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April 23, 2018, 08:00:10 PM
Well it is a paradox. One can never prove Darwins theory but one can never dismiss it entirely. We have no proof of evolution as it takes place over thousands of years and will have to stick with the theory until we come across a better theory which explains our existence in this world.

Nothing that happened in the past and is not happen currently can be proved to an 100% degree. That being said, we can calculate fossils age, with that we can see for example, the human skull, has been evolving over time, changing, unless you concluded that somehow different humans popped into existence randomly throughout time the best explanation is that we evolved and our skulls evolved too.

But evolution can't be proven at all. Why? Because everything that is suggested to be evolution fits something else better, like adaptation.

What can be readily shown about evolution is, there is a bunch of talk about the fiction we know as evolution... loads of talk and writing.

In the field of evolution, it looks like scientists are rushing to delude themselves in a really firm way.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Yeah ok badecker, can you see that you sound just like notbatman? Yeah, scientists are deluding themselves. They are fabricating this hoax for some odd reason, aren't they? Belief in god among scientists exist, numbers vary 30 to even 40%. However when it comes to evolution, virtually everyone accepts it. Even your friend Coincube.

Well, it is you who are sounding more like notbatman. Consider. Are scientists people or not? If they are people, they are going to have hopes and dreams and failures and incorrectness just like people who are not scientists.

Religious people believe their religion based on things they believe. But there are some things in every religion that are truth. For example, the location of a city listed in a religious book. All religious books list something that is real and factual. The religions are the same.

Science has things that are factual, just like religion. But science has believers in things that are not known to be factual, and those believers often even know that the things that they believe in might not be factual. Sounds like religion to me.

So, when you have so-called evidence for evolution that can be better understood as adaptation, along with no proof for evolution, you have a religion called evolution... at least in the minds of those who believe in evolution.

In addition, evolution belief fits what the detailed definition of religion states. Check the whole definition at http://www.dictionary.com/browse/search?s=t and see if part of it doesn't match evolution... since there isn't any absolute fact for evolution at all.

Continue with your evolution religion if you want. It doesn't bother me at all, since it is your choice. But have a chance to wake up through the things that I am saying here.

Evolution is a hoax.

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A hoax that has infinitely more applications than creationism which is the real, thing, right? http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA215.html

Hmm
legendary
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April 22, 2018, 07:09:35 PM
Well it is a paradox. One can never prove Darwins theory but one can never dismiss it entirely. We have no proof of evolution as it takes place over thousands of years and will have to stick with the theory until we come across a better theory which explains our existence in this world.

Nothing that happened in the past and is not happen currently can be proved to an 100% degree. That being said, we can calculate fossils age, with that we can see for example, the human skull, has been evolving over time, changing, unless you concluded that somehow different humans popped into existence randomly throughout time the best explanation is that we evolved and our skulls evolved too.

But evolution can't be proven at all. Why? Because everything that is suggested to be evolution fits something else better, like adaptation.

What can be readily shown about evolution is, there is a bunch of talk about the fiction we know as evolution... loads of talk and writing.

In the field of evolution, it looks like scientists are rushing to delude themselves in a really firm way.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Yeah ok badecker, can you see that you sound just like notbatman? Yeah, scientists are deluding themselves. They are fabricating this hoax for some odd reason, aren't they? Belief in god among scientists exist, numbers vary 30 to even 40%. However when it comes to evolution, virtually everyone accepts it. Even your friend Coincube.

Well, it is you who are sounding more like notbatman. Consider. Are scientists people or not? If they are people, they are going to have hopes and dreams and failures and incorrectness just like people who are not scientists.

Religious people believe their religion based on things they believe. But there are some things in every religion that are truth. For example, the location of a city listed in a religious book. All religious books list something that is real and factual. The religions are the same.

Science has things that are factual, just like religion. But science has believers in things that are not known to be factual, and those believers often even know that the things that they believe in might not be factual. Sounds like religion to me.

So, when you have so-called evidence for evolution that can be better understood as adaptation, along with no proof for evolution, you have a religion called evolution... at least in the minds of those who believe in evolution.

