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Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 07:42:55 PM

All you are saying is that there isn't proof for anything, because things might be different somewhere else.

Right here, there isn't even one example of pure random or evolution. But there are lots of examples of C&E, adaptation, like-begets-like, and simple change.

You are certainly welcome to head out there to find some proof for random and evolution if you want. Have a nice journey.

Evolution is a hoax, and you are continuing to prove it.

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We have great knowledge how genetic mutations are caused, that they are random, and that they lead to new/different traits being passed on to the next generation. We also know how natural selection works and can see it happening all the time in species with short generation times. These are all things that are so easily replicable that it is being done in most high school level classes and up.

There isn't "proof" of a scientific theory. You need to understand that scientific theories don't need to be something that we have proof of. The entire concept of science is crafting an explanation based on the evidence and all of the evidence supports the theory of evolution.

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The point is that if people seriously look at the alternate possibility(ies), evolution becomes a not so grandiose of an idea. So, why is evolution promoted as reality? Nobody knows it is reality. Everybody who thinks it is, is denying a whole lot of alternative thinking. Saying fact, when fact is not known, is the thing that makes evolution to be a hoax.

Its not that scientists ignore other explanations, its just that no other explanation has evidence that even comes close to the comprehensive mountain of evidence we have suggesting evolution. To "prove" evolution with the standards you are referencing, you would need a time machine, so that is a very unscientific argument.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 12, 2018, 04:02:31 PM

Quote from: Astargath on October 12, 2018, 09:33:48 AM

It was actually Zeus who made everything through cause and effect, he planted the idea of a christian god into badecker's mind.

Well, now that we have C&E settled, we can go on to the faulty use of "random" in evolution theory, which shows that evolution theory is wrong.

Then we still need to find some proof of evolution... somewhere.

And finally, we need to dispel all those "things" that show that evolution is impossible.

If we can do all this, we might have a start at proving evolution as a possible theme of nature.

Then comes the hard part, proving evolution is a main theme of nature.

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I would not worry about the evolution if I were you. You'll never understand it.

Concentrate on tying your shoes.

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Quote from: Astargath on October 16, 2018, 03:09:50 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 12:51:42 PM

Since you are talking absolutes, evolution and random fail a lot easier than C&E.

Real world speaking, C&E is proven all over the place, but no examples of pure random... or ETE.

Evolution is a hoax, and you are continuing to prove it.

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''Real world speaking, C&E is proven all over the place, but no examples of pure random'' Lies and a hoax, you can't even begin to prove everything has a cause, earth is only 1 planet among trillions, even if you prove all the causes of the things here, you are not even close to everything.

Examples of pure random exist and I already mentioned them like 50 times, virtual particles, radioactive decay.

You are a hoax and apparently have Alzheimer's too.

All you are saying is that there isn't proof for anything, because things might be different somewhere else.

Right here, there isn't even one example of pure random or evolution. But there are lots of examples of C&E, adaptation, like-begets-like, and simple change.

You are certainly welcome to head out there to find some proof for random and evolution if you want. Have a nice journey.

Evolution is a hoax, and you are continuing to prove it.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 12:51:42 PM

Quote from: Astargath on October 16, 2018, 12:22:30 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 12:08:19 PM

Quote from: Astargath on October 16, 2018, 12:01:24 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 10:18:22 AM

Everybody - especially scientists - use C&E in everything they do, around the world. Scientists are among the first to acknowledge this. The only thing that you can come up with that might suggest random, is some radiation idea. But we know that your radiation idea is C&E, because whatever exists that radiates, had a cause to make it exist in the first place. Why? Because it exists. We have no evidence - and absolutely no proof - of anything that exists by spontaneously coming into being.

Since random is scientifically accepted to not exist because of the tremendous odds against it - C&E vastness without any example of random - evolution theory is built around something that scientifically doesn't exist.

IF few or nobody in science understood this about random and C&E, the idea of random would be acceptable, and evolution might not be as much of a hoax as it is. But since this is universally understood by scientists (although they might not think about it when studying the evolution idea and other things), the only response that can exist is that...

Evolution isn't simply a hoax, but evolution is a colossal hoax.

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Prove it, how do you know everything has a cause if we only know the causes of 0.0000000000000000000001% of things in the universe?

