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legendary
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September 03, 2018, 10:39:30 AM
The problem with this is, evolutionists can't find any missing links that fit evolution theory, so they have made up a 40+ year-old link story, that they have repeated so long that they think that their links match evolution theory.

No, the problem is you're too ignorant and indoctrinated to understand basic FACTS of reality.


The basic fact of reality regarding evolution is, the facts of existence fit non-evolution type of adaptation and like-begets-like far better than they fit evolution. Therefore, there is no example of evolution that is factually known to be such.

In addition, there are loads of reasons why evolution is absolutely impossible. Google "evolution is impossible" to see them. The supposed rebuttals against them are incomplete, or circular references, or fail in some other way, and are therefore not rebuttals.

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September 03, 2018, 09:43:04 AM
in my opinion evolution is a hoax, because I disagree with the theory of evolution, like the example of land animals evolving into sea animals, that makes no sense, God created animals according to their place, so it is impossible for animals that live land to become animals that live on the sea
legendary
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September 03, 2018, 07:08:14 AM
The problem with this is, evolutionists can't find any missing links that fit evolution theory, so they have made up a 40+ year-old link story, that they have repeated so long that they think that their links match evolution theory.

No, the problem is you're too ignorant and indoctrinated to understand basic FACTS of reality.
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September 02, 2018, 10:34:18 PM
P.S. Almost forgot # 4:
4. Check into and start taking MMS (chlorine dioxide) - http://mmsnews.is/ - every day to help with your "homosexually" induced, brain-retarding diseases.
I figured it was only a matter of time before BADlogic switched to straight-up death threats, though I suppose it's equally likely he's too stupid to know that consuming poison will kill you. Roll Eyes
legendary
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September 02, 2018, 05:53:41 PM


You can actually fill in the missing letters at this point it's not 1980 anymore.  There are no "missing links" anymore, I mean if you read articles from the fucking 80's you might see missing links.  We have long since found the missing links, only retards believe in creationism.

What this means is not that we have found every missing link but that we have found enough of them to understand and prove how evolution happened.

I wish creationist wouldn't argue against 40+ year old information... makes them look even dumber, like a flat earther LOL.

The problem with this is, evolutionists can't find any missing links that fit evolution theory, so they have made up a 40+ year-old link story, that they have repeated so long that they think that their links match evolution theory.

Why don't their links match evolution theory? Two reasons (at least).

1. There is no proof that the links were not individual creations of individual species or kinds. All the talk that the supposed links are in similar lines, is not known, partially because there is not any confirming DNA in the fossils. So, we don't know that the supposed links really are links.

This brings us to ...

2. In order to prove evolution through the missing link idea, you would have to find a series of creatures that were in the same line, with the DNA to show that they were really in the same line. And, they would have to be link to link to link, etc., without additional missing links in between. Why DNA? Because there can be many similar-looking animals that have drastically different DNA. So, you at least need the DNA. If such a linked series of creatures had been found, it would have made news. Since such a series hasn't been found, we don't know that evolution is real.

Evolution is a hoax.

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EDIT: And this doesn't even begin to take into account the vast cause and effect point, which shows that everything was planned.
legendary
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September 02, 2018, 04:22:26 PM


You can actually fill in the missing letters at this point it's not 1980 anymore.  There are no "missing links" anymore, I mean if you read articles from the fucking 80's you might see missing links.  We have long since found the missing links, only retards believe in creationism.

What this means is not that we have found every missing link but that we have found enough of them to understand and prove how evolution happened.

I wish creationist wouldn't argue against 40+ year old information... makes them look even dumber, like a flat earther LOL.
legendary
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September 02, 2018, 10:13:14 AM

''The fact that C&E matches programming'' You wot m8? You have a lot of scientific articles to write dude, you will get multiple nobel prizes. You know better than most scientific theories at this point, truly amazing.

Well, thank you for honoring me, but personally I don't believe you have enough information to tell that I know better than most scientific theories... at any point.

I wouldn't accept any Nobel prizes.

The number of scientific articles I have to write will probably increase, since I don't intend writing any. But that could always change.

Thank you for all the friendly chitchat from the past in this thread, now that you have finally agreed that...

Evolution is a hoax.

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You have debunked evolution theory, quantum theory, the big bang theory, re invented entropy and applied it differently. What a genius!!!!!!

Well, I am honored, again, that you would think that I am a genius. But you are mistaken about some of the other things you said.

I don't debunk scientific theories. The closest I might come to that is to show how some of the theories debunk themselves.

As far as reinventing entropy, that invention was the invention of the original people working in concert with the devil. My personal wish is that entropy had never happened in the first place. But, because of the complexity of the universe, it would be a whole lot easier to simply start over with a new one, than try to correct this one.