In addition, evolution belief fits what the detailed definition of religion states. Check the whole definition at http://www.dictionary.com/browse/search?s=t and see if part of it doesn't match evolution... since there isn't any absolute fact for evolution at all.

Continue with your evolution religion if you want. It doesn't bother me at all, since it is your choice. But have a chance to wake up through the things that I am saying here.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
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April 22, 2018, 06:14:14 AM
Well it is a paradox. One can never prove Darwins theory but one can never dismiss it entirely. We have no proof of evolution as it takes place over thousands of years and will have to stick with the theory until we come across a better theory which explains our existence in this world.

Nothing that happened in the past and is not happen currently can be proved to an 100% degree. That being said, we can calculate fossils age, with that we can see for example, the human skull, has been evolving over time, changing, unless you concluded that somehow different humans popped into existence randomly throughout time the best explanation is that we evolved and our skulls evolved too.

But evolution can't be proven at all. Why? Because everything that is suggested to be evolution fits something else better, like adaptation.

What can be readily shown about evolution is, there is a bunch of talk about the fiction we know as evolution... loads of talk and writing.

In the field of evolution, it looks like scientists are rushing to delude themselves in a really firm way.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Yeah ok badecker, can you see that you sound just like notbatman? Yeah, scientists are deluding themselves. They are fabricating this hoax for some odd reason, aren't they? Belief in god among scientists exist, numbers vary 30 to even 40%. However when it comes to evolution, virtually everyone accepts it. Even your friend Coincube.
legendary
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April 21, 2018, 12:30:59 PM
Well it is a paradox. One can never prove Darwins theory but one can never dismiss it entirely. We have no proof of evolution as it takes place over thousands of years and will have to stick with the theory until we come across a better theory which explains our existence in this world.

Nothing that happened in the past and is not happen currently can be proved to an 100% degree. That being said, we can calculate fossils age, with that we can see for example, the human skull, has been evolving over time, changing, unless you concluded that somehow different humans popped into existence randomly throughout time the best explanation is that we evolved and our skulls evolved too.

But evolution can't be proven at all. Why? Because everything that is suggested to be evolution fits something else better, like adaptation.

What can be readily shown about evolution is, there is a bunch of talk about the fiction we know as evolution... loads of talk and writing.

In the field of evolution, it looks like scientists are rushing to delude themselves in a really firm way.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
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April 21, 2018, 11:03:55 AM
The Theory of Evolution of Man of Charles Darwin have been widely known and deeply debated. But I think that evolution is just merely a theory. Majority of the findings are factual and accurate but not consistent. Because evidences are already there proving that evolution of man is factual. However, there are inconsistency in the results. Meaning, findings vary from one to another. If that's the case, then it would be very questionable. For example, if we, humans, evolved from monkeys, then why is it the monkeys of today do not evolve as a human being? If they tell that there are always exemption to the rules then those theory is not accepted universally.
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April 17, 2018, 02:11:41 AM
Evolution theorists are just like flat-earthers. They want to prove things that only less people believe. It's like a challenge to them and they will fight for it for the rest of their lives.


Reading all the post im 100% sure majority of you ppl didnt evolve from monkeys but are monkeys  Grin

Hard said, but a bit funny too Smiley I would use those words, doesn't mean i disagree tho!
legendary
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April 15, 2018, 08:32:23 AM
Evolution theorists are just like flat-earthers. They want to prove things that only less people believe. It's like a challenge to them and they will fight for it for the rest of their lives.


Reading all the post im 100% sure majority of you ppl didnt evolve from monkeys but are monkeys  Grin
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April 15, 2018, 08:25:21 AM
Evolution theorists are just like flat-earthers. They want to prove things that only less people believe. It's like a challenge to them and they will fight for it for the rest of their lives.
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April 15, 2018, 05:52:59 AM
Well it is a paradox. One can never prove Darwins theory but one can never dismiss it entirely. We have no proof of evolution as it takes place over thousands of years and will have to stick with the theory until we come across a better theory which explains our existence in this world.

