Evolution science has proved evolution is a hoax by finding no proof, and not even any clear evidence in favor of evolution.
The thing is that when presented with evidence for evolution (of which there is a staggering amount), you will just say "oh it's not evolution, it's adaption" or "this evidence doesn't explain everything, therefore it's incomplete and invalid". While at the same time you don't apply such criticism to the tenets of your faith, which you simply accept at face value, because doubting it would be sinful (I assume, correct me if I'm wrong).
You couldn't have said it better, that's exactly the problem with these type of people. They will easily believe a fairy tail that has no evidence yet so against well established scientific theories. He will keep yelling ''there is no proof'' bla bla.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution Start here badecker, for proof of evolution.
Thanks, man. I think it's a difference of mindset. If, hypothetically, you or I were shown irrrefutable empirical evidence that in fact there is, say, a Christian God, we'd have to accept it, whether we like it or not. Would it be bothersome? Sure, but if the evidence follows scientific, i.e. logical rules, so does the result and there wouldn't be much of a problem integrating these new findings into our world view. We don't lose anything.
As a religious person (I'm talking young earth religious, there's plenty of logically thinking religious people), if you accept just one scientific finding as fact (like the yeast example), then what stops you from accepting the next and the next and the next? In the end, nothing of what your life and personality was built upon is left. You lose everything.
The more you stand to lose, the stronger you fight it. That's why logical arguments and evidence as you presented here will not get through to the people you or I argue with.
No disrespect is meant to any religious person reading this, by the way. I appreciate your perspective. But this is what I think may motivate many believers.
The thing that shoots down the evolution idea is something that you said. It's the little wording, "irrrefutable empirical evidence." There is no irrefutable empirical evidence that evolution exists. All the evidence fits concepts other than evolution better than they fit evolution.
In addition, there are hosts of, but several major, pieces of irrefutable empirical evidence that show that evolution can't exist. Because of these, the irrefutable empirical evidence relied upon by evolutionists, absolutely fits something else better.
Google "evolution is impossible" or any other set of words to find reasons why evolution can't have happened according to evolution theory. One piece of irrefutable empirical evidence that might not be easily found in searches, is cause and effect.
''evidence relied upon by evolutionists, absolutely fits something else better.'' Then they would call it something else, you keep saying the same shit but every piece of evidence for evolution disproves ''creationism''
Now you are trying to tell me that evolutionists wish that God existed!? LOL! They call it what they call it because that is what they wish existed. Period.
If God wanted to convince me of his existence, he would and yet he doesn't. I pray in faith, knowing you will bless us as you describe in Matthew 7:7, Matthew 17:20, Matthew 21:21, Mark 11:24, John 14:12-14, Matthew 18:19 and James 5:15-16. In Jesus' name we pray, Amen.
You already know in your heart that God exists. God doesn't have to convince you of it. The thing that God is trying to do is coax you to be on His side, in favor of Him... without forcing you into it.
And yet nothing happens, ever. There are no miracles. This is very odd. Jesus makes specific promises in the Bible about how prayer is supposed to work.
I don't blame you for thinking like this. Even the Christians often think like this. So, to show you how wrong you are, I will let you show yourself. Here's how you can show yourself.
In the privacy of your home or office, grow another arm. Maybe grow two of them, one on each side, complete with shoulder-like sockets and joints. You can be a six-limbed person, kinda like the hexapeds in E. E. (Doc) Smith's book,
Spacehounds of IPC.Go ahead. Grow them. Or is all nature the miracle?
Jesus says that the miracles will happen according to your faith. You don't even believe that God exists. According to your faith, you are pushing yourself right out of life, even though God is working very hard to give you more time to change your mind... and faith direction.
The miracle for you (if you don't change) will be that God has offered you salvation, but you are rejecting it for a very painful destruction instead. It's like a joker who is dying of thirst out in the hot desert, finding a pool of the freshest cool water anyone could ever want, but trying to drink hot sand instead of the water. It's a miracle that salvation is there for you, but you would rather throw it away for something that is destroying you.
You already know in your heart that God exists. God doesn't have to convince you of it. The thing that God is trying to do is coax you to be on His side, in favor of Him... without forcing you into it.
So that's where the vicars got the idea from ^^^
God said bend over so i can finger your holy spirit said the vicar ^^
God doesn't have to convince you of it.
thing that God is trying to do is coax you to be on His side, in favor of Him
without forcing you into it
Don't leave your children with a preacher because their holy spirit will be invaded by gods preachers..
Now remember the amount of vicars who abused children over many years if god is here and can see all we do then you think after seeing one child get his holy spirit invaded he would stop it with god being so powerful and all ?..
So another proof no god ..Because all the religious freaks say he is so powerful but not so powerful
after all or his he BLIND?..
And are you saying god give you free will to abuse children? ..
So bolt of lightning to strike the vicar down BUT nothing WHY?
Because the earth made us you religious DOUGHNUTS
YEP we evolved just like a potato
RELIGION IS DYING OUT
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More harry potter style beliefs and jedi just for fun
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TO BE MYSTICAL <<21st century pass time not to be taken really serious
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Wizards magic dragons hug trees earth talking to us but all just a pass time and not to be taken seriously just for fun ..
