nigma.

Game 3 is on the way, Nigma finally have a decent draft. But I'm not sure if their Sven pick can reach Medusa on team fight. I like Secret draft.

I feel bad for Kuro, he should just have transition from playing into coaching just as what's being suggested by many. At the end of this qualifier, Secret won against Nigma.

And then, Secret lost against Quest.

Quest = going to the Riyadh to join other qualified teams for this huge stack and prize pool tournament.

While Gaimin Gladiators was already direct invited to Riyadh and they've won the Dream League season 20, the slot will be filled by another team with an average placement as per liquipedia.

--> https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Riyadh_Masters/2023

Kuro should have transitioned a long time ago. He's still in-denial that he's no longer effective as a player and should just go to the sidelines and coach. His vast knowledge on the game will greatly contribute to the team and help them achieve better placings on tournaments. He doesn't have to be pressured on his performance as a player if he goes into coaching, and Nigma would really benefit from this but yea, he's so selfish and he doesn't want to let go of the limelight.

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Quote from: boyptc on June 26, 2023, 06:00:16 PM

I feel bad for Kuro, he should just have transition from playing into coaching just as what's being suggested by many. At the end of this qualifier, Secret won against Nigma.

They like playing, we cannot blame them. They had played their whole life, so maybe for them, it is really hard to give up what they have been doing for a long time. But you are right, Kuroky should think of transitioning into coaching or just be plain owner of a team. They were badly beaten by Secret in that game. They do not have the firepower to go against the hero of Secret. If Sven dies, they cannot fight anymore. That is just a bad draft for me and bad execution. Maybe we will see Kuro in the sideline in the near future coaching.

Quote from: boyptc on June 26, 2023, 06:00:16 PM

While Gaimin Gladiators was already direct invited to Riyadh and they've won the Dream League season 20, the slot will be filled by another team with an average placement as per liquipedia.

Yeah, Evil Geniuses, PSG.LGD, Talon, and Team Spirit got into Riyadh Masters because Gaimin Gladiator won Dream League Season 20. Gaimin Gladiator are still in a roll and I am expecting them to be heavy favorite this coming TI. Unless other teams figure out how to stop them, they will win the next TI.

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Quote from: dimonstration on June 23, 2023, 03:13:19 PM

Quote from: boyptc on June 23, 2023, 02:44:55 PM

Anyone who's watching the match of Nigma.Galaxy and Team Secret ME for the Riyadh masters MENA qualifier?

The 2nd map was quite funny that the tally of the score is like that Team Secret just played with some AI, for real. Kuro doesn't really fit anymore to play, as on this match he played carry.

This is expected because they drafted their hero like an AI. They doesn’t any good setter except for Puck and Void which both use ultimate and high cooldown while Secret hero has a lot of AoE control that will surely bully faceless void once he got caught. Kuro drafting is the main problem of Nigma.

Game 3 is on the way, Nigma finally have a decent draft. But I'm not sure if their Sven pick can reach Medusa on team fight. I like Secret draft.

I feel bad for Kuro, he should just have transition from playing into coaching just as what's being suggested by many. At the end of this qualifier, Secret won against Nigma.

And then, Secret lost against Quest.

Quest = going to the Riyadh to join other qualified teams for this huge stack and prize pool tournament.

While Gaimin Gladiators was already direct invited to Riyadh and they've won the Dream League season 20, the slot will be filled by another team with an average placement as per liquipedia.

--> https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Riyadh_Masters/2023

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Quote from: dothebeats on June 25, 2023, 05:05:11 PM

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BlameF and dev1ce are the ones I am really looking forward to in CS:2. They have the experience and the grit compared to these new comers in the scene. B0rup also has that raw aim and mechanical skills to be the entry fragger that Astralis lacked for their previous iterations since the departure of the legends (xyp9x, magisk, gla1ve). Well, they still have dev1ce for his aggressive awping and IGL skills, but it'll be a hard task for buzz and staehr to prove they deserve to be in the team that once dominated the entire CS:GO scene.

If dev1ce will be both awper and IGL, we can say that he preferred to be like a cadian. Thus, they increased their firepower. Both bORUP and Staehr are good players, especially we can say that staehr is the form player of recent times who has been on the rise with sprout. Buzz will be more in the support role, I guess I can't say much for buzz, but I have great expectations from Staehr.