So, at least we can see why you might think I am a genius. You simply haven't got what it takes to think clearly about things like entropy and science theory. You might be able to correct that, however. Here are the things you should do to start strengthening your thinking ability:
1. Check out the Internet for brain nutrition, and start on a regime of fresh fruits and vegetables, along with special brain nutrients;
2. Look for brain-strengthening puzzles and exercises, both at your public library, and on the Internet;
3. Listen to the Bible on CD for at least 1 hour every day; listen to the New Testament, through, 4 times for every time you listen through the Old Testament; never stop for at least 20 years; after 20 years you can slow down a little.

You are certainly invited to request more info about all this if you need informational help. Go ahead and PM me about it.

If you are still alive after all that, you will easily understand how...

Evolution is a hoax.

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P.S. Almost forgot # 4:
4. Check into and start taking MMS (chlorine dioxide) - http://mmsnews.is/ - every day to help with your "homosexually" induced, brain-retarding diseases.
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September 02, 2018, 08:14:59 AM
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September 02, 2018, 08:13:56 AM
I was thinking about the goldilocks zone ..
Why does it have to be a planet same size plus same size sun plus the right sort of distance for it to be able to have life on it?..
Why not a huge sun    but a different size planet that is further back BUT because the sun is huge the heat and light might be good enough to hold life ..

We are looking at the goldilocks zone but I thinks many many planets can have life without being same as earths distance from the sun ..

You misunderstand the goldilocks zone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstellar_habitable_zone
"In astronomy and astrobiology, the circumstellar habitable zone (CHZ), or simply the habitable zone, is the range of orbits around a star within which a planetary surface can support liquid water given sufficient atmospheric pressure"

Since all life on Earth requires liquid water, we are assuming we won't find life without liquid water on a planet.  The goldilocks zone is simply the area where planets could have liquid water on their surface

The distance for a goldilocks zone depends on the size of the star... a bigger star will have a larger zone which could have liquid water on a planet

The goldilocks zone has nothing to do with the size of a planet, and it certainly doesn't mean the planet is exactly the same distance from its star as the Earth is from the sun.

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September 02, 2018, 04:39:13 AM

''The fact that C&E matches programming'' You wot m8? You have a lot of scientific articles to write dude, you will get multiple nobel prizes. You know better than most scientific theories at this point, truly amazing.

Well, thank you for honoring me, but personally I don't believe you have enough information to tell that I know better than most scientific theories... at any point.

I wouldn't accept any Nobel prizes.

The number of scientific articles I have to write will probably increase, since I don't intend writing any. But that could always change.

Thank you for all the friendly chitchat from the past in this thread, now that you have finally agreed that...

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

You have debunked evolution theory, quantum theory, the big bang theory, re invented entropy and applied it differently. What a genius!!!!!!
legendary
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September 01, 2018, 07:17:39 PM
I was thinking about the goldilocks zone ..
Why does it have to be a planet same size plus same size sun plus the right sort of distance for it to be able to have life on it?..
Why not a huge sun    but a different size planet that is further back BUT because the sun is huge the heat and light might be good enough to hold life ..

We are looking at the goldilocks zone but I thinks many many planets can have life without being same as earths distance from the sun ..
Or is it the only way we can tell a planet COULD hold life because the way it passes the sun  Undecided..

See i was thinking about randomness then i started thinking because of randomness we cannot be the only earth like planet in the vast universe ..
Are we a random earth like planet ?  I don't think so   i thinks 99.9% sure more earth like planets for a fact..

I bet we have multi big bangs and earth is one of many .. Randomness in evolution will most likely make life again and again ..



legendary
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September 01, 2018, 07:02:01 PM

''The fact that C&E matches programming'' You wot m8? You have a lot of scientific articles to write dude, you will get multiple nobel prizes. You know better than most scientific theories at this point, truly amazing.

Well, thank you for honoring me, but personally I don't believe you have enough information to tell that I know better than most scientific theories... at any point.

I wouldn't accept any Nobel prizes.

The number of scientific articles I have to write will probably increase, since I don't intend writing any. But that could always change.

Thank you for all the friendly chitchat from the past in this thread, now that you have finally agreed that...

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
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September 01, 2018, 06:34:03 PM

''C&E is a fact'' So what? A cause can still produce randomness, what's the cause of rolling a dice? A human hand, now that you know the cause, do you know the outcome?

