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Quote from: dbshck on March 04, 2023, 02:02:15 AM

Three matches on EPL S17 for tonight. No clear favourites here so it should be fun. I'm betting on Complexity, BIG, and SAW.

Uhh bad picks, 1/3 correct. The COL vs IMP got really close. The third map even went to triple overtime. In the end, COL took the win despite losing the first map 1-16. There were some crazy highlights: JT 1v4 clutch the first overtime when they were down 17-18 against Imperial's match point on an elimination match. Insane clutch.

I'm placing a simple parlay on the favourites again for today's matches.

Quote from: Balmain on March 04, 2023, 05:54:49 PM

BIG continues on its way by winning one and losing one. Furia, some players got extra frags and they won the match. BIG can get better when the new changes fit right in. They have a game against Complexity tomorrow. They had previously beaten 2-1. I haven't checked the odds yet, which is a bit more likely to win this match. Sunday's other match will be between Mouz and Heroic. This match should not be too difficult for Heroic.

Agree, Heroic is easily the favourite to win Group B.

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Quote from: jakelyson on March 04, 2023, 05:51:55 PM

Not the same though. They have this Major locked in if Boxi is healthy. It is just different when someone in your lineup is suddenly replaced. But they have no choice, they have to prioritize Boxi's health. The effect of Boxi not playing is very evident against GG. Gaimin Gladiators walked easily on them on both maps.

Yup, it seems likely for them to finish third place after that one-sided performance from GG and my outright bet might not hit as the bookies currently have them as the underdog against Talon.

Atm, I want to double dip on Team Liquid given their odds are sitting at around 2.70 - 2.80 between different bookies but i'll just let my outright bet play out for now and maybe wait for the draft.

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BIG continues on its way by winning one and losing one. Furia, some players got extra frags and they won the match. BIG can get better when the new changes fit right in. They have a game against Complexity tomorrow. They had previously beaten 2-1. I haven't checked the odds yet, which is a bit more likely to win this match. Sunday's other match will be between Mouz and Heroic. This match should not be too difficult for Heroic.

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Quote from: arallmuus on March 04, 2023, 05:26:59 PM

It seems Team Liquid is not the same monster on this Major with their full lineup but they did make it to top 3 though so even if they ended up losing the next one as well then atleast it is guaranteed that they are going to walk away with some DPC points

Not the same though. They have this Major locked in if Boxi is healthy. It is just different when someone in your lineup is suddenly replaced. But they have no choice, they have to prioritize Boxi's health. The effect of Boxi not playing is very evident against GG. Gaimin Gladiators walked easily on them on both maps.

Talon vs Shopify Rebellion has just begun. I am taking some action on this series. It will be a close match so I am betting it will take 3 maps to know the winner of this series. Both teams are good and it will be a toss between the two who will win. But I am going to SR to take this series.

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GG vs Team Liquid is a very one-sided game. TL being sent to the LB is very unfortunate, and hopefully Boxi comes back from rest before their LB finals commence. Rooting for Shopify to win against Talon but the SEA team is performing extremely well right now. I'll let game 1 pass before I bet on the next game because these two teams are currently on a roll and have the momentum going for them. Artour seems to be on a good position mentally as he's making play after plays for SR. But yeah, a toss coin of a game nonetheless. Good luck to our bets!

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Quote from: Coin_trader on March 04, 2023, 02:07:05 PM

Boxi is a good Pos 4 and we don’t know how the heck Jabbz play. But one thing is for sure that Micke and Nisha are monster on this league. They can beat the shit out of GG with the right draft for them.

I will still go for Liquid even without Boxi if there core will play the same since pos 4 can be compensated with a strong laning phase which Nisha is good in Midlane. They will find a way to win this match. Does this match belongs to a parlay bet of yours? This will surely gonna be sting in case Jabbz doesn’t full fill his role even on an average pos 4.

It seems Team Liquid is not the same monster on this Major with their full lineup but they did make it to top 3 though so even if they ended up losing the next one as well then atleast it is guaranteed that they are going to walk away with some DPC points

So anyone betting anything on the next one between Talon and SR? I took Talon to win and given that they won their last game against Entity, I think this could be potential 2-0 as well but just to be safe with my bet hence Talon to win ( although the odds is pretty lame tbh )

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Furia was the winner in the Furia-BIG match. Big beat the second map. In the decider map, we can say that saffee in furia brought the win to his team with a superior performance. In general, when we look at the scores, we can see that saffee and kscerato are at a better level than the team. We should say that both players played a big role in this win for their team by getting 66 kills.
In the last match of the day, we are watching movistar riders vs saw. Movistar riders won in overpass, which is the map of their choice at the moment.