I'm not here to answer all kinds of if ideas. I'm only here to show you how...

Evolution is a hoax.

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Until you can prove that everything has a cause, your C&E argument is meaningless. So evolution is real.

Since you are talking absolutes, evolution and random fail a lot easier than C&E.

Real world speaking, C&E is proven all over the place, but no examples of pure random... or ETE.

Evolution is a hoax, and you are continuing to prove it.

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''Real world speaking, C&E is proven all over the place, but no examples of pure random'' Lies and a hoax, you can't even begin to prove everything has a cause, earth is only 1 planet among trillions, even if you prove all the causes of the things here, you are not even close to everything.

Examples of pure random exist and I already mentioned them like 50 times, virtual particles, radioactive decay.

You are a hoax and apparently have Alzheimer's too.

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Quote from: Astargath on October 16, 2018, 12:22:30 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 12:08:19 PM

Quote from: Astargath on October 16, 2018, 12:01:24 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 10:18:22 AM

Everybody - especially scientists - use C&E in everything they do, around the world. Scientists are among the first to acknowledge this. The only thing that you can come up with that might suggest random, is some radiation idea. But we know that your radiation idea is C&E, because whatever exists that radiates, had a cause to make it exist in the first place. Why? Because it exists. We have no evidence - and absolutely no proof - of anything that exists by spontaneously coming into being.

Since random is scientifically accepted to not exist because of the tremendous odds against it - C&E vastness without any example of random - evolution theory is built around something that scientifically doesn't exist.

IF few or nobody in science understood this about random and C&E, the idea of random would be acceptable, and evolution might not be as much of a hoax as it is. But since this is universally understood by scientists (although they might not think about it when studying the evolution idea and other things), the only response that can exist is that...

Evolution isn't simply a hoax, but evolution is a colossal hoax.

Cool

Prove it, how do you know everything has a cause if we only know the causes of 0.0000000000000000000001% of things in the universe?

I'm not here to answer all kinds of if ideas. I'm only here to show you how...

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Until you can prove that everything has a cause, your C&E argument is meaningless. So evolution is real.

Since you are talking absolutes, evolution and random fail a lot easier than C&E.

Real world speaking, C&E is proven all over the place, but no examples of pure random... or ETE.

Evolution is a hoax, and you are continuing to prove it.

Cool

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Quote from: io.219832 on October 16, 2018, 12:32:34 PM

If evolution is a hoax does it mean a hoax is a evolution. You guys not logical here cmon.

Hoaxes can evolve, just like lies evolve as they are spread. The topic is evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: Astargath on October 16, 2018, 12:22:30 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 12:08:19 PM

Quote from: Astargath on October 16, 2018, 12:01:24 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 10:18:22 AM

Everybody - especially scientists - use C&E in everything they do, around the world. Scientists are among the first to acknowledge this. The only thing that you can come up with that might suggest random, is some radiation idea. But we know that your radiation idea is C&E, because whatever exists that radiates, had a cause to make it exist in the first place. Why? Because it exists. We have no evidence - and absolutely no proof - of anything that exists by spontaneously coming into being.

Since random is scientifically accepted to not exist because of the tremendous odds against it - C&E vastness without any example of random - evolution theory is built around something that scientifically doesn't exist.

IF few or nobody in science understood this about random and C&E, the idea of random would be acceptable, and evolution might not be as much of a hoax as it is. But since this is universally understood by scientists (although they might not think about it when studying the evolution idea and other things), the only response that can exist is that...

Evolution isn't simply a hoax, but evolution is a colossal hoax.

Cool

Prove it, how do you know everything has a cause if we only know the causes of 0.0000000000000000000001% of things in the universe?

I'm not here to answer all kinds of if ideas. I'm only here to show you how...

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Until you can prove that everything has a cause, your C&E argument is meaningless. So evolution is real.

If evolution is a hoax does it mean a hoax is a evolution. You guys not logical here cmon.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 12:08:19 PM

Quote from: Astargath on October 16, 2018, 12:01:24 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 10:18:22 AM

Everybody - especially scientists - use C&E in everything they do, around the world. Scientists are among the first to acknowledge this. The only thing that you can come up with that might suggest random, is some radiation idea. But we know that your radiation idea is C&E, because whatever exists that radiates, had a cause to make it exist in the first place. Why? Because it exists. We have no evidence - and absolutely no proof - of anything that exists by spontaneously coming into being.