What does your knowing or not knowing have to do with what exists? The forces on the rolling of the dice through the hand, and from outside sources like gravity, and possibly the flow of the air, are complex beyond imagination. Knowing them or not knowing them doesn't eliminate their existence.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Do you know what the first cause is? Did you prove it's someone programming stuff? How do you know it's not a non sentient event? If it's not a god or someone that has consciousness then nothing is programmed because there is no programmer.  

The fact that C&E matches programming, shows us that there is a programmer, even if we have no idea who or what it is. I mean, if you find an old computer in the dump, and you take it home and fire it up, this doesn't mean that you know who the programmer is/was. But the programs might still work perfectly, showing that there was a programmer.

That's exactly why evolution theory evolution is not real. The theory doesn't take into consideration any programmer, but C&E in everything shows that there is a programmer.

Evolution is a hoax.

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''The fact that C&E matches programming'' You wot m8? You have a lot of scientific articles to write dude, you will get multiple nobel prizes. You know better than most scientific theories at this point, truly amazing.
legendary
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September 01, 2018, 06:01:26 PM

''C&E is a fact'' So what? A cause can still produce randomness, what's the cause of rolling a dice? A human hand, now that you know the cause, do you know the outcome?

What does your knowing or not knowing have to do with what exists? The forces on the rolling of the dice through the hand, and from outside sources like gravity, and possibly the flow of the air, are complex beyond imagination. Knowing them or not knowing them doesn't eliminate their existence.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Do you know what the first cause is? Did you prove it's someone programming stuff? How do you know it's not a non sentient event? If it's not a god or someone that has consciousness then nothing is programmed because there is no programmer.  

The fact that C&E matches programming, shows us that there is a programmer, even if we have no idea who or what it is. I mean, if you find an old computer in the dump, and you take it home and fire it up, this doesn't mean that you know who the programmer is/was. But the programs might still work perfectly, showing that there was a programmer.

That's exactly why evolution theory evolution is not real. The theory doesn't take into consideration any programmer, but C&E in everything shows that there is a programmer.

Evolution is a hoax.

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September 01, 2018, 09:01:15 AM

''C&E is a fact'' So what? A cause can still produce randomness, what's the cause of rolling a dice? A human hand, now that you know the cause, do you know the outcome?

What does your knowing or not knowing have to do with what exists? The forces on the rolling of the dice through the hand, and from outside sources like gravity, and possibly the flow of the air, are complex beyond imagination. Knowing them or not knowing them doesn't eliminate their existence.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Do you know what the first cause is? Did you prove it's someone programming stuff? How do you know it's not a non sentient event? If it's not a god or someone that has consciousness then nothing is programmed because there is no programmer. 
legendary
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September 01, 2018, 08:12:45 AM

''C&E is a fact'' So what? A cause can still produce randomness, what's the cause of rolling a dice? A human hand, now that you know the cause, do you know the outcome?

What does your knowing or not knowing have to do with what exists? The forces on the rolling of the dice through the hand, and from outside sources like gravity, and possibly the flow of the air, are complex beyond imagination. Knowing them or not knowing them doesn't eliminate their existence.

Evolution is a hoax.

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August 31, 2018, 05:03:40 PM

''Not one proof of pure random has been shown''

Again: Complexity arises from simple rules, atoms bumping into each other is enough. Humans are capable of creating things more complex than themselves, you don't need something more complex. This is already debunked several times in the other thread where I destroyed your god arguments. ''We see C&E all over the place. We have not one evidence of pure random.'' Quantum theorists disagree with you and there is no reason to believe you instead of them.

Bring evidence and debunk quantum theory then.

Is the reason why scientists haven't found out everything about physics, yet, because complexity rises from simple rules? You are starting to sound like a simpleton who can't begin to realize how complex the rules are.

Something more complex than humans created them, so that they are able to create a few things that are complex in different ways than they are. Other than that, you don't really know that humans create things that are more complex than they are.

That other thread was where you destroyed your integrity rather than my points, by simply not accepting proof for what it is, right in its face.

Did you see your, above, line about quantum theorists? Notice the word "theorists." A scientific theory is known to be subject to change based on new findings. This alone shows that it is not fact. C&E is a fact, as proven by the vast quantities of C&E that exist, without even one pure random proof. Quantum is theory, not fact.

If a scientist who is a theorist says that a theory is fact, he is contradicting himself simply by the nature of what a scientific theory is. If YOU state that he says such, you are just as self-contradictory as he is.

Still waiting for proof of one instance of evolution, and now pure random, as well. Are you getting hot under the collar, yet, because your ideas are so easily being shown to be a bunch of blab that doesn't have any substance?

Evolution is a hoax, and you are part of the hoaxing team.

