Topic: Evolution is a hoax - page 73. (Read 108165 times)

This ''His ways are mysterious and better than what we want.'' is actually one of the worst arguments from religious people. Why would you trust god then, if you don't know whether his actions are actually good or bad then why trust him? Even if he really existed, why would I follow him?

All of your talk convince me that the most vicious atheists came from catholic or kalvinistic backgrounds.

Atheist are laughing from the God of catholics and kalvinists. No... That is not what God is... I understand your anger about the Kalvin type of God... its ridiculous.

They are hardly christians at all IMHO. Actually some of them can be deeply errournous ones that are sincere, but most of them are there because they are lazy enough to not be the way they are.

Have you ever consider you just do not understand God? Just a little? Or maybe you are convinced you are omniscient? Just consider... you might have a flawed image of who the God is ok?


God may do such, that you will not miss the missing limb becuase of other things. It would be as you were whole.

His ways are mysterious and better than what we want. And if limb would grow back he would have discredit all the dreams of atheists. There would be no atheist on the earth if such a defy of logic would happen.

Ok? He make you dreams come true - you can easily believe he does not exists if that is all you want of him.

You just laugh of the God of catholics. God of the Bible works in everything not just miracles ok? That is not the God of the catholics by no means.

According to your arcticle:


The hero on the white horse argument. That is not true. There were a lot of crazy scientologists out there, really a lot of them. You make it to be a breakthrough.

Sadly both sides of the fence have that stupid hero on the white horse argument. It is a straw man.


How awfull...... still in the 21st century we require higher standards for science... how awful is that? That is just wrong, everything should be considered scientific should be so because some doctor have said so like in the middle ages. How dreadful..........


Observation=empiricism. The article just said that evolution cannot be a science because it violates the premise to be called scientific - it need to be observable.

Do not call that science ok? Please.

You do not care because you do not call it a naturalistic science. You just make all categories of sciences and all of them have different standards. That is what I call Bull Shit.

For example I do not call myself a scientist, because I am not a natural scientist. I am so called social scientist, and I KNOW... there is a lot of thing called science there that should not be called so. I KNOW. I see that. There are many people saying that scientific standards at least in sociology are violated by A LOT. And still I would be called scientist if I would want to. I don't because many statements in sociology and evolution sciences are unobseravable hypothesis at best, and in worse just a piece of trash.

''Jesus says that the miracles will happen according to your faith. You don't even believe that God exists'' So no one believes hard enough to pray for someone else to grow a limb back? Odd....

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

You already know in your heart that God exists. God doesn't have to convince you of it. The thing that God is trying to do is coax you to be on His side, in favor of Him... without forcing you into it.

So that's where the vicars got the idea from ^^^
God said bend over so i can finger your holy spirit         said the vicar                          ^^

God doesn't have to convince you of it.
thing that God is trying to do is coax you to be on His side, in favor of Him
without forcing you into it    

Don't leave your children with a preacher because their holy spirit will be invaded by gods preachers..

Now remember the amount of vicars who abused children over many years if god is here and can see all we do then you think after seeing one child get his holy spirit invaded he would stop it with god being so powerful and all ?..

So another proof no god ..Because all the religious freaks say he is so powerful but not so powerful
after all or his he BLIND?..

And are you saying god give you free will to abuse children? ..
So bolt of lightning to strike the vicar down BUT nothing WHY?

Because the earth made us you religious DOUGHNUTS  
YEP we evolved just like a potato  

RELIGION IS DYING OUT ..

More harry potter style beliefs and jedi just for fun  ..
TO BE MYSTICAL <<21st century pass time not to be taken really serious  ..

Wizards magic dragons hug trees earth talking to us but all just a pass time and not to be taken seriously just for fun ..

No one expects a dragon to come from the sky and a wizard to zap the dragon away  ..
BUT      Badecker expects a god to fit him in a place were he lives forever doing what i will never know...Maybe fingering holy spirits  

he is a nut when it comes to religion  makes it all up most of it not even in any bibles what he says
so he already going to hell foer making his own god up

No i don't care because no such thing as gods ..Talking to yourself in your own brains..

If you don't like this theory you can try to make another that should be better and not a hoax. But i think that easier to believe in something already created.

How can that not be scientific? It's purely scientific evidence.

Nature has everything to do with the supernatural. Why? Because nobody knows how nature got started, and most of nature can't be duplicated beyond the methods of duplication that nature has within itself. Nature is completely unnatural. Nature is the biggest example of the supernatural that we have.

Now you are trying to tell me that evolutionists wish that God existed!? LOL! They call it what they call it because that is what they wish existed. Period.


You already know in your heart that God exists. God doesn't have to convince you of it. The thing that God is trying to do is coax you to be on His side, in favor of Him... without forcing you into it.



I don't blame you for thinking like this. Even the Christians often think like this. So, to show you how wrong you are, I will let you show yourself. Here's how you can show yourself.

In the privacy of your home or office, grow another arm. Maybe grow two of them, one on each side, complete with shoulder-like sockets and joints. You can be a six-limbed person, kinda like the hexapeds in E. E. (Doc) Smith's book, Spacehounds of IPC.

Go ahead. Grow them. Or is all nature the miracle?

Jesus says that the miracles will happen according to your faith. You don't even believe that God exists. According to your faith, you are pushing yourself right out of life, even though God is working very hard to give you more time to change your mind... and faith direction.

