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Quote from: Balmain on June 29, 2023, 08:53:34 AM

How will he fit into the FlameZ Vitality roster. Do you think FlameZ can adapt new team Vitality? FlameZ is a pretty good EntryFragger player in my opinion. It's a pretty good point in terms of leaving OG and building a career.

FlameZ is a pretty good EntryFragger player in my opinion. It's a pretty good point in terms of leaving OG and building a career. Vitality moved very quickly in the FlameZ transfer, it was an aggressive transfer. I think he will fit in, he has another friend from his own country in the team, this great advantage will not feel too foreign to him.

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https://clips.twitch.tv/BlueDullHorseradishSaltBae-5o6aik75H5b8FCaP

Jumping from the Palace on the Mirage map in this scene. It's awesome that he hits two connector players on his way to buy ct.

What kind of game is this? Cheesy

I missed that. As such, aggressive Mirage T gameplay isn't something we see very often. FlameZ played really well.
Team Vitality strengthens the champion roster. FlameZ seems like a good choice over dupreeh. Having another Israeli Spinx in the team is also an advantage for him. There will be no compatibility issues.

Meanwhile, NAVI has formed a new team and they are going to have a special show match with Team Vitality. This match will be played on July 8th. This match will also be good to see the latest status of the teams.
Match announcement: https://twitter.com/ggbet_en/status/1674377438250381312

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How will he fit into the FlameZ Vitality roster. Do you think FlameZ can adapt new team Vitality? FlameZ is a pretty good EntryFragger player in my opinion. It's a pretty good point in terms of leaving OG and building a career.

FlameZ is a pretty good EntryFragger player in my opinion. It's a pretty good point in terms of leaving OG and building a career. Vitality moved very quickly in the FlameZ transfer, it was an aggressive transfer. I think he will fit in, he has another friend from his own country in the team, this great advantage will not feel too foreign to him.

Dupreeh is currently inactive, let's see if he will become the sixth player or sign another team. Danish legendary player.

For those who want to review statistics. Valid data is not bad according to an entryfragger player.

https://clips.twitch.tv/BlueDullHorseradishSaltBae-5o6aik75H5b8FCaP

Jumping from the Palace on the Mirage map in this scene. It's awesome that he hits two connector players on his way to take ct.

Source : https://www.hltv.org/news/36536/stat-check-how-will-flamez-fit-into-vitality

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Quote from: Trofo on June 29, 2023, 07:23:38 AM

What a game between GG and Quest, over 120 minutes, back and forth. Rapiers lying around the map and nobody even having slots to fit them in... Never watched something like this before. And it was my first game in Bali Major

Hopefully rest of them will deliver as well.

The game ended in 136 minutes. DRs were just free all over the map and all of them are level 30. I think this is again the first time that GG was able to have hardship and difficulty in playing on any team. I guess we're seeing that hope with Quest Esports. They're a dominant team, with new names and faces on Division 1 except ATF of course. All of the heroes were packed with Aghanim's blessing and shard and as well as moon shard. Such a long game but not boring at all because you'll never know what will happen next.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 29, 2023, 07:23:38 AM

What a game between GG and Quest, over 120 minutes, back and forth. Rapiers lying around the map and nobody even having slots to fit them in... Never watched something like this before. And it was my first game in Bali Major

Hopefully rest of them will deliver as well.

That's crazy, we're just still at the first day but the day is going to end with a satisfying match from these two teams. They're the last match for this day 1 and we're just heading on to their map 2.

All of them are full items and even the pos 4 and pos 5 for both teams. I'd always love to see long games like this and see someone wear giant's ring.

GG's to both team.

Will GG take the 2nd map? We'll see.

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What a game between GG and Quest, over 120 minutes, back and forth. Rapiers lying around the map and nobody even having slots to fit them in... Never watched something like this before. And it was my first game in Bali Major

Hopefully rest of them will deliver as well.

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 28, 2023, 07:34:00 PM

The competition got harder during Tour 3 as the new teams from the open qualifiers had a few familiar names and PuckChamp selling their slot to Old G. They only have to go through the closed qualifiers for the next DPC season, and they should qualify easily since they're most likely replacing someone from their roster.

I think the main problem wouldnt be that because the next TI qualifier is approaching and iirc only team registered in division 1 and 2 gets to play in the qualifiers which means Alliance wont be able to get their shot on the next qualifier. Well not that Im expecting them to win but atleast they get a shot at it but now they couldnt though

So anyone else ended up getting all draws for 16 games today as well?

