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October 16, 2018, 03:09:50 PM

Everybody - especially scientists - use C&E in everything they do, around the world. Scientists are among the first to acknowledge this. The only thing that you can come up with that might suggest random, is some radiation idea. But we know that your radiation idea is C&E, because whatever exists that radiates, had a cause to make it exist in the first place. Why? Because it exists. We have no evidence - and absolutely no proof - of anything that exists by spontaneously coming into being.

Since random is scientifically accepted to not exist because of the tremendous odds against it - C&E vastness without any example of random - evolution theory is built around something that scientifically doesn't exist.

IF few or nobody in science understood this about random and C&E, the idea of random would be acceptable, and evolution might not be as much of a hoax as it is. But since this is universally understood by scientists (although they might not think about it when studying the evolution idea and other things), the only response that can exist is that...

Evolution isn't simply a hoax, but evolution is a colossal hoax.

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Prove it, how do you know everything has a cause if we only know the causes of 0.0000000000000000000001% of things in the universe?

I'm not here to answer all kinds of if ideas. I'm only here to show you how...

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Until you can prove that everything has a cause, your C&E argument is meaningless. So evolution is real.

Since you are talking absolutes, evolution and random fail a lot easier than C&E.

Real world speaking, C&E is proven all over the place, but no examples of pure random... or ETE.

Evolution is a hoax, and you are continuing to prove it.

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''Real world speaking, C&E is proven all over the place, but no examples of pure random'' Lies and a hoax, you can't even begin to prove everything has a cause, earth is only 1 planet among trillions, even if you prove all the causes of the things here, you are not even close to everything.

Examples of pure random exist and I already mentioned them like 50 times, virtual particles, radioactive decay.

You are  a hoax and apparently have Alzheimer's too.
legendary
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October 16, 2018, 12:51:42 PM

Everybody - especially scientists - use C&E in everything they do, around the world. Scientists are among the first to acknowledge this. The only thing that you can come up with that might suggest random, is some radiation idea. But we know that your radiation idea is C&E, because whatever exists that radiates, had a cause to make it exist in the first place. Why? Because it exists. We have no evidence - and absolutely no proof - of anything that exists by spontaneously coming into being.

Since random is scientifically accepted to not exist because of the tremendous odds against it - C&E vastness without any example of random - evolution theory is built around something that scientifically doesn't exist.

IF few or nobody in science understood this about random and C&E, the idea of random would be acceptable, and evolution might not be as much of a hoax as it is. But since this is universally understood by scientists (although they might not think about it when studying the evolution idea and other things), the only response that can exist is that...

Evolution isn't simply a hoax, but evolution is a colossal hoax.

Cool

Prove it, how do you know everything has a cause if we only know the causes of 0.0000000000000000000001% of things in the universe?

I'm not here to answer all kinds of if ideas. I'm only here to show you how...

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Until you can prove that everything has a cause, your C&E argument is meaningless. So evolution is real.

Since you are talking absolutes, evolution and random fail a lot easier than C&E.

Real world speaking, C&E is proven all over the place, but no examples of pure random... or ETE.

Evolution is a hoax, and you are continuing to prove it.

Cool
legendary
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October 16, 2018, 12:48:59 PM

If evolution is a hoax does it mean a hoax is a evolution. You guys not logical here cmon.

Hoaxes can evolve, just like lies evolve as they are spread. The topic is evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

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October 16, 2018, 12:32:34 PM

Everybody - especially scientists - use C&E in everything they do, around the world. Scientists are among the first to acknowledge this. The only thing that you can come up with that might suggest random, is some radiation idea. But we know that your radiation idea is C&E, because whatever exists that radiates, had a cause to make it exist in the first place. Why? Because it exists. We have no evidence - and absolutely no proof - of anything that exists by spontaneously coming into being.

Since random is scientifically accepted to not exist because of the tremendous odds against it - C&E vastness without any example of random - evolution theory is built around something that scientifically doesn't exist.

IF few or nobody in science understood this about random and C&E, the idea of random would be acceptable, and evolution might not be as much of a hoax as it is. But since this is universally understood by scientists (although they might not think about it when studying the evolution idea and other things), the only response that can exist is that...

Evolution isn't simply a hoax, but evolution is a colossal hoax.

Cool


Prove it, how do you know everything has a cause if we only know the causes of 0.0000000000000000000001% of things in the universe?

