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March 16, 2018, 03:22:48 AM
Yes evolution is a hoax. If man origins was ape then we conclude that all old human must turn to ape physical features. But this was not happen then therefore human origin was human and ape is ape.

I must say - I do not agree with the guy above, even if the first sentence is true, that evolution is hoax.

Old humans do not devolve... Well... That is a weird idea. They are just having a cellular aging caused probably by toxemia.

But on the other hand a fetus being similiar to the fish was proven to be a fraud. Why someone is frauding the evidences? There could be only one answer because something is not true, and that this person who do it knows it is untrue, but want it to look like truth.
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March 16, 2018, 02:35:40 AM
Yes evolution is a hoax. If man origins was ape then we conclude that all old human must turn to ape physical features. But this was not happen then therefore human origin was human and ape is ape.
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March 16, 2018, 01:44:20 AM
unlike evolutionists that deny to read anything critical against evolution.

Anything critical against evolution is usually a circular argument.

Example:  We know the world was created in six days because it says so in the bible.

As I said, they would not believe evolution even if they saw it with their own eyes but when it comes to a stupid story written thousands of years ago, they dive in head first. It's quite hysterical honestly.

If I would saw a convincing proof I would become an evolutionist. You judge me wrongly and Baddecker as well...

But you do not agree with the commandments of God, so not misjudging and not giving a false witnessing against another human being is not your moral standard.

Have I not read any single one of your materials? No. I have read them all and answer them all. Were my answer no - because no? I had a valid arguments that you had not comment. You know what that means in the debate? If you do not have a counter argument - I won. And yet you say I do not agree for the sake of not agreeing.... That is dishonest.

All you could done is strawmaning the slavery, while there are probably more slaves than ever in the history of the world, they are not considered a commodity because we have slaves that are so cheap that they can die and be replaced by a fresh meat. Noone cares.

If I would saw a convincing proof of God I would become a believer.

Reading hard things to read, soltitude, and especially fasting increase the spirituality of a man. Try that first.

First of all the faith is the gift and it easier to have God's mercy if you have been affected in life because it is written that he lift up the weak and throw down the proud.

The more people have hurt you, the more you have favours in the most High, as he is the pure justice, not only by punishment, but by repaying.

I would think once again if I were you, if you really want to meet the Lord ok? He have no reverance for a self-pride. That could be hurtful.
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March 15, 2018, 06:13:06 PM
unlike evolutionists that deny to read anything critical against evolution.

Anything critical against evolution is usually a circular argument.

Example:  We know the world was created in six days because it says so in the bible.

As I said, they would not believe evolution even if they saw it with their own eyes but when it comes to a stupid story written thousands of years ago, they dive in head first. It's quite hysterical honestly.

If I would saw a convincing proof I would become an evolutionist. You judge me wrongly and Baddecker as well...

But you do not agree with the commandments of God, so not misjudging and not giving a false witnessing against another human being is not your moral standard.

Have I not read any single one of your materials? No. I have read them all and answer them all. Were my answer no - because no? I had a valid arguments that you had not comment. You know what that means in the debate? If you do not have a counter argument - I won. And yet you say I do not agree for the sake of not agreeing.... That is dishonest.

All you could done is strawmaning the slavery, while there are probably more slaves than ever in the history of the world, they are not considered a commodity because we have slaves that are so cheap that they can die and be replaced by a fresh meat. Noone cares.

If I would saw a convincing proof of God I would become a believer.
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March 15, 2018, 05:50:14 PM
unlike evolutionists that deny to read anything critical against evolution.

Anything critical against evolution is usually a circular argument.

Example:  We know the world was created in six days because it says so in the bible.

As I said, they would not believe evolution even if they saw it with their own eyes but when it comes to a stupid story written thousands of years ago, they dive in head first. It's quite hysterical honestly.

If I would saw a convincing proof I would become an evolutionist. You judge me wrongly and Baddecker as well...

But you do not agree with the commandments of God, so not misjudging and not giving a false witnessing against another human being is not your moral standard.

Have I not read any single one of your materials? No. I have read them all and answer them all. Were my answer no - because no? I had a valid arguments that you had not comment. You know what that means in the debate? If you do not have a counter argument - I won. And yet you say I do not agree for the sake of not agreeing.... That is dishonest.

All you could done is strawmaning the slavery, while there are probably more slaves than ever in the history of the world, they are not considered a commodity because we have slaves that are so cheap that they can die and be replaced by a fresh meat. Noone cares.
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March 15, 2018, 05:47:07 PM
unlike evolutionists that deny to read anything critical against evolution.

Anything critical against evolution is usually a circular argument.

Example:  We know the world was created in six days because it says so in the bible.

As I said, they would not believe evolution even if they saw it with their own eyes but when it comes to a stupid story written thousands of years ago, they dive in head first. It's quite hysterical honestly.
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March 15, 2018, 04:46:31 PM
unlike evolutionists that deny to read anything critical against evolution.

Anything critical against evolution is usually a circular argument.

Example:  We know the world was created in six days because it says so in the bible.