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Quote from: dothebeats on June 28, 2023, 04:44:06 PM

It's a cut throat competition in Europe, always has been especially when the road to TI is closing in. They would really have to grind it out in the open qualifiers against teams that are relatively unknown but are also strong. There are a lot of those teams in Europe too, especially pros and pubstars that weren't signed by a team prior to TI. A lot of grinding and a lot of practice would be needed by this current iteration of Alliance if they want to join TI for this year, that's for sure.

The competition will be even tougher considering that the TI tournament is only a few months away and there will be strong big teams and underdogs competing for a place in the ongoing qualifiers.
Yes, Europe has quite a lot of strong teams and they always play well and even some European teams manage to surprise each year by successfully qualifying.
TI has become the biggest tournament with fantastic prizes so that this one tournament is the pinnacle of the tournament you have been waiting for and it is an extraordinary honor to win it.

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Quote from: ralle14 on June 28, 2023, 07:34:00 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on June 28, 2023, 04:29:19 PM

Anyone feels bad for the Alliance(Dota 2) that they're even out of Division 2 and they'll have to go with the qualifiers again for the said division? After nikobaby's retirement, this team becomes one of the weakest in its region and even taking two sea players but still didn't manage to get at least a slot in Division 1. One reason that I can say is that the region that they are in is certainly one of the hardest and most difficult regions in the entire world. Hoping they'll bounce back soon.

Their roster didn't seem promising, but it was surprising when they performed better than expected because they were always one series win short from getting promoted to Div 1. The competition got harder during Tour 3 as the new teams from the open qualifiers had a few familiar names and PuckChamp selling their slot to Old G. They only have to go through the closed qualifiers for the next DPC season, and they should qualify easily since they're most likely replacing someone from their roster.

Can't wait if there will be an announcement from them if they'll replace someone or if they wholly gonna clean this roster while s4 will remain as the team captain.

Speaking of the Bali major, too many games have passed and did you guys also follow some of the games? One noticeable game was GG and 9Pandas, GG really bullied 9Pandas. It's like Quinn telling ramzes on my mind, ramdog!!

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Quote from: passwordnow on June 28, 2023, 04:29:19 PM

Anyone feels bad for the Alliance(Dota 2) that they're even out of Division 2 and they'll have to go with the qualifiers again for the said division? After nikobaby's retirement, this team becomes one of the weakest in its region and even taking two sea players but still didn't manage to get at least a slot in Division 1. One reason that I can say is that the region that they are in is certainly one of the hardest and most difficult regions in the entire world. Hoping they'll bounce back soon.

Their roster didn't seem promising, but it was surprising when they performed better than expected because they were always one series win short from getting promoted to Div 1. The competition got harder during Tour 3 as the new teams from the open qualifiers had a few familiar names and PuckChamp selling their slot to Old G. They only have to go through the closed qualifiers for the next DPC season, and they should qualify easily since they're most likely replacing someone from their roster.

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Quote from: arallmuus on June 28, 2023, 05:44:28 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on June 28, 2023, 04:29:19 PM

Anyone feels bad for the Alliance(Dota 2) that they're even out of Division 2

Well not that I care of, they had it coming miles away. They were having issue since last years but so far they havent really made any improvement at all. Im not sure who is the coach for Alliance but Loda was probably behind it, he is really not suitable to be coaching though. Alliance also had the chance to sign complete Old. G roster but they choose not to

It's likely that Loda is still the coach.

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Quote from: passwordnow on June 28, 2023, 04:29:19 PM

Anyone feels bad for the Alliance(Dota 2) that they're even out of Division 2 and they'll have to go with the qualifiers again for the said division? After nikobaby's retirement, this team becomes one of the weakest in its region and even taking two sea players but still didn't manage to get at least a slot in Division 1. One reason that I can say is that the region that they are in is certainly one of the hardest and most difficult regions in the entire world. Hoping they'll bounce back soon.

It's a cut throat competition in Europe, always has been especially when the road to TI is closing in. They would really have to grind it out in the open qualifiers against teams that are relatively unknown but are also strong. There are a lot of those teams in Europe too, especially pros and pubstars that weren't signed by a team prior to TI. A lot of grinding and a lot of practice would be needed by this current iteration of Alliance if they want to join TI for this year, that's for sure.

They need another change and whatever that will be depends on the management and s4 is still playing though. But I think that he is past his prime and that's one thing needs to be considered. He's still one of the original roster of Alliance but just as the other old teams as NaVi that's struggling, they really need to grind a lot and sign those pubstars and young talents that they may want to gamble.