I'm not here to answer all kinds of if ideas. I'm only here to show you how...

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Until you can prove that everything has a cause, your C&E argument is meaningless. So evolution is real.

If evolution is a hoax does it mean a hoax is a evolution. You guys not logical here cmon.
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October 16, 2018, 12:22:30 PM

Everybody - especially scientists - use C&E in everything they do, around the world. Scientists are among the first to acknowledge this. The only thing that you can come up with that might suggest random, is some radiation idea. But we know that your radiation idea is C&E, because whatever exists that radiates, had a cause to make it exist in the first place. Why? Because it exists. We have no evidence - and absolutely no proof - of anything that exists by spontaneously coming into being.

Since random is scientifically accepted to not exist because of the tremendous odds against it - C&E vastness without any example of random - evolution theory is built around something that scientifically doesn't exist.

IF few or nobody in science understood this about random and C&E, the idea of random would be acceptable, and evolution might not be as much of a hoax as it is. But since this is universally understood by scientists (although they might not think about it when studying the evolution idea and other things), the only response that can exist is that...

Evolution isn't simply a hoax, but evolution is a colossal hoax.

Cool

Prove it, how do you know everything has a cause if we only know the causes of 0.0000000000000000000001% of things in the universe?

I'm not here to answer all kinds of if ideas. I'm only here to show you how...

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Until you can prove that everything has a cause, your C&E argument is meaningless. So evolution is real.
legendary
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October 16, 2018, 12:11:18 PM

uuh, nice way to not answer the question.

I answered his religious question for what it was. Being a religious question shows that the reality of evolution exists in the religious talk. But that isn't really what we are here to talk about. We are here to talk about evolution reality, not evolution religion.

Evolution is a hoax.

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legendary
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October 16, 2018, 12:08:19 PM

Everybody - especially scientists - use C&E in everything they do, around the world. Scientists are among the first to acknowledge this. The only thing that you can come up with that might suggest random, is some radiation idea. But we know that your radiation idea is C&E, because whatever exists that radiates, had a cause to make it exist in the first place. Why? Because it exists. We have no evidence - and absolutely no proof - of anything that exists by spontaneously coming into being.

Since random is scientifically accepted to not exist because of the tremendous odds against it - C&E vastness without any example of random - evolution theory is built around something that scientifically doesn't exist.

IF few or nobody in science understood this about random and C&E, the idea of random would be acceptable, and evolution might not be as much of a hoax as it is. But since this is universally understood by scientists (although they might not think about it when studying the evolution idea and other things), the only response that can exist is that...

Evolution isn't simply a hoax, but evolution is a colossal hoax.

Cool

Prove it, how do you know everything has a cause if we only know the causes of 0.0000000000000000000001% of things in the universe?

I'm not here to answer all kinds of if ideas. I'm only here to show you how...

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
legendary
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October 16, 2018, 12:05:15 PM
Science deniers often project their personal misunderstandings of science as flaws in the science itself. 

As I stated in an earlier post, you understanding of what is meant by "random mutation" is flawed.  I listed all of the causes of mutations.  To make it easier for you, think of mutations like a dice.  If I roll a dice, it will land on a random number.  That doesn't mean we don't know what caused the dice to roll, or why the number it lands on is "random", it just means we can't accurately predict the summation of the tiny collisions that influence the dice to land on 3 and not 4 or 4 and not 5. 


Thank you. All you are saying is that we don't know the cause and effect operations of adaptation, like-begets-like, and simple change. Since these 3 things fit change in nature better than evolution theory evolution (ETE), and since there is no real proof for ETE - you would need multitudes of DNA checks of supposed missing links of many plants and animals over thousands of years - evolution is simply a science fiction story.

There might be little wrong with making a story like evolution, but the story could be made even stronger for creation, and possibly something else.

The point is that if people seriously look at the alternate possibility(ies), evolution becomes a not so grandiose of an idea. So, why is evolution promoted as reality? Nobody knows it is reality. Everybody who thinks it is, is denying a whole lot of alternative thinking. Saying fact, when fact is not known, is the thing that makes evolution to be a hoax.

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October 16, 2018, 12:01:24 PM

Don't have to. People who write about evolution prove it all the time, right in their writings. However, there isn't any clarification about random in evolution theory. C&E proves there isn't any random. Evolution theory is the beginning of the hoax.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

C&E proves there isn't any random. Hoax, you keep saying that but never proved it, hoax again.

