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Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 08:07:27 AM

Circular reasoning. I say something is random, you say nothing is random because everything has a cause, I ask you, how do you know and you say because everything has a cause. I ask you what is the cause of my random process, you say, there is no need to prove it because everything has a cause.

Quantum processes are random until you can prove they have a cause, that's what science says.

Again, this topic is about evolution. Prove even one non-C&E action. Then prove the loads of non-C&E actions it would take to have a non-C&E mutation so that evolution could happen. It hasn't been done. No proof of even one non-C&E mutation. Or do you have one? Until somebody does, evolution is all guesswork.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 08:04:51 AM

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Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 07:51:37 AM

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Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 07:14:34 AM

Quantum processes are random, evolution is real.

Blah, blah, blah. Quantum processes are NOT random.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

EDIT: What you need to understand about simple random as defined in the dictionary, is that cause and effect permeates this random. It is only called random, because people are to "weak" to discern the C&E involved. What this shows us is that random is not really random. Rather, random is programmed by C&E just like everything else.

Find us some pure random that is not programmed by C&E. Quantum is simply detailed, complex dictionary random... which is C&E programmed like everything else.

Yes they are, all science shows they are random, no one has ever been able to present a hypothesis that would explain their cause.
'' It is only called random, because people are too "weak" to discern the C&E involved. '' Then you wouldn't mind proving all science wrong and show them what the cause is, right? Oh wait you can't, you are a fraud that makes shit up to fit your delusional views of the world.

Quantum processes are random, there is nothing in science that says something cannot be random and there is nothing in science that says everything is random.

Evolution is real, you are a dishonest liar and you know it.

As I said above in the edit, random "is only called random, because people are too "weak" to discern the C&E involved."

Since this topic is about evolution, show even one factual pure random, non-C&E mutation. Nobody knows of even one. Evolution theory is all guesswork.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

As I said above in the edit, random "is only called random, because people are too "weak" to discern the C&E involved." Prove it.

Quantum processes are random, so many other chains of causes are also random because fundamentally particles are random

You are a dishonest liar.

It's not necessary to prove it, because nobody has ever found any non-C&E action that they can factually prove.

Quantum is not random except in the sense of my edit, above.

Particles are not random except in the sense of my edit, above.

Since this topic is about evolution, show even one factual pure random, non-C&E mutation. Nobody knows of even one. Evolution theory is all guesswork.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Circular reasoning. I say something is random, you say nothing is random because everything has a cause, I ask you, how do you know and you say because everything has a cause. I ask you what is the cause of my random process, you say, there is no need to prove it because everything has a cause.

Quantum processes are random until you can prove they have a cause, that's what science says.

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Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 07:59:46 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 07:55:52 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 07:51:37 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 07:19:49 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 07:14:34 AM

Quantum processes are random, evolution is real.

Blah, blah, blah. Quantum processes are NOT random.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

EDIT: What you need to understand about simple random as defined in the dictionary, is that cause and effect permeates this random. It is only called random, because people are to "weak" to discern the C&E involved. What this shows us is that random is not really random. Rather, random is programmed by C&E just like everything else.

Find us some pure random that is not programmed by C&E. Quantum is simply detailed, complex dictionary random... which is C&E programmed like everything else.

Yes they are, all science shows they are random, no one has ever been able to present a hypothesis that would explain their cause.
'' It is only called random, because people are too "weak" to discern the C&E involved. '' Then you wouldn't mind proving all science wrong and show them what the cause is, right? Oh wait you can't, you are a fraud that makes shit up to fit your delusional views of the world.

Quantum processes are random, there is nothing in science that says something cannot be random and there is nothing in science that says everything is random.

Evolution is real, you are a dishonest liar and you know it.

As I said above in the edit, random "is only called random, because people are too "weak" to discern the C&E involved."

Since this topic is about evolution, show even one factual pure random, non-C&E mutation. Nobody knows of even one. Evolution theory is all guesswork.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

As I said above in the edit, random "is only called random, because people are too "weak" to discern the C&E involved." Prove it.

