Topic: Evolution is a hoax - page 100. (Read 108165 times)

''Science has proven thousands of C&E actions''. Science however has never proven that everything has a cause as you claim. There is also no scientific law of ''cause and effect'' only the 3rd law of Newton. Most things do have a cause, the mystery is what caused the first event. Theists like you claim that it was their god, and there are thousands of different purported gods. But if there were a god, it too would have to of had a cause. To claim otherwise is a cop out, a plead to ignorance. The most honest answer is simple that we do not know. There are plenty of hypothesis and claims to what started everything. Could be that there is no beginning and there is no end. Big Bang wasn't the start. Maybe a start of this cycle, but not the start of everything. Effectively, there is no cause. Just effect.

Now I'm not claiming that that's what happened, I'm simply explaining to you that there are a lot of possibilities and yours is not necessarily true, in fact I already debunked it in the other thread ''scientific proof of god''

The point is that cause and effect are like a computer. A computer acts exactly the way it does because of programming. The laws of nature make C&E act exactly the way it does just like the computer. Everything is programmed.


I can't help it that you are so religion minded that you have to bring God into it. The fact that we don't know what God is, doesn't have anything to do with the way things act. Things act precisely like they were programmed, according to the laws of physics, acted upon by cause and effect.


That's the point. Claiming anything isn't the scientific way. Science has proven thousands of C&E actions. And they see so many more, that if they wanted to waste the time, they could scientifically prove multitudes more. Yet they haven't scientifically proven even one non-C&E action.



It IS solved. People make decisions based on group firings of synapses in their brain. These firings are based on other firings, and even on the amounts of electrolyte in their bodies. This is all based on what they ate at the last meal, and on a host of other promptings. It is all C&E processed with extremely complex C&E activities. This is common knowledge in the medical.

The further you go trying to prove that evolution exists, the more explanations are brought out, and the more evolution is proven to be an unknown at its core, but doesn't exist according to nature and reality.

Evolution is a hoax.

Everything acts the way it does because it was caused that way, what's your point? Is gravity suddenly not real because it was caused to exist just like it does?

''Everything is set up to act the way it does because whatever started the whole thing going, set the exact way that it was going to act'' We don't know what started everything so we don't know if everything is essentially random or not, you claim it was god but you have no proof. What if it was just another process or maybe a truly random process that started everything?

''How do we know? We can track countless C&E actions, but we have yet to find even one action that, for a fact, is not C&E. '' How would we find that if everytime someone finds something that may be random you just claim it's not?

Humans for example are mostly deterministic, however we might be able to make random decisions. This is a very hard problem and it's not solved. You keep claiming everything has a cause but you never prove it. Even if we don't find something without a cause, it doesn't mean it's not there just because we have a few things that we know the cause of.

I guess there would still have monkeys in the zoos, not every species can evolve

DNA is a hoax because causes LOL

Old BD likes to use the evolution of language.  See he takes words that have an actual meaning understood by normal people and evolves them into different meanings that only make sense in his brain...

BADecker believes in evolution!

That's exactly how evolution works.  The child has half DNA from each of it's parents.

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No two humans are exactly the same. No parents have children that are exactly the same as the parents. This means that there is nothing but change. The only thing that seems changeless is that there seems to be nothing but change.

Now that we know that mutations have causes...

Why does a mutation act the way it does? Why doesn't it act in a slightly different way. Because its causes acted upon it to mutate in just the way that it mutated. If the causes were different, the mutation would be different. But the causes weren't different. So the mutation is just like it is.

Why did the causes act just like they did? Because their causes acted upon them just as they did, causing them to act exactly as they did, so they would produce the exact mutation that they produced.

You can carry this idea all the way back to the beginning. Everything is set up to act the way it does because whatever started the whole thing going, set the exact way that it was going to act, through C&E.

How do we know? We can track countless C&E actions, but we have yet to find even one action that, for a fact, is not C&E.

Quantum is simply complex probability. But the nature of probability, we see there is no fact that comes out of it without something else to substantiate it. Saying "quantum" is like saying "let's guess, but in a complex way."

There is no selection in anything, other than the selection that was set up in the beginning of "everything." There are changes, but there is no evolution in the way that evolutionists suggest. But if you think it exists, show us the proof. Not just a bunch of words that suggest why the proof must exist.

That is what programming is. Everything has been programmed, through C&E. But if it hasn't, we haven't found the proof for non-C&E. Not one piece of proof. Just guesses and suggestions. But we have countless proofs for C&E.

Evolution is a hoax.

Lies, Jennifer lawrence uses cause and effect therefore is a hoax.

