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Quote from: BADecker on October 14, 2018, 09:27:57 AM

Quote from: Moloch on October 13, 2018, 12:52:00 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 13, 2018, 11:11:52 AM

Let's see the proof for evolution.

That's easy

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=proof+for+evolution

The only thing in the link, is references to websites that say that they have proof for evolution, but prove that they don't by trying to prove that they do.

Evolution is a hoax.

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The only thing you are posting is saying evolution is a hoax but you are not proving it is.

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Quote from: Moloch on October 13, 2018, 12:52:00 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 13, 2018, 11:11:52 AM

Let's see the proof for evolution.

That's easy

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=proof+for+evolution

The only thing in the link, is references to websites that say that they have proof for evolution, but prove that they don't by trying to prove that they do.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: Astargath on October 11, 2018, 11:01:30 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 11, 2018, 10:35:12 AM

Quote from: Astargath on October 11, 2018, 08:52:33 AM

Actually he completely changes what Cause and Effect is. OF COURSE every effect is going to have a cause, that's the definition, HOWEVER, not everything is an effect, this knucklehead can't understand that.

Yet, you don't have even one example of something that is not an effect, while the whole process of scientific investigation uses C&E as the foundation for its operation... because C&E penetrates everything.

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First of all, as I previously mentioned, cause and effect is NOT a scientific law, it's a philosophical thought.

''David Hume critiqued this. Hume came from a tradition that viewed all knowledge as either a priori (from reason) or a posteriori (from experience). From reason alone, it is possible to conceive of an effect without a cause, Hume argued, although others have questioned this and also argued whether conceiving something means it is possible. Based on experience alone, our notion of cause and effect is just based on habitually observing one thing following another, and there's certainly no element of necessity when we observe cause and effect in the world; Hume's criticism of inductive reasoning implied that even if we observe cause and effect repeatedly, we cannot infer that throughout the universe every effect must necessarily have a cause.''

There are also scientific examples against the statement of ''everything has a cause'' which is again, not scientific. Radioactive decay or Virtual particles are examples of it.

And there is an emergence that people like BADecker will either completely ignore or call it God.

Natural phenomena nevertheless.

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Quote from: gokudera on October 12, 2018, 06:28:38 PM

Quote from: ridery99 on May 14, 2017, 09:38:55 AM

Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

Though others says that evolution of people exist from a monkey we can really tell if the fossils found in several studies that they are a monkeys. But maybe they are only monkey like but not as like much as a monkey. Having a similarities to their lifestyle and kind of living is one of the reasons why there's a lot who believe that we came from our ancestors, the monkeys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh0F4FBLJRE

Its really important to clarify the difference between monkeys and apes. Humans have not evolved from monkeys and your video should clarify that. Its important to make sure you don't call chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas, orangutans monkeys as they are all apes (as well as humans). Monkeys are not part of our family but are only part of our order (primates).

Humans evolved from a common ape ancestor. All of our ancestors are extinct so the question "If humans evolved from x, then why are x still around" is double invalid.

Also, the word "proof" is not very scientific. Evolution is a theory and scientific theories are built around the best evidence. Theories are falsifiable but no available evidence has ever falsified them. All evidence supports the theory of evolution as fact so it has withstood the test of time.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 13, 2018, 11:11:52 AM

Let's see the proof for evolution.

That's easy

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=proof+for+evolution

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Quote from: Astargath on October 12, 2018, 05:34:35 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 12, 2018, 04:02:31 PM

Quote from: Astargath on October 12, 2018, 09:33:48 AM

It was actually Zeus who made everything through cause and effect, he planted the idea of a christian god into badecker's mind.

Well, now that we have C&E settled, we can go on to the faulty use of "random" in evolution theory, which shows that evolution theory is wrong.

Then we still need to find some proof of evolution... somewhere.

And finally, we need to dispel all those "things" that show that evolution is impossible.

If we can do all this, we might have a start at proving evolution as a possible theme of nature.

Then comes the hard part, proving evolution is a main theme of nature.

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Actually Zeus left it this way, he caused the universe and then left, he doesn't act anymore, therefore evolution is real.