Quantum processes are random, so many other chains of causes are also random because fundamentally particles are random

You are a dishonest liar.

It's not necessary to prove it, because nobody has ever found any non-C&E action that they can factually prove.

Quantum is not random except in the sense of my edit, above.

Particles are not random except in the sense of my edit, above.

Since this topic is about evolution, show even one factual pure random, non-C&E mutation. Nobody knows of even one. Evolution theory is all guesswork.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 07:55:52 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 07:51:37 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 07:19:49 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 07:14:34 AM

Quantum processes are random, evolution is real.

Blah, blah, blah. Quantum processes are NOT random.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

EDIT: What you need to understand about simple random as defined in the dictionary, is that cause and effect permeates this random. It is only called random, because people are to "weak" to discern the C&E involved. What this shows us is that random is not really random. Rather, random is programmed by C&E just like everything else.

Find us some pure random that is not programmed by C&E. Quantum is simply detailed, complex dictionary random... which is C&E programmed like everything else.

Yes they are, all science shows they are random, no one has ever been able to present a hypothesis that would explain their cause.
'' It is only called random, because people are too "weak" to discern the C&E involved. '' Then you wouldn't mind proving all science wrong and show them what the cause is, right? Oh wait you can't, you are a fraud that makes shit up to fit your delusional views of the world.

Quantum processes are random, there is nothing in science that says something cannot be random and there is nothing in science that says everything is random.

Evolution is real, you are a dishonest liar and you know it.

As I said above in the edit, random "is only called random, because people are too "weak" to discern the C&E involved."

Since this topic is about evolution, show even one factual pure random, non-C&E mutation. Nobody knows of even one. Evolution theory is all guesswork.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

As I said above in the edit, random "is only called random, because people are too "weak" to discern the C&E involved." Prove it.

Quantum processes are random, so many other chains of causes are also random because fundamentally particles are random

You are a dishonest liar.

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Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 07:51:37 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 07:19:49 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 07:14:34 AM

Quantum processes are random, evolution is real.

Blah, blah, blah. Quantum processes are NOT random.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

EDIT: What you need to understand about simple random as defined in the dictionary, is that cause and effect permeates this random. It is only called random, because people are to "weak" to discern the C&E involved. What this shows us is that random is not really random. Rather, random is programmed by C&E just like everything else.

Find us some pure random that is not programmed by C&E. Quantum is simply detailed, complex dictionary random... which is C&E programmed like everything else.

Yes they are, all science shows they are random, no one has ever been able to present a hypothesis that would explain their cause.
'' It is only called random, because people are too "weak" to discern the C&E involved. '' Then you wouldn't mind proving all science wrong and show them what the cause is, right? Oh wait you can't, you are a fraud that makes shit up to fit your delusional views of the world.

Quantum processes are random, there is nothing in science that says something cannot be random and there is nothing in science that says everything is random.

Evolution is real, you are a dishonest liar and you know it.

As I said above in the edit, random "is only called random, because people are too "weak" to discern the C&E involved."

Since this topic is about evolution, show even one factual pure random, non-C&E mutation. Nobody knows of even one. Evolution theory is all guesswork.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 07:19:49 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 07:14:34 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 06:38:20 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 06:27:12 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 06:22:56 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 06:12:30 AM

There is no scientific field that says everything has a cause or that it's impossible to have something without a cause, you are literally just making shit up.

Do your own research.

Evolution is a hoax. Why? Because the main premise upon which evolution is based hasn't been found anywhere. There is no factual non-C&E event anywhere that we know of. So-called evolution is programming via cause and effect. The Programmer is God.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Yeah you are just trolling now, no point in still arguing. I already showed you my research, you are the one who never linked a single scientific article or scientist that has proved or even said that everything has a cause. Get out of here. You are just shitposting now.

There is no proof for non-C&E mutations anywhere. All mutations are the effects of one or more causes. They are not really random. Do you have proof of even one non-C&E action, to say nothing of a non-C&E mutation? Show us where if you have one. No random mutation = no evolution. All guesswork, or at best, wrong optimism.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Quantum processes are random, evolution is real.