Since random is scientifically accepted to not exist because of the tremendous odds against it - C&E vastness without any example of random - evolution theory is built around something that scientifically doesn't exist.

IF few or nobody in science understood this about random and C&E, the idea of random would be acceptable, and evolution might not be as much of a hoax as it is. But since this is universally understood by scientists (although they might not think about it when studying the evolution idea and other things), the only response that can exist is that...

Evolution isn't simply a hoax, but evolution is a colossal hoax.

Cool

Prove it, how do you know everything has a cause if we only know the causes of 0.0000000000000000000001% of things in the universe?

I'm not here to answer all kinds of if ideas. I'm only here to show you how...

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Until you can prove that everything has a cause, your C&E argument is meaningless. So evolution is real.

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Quote from: Astargath on October 16, 2018, 12:00:38 PM

uuh, nice way to not answer the question.

I answered his religious question for what it was. Being a religious question shows that the reality of evolution exists in the religious talk. But that isn't really what we are here to talk about. We are here to talk about evolution reality, not evolution religion.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: Astargath on October 16, 2018, 12:01:24 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 10:18:22 AM

Everybody - especially scientists - use C&E in everything they do, around the world. Scientists are among the first to acknowledge this. The only thing that you can come up with that might suggest random, is some radiation idea. But we know that your radiation idea is C&E, because whatever exists that radiates, had a cause to make it exist in the first place. Why? Because it exists. We have no evidence - and absolutely no proof - of anything that exists by spontaneously coming into being.

Since random is scientifically accepted to not exist because of the tremendous odds against it - C&E vastness without any example of random - evolution theory is built around something that scientifically doesn't exist.

IF few or nobody in science understood this about random and C&E, the idea of random would be acceptable, and evolution might not be as much of a hoax as it is. But since this is universally understood by scientists (although they might not think about it when studying the evolution idea and other things), the only response that can exist is that...

Evolution isn't simply a hoax, but evolution is a colossal hoax.

Cool

Prove it, how do you know everything has a cause if we only know the causes of 0.0000000000000000000001% of things in the universe?

I'm not here to answer all kinds of if ideas. I'm only here to show you how...

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

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Quote from: coins4commies on October 16, 2018, 11:49:07 AM

Science deniers often project their personal misunderstandings of science as flaws in the science itself.

As I stated in an earlier post, you understanding of what is meant by "random mutation" is flawed. I listed all of the causes of mutations. To make it easier for you, think of mutations like a dice. If I roll a dice, it will land on a random number. That doesn't mean we don't know what caused the dice to roll, or why the number it lands on is "random", it just means we can't accurately predict the summation of the tiny collisions that influence the dice to land on 3 and not 4 or 4 and not 5.

Thank you. All you are saying is that we don't know the cause and effect operations of adaptation, like-begets-like, and simple change. Since these 3 things fit change in nature better than evolution theory evolution (ETE), and since there is no real proof for ETE - you would need multitudes of DNA checks of supposed missing links of many plants and animals over thousands of years - evolution is simply a science fiction story.

There might be little wrong with making a story like evolution, but the story could be made even stronger for creation, and possibly something else.

The point is that if people seriously look at the alternate possibility(ies), evolution becomes a not so grandiose of an idea. So, why is evolution promoted as reality? Nobody knows it is reality. Everybody who thinks it is, is denying a whole lot of alternative thinking. Saying fact, when fact is not known, is the thing that makes evolution to be a hoax.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 10:18:22 AM

Quote from: Astargath on October 16, 2018, 05:44:53 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 15, 2018, 09:21:30 PM

Don't have to. People who write about evolution prove it all the time, right in their writings. However, there isn't any clarification about random in evolution theory. C&E proves there isn't any random. Evolution theory is the beginning of the hoax.

Evolution is a hoax.

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C&E proves there isn't any random. Hoax, you keep saying that but never proved it, hoax again.

Everybody - especially scientists - use C&E in everything they do, around the world. Scientists are among the first to acknowledge this. The only thing that you can come up with that might suggest random, is some radiation idea. But we know that your radiation idea is C&E, because whatever exists that radiates, had a cause to make it exist in the first place. Why? Because it exists. We have no evidence - and absolutely no proof - of anything that exists by spontaneously coming into being.