Everybody - especially scientists - use C&E in everything they do, around the world. Scientists are among the first to acknowledge this. The only thing that you can come up with that might suggest random, is some radiation idea. But we know that your radiation idea is C&E, because whatever exists that radiates, had a cause to make it exist in the first place. Why? Because it exists. We have no evidence - and absolutely no proof - of anything that exists by spontaneously coming into being.

Since random is scientifically accepted to not exist because of the tremendous odds against it - C&E vastness without any example of random - evolution theory is built around something that scientifically doesn't exist.

IF few or nobody in science understood this about random and C&E, the idea of random would be acceptable, and evolution might not be as much of a hoax as it is. But since this is universally understood by scientists (although they might not think about it when studying the evolution idea and other things), the only response that can exist is that...

Evolution isn't simply a hoax, but evolution is a colossal hoax.

Cool

Prove it, how do you know everything has a cause if we only know the causes of 0.0000000000000000000001% of things in the universe?
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October 16, 2018, 12:00:38 PM

What if you replace the word "random" with "shit just happens".  Would that change your conclusions about evolution?


The problems with that are:
1. Science always looks for a reason;
2. "Shit just happens" doesn't match evolution theory.

Now that you know that evolution is a hoax, why are you so against admitting it? I might think that you have something against me personally, but once in a while, in other threads, you even side with me now and again, against something else.

Since my conclusions about evolution are the thing that every scientist knows in his heart when he deeply considers things like cause and effect versus random, what conclusion?

Evolution is a hoax!

Cool

What if you replace the word "random" with "God made it happen this way" and have the physical data to back up your conclusions?

Would that change your mind?

Okay, okay. LOL! I finally get it. You are trying to convert me to your religion. LOL.

Why don't you come right out and say it?... that evolution is a religion and not a hoax?  Cheesy

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

uuh, nice way to not answer the question.
legendary
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October 16, 2018, 11:51:50 AM

What if you replace the word "random" with "shit just happens".  Would that change your conclusions about evolution?


The problems with that are:
1. Science always looks for a reason;
2. "Shit just happens" doesn't match evolution theory.

Now that you know that evolution is a hoax, why are you so against admitting it? I might think that you have something against me personally, but once in a while, in other threads, you even side with me now and again, against something else.

Since my conclusions about evolution are the thing that every scientist knows in his heart when he deeply considers things like cause and effect versus random, what conclusion?

Evolution is a hoax!

Cool

What if you replace the word "random" with "God made it happen this way" and have the physical data to back up your conclusions?

Would that change your mind?

Okay, okay. LOL! I finally get it. You are trying to convert me to your religion. LOL.

Why don't you come right out and say it?... that evolution is a religion and not a hoax?  Cheesy

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
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@cryptocommies
October 16, 2018, 11:49:07 AM
Science deniers often project their personal misunderstandings of science as flaws in the science itself. 

As I stated in an earlier post, you understanding of what is meant by "random mutation" is flawed.  I listed all of the causes of mutations.  To make it easier for you, think of mutations like a dice.  If I roll a dice, it will land on a random number.  That doesn't mean we don't know what caused the dice to roll, or why the number it lands on is "random", it just means we can't accurately predict the summation of the tiny collisions that influence the dice to land on 3 and not 4 or 4 and not 5. 



legendary
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October 16, 2018, 11:25:52 AM

Don't have to. People who write about evolution prove it all the time, right in their writings. However, there isn't any clarification about random in evolution theory. C&E proves there isn't any random. Evolution theory is the beginning of the hoax.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

C&E proves there isn't any random. Hoax, you keep saying that but never proved it, hoax again.

Everybody - especially scientists - use C&E in everything they do, around the world. Scientists are among the first to acknowledge this. The only thing that you can come up with that might suggest random, is some radiation idea. But we know that your radiation idea is C&E, because whatever exists that radiates, had a cause to make it exist in the first place. Why? Because it exists. We have no evidence - and absolutely no proof - of anything that exists by spontaneously coming into being.

Since random is scientifically accepted to not exist because of the tremendous odds against it - C&E vastness without any example of random - evolution theory is built around something that scientifically doesn't exist.