Nothing that happened in the past and is not happen currently can be proved to an 100% degree. That being said, we can calculate fossils age, with that we can see for example, the human skull, has been evolving over time, changing, unless you concluded that somehow different humans popped into existence randomly throughout time the best explanation is that we evolved and our skulls evolved too.
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April 15, 2018, 04:23:58 AM
Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE
i don't believe on evolution hoax,because I'm only believe in god, that the first man adam and eve  well be the frist created by god at the beautiful harden of eden, in my opinion evolution hoax is only theory based on science not only apply in the reality,if man came from apes or monkeys ,,why missing link are still missing Wink
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April 15, 2018, 03:59:08 AM
No, it isn't a hoax. It's a fact. It really happened. It is the true story of life on earth, who we are, and how we got here. It's the foundation of modern biology, without which advances in many areas of human endeavor, like medicine and agriculture, would not have have been possible.
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March 23, 2018, 05:33:41 AM
That is also my question about evolution of man that's why i don't believe it actually not just the evolution everything i believe more on religion explanation than scientific explanation about creation and evolution.
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March 20, 2018, 02:38:47 PM
The monkey question might be a little silly. But the fact that evolution is a hoax is true, and not funny at all.

Things like:
1. probability math,
2. Irreversible Complexity,
3. no beneficial mutations ever having been found, not even once,
4. no proof of missing links in the fossils,
all show that evolution is simply a hoax, used to build scientists up in the eyes of the people, so that the scientists can make money off them, one way or another.

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Thanks, this sums it up pretty well. Species only adapted to their environment. No fundamental changes in the 'base' of the species are ever recorded.
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March 20, 2018, 02:28:44 PM
Wait... We evolve towards what? All the facts says we devolve - especially our average brain size.
Towards more knowledge and less superstition. What facts show we devolve? Except for religious fundamentalism. Can you provide a source for brain size claim?
Believing in the Bible literally and thinking that evolution is a hoax and that everyone else is deceived by the Devil - that makes you a fundamentalist.
The difference between you and ISIS fundamentalists is that you are peaceful and educated. Your worldview is very similar to their.

Defining aspect of evolution, as I see it, is gradual perfecting of lifeforms. One comes after the other, improved. Descendants come after their ancestors. However, it isn't always the case that the newer lifeform is more advanced. Evolution leads to many blind alleys.
Genetics shows the common origin of all lifeforms. Our genome shows our kinship to all lifeforms.

Do you know that feeling when you are somewhere between the waking state and falling asleep? You are on your bed and suddenly you twitch like you were falling somewhere? Our ancestors were sleeping on trees. Guess what can happen if you fall asleep on a tree? You can fall down. This memory is still embedded in our genes and consciousness.

Evolution is a hoax for two major reasons:
1. There is no proof of it except in the imaginations of people who want evolution proof really badly;
2. Essentially all the evidence fits adaptation or creation better... except in the imaginations of people who want evolution evidence really badly.

Evolution that is believed in is simply another religion.

Evolution is a hoax.

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''2. Essentially all the evidence fits adaptation or creation better... except in the imaginations of people who want evolution evidence really badly.''

Actually, almost everything evolution says it's proof against creationism:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_against_a_recent_creation

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/cre-error.html

http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-creationists.html
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March 20, 2018, 01:57:43 PM
I asked you how do you understand evolution and you tell me the divinations and dream interpretations. Yup evolution is magical thinking because the reality disproven what they say.
Ok, brains size decreases, but it's an adaptation and not devolution. We are actually much smarter now than before when our brains were bigger. Evolution is not just biological, but also cultural. Our knowledge increases. This is the part you can't get a grip on while thinking that all answers are in one Book.
Although I knew it from the start, now I give up from this debate because it's pointless to explain evolution to you. Maybe you even know the theory better than me, but your beliefs stop you from accepting it.
I don't claim evolution is a sacred truth. It's just the best theory we have at this time. I will gladly abandon it when we reach something better.

Yes it is an adaptation - to an evil world true. That does not make you closer to prove the evolution to the slightest.