No one expects a dragon to come from the sky and a wizard to zap the dragon away
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BUT Badecker expects a god to fit him in a place were he lives forever doing what i will never know...Maybe fingering holy spirits
he is a nut when it comes to religion makes it all up most of it not even in any bibles what he says
so he already going to hell foer making his own god up
No i don't care because no such thing as gods ..Talking to yourself in your own brains..
All of your talk convince me that the most vicious atheists came from catholic or kalvinistic backgrounds.
Atheist are laughing from the God of catholics and kalvinists. No... That is not what God is... I understand your anger about the Kalvin type of God... its ridiculous.
They are hardly christians at all IMHO. Actually some of them can be deeply errournous ones that are sincere, but most of them are there because they are lazy enough to not be the way they are.
Have you ever consider you just do not understand God? Just a little? Or maybe you are convinced you are omniscient? Just consider... you might have a flawed image of who the God is ok?
''Jesus says that the miracles will happen according to your faith. You don't even believe that God exists'' So no one believes hard enough to pray for someone else to grow a limb back? Odd....
God may do such, that you will not miss the missing limb becuase of other things. It would be as you were whole.
His ways are mysterious and better than what we want. And if limb would grow back he would have discredit all the dreams of atheists. There would be no atheist on the earth if such a defy of logic would happen.
Ok? He make you dreams come true - you can easily believe he does not exists if that is all you want of him.
You just laugh of the God of catholics. God of the Bible works in everything not just miracles ok? That is not the God of the catholics by no means.
According to your arcticle:
When Charles Darwin introduced the theory of evolution through natural selection 158 years ago, the scientists of the day argued over it fiercely, but the massing evidence from paleontology, genetics, zoology, molecular biology and other fields gradually established evolution's truth beyond reasonable doubt.
The hero on the white horse argument. That is not true. There were a lot of crazy scientologists out there, really a lot of them. You make it to be a breakthrough.
Sadly both sides of the fence have that stupid hero on the white horse argument. It is a straw man.
Embarrassingly, in the 21st century, in the most scientifically advanced nation the world has ever known, creationists can still persuade politicians, judges and ordinary citizens that evolution is a flawed, poorly supported fantasy.
How awfull...... still in the 21st century we require higher standards for science... how awful is that? That is just wrong, everything should be considered scientific should be so because some doctor have said so like in the middle ages. How dreadful..........
The historical nature of macroevolutionary study involves inference from fossils and DNA rather than direct observation.
Observation=empiricism. The article just said that evolution cannot be a science because it violates the premise to be called scientific - it need to be observable.
Do not call that science ok? Please.
You do not care because you do not call it a naturalistic science. You just make all categories of sciences and all of them have different standards. That is what I call Bull Shit.
For example I do not call myself a scientist, because I am not a natural scientist. I am so called social scientist, and I KNOW... there is a lot of thing called science there that should not be called so. I KNOW. I see that. There are many people saying that scientific standards at least in sociology are violated by A LOT. And still I would be called scientist if I would want to. I don't because many statements in sociology and evolution sciences are unobseravable hypothesis at best, and in worse just a piece of trash.
I thinks you are confused about what a god is ?..Let me explain .
You say something must of created all what we see smell
Now your brain it comes to a point were it thinks something out there made all the stars basically the universe and all in it ..
Now when you was growing up you was told many many stories about gods goblins ghosts and what not plus the fact you talk to yourself in your own mind .EVERYONE DOES ..
Like imagine watching the news and it's about politics you will have a debate in your own mind and talk to yourself many many many a time ..
Now because all humans have a brain they act the same in function wise so because you been told stories over many years and the fact we are born to lie to get ahead we make stuff up
we are liars we humans always lie from birth..
Because it helps us get ahead in life..How you eaten all the cookies NO NOT ME lol with chocolate all over your face ..
Money people lie all the time paying taxes and all sorts of things to get ahead
WE HUMANS ARE BORN LIARS..
So you made up your own god because you have never ever seen it or smelled it or touched a god for you to say yes a god exist ?..Have you seen god or a type of your made up god?..
Now i can say love is god i can say winning is god BUT it's not i just added god to those good feelings
in life ..
Now how come those that pray get less of a life than those that don't?
Yes i now some prayers are rich but not many WHY because they are praying for a better life ..
And the last very important point..
If you say the bible god is all wrong why is your god all right?..
Also you say GOD what is it a blob a ball of light for you to say it's not a bible god?
Now my logic tells me cannot be a god must be more than 1 god?
SO WHO MADE YOUR GOD? No mummy and daddy GOD?
NOW if you say it just appeared from nowhere with no mummy and daddy to make it
THEN how come it appeared here so must of already been a universe for it to pop up here ?
SO then your god never made the universe ..
REMEMBER it popped up here to make planets and stars and what not ..
So where did your god come from plus who made it ?..
Now i say science is much better way to find out instead of making shit up..
Also why would i need a god? can you explain why we need a god?
See you put a god in your life WHY.Explain please ..
Science will tell me what i want to know ..I have no need to BOW to no one..
Your a human made by this EARTH just the same as all humans your nothing more special than the next human..
So if i have no need to bow then why would i need gods?.
God is a word used as OH GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE..
And only because we grew up with god rammed into our tiny brains ..
I rest my case..We humans are LIARS born to do it