Blah, blah, blah. Quantum processes are NOT random.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

EDIT: What you need to understand about simple random as defined in the dictionary, is that cause and effect permeates this random. It is only called random, because people are to "weak" to discern the C&E involved. What this shows us is that random is not really random. Rather, random is programmed by C&E just like everything else.

Find us some pure random that is not programmed by C&E. Quantum is simply detailed, complex dictionary random... which is C&E programmed like everything else.

Yes they are, all science shows they are random, no one has ever been able to present a hypothesis that would explain their cause.
'' It is only called random, because people are to "weak" to discern the C&E involved. '' Then you wouldn't mind proving all science wrong and show them what the cause is, right? Oh wait you can't, you are a fraud that makes shit up to fit your delusional views of the world.

Quantum processes are random, there is nothing in science that says something cannot be random and there is nothing in science that says everything is random.

Evolution is real, you are a dishonest liar and you know it.

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Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 07:14:34 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 06:38:20 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 06:27:12 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 06:22:56 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 06:12:30 AM

There is no scientific field that says everything has a cause or that it's impossible to have something without a cause, you are literally just making shit up.

Do your own research.

Evolution is a hoax. Why? Because the main premise upon which evolution is based hasn't been found anywhere. There is no factual non-C&E event anywhere that we know of. So-called evolution is programming via cause and effect. The Programmer is God.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Yeah you are just trolling now, no point in still arguing. I already showed you my research, you are the one who never linked a single scientific article or scientist that has proved or even said that everything has a cause. Get out of here. You are just shitposting now.

There is no proof for non-C&E mutations anywhere. All mutations are the effects of one or more causes. They are not really random. Do you have proof of even one non-C&E action, to say nothing of a non-C&E mutation? Show us where if you have one. No random mutation = no evolution. All guesswork, or at best, wrong optimism.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Quantum processes are random, evolution is real.

Blah, blah, blah. Quantum processes are NOT random.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

EDIT: What you need to understand about simple random as defined in the dictionary, is that cause and effect permeates this random. It is only called random, because people are to "weak" to discern the C&E involved. What this shows us is that random is not really random. Rather, random is programmed by C&E just like everything else.

Find us some pure random that is not programmed by C&E. Quantum is simply detailed, complex dictionary random... which is C&E programmed like everything else.

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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 06:38:20 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 06:27:12 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 06:22:56 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 06:12:30 AM

There is no scientific field that says everything has a cause or that it's impossible to have something without a cause, you are literally just making shit up.

Do your own research.

Evolution is a hoax. Why? Because the main premise upon which evolution is based hasn't been found anywhere. There is no factual non-C&E event anywhere that we know of. So-called evolution is programming via cause and effect. The Programmer is God.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Yeah you are just trolling now, no point in still arguing. I already showed you my research, you are the one who never linked a single scientific article or scientist that has proved or even said that everything has a cause. Get out of here. You are just shitposting now.

There is no proof for non-C&E mutations anywhere. All mutations are the effects of one or more causes. They are not really random. Do you have proof of even one non-C&E action, to say nothing of a non-C&E mutation? Show us where if you have one. No random mutation = no evolution. All guesswork, or at best, wrong optimism.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Quantum processes are random, evolution is real.

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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 06:22:56 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 06:12:30 AM

There is no scientific field that says everything has a cause or that it's impossible to have something without a cause, you are literally just making shit up.

Do your own research.

Evolution is a hoax. Why? Because the main premise upon which evolution is based hasn't been found anywhere. There is no factual non-C&E event anywhere that we know of. So-called evolution is programming via cause and effect. The Programmer is God.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

The Programmer is God. Who programmed your god?..
You say god is random? so now your god is here and programmed all the universe to have all this effect
what caused your god to do all this effect?..

See Badecker you believe in evolution and you admit to it BUT then say oh god this and that Cheesy

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You are even saying it's true ..