IF few or nobody in science understood this about random and C&E, the idea of random would be acceptable, and evolution might not be as much of a hoax as it is. But since this is universally understood by scientists (although they might not think about it when studying the evolution idea and other things), the only response that can exist is that...

Evolution isn't simply a hoax, but evolution is a colossal hoax.

Cool

What if you replace the word "random" with "shit just happens".  Would that change your conclusions about evolution?


The problems with that are:
1. Science always looks for a reason;
2. "Shit just happens" doesn't match evolution theory.

Now that you know that evolution is a hoax, why are you so against admitting it? I might think that you have something against me personally, but once in a while, in other threads, you even side with me now and again, against something else.

Since my conclusions about evolution are the thing that every scientist knows in his heart when he deeply considers things like cause and effect versus random, what conclusion?

Evolution is a hoax!

Cool
legendary
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October 16, 2018, 10:18:22 AM

Don't have to. People who write about evolution prove it all the time, right in their writings. However, there isn't any clarification about random in evolution theory. C&E proves there isn't any random. Evolution theory is the beginning of the hoax.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

C&E proves there isn't any random. Hoax, you keep saying that but never proved it, hoax again.

Everybody - especially scientists - use C&E in everything they do, around the world. Scientists are among the first to acknowledge this. The only thing that you can come up with that might suggest random, is some radiation idea. But we know that your radiation idea is C&E, because whatever exists that radiates, had a cause to make it exist in the first place. Why? Because it exists. We have no evidence - and absolutely no proof - of anything that exists by spontaneously coming into being.

Since random is scientifically accepted to not exist because of the tremendous odds against it - C&E vastness without any example of random - evolution theory is built around something that scientifically doesn't exist.

IF few or nobody in science understood this about random and C&E, the idea of random would be acceptable, and evolution might not be as much of a hoax as it is. But since this is universally understood by scientists (although they might not think about it when studying the evolution idea and other things), the only response that can exist is that...

Evolution isn't simply a hoax, but evolution is a colossal hoax.

Cool
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October 16, 2018, 05:44:53 AM

The only thing in the link, is references to websites that say that they have proof for evolution, but prove that they don't by trying to prove that they do.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

The only thing you are posting is saying evolution is a hoax but you are not proving it is.

Don't have to. People who write about evolution prove it all the time, right in their writings. However, there isn't any clarification about random in evolution theory. C&E proves there isn't any random. Evolution theory is the beginning of the hoax.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

C&E proves there isn't any random. Hoax, you keep saying that but never proved it, hoax again.
legendary
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October 15, 2018, 09:21:30 PM

The only thing in the link, is references to websites that say that they have proof for evolution, but prove that they don't by trying to prove that they do.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

The only thing you are posting is saying evolution is a hoax but you are not proving it is.

Don't have to. People who write about evolution prove it all the time, right in their writings. However, there isn't any clarification about random in evolution theory. C&E proves there isn't any random. Evolution theory is the beginning of the hoax.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
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October 14, 2018, 09:44:58 AM

The only thing in the link, is references to websites that say that they have proof for evolution, but prove that they don't by trying to prove that they do.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

The only thing you are posting is saying evolution is a hoax but you are not proving it is.
legendary
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October 14, 2018, 09:27:57 AM

The only thing in the link, is references to websites that say that they have proof for evolution, but prove that they don't by trying to prove that they do.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
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@cryptocommies
October 13, 2018, 08:05:39 PM
Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE
Though others says that evolution of people exist from a monkey we can really tell if the fossils found in several studies that they are a monkeys. But maybe they are only monkey like but not as like much as a monkey. Having a similarities to their lifestyle and kind of living is one of the reasons why there's a lot who believe that we came from our ancestors, the monkeys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh0F4FBLJRE

Its really important to clarify the difference between monkeys and apes.  Humans have not evolved from monkeys and your video should clarify that.  Its important to make sure you don't call chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas, orangutans monkeys as they are all apes (as well as humans).  Monkeys are not part of our family but are only part of our order (primates). 

Humans evolved from a common ape ancestor.  All of our ancestors are extinct so the question "If humans evolved from x, then why are x still around" is double invalid. 

Also, the word "proof" is not very scientific.  Evolution is a theory and scientific theories are built around the best evidence.  Theories are falsifiable but no available evidence has ever falsified them.  All evidence supports the theory of evolution as fact so it has withstood the test of time. 

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