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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on June 19, 2023, 01:18:43 PM

Everyone, aren't you hype with this news or did you already see the good news about having an Esports City in Saudi Arabia?

It's gonna be a worth $500M city for building this place. That's a lot of money for the Saudi Arabia to build this but I think that the crowned prince has got the influence on why this has made. If anyone still haven't seen it yet, the prince has always been trending when there's the battle pass for Dota 2.

It is good news for us Dota watchers, so we get better productions in the future, but unfortunately, not everyone would like this news because a lot of the esports fans previously expressed their hatred for Saudi Arabia whenever they get involved in the competitive scene.

There's also the news about Old G potentially getting disqualified once more because Aramis suddenly left the team, and Old G is close to hitting the match limit that a sub can play for the entire tour.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on June 19, 2023, 01:18:43 PM

Everyone, aren't you hype with this news or did you already see the good news about having an Esports City in Saudi Arabia?

It's gonna be a worth $500M city for building this place. That's a lot of money for the Saudi Arabia to build this but I think that the crowned prince has got the influence on why this has made. If anyone still haven't seen it yet, the prince has always been trending when there's the battle pass for Dota 2.

I'd be thrilled if i'd be able to go there, but unfortunately I can't. It's a lot more closer to me compared to the US or Europe, but then again there are still a lot of requirements for me as a tourist if I were to visit Saudi Arabia just for that. But going back, there'd be a lot of exciting events that could be possibly made on this ambitious project, though hopefully it's accessible to a lot of gamers and not just the ultra-elites.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on June 19, 2023, 01:18:43 PM

Everyone, aren't you hype with this news or did you already see the good news about having an Esports City in Saudi Arabia?

It's gonna be a worth $500M city for building this place. That's a lot of money for the Saudi Arabia to build this but I think that the crowned prince has got the influence on why this has made. If anyone still haven't seen it yet, the prince has always been trending when there's the battle pass for Dota 2.

That is a big thing for esports. The Riyadh Masters already have a huge prize pool, imagine how much more it will get if there is already a dedicated Esports City in Saudi Arabia. It has the potential to be even bigger than the biggest prize pool in TI. It will push Esports to even greater heights. Hopefully, it will become a success because it will cater to a lot of Esports events if that comes to reality.

Quote from: emrecemsan on June 19, 2023, 01:07:34 PM

Even s1mple can't be very consistent regularly these days. This isn't the NaVi team we have known.

He is just human, and he can be inconsistent. And maybe, he is already on the decline in his skills. He has been the top CSGO player for quite some time now, and the fatigue of playing the game must have caught up with him. Younger players have caught up with him and new players are getting better and better.

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Everyone, aren't you hype with this news or did you already see the good news about having an Esports City in Saudi Arabia?

It's gonna be a worth $500M city for building this place. That's a lot of money for the Saudi Arabia to build this but I think that the crowned prince has got the influence on why this has made. If anyone still haven't seen it yet, the prince has always been trending when there's the battle pass for Dota 2.

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Quote from: execijutiere on June 18, 2023, 08:29:19 AM

I don't think npl is the main problem, but of course a better player can be transferred to replace npl.There are obviously some mismatches in the team and I give it to the ego war between them.S1mple is a really good player, but I think he sometimes reflects it badly on his teammates. Of course we don't know exactly what's going on behind the scenes, but that's my opinion.NaVi's roster is still top notch, but they don't have the igl to provide enough frag contribution.I'm in favor of transferring hobb1t from C9.It will definitely be a plus for them.

Going for an international player can be really interesting for NaVi. Because they have had a really strict policy about signing only Ukrainian or Russian players into their roster. It looks like they really can't find the one for in-game leader role in these countries. It is hard to predict if this would be good for the team. As long as there isn't any problem on communication with the player to be brought then it is okay.

If I were in their shoes I would have looked for the best in-game leaders in Europe. They really need a solid teamwork to bring back their dominant times.

Even s1mple can't be very consistent regularly these days. This isn't the NaVi team we have known.