A THEORY Wink

If we study a blast i thinks that's is the program ..
Like when we hear music we dance like moving particles all dancing from the BANG and the fact in space the blast will keep the matter moving and spreading in the vast empty space..

A blast in space it keeps spreading and moving just like all life spreading and moving and when we hear music life reacts to the blast like dancing particles ..

So the program is the BANG Wink

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A seed spreads A human spreads universe expanding stars exploding and moving..

So the program is the BANG what's in a bang is the program.
We are always on the move just like a bang in empty space..

The bang dancing particles below in video..
Video for shell shock▶ 1:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS1dO0JC2EE

Type of bang below dancing particles in action below..

Goth Underpass Rave - YouTube
Video for people in a rave▶ 2:51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6203oIRC0I

Movement from a BANG below..

Airplanes landing and taking off - YouTube
Video for aeroplane in flying▶ 5:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhOx1mqJVEk

Movement from the BANG below..

People Running-FUNNY - YouTube
Video for people running▶ 0:19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS9SiSgWNdo

The spread from the BANG..Life spreading below..

How A Seed Grows - YouTube
Video for seeds turning into a plant▶ 1:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czRUxCJwVjw

The spread from the BANG below..

natural vaginal birth - YouTube
Video for human birth video▶ 4:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xkkYmg0yng

All programmed from a BANG..
So is that the answer?..The program is and was the BANG..?

Just a theory because i always found it funny why we move like idiots over music? Cheesy

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And then got me thinking is it the program of the BANG and that's why we react when we hear music..
Like dancing particles from the BANG..?

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Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 06:27:12 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 06:22:56 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 06:12:30 AM

There is no scientific field that says everything has a cause or that it's impossible to have something without a cause, you are literally just making shit up.

Do your own research.

Evolution is a hoax. Why? Because the main premise upon which evolution is based hasn't been found anywhere. There is no factual non-C&E event anywhere that we know of. So-called evolution is programming via cause and effect. The Programmer is God.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Yeah you are just trolling now, no point in still arguing. I already showed you my research, you are the one who never linked a single scientific article or scientist that has proved or even said that everything has a cause. Get out of here. You are just shitposting now.

There is no proof for non-C&E mutations anywhere. All mutations are the effects of one or more causes. They are not really random. Do you have proof of even one non-C&E action, to say nothing of a non-C&E mutation? Show us where if you have one. No random mutation = no evolution. All guesswork, or at best, wrong optimism.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Astargath

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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 06:22:56 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 06:12:30 AM

There is no scientific field that says everything has a cause or that it's impossible to have something without a cause, you are literally just making shit up.

Do your own research.

Evolution is a hoax. Why? Because the main premise upon which evolution is based hasn't been found anywhere. There is no factual non-C&E event anywhere that we know of. So-called evolution is programming via cause and effect. The Programmer is God.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Yeah you are just trolling now, no point in still arguing. I already showed you my research, you are the one who never linked a single scientific article or scientist that has proved or even said that everything has a cause. Get out of here. You are just shitposting now.

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Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 06:12:30 AM

There is no scientific field that says everything has a cause or that it's impossible to have something without a cause, you are literally just making shit up.

Do your own research.

Evolution is a hoax. Why? Because the main premise upon which evolution is based hasn't been found anywhere. There is no factual non-C&E event anywhere that we know of. So-called evolution is programming via cause and effect. The Programmer is God.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

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Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 05:43:40 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 06, 2018, 10:07:19 PM

Quote from: Astargath on January 06, 2018, 07:41:17 PM

''Science says that there is nothing without a cause'' Keep claiming bullshit, show me where science says that everything has a cause.

Countless numbers of known C&E actions. Zero known non-C&E actions. Non-scientific odds might suggest that there is still a possibility of at least one non-C&E action somewhere. But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them. Research scientific understanding of probability.

Quote from: Astargath on January 06, 2018, 07:41:17 PM

''But we have essentially countless numbers of C&E actions without finding any non C&E action.'' Broken record, quantum processes are believed to be random unless you can prove them otherwise.

Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing. Just because somebody believes that the satellite around the 3rd planet of a certain star called "Sol" is made of green cheese, doesn't make it so. Are you trying to turn this into a religious topic?

Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically, just because of the way that science views probability.

Go find some non-C&E action and prove it to be such.

Cool

You are definitely trolling. You still haven't showed what science says that everything has a cause. ''Countless numbers of known C&E actions'' So what? I asked you about the science as you claimed that it says that everything must have a cause. ''Zero known non-C&E actions.'' Like quantum processes you mean?
We have explored 0.00000000000000000000000000001% of the universe, we might know the causes of almost everything here but how can you claim that we know countless of C&E actions when we haven't explored almost anything in the universe? How do you know we wont find something random, which by the way, science, real science does claim right now that we did, quantum processes. Can you prove them wrong? I'm still waiting.

''But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them'' What science? Who is saying that? Odds against something doesn't mean it's impossible plus I already told you we know the cause of maybe 0.00000000000000000000001% of what's in the universe so the odds against something random are not big at all.

''Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing.'' Says the guy who believes that everything has a cause, hypocrite much?

''Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically'' What science considers it impossible? Link it here, what is it, we are all waiting.

PD: did you leak the nudes of Jennifer lawrence, vod?

I thinks they should just say GOD means care..
Rewrite the books saying GOD is care no magic no voodoo just anything about caring Wink

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A song coming on about GOD the new god the new bible..

WE CARE WE CARE

We care for the trees we care for the bees
everybody likes the trees and the bees
because you don't get sore knees Cheesy

YEAH i am stoned Wink

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Quote from: BADecker on January 07, 2018, 06:00:37 AM

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 05:43:40 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 06, 2018, 10:07:19 PM

Quote from: Astargath on January 06, 2018, 07:41:17 PM

''Science says that there is nothing without a cause'' Keep claiming bullshit, show me where science says that everything has a cause.

Countless numbers of known C&E actions. Zero known non-C&E actions. Non-scientific odds might suggest that there is still a possibility of at least one non-C&E action somewhere. But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them. Research scientific understanding of probability.

Quote from: Astargath on January 06, 2018, 07:41:17 PM

''But we have essentially countless numbers of C&E actions without finding any non C&E action.'' Broken record, quantum processes are believed to be random unless you can prove them otherwise.

Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing. Just because somebody believes that the satellite around the 3rd planet of a certain star called "Sol" is made of green cheese, doesn't make it so. Are you trying to turn this into a religious topic?

Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically, just because of the way that science views probability.

Go find some non-C&E action and prove it to be such.

Cool

You are definitely trolling. You still haven't showed what science says that everything has a cause. ''Countless numbers of known C&E actions'' So what? I asked you about the science as you claimed that it says that everything must have a cause. ''Zero known non-C&E actions.'' Like quantum processes you mean?
We have explored 0.00000000000000000000000000001% of the universe, we might know the causes of almost everything here but how can you claim that we know countless of C&E actions when we haven't explored almost anything in the universe? How do you know we wont find something random, which by the way, science, real science does claim right now that we did, quantum processes. Can you prove them wrong? I'm still waiting.

Scientifically speaking, I have told you why science says this. It isn't me. It has to do with probability. The odds are so high against non-C&E that science considers it impossible, by the odds.

You still haven't found even one factual non-C&E event, have you?

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 05:43:40 AM

''But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them'' What science? Who is saying that? Odds against something doesn't mean it's impossible plus I already told you we know the cause of maybe 0.00000000000000000000001% of what's in the universe so the odds against something random are not big at all.

Well, I can't help it if you don't do your research. You don't seem to accept my research. So, do yours.

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 05:43:40 AM

''Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing.'' Says the guy who believes that everything has a cause, hypocrite much?

LOL. Now you are trying to confirm for us that evolution is a religion.

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 05:43:40 AM

''Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically'' What science considers it impossible? Link it here, what is it, we are all waiting.

Do your own research.