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''C&E is a fact'' So what? A cause can still produce randomness, what's the cause of rolling a dice? A human hand, now that you know the cause, do you know the outcome?
legendary
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August 31, 2018, 03:17:52 PM

''Not one proof of pure random has been shown''

Again: Complexity arises from simple rules, atoms bumping into each other is enough. Humans are capable of creating things more complex than themselves, you don't need something more complex. This is already debunked several times in the other thread where I destroyed your god arguments. ''We see C&E all over the place. We have not one evidence of pure random.'' Quantum theorists disagree with you and there is no reason to believe you instead of them.

Bring evidence and debunk quantum theory then.

Is the reason why scientists haven't found out everything about physics, yet, because complexity rises from simple rules? You are starting to sound like a simpleton who can't begin to realize how complex the rules are.

Something more complex than humans created them, so that they are able to create a few things that are complex in different ways than they are. Other than that, you don't really know that humans create things that are more complex than they are.

That other thread was where you destroyed your integrity rather than my points, by simply not accepting proof for what it is, right in its face.

Did you see your, above, line about quantum theorists? Notice the word "theorists." A scientific theory is known to be subject to change based on new findings. This alone shows that it is not fact. C&E is a fact, as proven by the vast quantities of C&E that exist, without even one pure random proof. Quantum is theory, not fact.

If a scientist who is a theorist says that a theory is fact, he is contradicting himself simply by the nature of what a scientific theory is. If YOU state that he says such, you are just as self-contradictory as he is.

Still waiting for proof of one instance of evolution, and now pure random, as well. Are you getting hot under the collar, yet, because your ideas are so easily being shown to be a bunch of blab that doesn't have any substance?

Evolution is a hoax, and you are part of the hoaxing team.

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August 31, 2018, 05:49:47 AM
How in the world dense are you. Nobody knows how many electrons, other particles, and energies were created at the same time. We don't know if there was a first electron or a second one. But it seems that you are way to dense to understand that I was giving you an example of the C&E way electrons and everything else works in the universe.

Because you are like you are, I am really going to throw you for a loop with this: Everything absolutely is predetermined except for predetermination itself.

As far as anything meaning something, you don't understand what you are too ignorant to understand. Study and think a little more, so you can finally start to talk intelligently about the thing you are blabbing.

The laws of physics determine the way C&E works. How do we know? Because if the cause acted slightly differently, the effect would be slightly different. But since the cause acted as it did, the effect became what it became. Remember, every cause is simple the effect of whatever it was that caused the cause it to act the way it did, before it became the cause of something else that was its effect. All of it acts exactly the way it was pre-programmed to act at the time of the Beginning.

Because of this, the thing that is called evolution was pre-programmed. Because it was pre-programmed, it doesn't fit what evolution theory says it should be in random mutations. In fact, evolution theory is self-contradictory in its ideas of natural selection and random mutations. Why don't evolution theorists use proper wording to keep the theory from being self-contradictory? They can't. Why? Because evolution doesn't exist.

Evolution is a complete hoax.

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Hmm, ad hominem i see! Arguing against the man, does not strengthen your argument. It a logical fallacy. I’m not going there.

Your deducting of programming out of C&E is equally a logical fallacy. It like saying water exists because I build a hose for it to flow though. Well it does not. You are not in control of causes and you cannot deduct the effect 100%, cause never ever in all the universe history has the cause been 100% the same, twice. How do you deduct programming out of this?

Once again Evolution do need random mutation, it has enough randomness as explained. Two parents, 4 children, tell me you don’t have random evolution right there. No? How come the 4 children are not identical then? Ohh yes the fetus (or the very mixing) adapted, I know!  Whether pure random exist or not, is pure speculation, I can’t prove it, you can’t prove it. And just the fact that it is speculation, true or not true, makes your relicense on it to explain away Evolution, yet another logical fallacy. I don’t need it to either true or not true, cause randomness is all around us, in trillion of examples.

Nothing is programmed and Evolution is fact.

Nobody is quarreling. Pointing out a flaw in a person is not ad hominem.

Play pool, sometime. If you hit the cue ball in exactly this way, it will do exactly this. If you hit the ball in exactly that way, it will do exactly that. If you hit the ball exactly the same way every time, it will do exactly the same thing every time. This is the standard of science... do exactly the same thing the same way, and the result will be exactly the same every time.

The reason the 4 children are different is not because there is random. Rather, it is because the C&E is different for all of them. If the C&E were exactly the same for all of them, they would all be exactly the same. This is what scientific experimentation is all about... getting the exact same results when doing things exactly the same way.

Just because people are incapable of seeing/understanding/recording the trillions of C&E actions involved in making 4 different children, doesn't mean that those trillions of C&E actions don't exist.