I might even go as far as saying that dev1ce is a better IGL and AWPer than Cadian, it's just that he's not having the right mix of teammates to help him achieve the top that he's supposed to be at with his skillset. Staehr, I have seen some highlights here and there, although it's too early to call that he'll fit right in. Buzz, hmm, a support role is a very flexible role, and usually something an IGL would do but we'll see what value will the guy add to Astralis.

dev1ce's experience and talent are indisputable, but I can say that time will tell.Maybe he chose his teammates himself, we don't know that.Only dev1ce is left from the old Astralis roster and a roster may have been created according to his wishes.Time and tournaments will show us that.No player can adapt quickly because their game plans may not match each other at first.I am also skeptical about Buzz, but he can be a good support player.

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Quote from: arallmuus on June 25, 2023, 05:18:54 PM

Well in DL20, they were not really dominating at all though. In fact they were quite shabby in the group stage especially on the 2nd group stage because Betboom and PSG.LGD were dominating that group stage. They also made it to the 3rd map both against Talon and PSG.LGD which kinda indicate that they could have lost the game

It was the same for the grand finals, and during the final game, it all boils down to that one crucial team fight. They're starting to show some cracks and other teams are catching up, but they still have that clutch factor in them when needed.

Beastcoast might be in trouble now that they removed K1 from their roster and Parker will probably take that spot since he stood in for beastcoast during the Dreamleague tournament. They also lost a few hundred points after releasing K1 and now would need a 5th or 6th finish to qualify.

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Quote from: passwordnow on June 25, 2023, 04:40:51 PM

Honestly, I want them not to win this DL20 because they've been dominating all of these teams, somebody stop them. Now next, the Bali major which will happen on Thursday. GG is also participating there.

Well in DL20, they were not really dominating at all though. In fact they were quite shabby in the group stage especially on the 2nd group stage because Betboom and PSG.LGD were dominating that group stage. They also made it to the 3rd map both against Talon and PSG.LGD which kinda indicate that they could have lost the game

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Quote from: execijutiere on June 25, 2023, 01:02:53 AM

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BlameF and dev1ce are the ones I am really looking forward to in CS:2. They have the experience and the grit compared to these new comers in the scene. B0rup also has that raw aim and mechanical skills to be the entry fragger that Astralis lacked for their previous iterations since the departure of the legends (xyp9x, magisk, gla1ve). Well, they still have dev1ce for his aggressive awping and IGL skills, but it'll be a hard task for buzz and staehr to prove they deserve to be in the team that once dominated the entire CS:GO scene.

If dev1ce will be both awper and IGL, we can say that he preferred to be like a cadian. Thus, they increased their firepower. Both bORUP and Staehr are good players, especially we can say that staehr is the form player of recent times who has been on the rise with sprout. Buzz will be more in the support role, I guess I can't say much for buzz, but I have great expectations from Staehr.

I might even go as far as saying that dev1ce is a better IGL and AWPer than Cadian, it's just that he's not having the right mix of teammates to help him achieve the top that he's supposed to be at with his skillset. Staehr, I have seen some highlights here and there, although it's too early to call that he'll fit right in. Buzz, hmm, a support role is a very flexible role, and usually something an IGL would do but we'll see what value will the guy add to Astralis.

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Quote from: dimonstration on June 24, 2023, 10:51:10 AM

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Mate, it's totally boring and one-sided, while watching it I knew it when it was likely about to end. Team Secret has done it perfectly because they've got the Medusa and the game needs to be long but Nigma doesn't like to push that much because they're also going on with the long game. That very last push Nigma did on the bottom tower of Team Secret, after attacking and throwing some skills, they're quick to TP but then Puppey's enigma was there and all of them(3) got blackholed.

I didn’t finish the game because it’s so damn slow and full of farming. But as I predicted, Nigma Sven failed to reach Medusa and it punish them big time when Dusa already have lock item since his split shot is very painful specially for the backlines that already in range due dragon lance enhance range. I watch the replay and Nigma doesn’t even close on taking down Medusa since he is always being controlled by Blackhole when he is trying to close the gap.

Pretty one sided but still props to Nigma for making this game very long.They have a chance if Sven can wieout the backlines which didn’t happened.