Evolution is a hoax. Why? Because the main premise upon which evolution is based hasn't been found anywhere. There is no factual non-C&E event anywhere that we know of. So-called evolution is programming via cause and effect. The Programmer is God.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

What science, show me a scientist that says it's impossible because of the odds against it.

https://www.quora.com/Can-we-prove-that-everything-has-a-cause
https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/22546/does-everything-have-a-cause-reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THbs_DDDN0I

There is no scientific field that says everything has a cause or that it's impossible to have something without a cause, you are literally just making shit up.

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Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 05:43:40 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 06, 2018, 10:07:19 PM

Quote from: Astargath on January 06, 2018, 07:41:17 PM

''Science says that there is nothing without a cause'' Keep claiming bullshit, show me where science says that everything has a cause.

Countless numbers of known C&E actions. Zero known non-C&E actions. Non-scientific odds might suggest that there is still a possibility of at least one non-C&E action somewhere. But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them. Research scientific understanding of probability.

Quote from: Astargath on January 06, 2018, 07:41:17 PM

''But we have essentially countless numbers of C&E actions without finding any non C&E action.'' Broken record, quantum processes are believed to be random unless you can prove them otherwise.

Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing. Just because somebody believes that the satellite around the 3rd planet of a certain star called "Sol" is made of green cheese, doesn't make it so. Are you trying to turn this into a religious topic?

Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically, just because of the way that science views probability.

Go find some non-C&E action and prove it to be such.

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You are definitely trolling. You still haven't showed what science says that everything has a cause. ''Countless numbers of known C&E actions'' So what? I asked you about the science as you claimed that it says that everything must have a cause. ''Zero known non-C&E actions.'' Like quantum processes you mean?
We have explored 0.00000000000000000000000000001% of the universe, we might know the causes of almost everything here but how can you claim that we know countless of C&E actions when we haven't explored almost anything in the universe? How do you know we wont find something random, which by the way, science, real science does claim right now that we did, quantum processes. Can you prove them wrong? I'm still waiting.

Scientifically speaking, I have told you why science says this. It isn't me. It has to do with probability. The odds are so high against non-C&E that science considers it impossible, by the odds.

You still haven't found even one factual non-C&E event, have you?

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 05:43:40 AM

''But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them'' What science? Who is saying that? Odds against something doesn't mean it's impossible plus I already told you we know the cause of maybe 0.00000000000000000000001% of what's in the universe so the odds against something random are not big at all.

Well, I can't help it if you don't do your research. You don't seem to accept my research. So, do yours.

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 05:43:40 AM

''Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing.'' Says the guy who believes that everything has a cause, hypocrite much?

LOL. Now you are trying to confirm for us that evolution is a religion.

Quote from: Astargath on January 07, 2018, 05:43:40 AM

''Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically'' What science considers it impossible? Link it here, what is it, we are all waiting.

Do your own research.

Evolution is a hoax. Why? Because the main premise upon which evolution is based hasn't been found anywhere. There is no factual non-C&E event anywhere that we know of. So-called evolution is programming via cause and effect. The Programmer is God.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: BADecker on January 06, 2018, 10:07:19 PM

Quote from: Astargath on January 06, 2018, 07:41:17 PM

''Science says that there is nothing without a cause'' Keep claiming bullshit, show me where science says that everything has a cause.

Countless numbers of known C&E actions. Zero known non-C&E actions. Non-scientific odds might suggest that there is still a possibility of at least one non-C&E action somewhere. But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them. Research scientific understanding of probability.

Quote from: Astargath on January 06, 2018, 07:41:17 PM

''But we have essentially countless numbers of C&E actions without finding any non C&E action.'' Broken record, quantum processes are believed to be random unless you can prove them otherwise.

Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing. Just because somebody believes that the satellite around the 3rd planet of a certain star called "Sol" is made of green cheese, doesn't make it so. Are you trying to turn this into a religious topic?

Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically, just because of the way that science views probability.

Go find some non-C&E action and prove it to be such.