That's exactly the thing we are talking about. Let's see the proof for evolution. We have countless examples of proof for adaptation, like-begets-like, and simple change. Show us the proof that even one of them is evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: gokudera on October 12, 2018, 06:28:38 PM

Quote from: ridery99 on May 14, 2017, 09:38:55 AM

Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

Though others says that evolution of people exist from a monkey we can really tell if the fossils found in several studies that they are a monkeys. But maybe they are only monkey like but not as like much as a monkey. Having a similarities to their lifestyle and kind of living is one of the reasons why there's a lot who believe that we came from our ancestors, the monkeys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh0F4FBLJRE

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Quote from: ridery99 on May 14, 2017, 09:38:55 AM

Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

Though others says that evolution of people exist from a monkey we can really tell if the fossils found in several studies that they are a monkeys. But maybe they are only monkey like but not as like much as a monkey. Having a similarities to their lifestyle and kind of living is one of the reasons why there's a lot who believe that we came from our ancestors, the monkeys

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Quote from: BADecker on October 12, 2018, 04:02:31 PM

Quote from: Astargath on October 12, 2018, 09:33:48 AM

It was actually Zeus who made everything through cause and effect, he planted the idea of a christian god into badecker's mind.

Well, now that we have C&E settled, we can go on to the faulty use of "random" in evolution theory, which shows that evolution theory is wrong.

Then we still need to find some proof of evolution... somewhere.

And finally, we need to dispel all those "things" that show that evolution is impossible.

If we can do all this, we might have a start at proving evolution as a possible theme of nature.

Then comes the hard part, proving evolution is a main theme of nature.

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Actually Zeus left it this way, he caused the universe and then left, he doesn't act anymore, therefore evolution is real.

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Quote from: af_newbie on October 12, 2018, 04:09:28 PM

Quote from: BADecker on October 12, 2018, 04:02:31 PM

Quote from: Astargath on October 12, 2018, 09:33:48 AM

It was actually Zeus who made everything through cause and effect, he planted the idea of a christian god into badecker's mind.

Well, now that we have C&E settled, we can go on to the faulty use of "random" in evolution theory, which shows that evolution theory is wrong.

Then we still need to find some proof of evolution... somewhere.

And finally, we need to dispel all those "things" that show that evolution is impossible.

If we can do all this, we might have a start at proving evolution as a possible theme of nature.

Then comes the hard part, proving evolution is a main theme of nature.

Cool

I would not worry about the evolution if I were you. You'll never understand it.

Concentrate on tying your shoes.

God used C&E to teach me how to tie my shoes. But I can't worry about evolution, because there isn't any evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: Astargath on October 12, 2018, 09:33:48 AM

It was actually Zeus who made everything through cause and effect, he planted the idea of a christian god into badecker's mind.

Well, now that we have C&E settled, we can go on to the faulty use of "random" in evolution theory, which shows that evolution theory is wrong.

Then we still need to find some proof of evolution... somewhere.

And finally, we need to dispel all those "things" that show that evolution is impossible.

If we can do all this, we might have a start at proving evolution as a possible theme of nature.

Then comes the hard part, proving evolution is a main theme of nature.

Cool

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Quote from: Astargath on October 12, 2018, 09:33:48 AM

Quote from: Moloch on October 12, 2018, 09:13:13 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 12, 2018, 09:04:12 AM

Quote from: Moloch on October 12, 2018, 08:58:45 AM

Quote from: Astargath on October 12, 2018, 08:29:34 AM

XDDD and you just showed your IQ again. FOR EVERY ACTION , means that if there is a ACTION, not that everything has a cause, how fucking dumb can a human being be?

Honestly, he basically proves evolution to be true by his own argument...

He says everything is based on cause and effect (ergo, god does not do anything after the big bang)

This is exactly like evolution... there is no difference... everything is based on the initial conditions and evolved naturally without interference from any supernatural intervention

The only thing he seems to have a problem with is the word random... which, as anyone knows, doesn't really exist... there is no such thing as a random number... we (scientists) only call it random because it is not possible to calculate with any degree of certainty (literally impossible due to the uncertainty principle)... anything impossible to calculate is considered random, because that's the definition of random...

God made something like evolution, He did it through cause and effect

Thanks for proving my point

Also, If EVERY effect has a cause... who caused god?

Welcome to the "Problem of the creator of God"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_the_creator_of_God

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The problem of the creator of God is the controversy regarding the hypothetical cause responsible for the existence of God, presuming God exists. A common challenge to theistic propositions of a creator deity as a necessary first-cause explanation for the universe is the question: "Who created God?". It contests the proposition that the universe cannot exist without a creator by asserting that the creator of the universe must have the same restrictions. This, in turn, may lead to a problem of infinite regress wherein each newly presumed creator of a creator is itself presumed to have its own creator.

It was actually Zeus who made everything through cause and effect, he planted the idea of a christian god into badecker's mind.

He's like an open book... I see how he replies to every post I make within 5-10 minutes... except for ones like this... he won't respond to this one at all because he knows he cant, and doesn't want to continue this conversation any further because he is scared of what he might find

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Quote from: Moloch on October 12, 2018, 09:13:13 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 12, 2018, 09:04:12 AM

Quote from: Moloch on October 12, 2018, 08:58:45 AM

Quote from: Astargath on October 12, 2018, 08:29:34 AM

XDDD and you just showed your IQ again. FOR EVERY ACTION , means that if there is a ACTION, not that everything has a cause, how fucking dumb can a human being be?