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Quote from: ralle14 on March 02, 2023, 09:05:27 PM

I almost thought we'll be seeing a third game because that second game should've been a win for SR but Team Liquid was able to hold on and stop their power spike during the 20+ mins mark.

With SR knocked down to the lower bracket it looks like we could possibly see a matchup between them and EG if they can beat Team Aster tomorrow.

They really will be matching as Team Aster have been beaten by EG but we don't need to wait until tomorrow as the match will happen after the series of Talon and Team Spirit. If you want to bet for that match guys, my tip is that Shopify Rebellion has got the upper hand on this match. Why?
Because Evil Geniuses just came from a tough 3 matches against Team Aster and that has probably drained their minds already. Whilst for SR, this is their only match for this day. I wonder why the scheduling is like that but well, since it's in the lower bracket, all of the favors and toughness are in there.

i thought the match is for tomorrow lol.

I'd be going for -1.5 for Shopify Rebellion in here simply because they are well rested and had the chance to watch how EG plays and learn of some of the strategies they have used during their series with Team Aster. Favorites are SR right now but the -1.5 maps option is still juicy enough for the taking if you want some extra risks to take. I wouldn't call it SR win too early, but with the state of EG right now--drained and tired from the previous match--it's easier for me to favor SR. It will also add if Rtz gives us some more highlights during the day that favors their team to advance in the tournament.

That's okay, Shopify Rebellion just won that and within a few moments from now on they'll be up against Talon Esports and this is the battle for fourth place. I've watched the match between SR and EG and all I can say is that EG really did well in all of those games. And there's the advantage for Shopify Rebellion as you have said they've drained already because they've been with a series just a few hours before they start with SR. Despite that advantage from SR, EG showed that they are one of the best teams in SA and I can say not just there but, also in the entire world IMO. Right on, waiting for the start of Talon Esports and SR.

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The Furia-Big match continues. Furia leads 1-0. Big chose the first map but they couldn't win. When they could not win the map of their choice, they fell behind 1-0.kscerato again showed his difference and played an important role in winning the map. Now the vertigo map chosen by furia is being played. There is now an 11-11 tie and it is difficult to predict who will win the map.

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Talon is continuing their win streak after beating TS and I think there’s a high chance that they can 2-0 Entity now if they continue having that kind of draft. 23Savage is unstoppable by using Sunder in creative way just to prolong the team fight.

They are still battling on map 2 but this one will be a clean sweep for Talon. Don't think TB has a chance against such a big burst that Talon has. TA and Zeus both on top of the network have more than enough damage to dispatch anybody.

Keeping my fingers crossed Liquid manages to keep the streak even with stand in. Hate it that there is no cash back on Sportsbet when we have eSports on the ticket.

Boxi is a good Pos 4 and we don’t know how the heck Jabbz play. But one thing is for sure that Micke and Nisha are monster on this league. They can beat the shit out of GG with the right draft for them.

I will still go for Liquid even without Boxi if there core will play the same since pos 4 can be compensated with a strong laning phase which Nisha is good in Midlane. They will find a way to win this match. Does this match belongs to a parlay bet of yours? This will surely gonna be sting in case Jabbz doesn’t full fill his role even on an average pos 4.

In this first game, I'm liking the draft of GG even more. They got a lot of setups that can convert into kills and Io with CK or Lesh is just crazy since you can run down literally any opponents (in this case almost ALL of Liquid) once you got Bloodstone on your Lesh. Just hope that Micke and Nisha gets a good laning stage in order to not get that scenario that I mentioned above. GG's draft is good for taking early objectives whereas Team Liquid relies on dragging the game as much as they can in order to win the match.

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Quote from: Trofo on March 04, 2023, 01:28:26 PM

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Talon is continuing their win streak after beating TS and I think there’s a high chance that they can 2-0 Entity now if they continue having that kind of draft. 23Savage is unstoppable by using Sunder in creative way just to prolong the team fight.

They are still battling on map 2 but this one will be a clean sweep for Talon. Don't think TB has a chance against such a big burst that Talon has. TA and Zeus both on top of the network have more than enough damage to dispatch anybody.

Keeping my fingers crossed Liquid manages to keep the streak even with stand in. Hate it that there is no cash back on Sportsbet when we have eSports on the ticket.

Boxi is a good Pos 4 and we don’t know how the heck Jabbz play. But one thing is for sure that Micke and Nisha are monster on this league. They can beat the shit out of GG with the right draft for them.