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Quote from: arallmuus on June 18, 2023, 05:58:29 PM

Quote from: tusandii on June 18, 2023, 09:21:05 AM

This is just a match on Dota2 Dreamhack so things are hard to guess

Its actually Dreamleague instead of Dreamhack and I think most teams are actually abit more enthusiastic compared to the last Major. Some teams have already qualified for TI so they probably wouldnt care much about the last Major but every remaining teams want to get to top 2 in this Dreamleague. We are talking about the chance to qualify for the next Riyadh Master for $15M prizepool

Thats almost similar prizepool to the last TI

Yes, some teams are more enthusiastic and excited about playing in the Dreamhack match than the last Major, but at least this kind of match still has a final result that is completely unpredictable, different from big tournaments like TI.
You are right that several teams have already qualified for the TI tournament which will be held in October and we can take advantage of this tournament to really get more chances of winning bets.

Even though the Riyadh Master has quite a large prize pool and is almost similar to TI, the TI tournament is the tournament that every team wants to win later on.

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Quote from: tusandii on June 18, 2023, 09:21:05 AM

This is just a match on Dota2 Dreamhack so things are hard to guess

Its actually Dreamleague instead of Dreamhack and I think most teams are actually abit more enthusiastic compared to the last Major. Some teams have already qualified for TI so they probably wouldnt care much about the last Major but every remaining teams want to get to top 2 in this Dreamleague. We are talking about the chance to qualify for the next Riyadh Master for $15M prizepool

Thats almost similar prizepool to the last TI

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Quote from: dothebeats on June 17, 2023, 02:59:56 PM

Quote from: tusandii on June 17, 2023, 01:14:22 PM

At Dota2 Dreamhack there are two matches that interest me to bet on them even though they are risky but they seem to give a decent chance of winning.
Team Spirit vs GG
9 Pandas vs Talon Esports
I took the win for GG and Talon by doing a multi bet.

Isn't 9 Pandas way stronger than Talon right now? The odds are somewhat tricky to decide on, and 2.35 is a huge odd to pass on. If I were you, I wouldn't really add this match to any multi bet, and I would do singles and bet for Talon just to be safe. The first one you already have on the leg is relatively safe however 9 Pandas is just playing quite well right now that I am having doubts on how well Talon can go against them.

I don't know which one is the strongest of the two, but I'm sure Talon play very well this year.
This is just a match on Dota2 Dreamhack so things are hard to guess and the game could easily turn around even though 9 Pandas is better.
Talon on DPC is very good and can keep up with several other strong teams so there is still a high probability for them to win the match against 9 Pandas.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on June 18, 2023, 04:29:13 AM

It looks like NaVi have decided to bench npl after an inadequate level of performance. You know he was replaced by sdy temporarily. But his rating during his time here was really low. I don't know if he is the main problem behind the unsuccessful run now but I also think they should sign a better player quickly. Since Boombl4's departure NaVi have been experiencing serious issues with filling his place with the right player. He was the IGL of the team in the end and this role is very important for success.

NaVi's last championship was in PGL Major Stockholm 2021. They haven't been able to win any titles since then and this is serious for a big team like them.

I don't think npl is the main problem, but of course a better player can be transferred to replace npl.There are obviously some mismatches in the team and I give it to the ego war between them.S1mple is a really good player, but I think he sometimes reflects it badly on his teammates. Of course we don't know exactly what's going on behind the scenes, but that's my opinion.NaVi's roster is still top notch, but they don't have the igl to provide enough frag contribution.I'm in favor of transferring hobb1t from C9.It will definitely be a plus for them.

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It looks like NaVi have decided to bench npl after an inadequate level of performance. You know he was replaced by sdy temporarily. But his rating during his time here was really low. I don't know if he is the main problem behind the unsuccessful run now but I also think they should sign a better player quickly. Since Boombl4's departure NaVi have been experiencing serious issues with filling his place with the right player. He was the IGL of the team in the end and this role is very important for success.

NaVi's last championship was in PGL Major Stockholm 2021. They haven't been able to win any titles since then and this is serious for a big team like them.