We are not smarter. At least not the majority of the people. I see a lot and alot and a lot on top of not smart people that think they are geniuses. Just because people think they are smart, does not make them smart. To the contrary. Humility is the first step to the wisdom.

Our knowledge increase because we are not dependant on our individual knowledge but in the libraries of data. I would say individual human have no idea about anything.

People never got their knowledge or insight from that one book. If they would they would not be so much degenerated.

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Although I knew it from the start, now I give up from this debate because it's pointless to explain evolution to you.

You did define your evolution knowledge and all of what you know is just not true and contrary to the fact. You cannot undone it. You will not run away from your dishonesty.

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I don't claim evolution is a sacred truth. It's just the best theory we have at this time.

It is not if some theory is better than the other. It is important if something is factual or not.... You seem to not understand that. It is sad.

So what's your theory? God made our brains shrink? Is he making us dumber? ''It is important if something is factual or not'' Evolution is a fact, the theory of evolution explains the fact just like gravity and gravity theory. I still don't see why virtually every science and scientist would support evolution if it was a complete hoax.

Actually, You are attempting to make your brain shrink by continuing to believe in you evolution religion.

There is no proof of evolution. Essentially all evolution evidence fits something else (adaptation) better.

God made all life to propagate "after their kind"; none of it changes from one kind to another kind.

Evolution is a hoax, and one of the biggest.

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''There is no proof of evolution. Essentially all evolution evidence fits something else (adaptation) better.'' That's what notbatman says about gravity, it fits density better, you are just like him.

''God made all life to propagate "after their kind"; none of it changes from one kind to another kind.'' Evolution would be something quite smart but god isn't very smart in your opinion.
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March 20, 2018, 01:14:04 PM
Your Sunday Sermon





This seems like nothing but a testament to the magic of prayer; but God is not merely a grantor of wishes.  When tempted by the devil himself, even Christ himself did not call on His Father for favor.

Perhaps it's not reasonable to ask God to break the laws of physics every time we fall by the wayside, or make a serious error; perhaps you could ask instead what you have to do right now to increase your resolve, buttress your character, and find the strength to go on.  Perhaps you can ask instead to see the truth.

People suffer because they think their lives are meaningless.  People always ask for a meaningful life; but perhaps there is a price to be paid for abandoning meaninglessness.

...

So it’s a funny thing: rather than ignorance being the justification for a belief in God, it is terror and the lack of willingness to accept responsibility that justifies disbelief.


Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/03/bionic-mosquito/your-sunday-sermon/.

Evolution is a religion. Scientific evolution is a hoax.


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legendary
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March 20, 2018, 01:06:14 PM
You are my neighbour and I am commanded to love you. Out of love I am saying that you are not my brother. You can do better. Ok? You think that love is to accept everything. No. Love is wanting the best to the other person.
Commanded to love! Do you tell that to your family also? Aren't we a poor type of beings if we have to be "commanded to love"? So you wouldn't love anyone if the Bible didn't say so?
Yes, love is acceptance even if (you think) someone is wrong. You would know this if you understood the Gospels.

You seem like a well educated person, so I don't see how you ended up with creationism and religious fundamentalism.
Yes, I understand evolution and I understand your view of Christianity. It's just that I have a different view on these topics. Creationism is a minor branch in modern Christianity, but I'm baffled with it. It's interesting that it's mostly an American phenomenon. Such a peculiar country.

Jesuits are saving Christianity from oblivion, at least in the West, mark my words. While creationists are pushing it into ridicule. Creationism can survive in the third world or in parts of the US, among the ignorance and magical thinking. It has no future because people evolve.

You seem to be a well-educated person. How can you remain so blind that you cannot understand that hundreds of thousands (or millions) of scientific investigations into evolution have produced not one proof of evolution, or even one evidence of evolution that cannot be made to fit the creation/adaptation model at least as good.

You can't even see that evolution science has proved that evolution is not real by the above.

This shows that you simply WANT evolution to be real, and that is why you ignore the fact that it isn't. Evolution has become your religion. Everything that you say about religion in your, above, quoted post, fits your evolution religion way easier and better.

Evolution is a hoax.