The miracle for you (if you don't change) will be that God has offered you salvation, but you are rejecting it for a very painful destruction instead. It's like a joker who is dying of thirst out in the hot desert, finding a pool of the freshest cool water anyone could ever want, but trying to drink hot sand instead of the water. It's a miracle that salvation is there for you, but you would rather throw it away for something that is destroying you.

You are simply saying adaptation. Nothing in what you say suggests evolution according to evolution theory. If it is simple evolution, you might as well say the word "change."

But consider. Evolution is such a fantastic idea, that believing it is real makes God to be way more powerful than He expresses Himself to be. Why? Because it's easy to look at nature and see that there must be something behind it. It's easy to show that god exists by looking at cause and effect and the fact that we have no cause for all this.

But evolution? Evolution is such a fantastic thing that doesn't match nature, that believing it absolutely shows that there is a God Who is powerful beyond understanding to have made such a thing as evolution, right along with an organized universe like we have.

The whole idea of evolution backs up God way more than the reality we live in... that there isn't any evolution.

Is that proof of evolution for you? It isn't scientific proof, however.

Science is absolutely not a religion. It has nothing to do with the supernatural in any form. Any deference to authority in science discussions is because that authority has done the work to prove their assertions and that work can be followed by anyone with sufficient will to the source, e.g. do the experiments themselves. Religion's deference to authority hits a brick wall at the point anyone asks "why" or "how". Most religious adherents can't even explain why they believe the way they do except with a "just because" or "that's how I was raised", there is no fundamental rationalism built into religion like there is with science. There are many scientists who are deeply religious but science as a group is absolutely not religious in any sense of the word.

Gravity is ''unproven'' ?

Science is a religion.

Evolution = Unproven
Gravity = Unproven
Big Bang Theory = Unproven

While these theories remain unproven to this day, many people regard them as facts because their scientists and their governments told them that they are.

''evidence relied upon by evolutionists, absolutely fits something else better.'' Then they would call it something else, you keep saying the same shit but every piece of evidence for evolution disproves ''creationism''

If God wanted to convince me of his existence, he would and yet he doesn't. I pray in faith, knowing you will bless us as you describe in Matthew 7:7, Matthew 17:20, Matthew 21:21, Mark 11:24, John 14:12-14, Matthew 18:19 and James 5:15-16. In Jesus' name we pray, Amen.

And yet nothing happens, ever. There are no miracles. This is very odd. Jesus makes specific promises in the Bible about how prayer is supposed to work.

There are many similarities in the basic forms of biological early life, and the consistency of evolutionary laws has been recognized. But this is not to say that they share a common ancestor. The concept of a biological species is that there can be no common reproductive offspring between two clocks. Therefore, it is a paradox that they come from a common ancestor.

Through the study found that biological morphology and meteorite strike energy model presents the high degree of consistency, therefore, speculated that biological semina were recorded the meteorite strike energy model, and in the earth's specific environment conditions for germination, and continuously with the environmental change.

Early scientists may be wrong about natural phenomena, but they are not necessarily deceptive, and may be the result of the limitations of scientific historical development.

I would like a God to exist. I was a believer when I was younger. If God and heaven existed it would be wonderful, however I can't just believe they do based on nothing. There is this idea that religious people have that we somehow don't want to accept god deliberately. I'm fairly sure anyone would like a heaven to exist we just don't have enough evidence for it.

There is also this idea of: '' you don't lose anything for believing in god''

First of all, it's impossible to force myself to believe in something and second, how would I know which god to pick?

There really is proof though,

Our own fetal cycle somewhat derives from virus materials because our evolutionary ancestors incorporated virus dna into our genome.

It's one possible theory for why cancer happens.  It's because your cell's dna gets damaged enough that the ancient viral genes are activated

The thing that shoots down the evolution idea is something that you said. It's the little wording, "irrrefutable empirical evidence." There is no irrefutable empirical evidence that evolution exists. All the evidence fits concepts other than evolution better than they fit evolution.

In addition, there are hosts of, but several major, pieces of irrefutable empirical evidence that show that evolution can't exist. Because of these, the irrefutable empirical evidence relied upon by evolutionists, absolutely fits something else better.

Google "evolution is impossible" or any other set of words to find reasons why evolution can't have happened according to evolution theory. One piece of irrefutable empirical evidence that might not be easily found in searches, is cause and effect.

Thanks, man. I think it's a difference of mindset. If, hypothetically, you or I were shown irrrefutable empirical evidence that in fact there is, say, a Christian God, we'd have to accept it, whether we like it or not. Would it be bothersome? Sure, but if the evidence follows scientific, i.e. logical rules, so does the result and there wouldn't be much of a problem integrating these new findings into our world view. We don't lose anything.

As a religious person (I'm talking young earth religious, there's plenty of logically thinking religious people), if you accept just one scientific finding as fact (like the yeast example), then what stops you from accepting the next and the next and the next? In the end, nothing of what your life and personality was built upon is left. You lose everything.

The more you stand to lose, the stronger you fight it. That's why logical arguments and evidence as you presented here will not get through to the people you or I argue with.

No disrespect is meant to any religious person reading this, by the way. I appreciate your perspective. But this is what I think may motivate many believers.