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I am also preferring Team Spirit to GG. GG are playing quite bad at the moment and Team Spirit to take one map is almost free money in my opinion. I am taking that on my main multi ticket and adding a single Team Spirit to win 2:1 just for fun.

9 Pandas and Talon is over 2.5 maps for me. Good odds and I really don't know who wins this one.

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Quote from: tusandii on June 17, 2023, 01:14:22 PM

At Dota2 Dreamhack there are two matches that interest me to bet on them even though they are risky but they seem to give a decent chance of winning.
Team Spirit vs GG
9 Pandas vs Talon Esports
I took the win for GG and Talon by doing a multi bet.

Isn't 9 Pandas way stronger than Talon right now? The odds are somewhat tricky to decide on, and 2.35 is a huge odd to pass on. If I were you, I wouldn't really add this match to any multi bet, and I would do singles and bet for Talon just to be safe. The first one you already have on the leg is relatively safe however 9 Pandas is just playing quite well right now that I am having doubts on how well Talon can go against them.

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At Dota2 Dreamhack there are two matches that interest me to bet on them even though they are risky but they seem to give a decent chance of winning.
Team Spirit vs GG
9 Pandas vs Talon Esports
I took the win for GG and Talon by doing a multi bet.

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Quote from: tusandii on June 13, 2023, 09:53:39 AM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on June 12, 2023, 04:43:45 PM

Not really, there are still a lot of interest for Dota 2 and that is because we've got two threads for esports and the other folks have been posting also there so, maybe the other one is more active than this.

Dota 2 is still enjoyed by a lot of users here and many gamblers who are also members of the forum bet on Dota 2 matches.
It is true that there are two threads here but I think this is the only thread that forum users are most interested in and this thread is more active on compare with the other thread.

Both are active and wherever you post, as long as the discussions are all about Dota 2 or any other esports that's totally fine.

Quote from: tusandii on June 13, 2023, 09:53:39 AM

One of the of the end of the esports thread for Dota 2 discussion is not very active because Dota 2 matches have a few days gap in each match.
I'm sure that soon when the TI Dota 2 tournament starts, the discussion thread will be very active again every day.

Yeah, that's what will happen when the TI has come or even the Bali majors have been on the schedule. But that's still a few months away and there's still some interesting LAN tournaments that are not DPC that's about to come because they're interesting due to the prize pool that it's about to give and one is Riyadh masters.

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Quote from: arallmuus on June 14, 2023, 04:39:13 PM

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Anyway today is still another break even for me but yeah atleast Im not losing money so I could save some up onto the playoff but I got another single on NGX -1.5 and its looking pretty good right now as they have won the 1st map

When I thought I had this one in bag and I might get some good profit from this, NGX ended up pretty dissapointing on the 2nd map. Roll Eyes

I guess I dont have any luck with NGX recently as I have been losing for quite a while everytime I bet on them ( or against them )

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 15, 2023, 08:23:23 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on June 14, 2023, 06:31:51 PM

That is true, many have become busy with their real-world lives and that's why a lot of people in our friend's lists are no longer active. That's a sad thing about playing Dota 2 but looking at events, they're keep going and tournaments after tournaments again and we're on the last few of it before the grandest Dota 2 event, TI.

Time flies so fast mate. I felt like I just graduated a few years ago. Me and my closest college friends of around 30 have a group chat to connect to each other. We used to play DOTA even until dawn but now there are only 3 that are playing actively. But yeah, we are also excited about every majors and TIs and sometimes plan on watching it live as well.

That's what true life really is. We've been once active with our closest friends, college friends, online friends and even with random strangers that we meet in-game and adds us as a friend.

Quote from: boltz on June 15, 2023, 11:45:17 AM

This DreamLeague has been a burner for me as 90% of my bets ended up with a loss even if I had some great games catching x9 odds and so on but in the end , I got burned and it's no the meta , it's the players and some teams who are really hiding strategies or some of them , already being qualified for TI , they won't shop up with all potential ( ex : Liquid ) and that makes betting in DreamLeague super unpredictable.

Now , with Groupstage phase2 and with Bo3 games incoming , we might have a full series of quick 2-0 because most of the games from Phase 1 groups were 1-1.