I thought that they can have some chance against it but no way. And for this MENA qualifier, the winner as Quest Esports. And for the champ of the Dream League Season 20 is none other the Gaimin Gladiators. Dude, this team is unbeatable every stage tournaments.
Honestly, I want them not to win this DL20 because they've been dominating all of these teams, somebody stop them. Now next, the Bali major which will happen on Thursday. GG is also participating there.

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Quote from: dothebeats on June 24, 2023, 04:08:35 PM

BlameF and dev1ce are the ones I am really looking forward to in CS:2. They have the experience and the grit compared to these new comers in the scene. B0rup also has that raw aim and mechanical skills to be the entry fragger that Astralis lacked for their previous iterations since the departure of the legends (xyp9x, magisk, gla1ve). Well, they still have dev1ce for his aggressive awping and IGL skills, but it'll be a hard task for buzz and staehr to prove they deserve to be in the team that once dominated the entire CS:GO scene.

If dev1ce will be both awper and IGL, we can say that he preferred to be like a cadian. Thus, they increased their firepower. Both bORUP and Staehr are good players, especially we can say that staehr is the form player of recent times who has been on the rise with sprout. Buzz will be more in the support role, I guess I can't say much for buzz, but I have great expectations from Staehr.

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Quote from: execijutiere on June 24, 2023, 01:38:51 AM

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Astralis has made a radical change as I thought.gla1ve and xyp9x have been moved to the bench and borup and staehr have replaced them.the only name left from the old astralis roster is dev1ce.I think he stayed because he maintained his performance after a long time, otherwise awper could have come in his place. With the recent changes, I think that astralis' performance will increase, especially since gla1ve and xyp9x are far from their old performances, such a decision was important for astralis' success in future tournaments.

Now with the summer break it's a good time to shuffle the teams and get some training in before the next big tournaments. The last big major was played all the teams also need to prepare themselves for the release of CS 2 which is going to bring a lot of changes to some game mechanics. Astralis has been one of the strongest teams in the past but underperformed last and this year. They didn't manage to qualify for the top 16 teams of the last Major in Paris and also did poorly in the IEM in Dallas, losing against FaZe and Mouz. Only being ranked #15 in the world for such a prestige team that dominated CSGO for a long time is not a good situation and big changes where necessary. gla1ve hasn't performed well lately, so benching him is a good idea in my opinion. Staehr seems to be a good player that is still very young with 18 years, they can train him into the position they wan't him to be. As for b0RUP he has some good experience with Copenhagen flames, but it remains to be seen how well he is going to do in Astralis.

As you said, Astralis really doesn't deserve this ranking despite being such an organization.It is not acceptable that the team, which has shown a dominant game in previous years, is far from its current performance.With these changes, they need to prepare themselves for CS:2, including the last CS:GO tournaments. I don't know if they have enough time for the remaining CS:GO tournaments, but it is obvious that if CS:2 is to be continued with this roster, preparations should be started as soon as possible.Astralis has both renewed its roster and set sail for a new success with young players.I think they will achieve good things with the youth of Buzz and Staehr, the experience of b0RUP and dev1ce, as well as the talent of blameF.

BlameF and dev1ce are the ones I am really looking forward to in CS:2. They have the experience and the grit compared to these new comers in the scene. B0rup also has that raw aim and mechanical skills to be the entry fragger that Astralis lacked for their previous iterations since the departure of the legends (xyp9x, magisk, gla1ve). Well, they still have dev1ce for his aggressive awping and IGL skills, but it'll be a hard task for buzz and staehr to prove they deserve to be in the team that once dominated the entire CS:GO scene.

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If we look at the transfers and changes made by other teams, Vitality transferred flameZ instead of dupreeh.With this transfer, Vitality will increase its firepower.Especially spinx and flamez are the rising names of recent times and will adapt easily because they are from the same country.Vitality has thus strengthened its roster.
In Spirit, s1ren patsi and wonderful were benched.Spirit should be a harbinger of a big change.I don't know who they have in mind or who will come, but the spirit team has been weak in recent tournaments.With this change, maybe they will be on the rise.

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Quote from: passwordnow on June 23, 2023, 10:23:07 PM

Quote from: dimonstration on June 23, 2023, 03:50:14 PM

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But I'm not sure if their Sven pick can reach Medusa on team fight. I like Secret draft.