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legendary
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March 20, 2018, 12:59:38 PM
Except that God, Himself, in the Bible says creation, and "after its kind"... not evolution.
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Guess what? God didn't write the Bible. Some bearded Jews did. But you can believe what you like.
I wouldn't take their word, especially after some much time has passed and we know much more about the world.
Another thing, let's assume God really spoke through the Bible. How would he explain evolution to some warring desert tribes? It would be easier for them to just think that "God created everything". For the same reason we don't teach evolutionary biology in kindergarten. Even adults have trouble understanding it  Wink

2 Peter 1:21:
For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

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March 20, 2018, 12:21:35 PM
Wait... We evolve towards what? All the facts says we devolve - especially our average brain size.
Towards more knowledge and less superstition. What facts show we devolve? Except for religious fundamentalism. Can you provide a source for brain size claim?
Believing in the Bible literally and thinking that evolution is a hoax and that everyone else is deceived by the Devil - that makes you a fundamentalist.
The difference between you and ISIS fundamentalists is that you are peaceful and educated. Your worldview is very similar to their.

Defining aspect of evolution, as I see it, is gradual perfecting of lifeforms. One comes after the other, improved. Descendants come after their ancestors. However, it isn't always the case that the newer lifeform is more advanced. Evolution leads to many blind alleys.
Genetics shows the common origin of all lifeforms. Our genome shows our kinship to all lifeforms.

Do you know that feeling when you are somewhere between the waking state and falling asleep? You are on your bed and suddenly you twitch like you were falling somewhere? Our ancestors were sleeping on trees. Guess what can happen if you fall asleep on a tree? You can fall down. This memory is still embedded in our genes and consciousness.

Evolution is a hoax for two major reasons:
1. There is no proof of it except in the imaginations of people who want evolution proof really badly;
2. Essentially all the evidence fits adaptation or creation better... except in the imaginations of people who want evolution evidence really badly.

Evolution that is believed in is simply another religion.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
legendary
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March 20, 2018, 12:15:01 PM
I asked you how do you understand evolution and you tell me the divinations and dream interpretations. Yup evolution is magical thinking because the reality disproven what they say.
Ok, brains size decreases, but it's an adaptation and not devolution. We are actually much smarter now than before when our brains were bigger. Evolution is not just biological, but also cultural. Our knowledge increases. This is the part you can't get a grip on while thinking that all answers are in one Book.
Although I knew it from the start, now I give up from this debate because it's pointless to explain evolution to you. Maybe you even know the theory better than me, but your beliefs stop you from accepting it.
I don't claim evolution is a sacred truth. It's just the best theory we have at this time. I will gladly abandon it when we reach something better.

Yes it is an adaptation - to an evil world true. That does not make you closer to prove the evolution to the slightest.

We are not smarter. At least not the majority of the people. I see a lot and alot and a lot on top of not smart people that think they are geniuses. Just because people think they are smart, does not make them smart. To the contrary. Humility is the first step to the wisdom.

Our knowledge increase because we are not dependant on our individual knowledge but in the libraries of data. I would say individual human have no idea about anything.

People never got their knowledge or insight from that one book. If they would they would not be so much degenerated.

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Although I knew it from the start, now I give up from this debate because it's pointless to explain evolution to you.

You did define your evolution knowledge and all of what you know is just not true and contrary to the fact. You cannot undone it. You will not run away from your dishonesty.

Quote
I don't claim evolution is a sacred truth. It's just the best theory we have at this time.

It is not if some theory is better than the other. It is important if something is factual or not.... You seem to not understand that. It is sad.

So what's your theory? God made our brains shrink? Is he making us dumber? ''It is important if something is factual or not'' Evolution is a fact, the theory of evolution explains the fact just like gravity and gravity theory. I still don't see why virtually every science and scientist would support evolution if it was a complete hoax.

Actually, You are attempting to make your brain shrink by continuing to believe in you evolution religion.

There is no proof of evolution. Essentially all evolution evidence fits something else (adaptation) better.

God made all life to propagate "after their kind"; none of it changes from one kind to another kind.

Evolution is a hoax, and one of the biggest.

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