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Quote from: passwordnow on June 28, 2023, 04:29:19 PM

Anyone feels bad for the Alliance(Dota 2) that they're even out of Division 2

Well not that I care of, they had it coming miles away. They were having issue since last years but so far they havent really made any improvement at all. Im not sure who is the coach for Alliance but Loda was probably behind it, he is really not suitable to be coaching though. Alliance also had the chance to sign complete Old. G roster but they choose not to

16 games tomorrow for the first day of The Major. Im still sticking with all draws method on all these 16 games then see if this is going to be worth it

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Quote from: passwordnow on June 28, 2023, 04:29:19 PM

Anyone feels bad for the Alliance(Dota 2) that they're even out of Division 2 and they'll have to go with the qualifiers again for the said division? After nikobaby's retirement, this team becomes one of the weakest in its region and even taking two sea players but still didn't manage to get at least a slot in Division 1. One reason that I can say is that the region that they are in is certainly one of the hardest and most difficult regions in the entire world. Hoping they'll bounce back soon.

It's a cut throat competition in Europe, always has been especially when the road to TI is closing in. They would really have to grind it out in the open qualifiers against teams that are relatively unknown but are also strong. There are a lot of those teams in Europe too, especially pros and pubstars that weren't signed by a team prior to TI. A lot of grinding and a lot of practice would be needed by this current iteration of Alliance if they want to join TI for this year, that's for sure.

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Anyone feels bad for the Alliance(Dota 2) that they're even out of Division 2 and they'll have to go with the qualifiers again for the said division? After nikobaby's retirement, this team becomes one of the weakest in its region and even taking two sea players but still didn't manage to get at least a slot in Division 1. One reason that I can say is that the region that they are in is certainly one of the hardest and most difficult regions in the entire world. Hoping they'll bounce back soon.

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In Sangal, the second biggest Turkish organization, changes have begun.Kory and scrunk became bench players.I think Kory's contract expired while scrunk became bench player because his performance was not liked.Phzy was bench player before and was replaced by panix.I am curious to see what kind of roster restructuring will happen now.Will foreign players be replaced again or will Turkish players be added?

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Quote from: execijutiere on June 27, 2023, 04:47:33 AM

We have to say that there are important changes in Liquid.EligE, who has been playing in the team for a long time, said goodbye.nitro also said goodbye earlier, and Rainwaker and Patsi replaced these two.Thus, liquid created a mixed team.I don't know if it will be successful, but it seems that these players may take a little more time to get used to each other.EligE, who left Liquid, joined Complexity.I think Complexity will get stronger with this transfer.They can also transfer a better player instead of JT.

Changes in players can actually make it more difficult for a team to be able to have a solid way of playing.
But if changing players can always be balanced by practicing more consistently and being able to understand each other then it is also possible that a team can play better.
Liquid is a team that has very good cohesiveness and even each of them can understand each other and know what to do if they are in a match, so hopefully with a few changes it won't make Liquid experience difficulties in every match they will have.

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Quote from: rdbase on June 27, 2023, 05:15:30 AM

Quote from: execijutiere on June 27, 2023, 05:08:40 AM

Electronic and Perfecto, who left NaVi, signed with C9.The contribution of these 2 players to the team will be high.I think they will strengthen as a team when two more experienced names like perfecto and electronic are added to the good play of sh1ro and Ax1le in the team.I think buster and hobb1t will leave the team and a completely Russian roster will be created.
In the OG team, k1to and FASHR were added instead of degster and NEOFRAG.I think they decided to make such a change when there was no success in OG.Currently, nexa has been on the bench for a long time and it looks like he will take the IGL again.Only F1KU was left from the old squad and we can say that they will embark on new adventures with 4 new players.

I was shocked by these roster changes for those CS:GO teams being announced early yesterday.
The most significant one was EligE leaving Team Liquid because he is their team leader and has been for many years. As long as I can think of when I first started watching counterstrike he was the face of Team Liquid.
Just unbelievable with these roster changes on Navi and also hearing Fallen would be leaving Imperial Esports for Furia.

EligE was the only player on the team who played well and gave a lot of effort and years to this team.It's not nice that he left the team in such a quiet and strange way.EligE's performance is one of the reasons why the team has not disappeared so far.I started to like the Liquid team because of EligE, but now there is no longer a name I will support there.
I was expecting such a change in NaVi, because s1mple is an ambitious and hungry for success, so it's a fact that the team has made him negative, and he may have even wanted this change himself.When you have a player like s1mple, you don't want to lose him.
Fallen, on the other hand, wants to leave Imperial and join Furia, which is stronger, because he wants to see more success in more tournaments. Since he is a name that can play both IGL and Awper, it is sure to be an important development for Furia. They need to make a radical change in the team.They can achieve success with a better trio instead of drop, saffee and arT. One of them will most likely be fallen.

