Topic: Evolution is a hoax - page 71. (Read 108046 times)

But thank you for helping us with all the evidence you post.     

You can't prove I'm wrong, as I said.

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You can play this game. You know I stated things that would prove 100% you would withdraw from your statement. Do not be dishonest not only to yourself but for others as well.

If one would try one could disprove that very easily... its just a waste of time. But for the atheists that spends so much time it is clearly not unimportant to prove, that God had not made things. So if one would do that one would be very famous.

Proving you are wrong would not make anyone famous, because asylums are full of people claiming the thing you have said and noone is famous proving them they are wrong.

You can't prove me wrong even if you tried, I work in mysterious ways that you would not understand, anything you think you know is false.

I have told you there are ways to prove you are wrong.. You would not like none of them. Do not provoke God to prove you are falacious.

I also support the statement that evolution is a hoax. I am a Christian and I truly believed that we are Created as humans and not as monkeys. There are no proofs to back-up the claim of Charles Darwin and it is just a Theory. Just because we have the same few features with the primates then we come from monkeys. This kind of foolishness has no solid evidence to prove that we come from primates, humans have existed a very long time ago and we are humans since the beginning.

Actually I made everything unless disproved. I'm God by the way.

Indeed, evolution is a great lie, supported by people who are afraid of learning the truth and who steadfastly cling to the popular belief of their times to preserve their careers and academic stature. Evolution can't be proven yet we accept it as being true. The evidence that they presented from what they observed from the Galapagos Island is hardly true if viewed through the context of the volume of fossils that archaeologist have excavated. 

They will never find the missing link because there is no such thing in the first place.

Science can be told to be as much con as religion Smiley

Your preaching science and know nothing of it, just because you saw it somewhere .

That's how conning works.

But im not conned by your madness Smiley

Not more than by preacher of any sort.

Science doesnt prove much evolution  no more than you prove anything.

You dont even know what proof is lol

Typing in caps being drunk insulting people is not really a proof of anything outside of your own madness and authority complex .

I blame your parents for yelling too much at you to show their authority.

Im glad you mention the gravity theory. Gravity is a fact. There are complementary gravity theories that are not based on mass but electricity.

http://www.holoscience.com/wp/electric-gravity-in-an-electric-universe/

It is the same with adaptation, natural selection, common cause and dna - those are facts. Just like gravitation is a fact. But people argue what was the cause of that fact.

If you like it or not it is a valid argument God have done it - unless disproven. It is not important how it was done, it is only important that it was done rapid just like in the evolution. Evolutionist do not care how the life was created as long as it was created - you have said so with your own words. The thing that divide us is that we are argueing it was fast, and you argue it was slow. You argue that living organism gradualy improve, and we say that they gradualy getting worse.

It is the theories that are 100% opposite in their casuality and there are more reasons to believe creationism although none of the evidences are enough to make case in any way. It is just a loooooooot more plausible it was a rapid and now degrading process not the other way around.


That fact is suggesting the world will end. The world will have less coherent information and more errors until it would be cut in the half, as it written in the Bible. God will not allow for too much error in the world he will end it in the middle of it. He is pointing you to repent. Why the world will end? Because it was destined so at the fall.

So what's your theory? God made our brains shrink? Is he making us dumber? ''It is important if something is factual or not'' Evolution is a fact, the theory of evolution explains the fact just like gravity and gravity theory. I still don't see why virtually every science and scientist would support evolution if it was a complete hoax.

Yes it is an adaptation - to an evil world true. That does not make you closer to prove the evolution to the slightest.

We are not smarter. At least not the majority of the people. I see a lot and alot and a lot on top of not smart people that think they are geniuses. Just because people think they are smart, does not make them smart. To the contrary. Humility is the first step to the wisdom.

Our knowledge increase because we are not dependant on our individual knowledge but in the libraries of data. I would say individual human have no idea about anything.

People never got their knowledge or insight from that one book. If they would they would not be so much degenerated.


You did define your evolution knowledge and all of what you know is just not true and contrary to the fact. You cannot undone it. You will not run away from your dishonesty.


It is not if some theory is better than the other. It is important if something is factual or not.... You seem to not understand that. It is sad.