Honestly, he basically proves evolution to be true by his own argument...

He says everything is based on cause and effect (ergo, god does not do anything after the big bang)

This is exactly like evolution... there is no difference... everything is based on the initial conditions and evolved naturally without interference from any supernatural intervention

The only thing he seems to have a problem with is the word random... which, as anyone knows, doesn't really exist... there is no such thing as a random number... we (scientists) only call it random because it is not possible to calculate with any degree of certainty (literally impossible due to the uncertainty principle)... anything impossible to calculate is considered random, because that's the definition of random...

God made something like evolution, He did it through cause and effect

Thanks for proving my point

Also, If EVERY effect has a cause... who caused god?

Welcome to the "Problem of the creator of God"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_the_creator_of_God

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The problem of the creator of God is the controversy regarding the hypothetical cause responsible for the existence of God, presuming God exists. A common challenge to theistic propositions of a creator deity as a necessary first-cause explanation for the universe is the question: "Who created God?". It contests the proposition that the universe cannot exist without a creator by asserting that the creator of the universe must have the same restrictions. This, in turn, may lead to a problem of infinite regress wherein each newly presumed creator of a creator is itself presumed to have its own creator.

It was actually Zeus who made everything through cause and effect, he planted the idea of a christian god into badecker's mind.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 12, 2018, 09:04:12 AM

Quote from: Moloch on October 12, 2018, 08:58:45 AM

Quote from: Astargath on October 12, 2018, 08:29:34 AM

XDDD and you just showed your IQ again. FOR EVERY ACTION , means that if there is a ACTION, not that everything has a cause, how fucking dumb can a human being be?

Honestly, he basically proves evolution to be true by his own argument...

He says everything is based on cause and effect (ergo, god does not do anything after the big bang)

This is exactly like evolution... there is no difference... everything is based on the initial conditions and evolved naturally without interference from any supernatural intervention

The only thing he seems to have a problem with is the word random... which, as anyone knows, doesn't really exist... there is no such thing as a random number... we (scientists) only call it random because it is not possible to calculate with any degree of certainty (literally impossible due to the uncertainty principle)... anything impossible to calculate is considered random, because that's the definition of random...

God made something like evolution, He did it through cause and effect

Thanks for proving my point

Also, If EVERY effect has a cause... who caused god?

Welcome to the "Problem of the creator of God"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_the_creator_of_God

Quote

The problem of the creator of God is the controversy regarding the hypothetical cause responsible for the existence of God, presuming God exists. A common challenge to theistic propositions of a creator deity as a necessary first-cause explanation for the universe is the question: "Who created God?". It contests the proposition that the universe cannot exist without a creator by asserting that the creator of the universe must have the same restrictions. This, in turn, may lead to a problem of infinite regress wherein each newly presumed creator of a creator is itself presumed to have its own creator.

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Quote from: Moloch on October 12, 2018, 08:58:45 AM

Quote from: Astargath on October 12, 2018, 08:29:34 AM

XDDD and you just showed your IQ again. FOR EVERY ACTION , means that if there is a ACTION, not that everything has a cause, how fucking dumb can a human being be?

Honestly, he basically proves evolution to be true by his own argument...

He says everything is based on cause and effect (ergo, god does not do anything after the big bang)

This is exactly like evolution... there is no difference... everything is based on the initial conditions and evolved naturally without interference from any supernatural intervention

The only thing he seems to have a problem with is the word random... which, as anyone knows, doesn't really exist... there is no such thing as a random number... we (scientists) only call it random because it is not possible to calculate with any degree of certainty (literally impossible due to the uncertainty principle)... anything impossible to calculate is considered random, because that's the definition of random...

Actually, this proves the greatness of God. Even if God made something like evolution, He did it through cause and effect. God's C&E works with with countless numbers of subatomic particles and energies, all according to the laws of physics, to produce things like beauty and aesthetics and intelligence. But mankind can only control C&E reactions over a few levels on a pool table.

Since it is all C&E, evolution theory doesn't fit in the area of random.

Evolution is a complete hoax.

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Quote from: Astargath on October 12, 2018, 08:29:34 AM

XDDD and you just showed your IQ again. FOR EVERY ACTION , means that if there is a ACTION, not that everything has a cause, how fucking dumb can a human being be?

He basically proves evolution to be true by his own argument...