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You are definitely trolling. You still haven't showed what science says that everything has a cause. ''Countless numbers of known C&E actions'' So what? I asked you about the science as you claimed that it says that everything must have a cause. ''Zero known non-C&E actions.'' Like quantum processes you mean?
We have explored 0.00000000000000000000000000001% of the universe, we might know the causes of almost everything here but how can you claim that we know countless of C&E actions when we haven't explored almost anything in the universe? How do you know we wont find something random, which by the way, science, real science does claim right now that we did, quantum processes. Can you prove them wrong? I'm still waiting.

''But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them'' What science? Who is saying that? Odds against something doesn't mean it's impossible plus I already told you we know the cause of maybe 0.00000000000000000000001% of what's in the universe so the odds against something random are not big at all.

''Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing.'' Says the guy who believes that everything has a cause, hypocrite much?

''Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically'' What science considers it impossible? Link it here, what is it, we are all waiting.

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Quote from: popcorn1 on January 07, 2018, 02:41:14 AM

show me where science says that everything has a cause.. If an effect it must of had a cause for the effect to happen?..

See people are try to explain the whole thing as in how did the UNIVERSE the whole empty universe come to be..

Ok then explain the space in a empty box ..
You open the box and nothing there explain the nothing in the box what caused the nothing..

Explain nothing? well there is nothing to explain..

How do you get outside of infinity.. Outside the nothing?

Step to the right in a open space ..Have you stepped in or out?..

See some say multiverses so if multiverse what holds all the multiverses ..YES the UNIVERSE Wink

UNI ..
You go to university because the word uni means you can study everything ..You study the uni..

But i did think for it to be so then what was the cause and effect..

The randomness what caused the random event to happen?..

This is a very good condensation of Badecker's mentality. He will make up any story, contradict any belief, bend any rule to make his point. Then he'll change his beliefs in a few hours and do it all over it again.

We proved Evolution is not a hoax last year. BD lost the argument when he could not prove magic. What he is doing now is dense and pathetic. Rehashing the same debunked trash over again in a hope new eyes will pull out something he missed.

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Now without him saying god this and god done that i wouldn't of ever known this below to prove evolution.. Wink

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Evolution in Action - California Salamanders - YouTube
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Evolution in Action - California Salamanders. Science For the Win ...

I wouldn't of ever known a test like this only for BADECKER so thanks..
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The proof of EVOLUTION at work before your very eyes..

I know much more about DNA because of badecker ..Many things i have learnt trying to prove him wrong so all good..

So i will be back badecker to give you some more medicine to make you better ..No don't worry it makes me better trying to get you well.. Grin

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Quote from: Astargath on January 06, 2018, 07:41:17 PM

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Well, you see if the first cause of a chain of causes is random, essentially all the causes within the chain are random.

Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own, unpredictable and every time a random number appears. Imagine the dice randomly jumps again but this time falls onto a flower and breaks it. You would consider the cause of the broke plant, the dice however the dice itself has no cause, its random so basically the real cause for the broken plant is random.

The same thing happens with your example. If god ultimately created everything, then all the chain of causes go back to a single point, god, which is a random being, everything he did, he did without a cause.

Evolution is true and you proved it.

Since the first cause in the chain of causes that is our universe, is something (or from something) outside of the universe, we don't really know what it is... random or something else.

"Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own..." This is precisely what evolution is. A big chunk of imagination about all kinds of things. Why? Because there is no proof, and no evidence for it, that doesn't fit creation better. IF evolution happened to be true, we don't know it is, or how it could be true... at least not scientifically speaking. Our evolution theory doesn't match reality.

How do you know anything about God? Do you believe what I have said about Him? Does science show you about Him? Do you just feel that He is the way you describe? LOL.

Evolution is a hoax, and you just proved you understand that it is a hoax.

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I don't understand you. Why do you keep saying ''the way I described him'' You said that god has no cause so I used what you said against you, now you are claiming that I'm the one saying it LOL.

But you DO understand me. And you ARE taking what I said out of context, so it IS what you said, and NOT what I said.