Ok, brains size decreases, but it's an adaptation and not devolution. We are actually much smarter now than before when our brains were bigger. Evolution is not just biological, but also cultural. Our knowledge increases. This is the part you can't get a grip on while thinking that all answers are in one Book.
Although I knew it from the start, now I give up from this debate because it's pointless to explain evolution to you. Maybe you even know the theory better than me, but your beliefs stop you from accepting it.
I don't claim evolution is a sacred truth. It's just the best theory we have at this time. I will gladly abandon it when we reach something better.

This theory is totally wrong and have no base....

It is not hard to find that our brain gradually shrink. Here is the example of 5 seconds search. I have not even rEad the article:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-have-our-brains-started-to-shrink/

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-human-brain-size-decreasing

It is not important why. It is a known fact that it is.


Thats adaptation not an evolution. It can be as well biblicly as well as unbiblicly. You choose the latter but that is not how the world looks like. World do not say either way. It could be both ways.


You use vague language. What do you mean by saying improved? Evolution do not use such a term. They use the term better adapted to the enviroment. You call evolution something that is not an evolution, and that what evolutionists call evolution is just an adaptation.


And that sentence is actually not saying anything. It is a hot air.


It is never more advanced. Show me one example of more advanced specie arriving outside of the imagination of idolaters. It was always the other way around - the changes was according the enviroment and it was fully reversible. Do you understand? Wild animals can be domesticated for example and adapt and after a while, it can be the same wild specie as before, using natural selection ofcourse, but the evolution says that the evolution do not go backwards. That is contrary to the facts. Evolution as they call it, and that is simply an adaptions that can go backward.


You see? You even stated that evolution can lead to blind alleys - meaning - it does not go backward. That is just not true. But it is not an evolution it is simply adaptation.



No? The fact that the pig is more similiar to us in genetics than any monkey disprove your notion of genetics having anything to do with any lineage. It is disproven.

So its either you do not understand the evolution, or you do not understand that the things you say is disproven by THE REALITY!


The difference between the TV and your message is none. Yes I know the slandering of christians calling them muslims. Good luck with that on the Judgement Day.


It does. And that link that connects us is God the creator.


Yeah... some people have memories of rocks... they do not think most of the time.. And the dreams of flying is because we were monkeybats....... Bats that had become monkeys. Nice. I wonder when they would include batman as our missing link.

I asked you how do you understand evolution and you tell me the divinations and dream interpretations. Yup evolution is magical thinking because the reality disproven what they say.

Towards more knowledge and less superstition. What facts show we devolve? Except for religious fundamentalism. Can you provide a source for brain size claim?
Believing in the Bible literally and thinking that evolution is a hoax and that everyone else is deceived by the Devil - that makes you a fundamentalist.
The difference between you and ISIS fundamentalists is that you are peaceful and educated. Your worldview is very similar to their.

Defining aspect of evolution, as I see it, is gradual perfecting of lifeforms. One comes after the other, improved. Descendants come after their ancestors. However, it isn't always the case that the newer lifeform is more advanced. Evolution leads to many blind alleys.
Genetics shows the common origin of all lifeforms. Our genome shows our kinship to all lifeforms.

Do you know that feeling when you are somewhere between the waking state and falling asleep? You are on your bed and suddenly you twitch like you were falling somewhere? Our ancestors were sleeping on trees. Guess what can happen if you fall asleep on a tree? You can fall down. This memory is still embedded in our genes and consciousness.

Yes I need to be commanded to love the person I would call the wrong doer. The society teaches me that to not love the ones that I might consider my enemies - I am suppose to be better than the society of this flawwed world.

I would love - but not my neighbours, only those good to me like pagans do.

Love is not an acceptance...... Love is having a warm feeling despite everything. I have warm feelings to you despite I do not agree with you. I do not have to accept your point of view or what you do.

For example. You used the parents as example. Lets say that the daughter is a drug addict. Out of love one should accept that she is so? Out of love one would do everything to let her out of that addiction.


There is no such thing as religious fundamentalism. It is a slander term. Either someone love the teachings of Christ or not. Many will say to the Christ in that day - Lord! Lord! and he will say depart from me those who do the workings of inequity.