He says everything is based on cause and effect (ergo, god does not do anything after the big bang)

This is exactly like evolution... there is no difference... everything is based on the initial conditions and evolved naturally without interference from any supernatural intervention

The only thing he seems to have a problem with is the word random... which, as anyone knows, doesn't really exist... there is no such thing as a random number... we (scientists) only call it random because it is not possible to calculate with any degree of certainty (literally impossible due to the uncertainty principle)... anything impossible to calculate is considered random, because that's the definition of random...

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Quote from: Astargath on October 12, 2018, 08:29:34 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 12, 2018, 08:14:34 AM

Quote from: Astargath on October 12, 2018, 07:23:51 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 11, 2018, 02:05:25 PM

Quote from: Astargath on October 11, 2018, 01:48:25 PM

''Newton's 3rd Law takes C&E into account.'' No it doesn't. Period. Newton's 3rd law never said that something is always caused by something.

Okay. Let me show you where your mistake is. It's simple, but it's tiny...

Astargath's version of Newton's 3rd Law: "To every action there is an equal and opposite action."

Now, if anyone would compare Astargath's version to the real, Newton version, he will be able to see that Newton's 3rd Law includes cause and effect, possibly among other things.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion#Newton's_3rd_Law
https://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/Lesson-4/Newton-s-Third-Law
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/forces-newtons-laws/newtons-laws-of-motion/a/what-is-newtons-third-law

Where does it say that everything has a cause? Point it out to me.

"To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."

"... every ..."

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XDDD and you just showed your IQ again. FOR EVERY ACTION , means that if there is a ACTION, not that everything has a cause, how fucking dumb can a human being be?

LOL! Action >>> reaction... cause >>> effect. Did you ever think of going to school? Cheesy

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Quote from: BADecker on October 06, 2018, 08:07:52 PM

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Quote from: BADecker on October 06, 2018, 07:32:59 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on October 06, 2018, 06:01:43 PM

So these people are a hoax as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GlNQzjii1c

or a gift from God?

What? You didn't watch the video? It said that these people have genetic problem, probably from in-breeding.

The fact that they are alive is a gift of God. They don't have the opportunity that you do to believe the Bible and be saved. This means that if they aren't saved, their punishment in Hell will be less than yours.

No proof for evolution in the video or your post. The fact that you would try to use some genetically "crippled" people from Turkey to prove evolution, shows how frantic you are to find some little proof for your evolution religion. Doing it this way, only serves to strengthen the fact that...

Evolution is a hoax.

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So you do agree that the genes control whether animals walk on all four?

If I agree or not, what does that matter? The video said it was genetic. But, the video also treated evolution as though it exists, when there has been no proof for evolution. So, the video has some true things and some false things.

Evolution is still a hoax.

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I was just trying to connect the dots for you. Some animals (with genes) walked on four, then animals (with different genes) walked on two.

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Quote from: BADecker on October 12, 2018, 08:14:34 AM

Quote from: Astargath on October 12, 2018, 07:23:51 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 11, 2018, 02:05:25 PM

Quote from: Astargath on October 11, 2018, 01:48:25 PM

''Newton's 3rd Law takes C&E into account.'' No it doesn't. Period. Newton's 3rd law never said that something is always caused by something.

Okay. Let me show you where your mistake is. It's simple, but it's tiny...

Astargath's version of Newton's 3rd Law: "To every action there is an equal and opposite action."

Now, if anyone would compare Astargath's version to the real, Newton version, he will be able to see that Newton's 3rd Law includes cause and effect, possibly among other things.

Cool

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion#Newton's_3rd_Law
https://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/Lesson-4/Newton-s-Third-Law
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/forces-newtons-laws/newtons-laws-of-motion/a/what-is-newtons-third-law

Where does it say that everything has a cause? Point it out to me.

"To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."

"... every ..."

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XDDD and you just showed your IQ again. FOR EVERY ACTION , means that if there is a ACTION, not that everything has a cause, how fucking dumb can a human being be?

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Quote from: Astargath on October 12, 2018, 07:23:51 AM

Quote from: BADecker on October 11, 2018, 02:05:25 PM

Quote from: Astargath on October 11, 2018, 01:48:25 PM

''Newton's 3rd Law takes C&E into account.'' No it doesn't. Period. Newton's 3rd law never said that something is always caused by something.

Okay. Let me show you where your mistake is. It's simple, but it's tiny...

Astargath's version of Newton's 3rd Law: "To every action there is an equal and opposite action."

Now, if anyone would compare Astargath's version to the real, Newton version, he will be able to see that Newton's 3rd Law includes cause and effect, possibly among other things.

Cool

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion#Newton's_3rd_Law
https://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/Lesson-4/Newton-s-Third-Law
https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/forces-newtons-laws/newtons-laws-of-motion/a/what-is-newtons-third-law

Where does it say that everything has a cause? Point it out to me.

"To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."

"... every ..."

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