I will still go for Liquid even without Boxi if there core will play the same since pos 4 can be compensated with a strong laning phase which Nisha is good in Midlane. They will find a way to win this match. Does this match belongs to a parlay bet of yours? This will surely gonna be sting in case Jabbz doesn’t full fill his role even on an average pos 4.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on March 04, 2023, 12:40:41 PM

Who’s watching current match between Talon and Entity. Surprisingly Talon dominates Entity on the first map. Talon draft has a lot of control for having Batrider, Tiny and Treant at the same time they have a very chewy hero they get because they can stand on a team fight with DP Exo active.

Talon is continuing their win streak after beating TS and I think there’s a high chance that they can 2-0 Entity now if they continue having that kind of draft. 23Savage is unstoppable by using Sunder in creative way just to prolong the team fight.

Entity has no chance winning the game 2 for having that kind of draft. Even they have Blackhole, it’s still useless for the line up of Talon that has a lot of crowd control like cookie which definitely counter the perfect setup with one cookie on hero inside the blackhole. Tiny(Ava toss) - Zeus (Wrath/Lbolt) and Snapfire(Kisses) combo is enough to burst anyone not to mention how massive the damage of 23savage.

I think Talon has a chance to beat another team on the lower bracket to have very good lower bracket run. Q is owns tiny on both map.

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Quote from: arallmuus on March 04, 2023, 01:06:58 PM

Quote from: ralle14 on March 03, 2023, 08:27:22 PM

We might see a closer upper-bracket final tomorrow as Team Liquid's coach posted on Twitter that Boxi won't be playing anymore due to a medical issue and their analyst Jabbz will be taking in the support role.

https://twitter.com/Blitz_DotA/status/1631782259475853313

Damn I didnt know about this but I already took Team Liquid -1.5 few hours ago

I had my suspicion with this odds though but I thought that hey, its the upper bracket final on a Major so everything could happen in this game then proceed to take this bet. What a clown Roll Eyes

Haha the announcement was quite early so yeah, it was rough. But anyway, the 4 of them plus the analyst can still put up a fight. Might not be a -1.5 in favor of Liquid but for sure they wouldn't be going down without a fight. The favorites also turned as a lot of bettors swayed towards GG as of the moment, with Team Liquid getting as low as 2.15 odds to win this matchup. Will be sneaking some $$$ towards Team Liquid win if the odds sways a little bit further towards GG side.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on March 04, 2023, 12:40:41 PM

Talon is continuing their win streak after beating TS and I think there’s a high chance that they can 2-0 Entity now if they continue having that kind of draft. 23Savage is unstoppable by using Sunder in creative way just to prolong the team fight.

They are still battling on map 2 but this one will be a clean sweep for Talon. Don't think TB has a chance against such a big burst that Talon has. TA and Zeus both on top of the network have more than enough damage to dispatch anybody.

Keeping my fingers crossed Liquid manages to keep the streak even with stand in. Hate it that there is no cash back on Sportsbet when we have eSports on the ticket.

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Quote from: ralle14 on March 03, 2023, 08:27:22 PM

We might see a closer upper-bracket final tomorrow as Team Liquid's coach posted on Twitter that Boxi won't be playing anymore due to a medical issue and their analyst Jabbz will be taking in the support role.

https://twitter.com/Blitz_DotA/status/1631782259475853313

Damn I didnt know about this but I already took Team Liquid -1.5 few hours ago

I had my suspicion with this odds though but I thought that hey, its the upper bracket final on a Major so everything could happen in this game then proceed to take this bet. What a clown Roll Eyes

Quote from: ralle14 on March 03, 2023, 08:27:22 PM

their analyst Jabbz

I had to reread this lol, I thought its the same Jabz that play pos 3 from Talon lol. Anyway I took over 2.5 maps on this game so now I need Entity to win the 2nd map to win this one

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Who’s watching current match between Talon and Entity. Surprisingly Talon dominates Entity on the first map. Talon draft has a lot of control for having Batrider, Tiny and Treant at the same time they have a very chewy hero they get because they can stand on a team fight with DP Exo active.

Talon is continuing their win streak after beating TS and I think there’s a high chance that they can 2-0 Entity now if they continue having that kind of draft. 23Savage is unstoppable by using Sunder in creative way just to prolong the team fight.

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Despite winning the first map very comfortably, Imperial failed to win the match. With a 16-1 win on the map of their choice, they actually started both morale and the opponent was demoralized, but they could not win the other maps. They could not win on the Decider map despite going to overtime 3 times. Fallen had a good performance, but this performance was not enough for them to win.