It's a team play and I know that it's possible but we'll see and I also like Secret's draft too.

Agreed on this part, But Sven being kite on most of their team fights by Medusa. The game is very slow and both teams are farming hard. I don’t like Medusa gaining items for Nigma because this will make their support more squishy with just a proper blackhole. They just need to target Lion then Enigma is free to place his blackhole to Sven and the others.

It’s very boring to watch the fight now. I hope they will just clash. I’m dying to curiousity on how will Nigma kill Medusa with their line-up.

Mate, it's totally boring and one-sided, while watching it I knew it when it was likely about to end. Team Secret has done it perfectly because they've got the Medusa and the game needs to be long but Nigma doesn't like to push that much because they're also going on with the long game. That very last push Nigma did on the bottom tower of Team Secret, after attacking and throwing some skills, they're quick to TP but then Puppey's enigma was there and all of them(3) got blackholed.

I didn’t finish the game because it’s so damn slow and full of farming. But as I predicted, Nigma Sven failed to reach Medusa and it punish them big time when Dusa already have lock item since his split shot is very painful specially for the backlines that already in range due dragon lance enhance range. I watch the replay and Nigma doesn’t even close on taking down Medusa since he is always being controlled by Blackhole when he is trying to close the gap.

Pretty one sided but still props to Nigma for making this game very long.They have a chance if Sven can wieout the backlines which didn’t happened.

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Quote from: Mauser on June 24, 2023, 01:32:17 AM

Quote from: execijutiere on June 24, 2023, 12:30:44 AM

Astralis has made a radical change as I thought.gla1ve and xyp9x have been moved to the bench and borup and staehr have replaced them.the only name left from the old astralis roster is dev1ce.I think he stayed because he maintained his performance after a long time, otherwise awper could have come in his place. With the recent changes, I think that astralis' performance will increase, especially since gla1ve and xyp9x are far from their old performances, such a decision was important for astralis' success in future tournaments.

Now with the summer break it's a good time to shuffle the teams and get some training in before the next big tournaments. The last big major was played all the teams also need to prepare themselves for the release of CS 2 which is going to bring a lot of changes to some game mechanics. Astralis has been one of the strongest teams in the past but underperformed last and this year. They didn't manage to qualify for the top 16 teams of the last Major in Paris and also did poorly in the IEM in Dallas, losing against FaZe and Mouz. Only being ranked #15 in the world for such a prestige team that dominated CSGO for a long time is not a good situation and big changes where necessary. gla1ve hasn't performed well lately, so benching him is a good idea in my opinion. Staehr seems to be a good player that is still very young with 18 years, they can train him into the position they wan't him to be. As for b0RUP he has some good experience with Copenhagen flames, but it remains to be seen how well he is going to do in Astralis.

As you said, Astralis really doesn't deserve this ranking despite being such an organization.It is not acceptable that the team, which has shown a dominant game in previous years, is far from its current performance.With these changes, they need to prepare themselves for CS:2, including the last CS:GO tournaments. I don't know if they have enough time for the remaining CS:GO tournaments, but it is obvious that if CS:2 is to be continued with this roster, preparations should be started as soon as possible.Astralis has both renewed its roster and set sail for a new success with young players.I think they will achieve good things with the youth of Buzz and Staehr, the experience of b0RUP and dev1ce, as well as the talent of blameF.

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Quote from: execijutiere on June 24, 2023, 12:30:44 AM

Astralis has made a radical change as I thought.gla1ve and xyp9x have been moved to the bench and borup and staehr have replaced them.the only name left from the old astralis roster is dev1ce.I think he stayed because he maintained his performance after a long time, otherwise awper could have come in his place. With the recent changes, I think that astralis' performance will increase, especially since gla1ve and xyp9x are far from their old performances, such a decision was important for astralis' success in future tournaments.

Now with the summer break it's a good time to shuffle the teams and get some training in before the next big tournaments. The last big major was played all the teams also need to prepare themselves for the release of CS 2 which is going to bring a lot of changes to some game mechanics. Astralis has been one of the strongest teams in the past but underperformed last and this year. They didn't manage to qualify for the top 16 teams of the last Major in Paris and also did poorly in the IEM in Dallas, losing against FaZe and Mouz. Only being ranked #15 in the world for such a prestige team that dominated CSGO for a long time is not a good situation and big changes where necessary. gla1ve hasn't performed well lately, so benching him is a good idea in my opinion. Staehr seems to be a good player that is still very young with 18 years, they can train him into the position they wan't him to be. As for b0RUP he has some good experience with Copenhagen flames, but it remains to be seen how well he is going to do in Astralis.