Since random is scientifically accepted to not exist because of the tremendous odds against it - C&E vastness without any example of random - evolution theory is built around something that scientifically doesn't exist.

IF few or nobody in science understood this about random and C&E, the idea of random would be acceptable, and evolution might not be as much of a hoax as it is. But since this is universally understood by scientists (although they might not think about it when studying the evolution idea and other things), the only response that can exist is that...

Evolution isn't simply a hoax, but evolution is a colossal hoax.

Cool

Prove it, how do you know everything has a cause if we only know the causes of 0.0000000000000000000001% of things in the universe?

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Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 11:51:50 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on October 16, 2018, 11:43:41 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 11:25:52 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on October 16, 2018, 11:15:47 AM

What if you replace the word "random" with "shit just happens". Would that change your conclusions about evolution?

The problems with that are:
1. Science always looks for a reason;
2. "Shit just happens" doesn't match evolution theory.

Now that you know that evolution is a hoax, why are you so against admitting it? I might think that you have something against me personally, but once in a while, in other threads, you even side with me now and again, against something else.

Since my conclusions about evolution are the thing that every scientist knows in his heart when he deeply considers things like cause and effect versus random, what conclusion?

Evolution is a hoax!

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What if you replace the word "random" with "God made it happen this way" and have the physical data to back up your conclusions?

Would that change your mind?

Okay, okay. LOL! I finally get it. You are trying to convert me to your religion. LOL.

Why don't you come right out and say it?... that evolution is a religion and not a hoax? Cheesy

Evolution is a hoax.

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uuh, nice way to not answer the question.

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Quote from: af_newbie on October 16, 2018, 11:43:41 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 11:25:52 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on October 16, 2018, 11:15:47 AM

What if you replace the word "random" with "shit just happens". Would that change your conclusions about evolution?

The problems with that are:
1. Science always looks for a reason;
2. "Shit just happens" doesn't match evolution theory.

Now that you know that evolution is a hoax, why are you so against admitting it? I might think that you have something against me personally, but once in a while, in other threads, you even side with me now and again, against something else.

Since my conclusions about evolution are the thing that every scientist knows in his heart when he deeply considers things like cause and effect versus random, what conclusion?

Evolution is a hoax!

Cool

What if you replace the word "random" with "God made it happen this way" and have the physical data to back up your conclusions?

Would that change your mind?

Okay, okay. LOL! I finally get it. You are trying to convert me to your religion. LOL.

Why don't you come right out and say it?... that evolution is a religion and not a hoax? Cheesy

Evolution is a hoax.

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Science deniers often project their personal misunderstandings of science as flaws in the science itself.

As I stated in an earlier post, you understanding of what is meant by "random mutation" is flawed. I listed all of the causes of mutations. To make it easier for you, think of mutations like a dice. If I roll a dice, it will land on a random number. That doesn't mean we don't know what caused the dice to roll, or why the number it lands on is "random", it just means we can't accurately predict the summation of the tiny collisions that influence the dice to land on 3 and not 4 or 4 and not 5.

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Quote from: af_newbie on October 16, 2018, 11:15:47 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 16, 2018, 10:18:22 AM

Quote from: Astargath on October 16, 2018, 05:44:53 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 15, 2018, 09:21:30 PM

Don't have to. People who write about evolution prove it all the time, right in their writings. However, there isn't any clarification about random in evolution theory. C&E proves there isn't any random. Evolution theory is the beginning of the hoax.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

C&E proves there isn't any random. Hoax, you keep saying that but never proved it, hoax again.

Everybody - especially scientists - use C&E in everything they do, around the world. Scientists are among the first to acknowledge this. The only thing that you can come up with that might suggest random, is some radiation idea. But we know that your radiation idea is C&E, because whatever exists that radiates, had a cause to make it exist in the first place. Why? Because it exists. We have no evidence - and absolutely no proof - of anything that exists by spontaneously coming into being.

Since random is scientifically accepted to not exist because of the tremendous odds against it - C&E vastness without any example of random - evolution theory is built around something that scientifically doesn't exist.

