I'm not sure if you're trolling with the "muslims invented evolution"-bit. I'm sure devout muslims hate the thought of evolution just as much as you do Smiley
Ehhhhh..... Google it. Most muslims have no problems with evolution. And you think I do troll? When you do not even google? You just say what you think..... Ok.... As you have said you know almost nothing about the subject...
Hey there, finally I can get back to you. I didn't say that the bible originated from the Torah, but that some parts of it did. I'm not knowledgeable enough to judge which scripture came first, so I'm not gonna.
You don't have to know anything about it. I HAVE TOLD YOU! BIBLE IS THE TORAH. What don't you get. Every word in the Torah EVERY word of it is in the Bible - should I make it bold? There are a book of prophets in the Bible that are not Torah - that is a Tanah - the original Jewish Bible. We have the SAME BIBLE! What don't you get? It is the same thing. We have an additional books that Jewish do not have called the New Testament. You do not have to know anything ok? You just have to read with understanding what I have written......
You said something to the effect of "editing the bible is forbidden". I find that interesting, as I'm sure you're aware that the bible itself, in its over 2000 years of existence, has been abundantly edited? And how could it not? Simply translating text from one language to another requires stylistic decisions and interpretation by the translator. For example, when the Torah was translated from Hebrew to Greek in 250 BC; or compare different bible versions - there's over a hundred different versions in English alone which deviate from each other in different aspects. If this is not editing, what is?
If you do not see the difference between editing the original material that is still there and translations, then I am speechless... I rest my case. There is no way we could communicate like a rational beings.
And this doesn't even touch on the elephant in the room - the fact that the very books of the bible haven been selected by clergymen. Over many centuries parts of the bible have been added or taken out. That's why today the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox versions differ significantly from each other and from the Septuaginta, the original Greek bible (or rather the old testament).
There are more books that have been selected than there were books that were deselected. You can read them all. I do have my doubts about them if some should be labelled as a holy scripture additionaly. But the ones that are there are 100% there for a reason. Have you read the claimed text that was supposed to be holy? They are hmmm sometimes weird. I know weirdness does not mean anything, but in the Bible are 100% proof texts that everyone can agree upon.
Protestant and Catholic versions differ within 3 books I think. Very short books, that plays absolutely no role in the Bible. If you are talking about the translations - yes they do differ, but what stand before you and original text? Nothing!
Let me help you guys out with that one by rephrasing your question "Why are there still Africans around when there's African-Americans?"; "Why are there still lizards when there's snakes?" etc. See what I mean?
No. You do not understand that creationism does not think that people do not adapt. But making comparison with African and Afro-Americans, and lizards and snakes just shows you, like every evolutionist overstate the matter of beings.
Africans and Afro-Americans are the homo sapiens. Lizards and snakes are not only different specie, but a different animal kigdom.
One line of monkey evolved into apes, one line of apes evolved into humans. Naturally, these are just categories we put on top of a process that has been going on for millions of years, so it's a bit arbitrary, but, oh well, it makes things a bit more easy to understand for our stone age brains.
Show me the monkey... What monkey and where. You do even guess where it was - in north Africa. What makes you not find a single shred of evidence? That is just silly talking. There are a lot of sand and rivers... It should be so easy to find that it should be ridiculously easy.