I can't blame you for being disappointed with the results. That's what everyone is noticing on this Dream League because it's like an unimportant tournament for those teams that are looking forward to the Bali major up to the upcoming The International. On this group stage 2, there will be no more ties as all matches are a best of 3 series starting within the next several hours.

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The new season in TCL has finally started. I was quite excited about the changes in SuperMassive roster. Because only Serin has remained from the old roster and the rest of the players have been replaced. I know especially Armut and Zeitnot very well as Armut is a really decent top laner while Zeitnot is a dominating bottom laner. Chieftain (jungler) and Reble (support) are other new transfers also.

I started to get quite expectant from this team in TCL of course. But the most important question was whether they would get used to play in coherence as a team quickly. But I'm afraid they have made a terrible start. First the destruction by NASR Esports and today the loss against the last champion Istanbul Wildcats. They need to work harder to have a stronger team composition or this change won't mean anything for this season at least.

The current standings:

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This DreamLeague has been a burner for me as 90% of my bets ended up with a loss even if I had some great games catching x9 odds and so on but in the end , I got burned and it's no the meta , it's the players and some teams who are really hiding strategies or some of them , already being qualified for TI , they won't shop up with all potential ( ex : Liquid ) and that makes betting in DreamLeague super unpredictable.

Now , with Groupstage phase2 and with Bo3 games incoming , we might have a full series of quick 2-0 because most of the games from Phase 1 groups were 1-1.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 14, 2023, 07:29:26 AM

I remember before the Covid-19 pandemic, there was a stat saying the number of DOTA players is declining and it probably continued in the last few years. Maybe some of us became busy with our careers and are having families now. I myself just like most of my DOTA friends since college aren't that active anymore as well. Although I am still tracking the happenings, especially TI and its majors. And until now it is one of my goals to attend a major or a TI.

That is true, many have become busy with their real-world lives and that's why a lot of people in our friend's lists are no longer active. That's a sad thing about playing Dota 2 but looking at events, they're keep going and tournaments after tournaments again and we're on the last few of it before the grandest Dota 2 event, TI.

Time flies so fast mate. I felt like I just graduated a few years ago. Me and my closest college friends of around 30 have a group chat to connect to each other. We used to play DOTA even until dawn but now there are only 3 that are playing actively. But yeah, we are also excited about every majors and TIs and sometimes plan on watching it live as well.

Quote from: inthelongrun on June 14, 2023, 07:29:26 AM

This ongoing tournament is not a major which is why some are not interested. The prize pool though is twice as big as the majors so this should be an interesting one. And most top teams in the world are also the ones competing.

Also, many teams now have been eliminated from the Dream League Season 20 and most of those are gonna participate in the Bali major. But whoever gets first and second on this will get a direct invite to a bigger cash tournament, Riyadh Masters.
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It's unlucky though that some players and a team were not able to compete. Riyadh Masters indeed has a whooping huge prize pool. Not surprising for a country that offered Messi $1.6 billion for a 3-year contract.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 14, 2023, 07:29:26 AM

I remember before the Covid-19 pandemic, there was a stat saying the number of DOTA players is declining and it probably continued in the last few years. Maybe some of us became busy with our careers and are having families now. I myself just like most of my DOTA friends since college aren't that active anymore as well. Although I am still tracking the happenings, especially TI and its majors. And until now it is one of my goals to attend a major or a TI.

That is true, many have become busy with their real-world lives and that's why a lot of people in our friend's lists are no longer active. That's a sad thing about playing Dota 2 but looking at events, they're keep going and tournaments after tournaments again and we're on the last few of it before the grandest Dota 2 event, TI.

Quote from: inthelongrun on June 14, 2023, 07:29:26 AM

This ongoing tournament is not a major which is why some are not interested. The prize pool though is twice as big as the majors so this should be an interesting one. And most top teams in the world are also the ones competing.

Also, many teams now have been eliminated from the Dream League Season 20 and most of those are gonna participate in the Bali major. But whoever gets first and second on this will get a direct invite to a bigger cash tournament, Riyadh Masters.

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