IF few or nobody in science understood this about random and C&E, the idea of random would be acceptable, and evolution might not be as much of a hoax as it is. But since this is universally understood by scientists (although they might not think about it when studying the evolution idea and other things), the only response that can exist is that...

Evolution isn't simply a hoax, but evolution is a colossal hoax.

Cool

What if you replace the word "random" with "shit just happens". Would that change your conclusions about evolution?

The problems with that are:
1. Science always looks for a reason;
2. "Shit just happens" doesn't match evolution theory.

Now that you know that evolution is a hoax, why are you so against admitting it? I might think that you have something against me personally, but once in a while, in other threads, you even side with me now and again, against something else.

Since my conclusions about evolution are the thing that every scientist knows in his heart when he deeply considers things like cause and effect versus random, what conclusion?

Evolution is a hoax!

Cool

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Quote from: Astargath on October 16, 2018, 05:44:53 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 15, 2018, 09:21:30 PM

Don't have to. People who write about evolution prove it all the time, right in their writings. However, there isn't any clarification about random in evolution theory. C&E proves there isn't any random. Evolution theory is the beginning of the hoax.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

C&E proves there isn't any random. Hoax, you keep saying that but never proved it, hoax again.

Everybody - especially scientists - use C&E in everything they do, around the world. Scientists are among the first to acknowledge this. The only thing that you can come up with that might suggest random, is some radiation idea. But we know that your radiation idea is C&E, because whatever exists that radiates, had a cause to make it exist in the first place. Why? Because it exists. We have no evidence - and absolutely no proof - of anything that exists by spontaneously coming into being.

Since random is scientifically accepted to not exist because of the tremendous odds against it - C&E vastness without any example of random - evolution theory is built around something that scientifically doesn't exist.

IF few or nobody in science understood this about random and C&E, the idea of random would be acceptable, and evolution might not be as much of a hoax as it is. But since this is universally understood by scientists (although they might not think about it when studying the evolution idea and other things), the only response that can exist is that...

Evolution isn't simply a hoax, but evolution is a colossal hoax.

Cool

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Quote from: BADecker on October 11, 2018, 12:12:33 PM

Quote from: Moloch on October 11, 2018, 12:04:34 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 11, 2018, 11:00:47 AM

That's right. And Nobel Prize winning, as in this case, is often based on the operations of Political Science.

I feel sad that you cannot even admit you are wrong...

What are you so afraid of happening if you accept evolution?

More than half of Christians believe in evolution instead of creationism, why can't you?

You keep on trying to convert this thread into a religious topic. You talk about a Christian religious consensus. You want me to start believing a religious thing that didn't happen - evolution.

What are you so afraid of that you are unwilling to admit that there is no science that shows that evolution is a fact? I mean, that is what scientists are looking for - facts - even when they are deluded into mistaking theories for facts.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Only religious people deny evolution probably because they feel sorry that their God did not know about it.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 15, 2018, 09:21:30 PM

Quote from: Astargath on October 14, 2018, 09:44:58 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 14, 2018, 09:27:57 AM

Quote from: Moloch on October 13, 2018, 12:52:00 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 13, 2018, 11:11:52 AM

Let's see the proof for evolution.

That's easy

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=proof+for+evolution

The only thing in the link, is references to websites that say that they have proof for evolution, but prove that they don't by trying to prove that they do.

Evolution is a hoax.

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The only thing you are posting is saying evolution is a hoax but you are not proving it is.

Don't have to. People who write about evolution prove it all the time, right in their writings. However, there isn't any clarification about random in evolution theory. C&E proves there isn't any random. Evolution theory is the beginning of the hoax.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

C&E proves there isn't any random. Hoax, you keep saying that but never proved it, hoax again.

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Quote from: Astargath on October 14, 2018, 09:44:58 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 14, 2018, 09:27:57 AM

Quote from: Moloch on October 13, 2018, 12:52:00 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 13, 2018, 11:11:52 AM

Let's see the proof for evolution.

That's easy

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=proof+for+evolution

The only thing in the link, is references to websites that say that they have proof for evolution, but prove that they don't by trying to prove that they do.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

The only thing you are posting is saying evolution is a hoax but you are not proving it is.

Don't have to. People who write about evolution prove it all the time, right in their writings. However, there isn't any clarification about random in evolution theory. C&E proves there isn't any random. Evolution theory is the beginning of the hoax.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

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