So what is its main characteristic? The thing that defines it and that cannot be explained otherwise in reality? In other words if you would see some of its aspect in the world - what would that be?


I do not believe in creationism. I believe the word of God is true if that implies that there is no evolution - so be it. Creationist is I guess some kind of a slander term as well it would be better to be called non-evolutionist. It is obvious that the world as well as lifeforms had their begining, so there was a creation, so everyone should call themselves a creationists. It is kind of a silly.


I am polish it is rare to think outside of the box here, and the box is that if someone have phd infront of his name everything what he says is true. America is the country of people that once believed biblicly that is why they were running away from Europe. They are less and less biblicly inclined and that is sad.


You wanted to say - they are "saving" Christianity from the Bible right?


Why did you come to think I had any magical thinking? You on the other hand have a problem with too much stereotypical thinking.


Wait... We evolve towards what? All the facts says we devolve - especially our average brain size.

Commanded to love! Do you tell that to your family also? Aren't we a poor type of beings if we have to be "commanded to love"? So you wouldn't love anyone if the Bible didn't say so?
Yes, love is acceptance even if (you think) someone is wrong. You would know this if you understood the Gospels.

You seem like a well educated person, so I don't see how you ended up with creationism and religious fundamentalism.
Yes, I understand evolution and I understand your view of Christianity. It's just that I have a different view on these topics. Creationism is a minor branch in modern Christianity, but I'm baffled with it. It's interesting that it's mostly an American phenomenon. Such a peculiar country.

Jesuits are saving Christianity from oblivion, at least in the West, mark my words. While creationists are pushing it into ridicule. Creationism can survive in the third world or in parts of the US, among the ignorance and magical thinking. It has no future because people evolve.

You are my neighbour and I am commanded to love you. Out of love I am saying that you are not my brother. You can do better. Ok? You think that love is to accept everything. No. Love is wanting the best to the other person.

What does God have to do with Belial? How two can walk together unless they are in agreement?


No it is not. It is a belief that values standards and law.


Noone is good except God. I am not right... I do things I would not want to do even tho I know they are wrong. That is a process of purification on my part to not want to be vengeful, hating, lustful, covetous etc etc.

I have not said other religions are not right. They are. To some degree. Many people have teachings similiar to Christ, but if they are driving them away from the Christ it is not good in my opinion. I was impressed with some Sikh and what he was saying. It is so sad that many non-bible catholic concepts are driving the people away from the Messiah.

No religion is right ok? No christian religion is right. It is not that only christianity are the chosen people, a lot of people in the so called christian world deny the Bible ok? So it is the same with every religion, not just so called non-christian.


They are all decieving themselves believing the priests. They should be the priests themselves the priests of the High priest Jesus Christ that have the law written in their hearts.


No. That is why we have a Messiah and the ORDER and commandment to go and spread.


Yes we see a character of a God, but it is not a God. It is his mere image. We are the mere image of the character of God. We should not bow down to eachother as well.

Do not make any image of what is in the earth - and do not bow down before it. Second commandment.


Jesuits? Ha... They are the fathers of many idolatries. Why am I not surprised?


And Romans. Some greeks had part in it as well. You do not agree with the concept of being a prophet do you? Well many Jews did not agree as well and they killed their own prophets - that is why the God was and is not happy with them.


You are not aware how hard it is to falsify the living book ok? Try to falsify the Lord of the Rings for example. You could not do it. People would saw every fraud.


How? He would not said "after its own kind" he would not want to misguide them doesnt he.

Explaining evolution is simple. For example - your mother is a rock. Or the mother of this group of creature is a mouse for example. And a mother of that creature was a fish. Instead he called us all the sons of Adam and Eve. Ofcourse there is a methaporical serpent there from time to time. But... it has nothing to do with evolution, maybe with the science of the behaviour of animals - ethology . The reptiles are known for their lack of empathy called many times being coldblooded. So if someone is a son of the serpent - he took the characteristic of a serpent - being a psychopath. Ofcourse it have nothing to do with reptilians, rather reptilians story is another story to ridicule the Bible. Just like the evolution.


If you believe in evolution it does not mean that you understand it do you? I understand it very well as well as Baddecker we have proven that we do many times in this thread. The question is - do you understand it?