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Quote from: execijutiere on June 27, 2023, 05:08:40 AM

Electronic and Perfecto, who left NaVi, signed with C9.The contribution of these 2 players to the team will be high.I think they will strengthen as a team when two more experienced names like perfecto and electronic are added to the good play of sh1ro and Ax1le in the team.I think buster and hobb1t will leave the team and a completely Russian roster will be created.
In the OG team, k1to and FASHR were added instead of degster and NEOFRAG.I think they decided to make such a change when there was no success in OG.Currently, nexa has been on the bench for a long time and it looks like he will take the IGL again.Only F1KU was left from the old squad and we can say that they will embark on new adventures with 4 new players.

I was shocked by these roster changes for those CS:GO teams being announced early yesterday.
The most significant one was EligE leaving Team Liquid because he is their team leader and has been for many years. As long as I can think of when I first started watching counterstrike he was the face of Team Liquid.
Just unbelievable with these roster changes on Navi and also hearing Fallen would be leaving Imperial Esports for Furia.

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Electronic and Perfecto, who left NaVi, signed with C9.The contribution of these 2 players to the team will be high.I think they will strengthen as a team when two more experienced names like perfecto and electronic are added to the good play of sh1ro and Ax1le in the team.I think buster and hobb1t will leave the team and a completely Russian roster will be created.
In the OG team, k1to and FASHR were added instead of degster and NEOFRAG.I think they decided to make such a change when there was no success in OG.Currently, nexa has been on the bench for a long time and it looks like he will take the IGL again.Only F1KU was left from the old squad and we can say that they will embark on new adventures with 4 new players.

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Quote from: jakelyson on June 26, 2023, 06:46:13 PM

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I feel bad for Kuro, he should just have transition from playing into coaching just as what's being suggested by many. At the end of this qualifier, Secret won against Nigma.

They like playing, we cannot blame them. They had played their whole life, so maybe for them, it is really hard to give up what they have been doing for a long time. But you are right, Kuroky should think of transitioning into coaching or just be plain owner of a team. They were badly beaten by Secret in that game. They do not have the firepower to go against the hero of Secret. If Sven dies, they cannot fight anymore. That is just a bad draft for me and bad execution. Maybe we will see Kuro in the sideline in the near future coaching.

Yeah, that's understandable for him but I hope that he'll take what's done by notail that even it's still good that he can play, he turned out of the space and just acts now in the backend of his team, OG.

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Quote from: boyptc on June 26, 2023, 06:00:16 PM

While Gaimin Gladiators was already direct invited to Riyadh and they've won the Dream League season 20, the slot will be filled by another team with an average placement as per liquipedia.

Yeah, Evil Geniuses, PSG.LGD, Talon, and Team Spirit got into Riyadh Masters because Gaimin Gladiator won Dream League Season 20. Gaimin Gladiator are still in a roll and I am expecting them to be heavy favorite this coming TI. Unless other teams figure out how to stop them, they will win the next TI.

I think that many teams are studying on how to be against them. They're sychronized team and undefeated and if no patch will happen for this upcoming Bali major then they will still dominate it.

But for the TI, I think a patch is necessary as always.

Quote from: dothebeats on June 26, 2023, 06:49:22 PM

Quote from: boyptc on June 26, 2023, 06:00:16 PM

I feel bad for Kuro, he should just have transition from playing into coaching just as what's being suggested by many. At the end of this qualifier, Secret won against Nigma.

And then, Secret lost against Quest.

Quest = going to the Riyadh to join other qualified teams for this huge stack and prize pool tournament.

While Gaimin Gladiators was already direct invited to Riyadh and they've won the Dream League season 20, the slot will be filled by another team with an average placement as per liquipedia.

--> https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Riyadh_Masters/2023

Kuro should have transitioned a long time ago. He's still in-denial that he's no longer effective as a player and should just go to the sidelines and coach. His vast knowledge on the game will greatly contribute to the team and help them achieve better placings on tournaments. He doesn't have to be pressured on his performance as a player if he goes into coaching, and Nigma would really benefit from this but yea, he's so selfish and he doesn't want to let go of the limelight.

Can't be denied, he think that he can still play and win against these young talents that are on their prime. Well, kuro is pass his prime and that's why he needs transition.

He should just get out of pos 5 and play as a coach.

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We have to say that there are important changes in Liquid.EligE, who has been playing in the team for a long time, said goodbye.nitro also said goodbye earlier, and Rainwaker and Patsi replaced these two.Thus, liquid created a mixed team.I don't know if it will be successful, but it seems that these players may take a little more time to get used to each other.EligE, who left Liquid, joined Complexity.I think Complexity will get stronger with this transfer.They can also transfer a better player instead of JT.

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