I was not talking about you. I was talking about some people in this thread that refused to read the materials only because it had creation in the name of the page.

You do not even read evolution materials lol.

BTW philosophy of Nietzsche - of people degenerating is another prove of devolution.
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March 15, 2018, 04:43:45 PM
unlike evolutionists that deny to read anything critical against evolution.

Anything critical against evolution is usually a circular argument.

Example:  We know the world was created in six days because it says so in the bible.
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March 15, 2018, 04:37:35 PM
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I'm sure Nietzsche didn't take the Bible literally.

He did not agree with it, either metaphoricly, neither literally.

Treating the Bible seriously - I mean when you know something is metaphor, you must know what metaphor is it about. Right? Bible is many times need to be taken literal, because you need to use platonic idealism, like catholic church did to find it metaphorical. You often cannot find metaphors in the Bible, outside of platonism and neoplatonism. And Nietzche did not agree with platonism ok? So how could he treat Bible as only metaphorical? He should have agreed with Platon to do that and he called platonism the worst thing that happened to humanity...

Treating the Bible - hey it must be a metaphor because we do not like what is written there - is just a default christian position novadays. Metaphor is when there is a sense, of what the metaphor is suppose to be about. That is what Nietzsche was laughing about. People reading the Bible to suit their degeneration. He was looking at people degenerating and getting worse and worse. That I could agree wholeheartly with Nietzsche. He treated the Israelites that took Bible seriously way better, than some of the silly christians saying "hey it is just a metaphor", but a metaphor of what? Of your degeration and decadence? Have you even read the Antichrist or his so says Zaratustra by Nietzsche? He admired the person of Christ - so he was at least taking him literally if anything, and Christ was the person that took the Bible deadly serious... ok? I don't know how a Christian can defile that.... Our Lord took that so much serious even to the point of the death, for some lube warm people to deny the seriousness of it all....

Why do people talk about something they have no idea about? Especially about the difficult subject like Nietzsche literature? You had not expected for a christian to know the writtings of Nietzsche? I do not have to agree with what I read, unlike evolutionists that refuse to read anything critical against evolution.
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March 15, 2018, 03:56:14 PM
Because it was not necessary for humans to fight with them
moreover, they could have lived in different areas
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March 15, 2018, 03:54:22 PM
Most Christians don't have a problem with evolution.
Only creationists do because they take the Bible too literally. It's a metaphoric book, church fathers, saints and mystics new this, but it takes some mental sophistication and flexibility too understand metaphors and accept that the Bible was written by fallible men who had to deal with knowledge available in their age. Acknowledging this is the only way Christianity can survive in the West. It was because of people like creationists that Nietzsche said that God is dead. He was killed by mental incompetence of his followers. Luckily, there are many religious streams, so everyone can choose according to his understanding.

No... It is because of the people like you Nietzsche have said that the God is dead. Do you even know his writtings? He was implying noone takes the Bible seriously within the christianity, so he guessed that God must be a dead letter. He was talking about platonists that he have utterly and totally hate, the catholic church fathers loved and embraced platonism that have absolutely nothing with the Bible. It is the people you view as christians that are not was what Nietzsche hated. I am fairly sure we would agree with Nietzsche on a lot more issues than you, even if he was self proclaimed antichristian, and I am self proclaimed Christian
I'm sure Nietzsche didn't take the Bible literally. And I suppose you mean 'literally' when you say 'seriously'. For me 'seriously' means 'metaphorically'.  Literal reading leads to a caricature of a religion.
And you are right if you believe that Platonism has nothing to do with the Bible, but it had a major influence on Christianity. Jews didn't even believe soul was immortal until this idea came from Greece and Persia. Jews believed death is the end when your soul ends up in some kind of numb state (Google: sheol).
Btw, I respect Christianity as one of the great religions, but I take it metaphorically. Literal reading makes no sense, at least in our time.
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March 15, 2018, 03:18:24 PM
Evolutionists have suggested that various groups have advanced faster than others. There is no evolution. But various groups have devolved faster than others.

'Tremendous Roaring Scream' in the Minnesota Wilderness






Suddenly a shower of rocks and twigs and branches began to shower our general campsite. My grandfather picked up one of those old-school flashlights that he had carried in with him. It must've had eight batteries in it, read a newspaper on the moon kind of thing, and began shining it into the general forest all around us. The junior scoutmaster joined in with his flashlight as well, but saw absolutely nothing. I do remember it being an awfully quiet night after that...dead quiet.

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This was surely a Sasquatch showing his displeasure having guests,  The shower of twigs is typical primate behavior and this has happened before.  He got what he wanted as they left at dawn.

We have no evidence of such screams associated with the Giant Sloth/Dogman.

And of course no other animal makes that sound either.  What is important is that this was well witnessed and everyone changed their behavior.


Read more at https://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.ca/2018/03/tremendous-roaring-scream-in-minnesota.html.