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Quote from: vennali on March 03, 2023, 07:19:21 PM

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i thought the match is for tomorrow lol.

I'd be going for -1.5 for Shopify Rebellion in here simply because they are well rested and had the chance to watch how EG plays and learn of some of the strategies they have used during their series with Team Aster. Favorites are SR right now but the -1.5 maps option is still juicy enough for the taking if you want some extra risks to take. I wouldn't call it SR win too early, but with the state of EG right now--drained and tired from the previous match--it's easier for me to favor SR. It will also add if Rtz gives us some more highlights during the day that favors their team to advance in the tournament.

That's old EG vs New EG. -1.5 on Shopify could be a bit risky as EG has crowd advantage and they are playing fairly well. RTZ has been looking good though and has had a fair few highlights(especially, his SF). Shopify vs EG starts in another 15 mins. Should be a great contest. Shopify should win it but it could be close.

Edit: Update on the previous match. Talon surprised Team Spirit and got themselves a comeback win after being down game 1 and were down in game 3 as well and it felt like it could be curtains for Talon but they made an impressive comeback. All the matches have been very entertaining. Some really good dota, even though the patch is very very old at this point and there's not much innovation left in it.

Many people before doubting the Team spirit after they lose in TI and right now they are showing a good record in this event, even though Torontokyo is not with them but still the new EG is the really new meta right now like as we expect from RTZ another game play that marked the whole career of the dota 2 what an aegis steal from this SF fear ultimate with a bkb snatch and TP out, this man never fails for a good carry if this time the new team SR have a chance to be part of the DPC for the next TI for sure game they can secure the top 4 again.

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Quote from: Trofo on March 04, 2023, 05:41:37 AM

Damn, I already made a bet on Liquid to win the series before reading the news. Couldn't believe they were giving equal odds for this game ans snatched at the opportunity. Ah well, it is what it is, now the odds on Gladiators will continue to drop and it isn't even worth it to cover. If I could get yesterday odds I would play GG to win 1 map. That seems like a best play now but I missed my chance.

Doesn't matter, at least I got something on late matches yesterday. I was sure Talon has that third map after seeing the drafts but still was sweating quite a bit before they killed that TB for the first time.

Nice win! both matches, 3rd map got very sweaty. I thought Talon lost it as they were down quite a bit on gold difference in the 3rd game but they just looked better in team fight scenarios. I was hoping for EG to win but in the end, they just crumbled. They had played good dota until then but Shopify put up some great resistance and fight in the end. Just a bit too much for the SA team.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 03, 2023, 07:49:23 PM

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 03, 2023, 06:04:50 PM

i thought the match is for tomorrow lol.

I'd be going for -1.5 for Shopify Rebellion in here simply because they are well rested and had the chance to watch how EG plays and learn of some of the strategies they have used during their series with Team Aster. Favorites are SR right now but the -1.5 maps option is still juicy enough for the taking if you want some extra risks to take. I wouldn't call it SR win too early, but with the state of EG right now--drained and tired from the previous match--it's easier for me to favor SR. It will also add if Rtz gives us some more highlights during the day that favors their team to advance in the tournament.

That's old EG vs New EG. -1.5 on Shopify could be a bit risky as EG has crowd advantage and they are playing fairly well. RTZ has been looking good though and has had a fair few highlights(especially, his SF). Shopify vs EG starts in another 15 mins. Should be a great contest. Shopify should win it but it could be close.

The back to back games might favor EG's momentum plus their crowd advantage, but I don't think it's enough if you're physically and mentally tired playing for hours straight with the highest pressure there is. Sound cues from the crowd might help EG, but I think SR can also use it to their advantage and rethink of their moves and let EG come to them. Overall, I weight SR's chances to move forward to be bigger than EG. Strat wise and meta wise, SR has it, while EG so far has won most of their matches through clutches. If they can't make it work, they're basically done for.

It's a sweet victory by Shopify Rebellion the former rosters of EG. Although fatigue of EG was probably a factor, SR was just chilling, waiting, and observing. Meanwhile, there are a lot of reports about how the crowd uses whistles trying to warn EG during smokes. Fly also observed it during EG's series with Aster. Good thing SR was able to figure it out so they secretly knew before their series with EG about the whistles. This major has a lot of negative feedback.

Meanwhile, the unfortunate absence of Boxi on Liquid made them the slight underdog against GG. I have my bet on GG and on SR too since it is only waiting, resting, and observing on the Talon vs Entity series.

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