Quote from: Astargath on January 06, 2018, 11:55:58 AM

''outside of the universe, we don't really know what it is... random or something else.'' There aren't too many options badecker, either the cause of the universe has a cause or doesn't and you claimed it doesn't because you said it was god and that god itself has no cause, I can quote you on that if you want. Are you saying now that god has a cause?

Those options you talk about are options within the way the universe works. Something that is outside of the universe is completely different, or it would not be outside of the universe. If it were the same as within the universe, then it would be within the universe.

This means that neither C&E nor random necessarily apply outside of the universe, but they both may apply in some way outside the universe.

Can't you get it through your noggin that outside of the universe is something that we can't even comprehend because it is so different? In fact, it is so extremely different that the word "different" doesn't really describe it.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Well so you admit you don't know what the cause of everything really is. You still claim everything has a cause but you never proved it. Saying ''we haven't found anything without a cause'' doesn't prove that everything has a cause just like saying because we haven't found life on another planet, life on other planets doesn't exist doesn't prove life on other planets doesnt exist.

I already told you quantum processes seem to be random. Maybe they aren't but no one knows, so far no one has even presented a theory nor even a hypothesis for what their cause might be. Can you?

Except for the fact that I have told you over and over that, by the definition, God is the cause of everything. You don't seem to understand that He is a cause from our standpoint, but that the actual "thing" that He is, may or may not be a cause... may or may not have anything to do with C&E... because He is outside of the universe.

Science says that there is nothing without a cause, by the odds, by probability, by quantum. And that is what we are talking about when we talk evolution, isn't it? something without a cause, right? Or are you admitting that evolution is a religion?

We haven't examined other planets enough to tell that life does or doesn't exist there, even though we haven't found any there yet. But we have essentially countless numbers of C&E actions without finding any non C&E action. Your planet thing is an improper analogy.

If you told me something, what does that matter? Scientists tell us that quantum is probability. Such might act like we would expect random to act. But probability by definition shows us that it is not pure random... spontaneous activity/something without a cause.

Since quantum is simply random in the form that we think of random, nobody needs a hypothesis for what random might be. After all, just because we can't track the molecules of air that cause a leaf to sway in the breeze, and their C&E, doesn't mean that it has anything to do with pure random. If you want a hypothesis for pure random, figure one out if you can't find one.

Thank you for helping our readers to see that...

Evolution is a hoax.

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''Science says that there is nothing without a cause'' Keep claiming bullshit, show me where science says that everything has a cause.
''But we have essentially countless numbers of C&E actions without finding any non C&E action.'' Broken record, quantum processes are believed to be random unless you can prove them otherwise.

show me where science says that everything has a cause.. If an effect it must of had a cause for the effect to happen?..

See people are try to explain the whole thing as in how did the UNIVERSE the whole empty universe come to be..

Ok then explain the space in a empty box ..
You open the box and nothing there explain the nothing in the box what caused the nothing..

Explain nothing? well there is nothing to explain..

How do you get outside of infinity.. Outside the nothing?

Step to the right in a open space ..Have you stepped in or out?..

See some say multiverses so if multiverse what holds all the multiverses ..YES the UNIVERSE Wink

UNI ..
You go to university because the word uni means you can study everything ..You study the uni..

But i did think for it to be so then what was the cause and effect..

The randomness what caused the random event to happen?..

But all questions we are still asking today is all good for the brains Wink

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Keeps my brains healthy trying to explain to Badecker the meaning of life..

See everything he says i say i don't believe him so i then start to check things out that i wouldn't of ever known..
So i suppose he has come in really handy our badecker has Wink

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So i will keep trying to make him better because it makes me better Wink

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SO THANKS BADECKER ..Your a crazy star Wink

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Quote from: BADecker on January 06, 2018, 10:07:19 PM

Are you trying to turn this into a religious topic?

This is a religious topic.

How did we get here? There are only two possibilities:

1) Evolution - if you say it's a hoax then that leaves us with
2) Religion/Magic

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