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Astralis has made a radical change as I thought.gla1ve and xyp9x have been moved to the bench and borup and staehr have replaced them.the only name left from the old astralis roster is dev1ce.I think he stayed because he maintained his performance after a long time, otherwise awper could have come in his place. With the recent changes, I think that astralis' performance will increase, especially since gla1ve and xyp9x are far from their old performances, such a decision was important for astralis' success in future tournaments.

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Quote from: dimonstration on June 23, 2023, 03:50:14 PM

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But I'm not sure if their Sven pick can reach Medusa on team fight. I like Secret draft.

It's a team play and I know that it's possible but we'll see and I also like Secret's draft too.

Agreed on this part, But Sven being kite on most of their team fights by Medusa. The game is very slow and both teams are farming hard. I don’t like Medusa gaining items for Nigma because this will make their support more squishy with just a proper blackhole. They just need to target Lion then Enigma is free to place his blackhole to Sven and the others.

It’s very boring to watch the fight now. I hope they will just clash. I’m dying to curiousity on how will Nigma kill Medusa with their line-up.

Mate, it's totally boring and one-sided, while watching it I knew it when it was likely about to end. Team Secret has done it perfectly because they've got the Medusa and the game needs to be long but Nigma doesn't like to push that much because they're also going on with the long game. That very last push Nigma did on the bottom tower of Team Secret, after attacking and throwing some skills, they're quick to TP but then Puppey's enigma was there and all of them(3) got blackholed.

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Quote from: passwordnow on June 23, 2023, 03:33:48 PM

Quote from: dimonstration on June 23, 2023, 03:13:19 PM

But I'm not sure if their Sven pick can reach Medusa on team fight. I like Secret draft.

It's a team play and I know that it's possible but we'll see and I also like Secret's draft too.

Agreed on this part, But Sven being kite on most of their team fights by Medusa. The game is very slow and both teams are farming hard. I don’t like Medusa gaining items for Nigma because this will make their support more squishy with just a proper blackhole. They just need to target Lion then Enigma is free to place his blackhole to Sven and the others.

It’s very boring to watch the fight now. I hope they will just clash. I’m dying to curiousity on how will Nigma kill Medusa with their line-up.

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Quote from: dimonstration on June 23, 2023, 03:13:19 PM

Game 3 is on the way, Nigma finally have a decent draft.

Kuro is playing Undying so he's back to pos 5. I don't like what Kuro is doing, it seems that he's into something but doesn't want stability for his team. As of watching game 3 now, the match is so close and it's at the 19-minute mark.

Quote from: dimonstration on June 23, 2023, 03:13:19 PM

But I'm not sure if their Sven pick can reach Medusa on team fight. I like Secret draft.

It's a team play and I know that it's possible but we'll see and I also like Secret's draft too.

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Quote from: boyptc on June 23, 2023, 02:44:55 PM

Anyone who's watching the match of Nigma.Galaxy and Team Secret ME for the Riyadh masters MENA qualifier?

The 2nd map was quite funny that the tally of the score is like that Team Secret just played with some AI, for real. Kuro doesn't really fit anymore to play, as on this match he played carry.

This is expected because they drafted their hero like an AI. They doesn’t any good setter except for Puck and Void which both use ultimate and high cooldown while Secret hero has a lot of AoE control that will surely bully faceless void once he got caught. Kuro drafting is the main problem of Nigma.

Game 3 is on the way, Nigma finally have a decent draft. But I'm not sure if their Sven pick can reach Medusa on team fight. I like Secret draft.

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Anyone who's watching the match of Nigma.Galaxy and Team Secret ME for the Riyadh masters MENA qualifier?

The 2nd map was quite funny that the tally of the score is like that Team Secret just played with some AI, for real. Kuro doesn't really fit anymore to play, as on this match he played carry.

I have nothing against the legends and old players like him that has proven himself to be one of the best. But not anymore on this era, well, map 3 will be coming shortly and whoever wins this will proceed to the finals with Quest Esports.

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