Anything that has causes is a hoax for badecker. A dice or a roulette are also hoaxes because they use the word random.

I dont believe in physical evolution, just think that if its true, then why human still havent evolved into something yet?
There is still no change at all.

But your god/magic is an unknown as well, so therefore it must be a big fat hoax.

So where did we come from?  Obviously, as everything around us proves, we evolved.

You are rehashing debunked arguments.  You lost this one last year.  Provide a new argument or move on to proving the world flooded.

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Mutations have causes, however that doesn't mean they are programmed. Humans use the word ''random'' in different ways. When evolutionists explain or say that mutations are random they certainly don't mean that they have no cause just like when we say a dice is random. I don't see how mutations having a cause would make evolution a hoax.

Then again quantum processes seem to have no cause anyways and you said that we should find something without a cause.

Whether quantum processes have a cause or not is irrelevant to the topic. The whole idea of quantum processes is probability. And probability means that it is unknown, that we are guessing or guestimating at it. Look at what Brian Cox says.

Brian Cox explains quantum mechanics in 60 seconds - BBC News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcfQkxwz4Oo


With regard to evolution, there still isn't any proof for any mutation that existed without a cause. If evolution mutations are caused through the laws of physics that operate through cause and effect, then they are programmed, and not evolution at all.

But if evolution mutations DON'T come about through cause and effect... find at least one such mutation proof. If you don't find the proof, you are guessing... because there are countless actions in the universe that are C&E actions. So the norm would be C&E by a mindbogglingly vast majority, not random... not causelessness.

Until you find proof of a mutation without a cause (or many causes), evolution is guesswork. And even if you found one, you would still have to find many. Stating that evolution is true and real is guessing, and a lie.

Evolution is a hoax.



P.S. And thank you, again, for prompting me to show our reading audience the basic reason why evolution is an unknown, and therefore is a big fat hoax.

Before I clicked on this thread right now, I thought, "I hate people who say, "If evolution is true why are monkeys still around.""

It shows an absolute lack of understanding of the concept of evolution.

The worse are when political people who want to lead says such things. They're so against something, yet it's obvious they have not even spent a minute looking into this thing they are so against.

We already found them, quantum processes that you keep insisting they have a cause yet you never explained what the cause is or how you know they have a cause.

Im so tired  of these antiscientific topics. Im so happy Chinese communist party banned religious thinking and unproductive fictive sects.

Evolution is rational. And also, only science brings solutions to problems. Negating scientific theories for the sole purpose of promoting religions or trying to discredit sciencee should dealt with absolute priority.

Wether you believe in evolution or notdosent matter. Either way, you will be part of it.

Here is why evolution is not real. It's simple. There have to be random mutations for evolution to be real. But there are reasons for all mutations; none of them are random. Even if we don't know what the reasons for some of the mutations are, this doesn't mean they don't have reasons for existing. Show proof for a mutation that happened without a reason for it happening. There isn't such a thing.

Since there are reasons for all mutations, they are not random, even though we think that they are. All of the mutations occur according to the laws of physics, being carried out according to cause and effect. Nobody has found a mutation that did not occur because of cause and effect. This means that the mutations were programmed to happen by nature or whatever brought nature into existence... through cause and effect. So, it was planning and programming, not random happenstance.

This makes things that are considered to be evolution, to be simple change rather than evolution in the sense of evolution theory. All the things that you talk about are a nice story. But they are not real without truly random mutations.

Evolution is a hoax... because many scientists understand exactly what I just explained to you.

No evolution is not a hoax,is the development,over the last century,the decade with the development of technology and new knowledge man,very leapt in front of so many new things invented,patented,it's just a huge skachat forward and evolution to help the stronger species survive and the weak perish,it is the process of nature itself

You poor baby.

I posted the proof, but you can't even research it.  And you don't believe me, so all I can do is continue back on topic.

I know. And I sympathize with you. I have essentially destroyed your pet religion... evolution. And so you are going to badmouth me, because it hurts, right?

Come on! Take it like a man, and get back on topic. Find at least one, factual non-cause and effect action. This way you will have a start. If you don't at least have that start, evolution for sure doesn't have its fundamental, basic premise for existing... random mutation.

Evolution is a hoax. See how easy it is to stay on topic? Why can't you do it? Does it hurt so badly?

You poor baby.



EDIT: Thanks for badmouthing me and going off topic all the time. It prompts me to respond. Many others are coming to find out that evolution is a hoax, simply by looking at my responses that you prompted.

Evolution is a hoax.

This top is about proving evolution is a hoax, prove everything has a cause as you said you would. You said plenty of times that science says that yet you never linked a single example of it.

Badecker is a liar.