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March 14, 2018, 03:45:53 PM
I feel myself monkey very often to be honest. And i believe in evolution because not ready to thinking about difficult stuff about development and improving humans.
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March 14, 2018, 03:28:57 PM
This is a stupid question. Perhaps, before asking him, it was necessary to get a little acquainted with the theory of evolution, isn`t it?
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March 14, 2018, 03:20:18 PM
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March 14, 2018, 01:23:23 PM
The discovery of matters relating to the past or the future is partly debated. This is evidence that if the human mind is developing, it is not easy to accept any theory without concrete proof.
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March 14, 2018, 12:07:19 PM
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March 14, 2018, 11:43:36 AM
evolution is well structured and logically built precise working system. why? study the animal life and you'll get why 
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March 14, 2018, 06:46:14 AM
it's only religious people who say evolution is a hoax  Cheesy..

Answer me this then  Wink..

Why do religious peoples only follow parts of their religious beliefs   YOU pick parts of your bibles to follow but ignore all the rest  Roll Eyes..

So who is the GOD you or GOD ? Just think about it GOD told you to do things but you went no god i will follow the parts that suit me not what suit you god BUT what suits me the HUMAN ..

So who really is the GOD you or god ?..He has told you what to do but you went no i will do what
I WANT so your gods are not that powerful after all because your doing a small bit of what he commands
while sinning over all the other rules god told you to do..

Like MUSLIMS the women cover their hair BUT show their PUSSIES  Roll Eyes..
ALLAH said cover your head but show your PUSSIES? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..CRAZY RULES Roll Eyes..

Now religious peoples are all full of poo..
You make your own rules up not what god told you to do but what you decided to do so that makes you the god ..

women bishops not allowed but you decided that's ok we will do it anyways ..
gays getting married not allowed so you decide ok we wont allow it ..

HYPOCRITES ..

RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE CABBAGES..Good at reading and writing but nut jobs..

And the MUSLIMS they are the worst ever in the 21st century remind me of 16th century Catholics ..

The world EVOLVES everyday ..So do religious cabages gods

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March 14, 2018, 02:41:02 AM
Not every creationist is stupid ok?

Show me someone who believes a sky fairy created everything and I will show you a stupid fool.  :/

I have shown you do not know what a season is... and yet you call me a fool.... sighh..... You atheists are beyond reasoning.

I like you either way.

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''Both were to be punished with death in the Bible if one is cought on doing so.''

Lies. When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.  If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

If you kill the slave you are indeed punished however you free to have slaves and to beat them almost to death.

http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/rape-in-the-bible/

You were tutored many times......... And you still do not get it you just come again and again to the same arguments that had been refuted.

Argumentum ad ignorantum - apealing to the ignorance of your audience is all you can do.

It's not an argument, it's a quote from the bible, there isn't much to refute, the bible is full of things like that yet you still believe it and even defend it and because of that you have to deny evolution.

There are some things in our law - that you could find even more shocking. Sometimes in some states you can kill a trespasser in your land. Does that mean that you can kill? No. It is a law that makes people scared to go into others property. That law was to scare people away from becoming a slave ok? Because there are a lot of people back then as it is now that they would want others to think for them. Many people would not mind the life of a slave... wait they do not... because they are virtually identical as the slave. They do everything they are told to.

We already talked about it... you keep on comming with the same things.

You need to know some intelectual rigour in order to understand a complicated concept. You need to know the other passages, and you need to know the context, you need to know that the law is the law of the angels, that the law is not the eternal - using words of the Paul. You must know that the law was the emergency. You need to know a lot more things before you assume that God is behind the slavery.

He temporarly allowed it because there was no other way around it not causing many unnecesary deaths.

Equity is the goal of every law. You need to know that the just does not need the law.

There had to be the change with the level of buerocracy we have to make slavery obsolete. You need to understand many historical and political concepts before you say - hey.... 3500 years ago it was possible not to have slavery. It was not possible ok?

God was doing everything in the Bible to stop slavery because it is ujust, but in that time, it was to early to have an option of a volountary contract and how to keep it in law. Serfs in the middle ages were defacto slaves, as many debters are defacto slaves. There is a lot of legal fiction for a people to misrepresent the reality.

I know many people are enchanting reality with words calling things what its not and can't be. If I would call a woman, to be a man, because she wants so, it will not make her one.

If you think many people that are living with the people they do not want to and working for the people they do not want to - because they have nowhere to go - are not slaves, then you are deluded.

The tenth commandment implies a free person should have his house and his method of transport and of work, and a wife to be sustainable with his physiological needs and desires like a desire for a shelter, sexual desires and food. And not to envy another - because having that is normal and everyone should have such. Everyone should have an option to be free. But sometimes because of many sins people were and are not free ok? And that is why there were passages about people that are not free because poverty can lead to some kind of slavery or even worse things.

Many people nowadays are deluded that there are no slaves. There are plenty. They are just not called that. And you say that you despise people from as far as 3500 years ago... When that was clearly a temporal law for their period.....

About the rape - There is no mention in the King James Version. And you have no idea how important for the society was lack of argue about women. There were a lot of wars over a women in the history ok? Harsh law is needed for unjust and unruly people.

And the affairs need to be dealt swiftly as well as rape - because it might have led to a war. You make complicated matters of political and social life of 3500 years ago simple. It was far from simple ok?
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