Not one proof of pure random has been shown. In fact, pure random doesn't even fit how things work in the universe. Yet there are countless, proven C&E operations. Many of these are in the field of science.

Since there is no proven pure random, evolution theory evolution cannot be proven. Why not? Because the theory says random mutations must exist for evolution to exist. If the kind of random being talked about is not pure random, but only the kind of random used is the way you toss a coin - artificial random, C&E that is too complex to understand the way the toss works - then we are talking C&E. Then all the evolution stuff has been guided by the way things work, in an exact way. Such smacks of programming. And programming of the universe is Intelligent Design.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

''Not one proof of pure random has been shown''

Again: Complexity arises from simple rules, atoms bumping into each other is enough. Humans are capable of creating things more complex than themselves, you don't need something more complex. This is already debunked several times in the other thread where I destroyed your god arguments. ''We see C&E all over the place. We have not one evidence of pure random.'' Quantum theorists disagree with you and there is no reason to believe you instead of them.

Bring evidence and debunk quantum theory then.
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August 30, 2018, 10:58:33 AM
How in the world dense are you. Nobody knows how many electrons, other particles, and energies were created at the same time. We don't know if there was a first electron or a second one. But it seems that you are way to dense to understand that I was giving you an example of the C&E way electrons and everything else works in the universe.

Because you are like you are, I am really going to throw you for a loop with this: Everything absolutely is predetermined except for predetermination itself.

As far as anything meaning something, you don't understand what you are too ignorant to understand. Study and think a little more, so you can finally start to talk intelligently about the thing you are blabbing.

The laws of physics determine the way C&E works. How do we know? Because if the cause acted slightly differently, the effect would be slightly different. But since the cause acted as it did, the effect became what it became. Remember, every cause is simple the effect of whatever it was that caused the cause it to act the way it did, before it became the cause of something else that was its effect. All of it acts exactly the way it was pre-programmed to act at the time of the Beginning.

Because of this, the thing that is called evolution was pre-programmed. Because it was pre-programmed, it doesn't fit what evolution theory says it should be in random mutations. In fact, evolution theory is self-contradictory in its ideas of natural selection and random mutations. Why don't evolution theorists use proper wording to keep the theory from being self-contradictory? They can't. Why? Because evolution doesn't exist.

Evolution is a complete hoax.

Cool

Hmm, ad hominem i see! Arguing against the man, does not strengthen your argument. It a logical fallacy. I’m not going there.

Your deducting of programming out of C&E is equally a logical fallacy. It like saying water exists because I build a hose for it to flow though. Well it does not. You are not in control of causes and you cannot deduct the effect 100%, cause never ever in all the universe history has the cause been 100% the same, twice. How do you deduct programming out of this?

Once again Evolution do need random mutation, it has enough randomness as explained. Two parents, 4 children, tell me you don’t have random evolution right there. No? How come the 4 children are not identical then? Ohh yes the fetus (or the very mixing) adapted, I know!  Whether pure random exist or not, is pure speculation, I can’t prove it, you can’t prove it. And just the fact that it is speculation, true or not true, makes your relicense on it to explain away Evolution, yet another logical fallacy. I don’t need it to either true or not true, cause randomness is all around us, in trillion of examples.

Nothing is programmed and Evolution is fact.

Nobody is quarreling. Pointing out a flaw in a person is not ad hominem.

Play pool, sometime. If you hit the cue ball in exactly this way, it will do exactly this. If you hit the ball in exactly that way, it will do exactly that. If you hit the ball exactly the same way every time, it will do exactly the same thing every time. This is the standard of science... do exactly the same thing the same way, and the result will be exactly the same every time.

The reason the 4 children are different is not because there is random. Rather, it is because the C&E is different for all of them. If the C&E were exactly the same for all of them, they would all be exactly the same. This is what scientific experimentation is all about... getting the exact same results when doing things exactly the same way.

Just because people are incapable of seeing/understanding/recording the trillions of C&E actions involved in making 4 different children, doesn't mean that those trillions of C&E actions don't exist.

Not one proof of pure random has been shown. In fact, pure random doesn't even fit how things work in the universe. Yet there are countless, proven C&E operations. Many of these are in the field of science.

Since there is no proven pure random, evolution theory evolution cannot be proven. Why not? Because the theory says random mutations must exist for evolution to exist. If the kind of random being talked about is not pure random, but only the kind of random used is the way you toss a coin - artificial random, C&E that is too complex to understand the way the toss works - then we are talking C&E. Then all the evolution stuff has been guided by the way things work, in an exact way. Such smacks of programming. And programming of the universe is Intelligent Design.

Evolution is a hoax.

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