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Quote from: rdbase on June 13, 2024, 08:29:59 AM

HUGE SHAKE UP in F1 After UPCOMING Driver Transfers Just Got LEAKED!
-that is the kid phenom Kimi Antonelli - video here by William Blackwell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57vUrxIgApQ
~snip~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_UC8wLDxe0

By the way, Kimi Antonelli is going to be allowed to enter Formula 1 at the age of 17 after a recent change made by FIA.

They have decided to make an exception for young drivers who have proven their "outstanding skills" to them.

https://racingnews365.com/fia-changes-controversial-verstappen-rule-to-offer-antonelli-early-f1-debut-hope

Quote from: rdbase on June 14, 2024, 05:50:59 AM

There was a video put out by F1Unchained the other day on these very same changes and why the teams are opposing them for the 2026 season:

Why F1 Teams Are Opposing the 2026 Regulations and What Changes Are Expected
~snip~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRjdD0AJZek

I have watched the video and yes, I can agree with the possible dangers. Especially those active systems on the front and rear wing make me doubtful as well. How are they going to guarantee there wouldn't be a problem?

There is still a long time ahead of FIA to rethink and revise these changes until 2026 season. I hope driver safety would be prioritized while trying to make overtakes more often and make races more exciting.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on June 13, 2024, 06:43:52 AM

By the way the expected changes in 2026 cars are going to be as below:

_{Source: https://x.com/FDataAnalysis/status/1798719053626036369}
In addition to all the changes mentioned on the source, downforce is also expected to be cut by around 30%. Just as it says in the source too, this means slower cars than now.

However I think these changes will be likely to make the races more fun. Cars will be smaller so overtaking on even annoying tracks would be more likely to be seen.

I'm just not happy with the change in DRS system. I think most people love the traditional DRS instead of this new mode they are going to be trying.

There was a video put out by F1Unchained the other day on these very same changes and why the teams are opposing them for the 2026 season:

Why F1 Teams Are Opposing the 2026 Regulations and What Changes Are Expected

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRjdD0AJZek

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Quote from: emrecemsan on June 11, 2024, 04:21:32 AM

I'm enjoying this season more and more. Grin

The gap between Red Bull and others is closer now as you can see. Verstappen can't dominate every race that easy anymore which is great to see.

I didn't understand why McLaren didn't call Norris to pit at the same time with his direct rivals when he had a great time advantage. I think Norris really deserved to win this race so no wonder why he was the "driver of the day".

Another interesting thing was seeing Ferrari gamble with Leclerc's race. Why would you go for hards while it was still slippy and likely to rain more?? Huh

I can't imagine how frustrated Leclerc was after such a poor race.

Not that Ferrari needs my defense, but I think the track was drying, and what we need to remember is that when there are 20+ cars going about 300+ km per hour, the track is hotter than everywhere else, which means that it dries quite fast, even after rain, because those tires do leave skid marks that make it hotter and hotter.

So, their assumption was that because rain was leaving soon, if they do hard earlier than everyone else, they would be first ones to get advantage, sure maybe for one or tow laps it would be bad, but then it would balanace out and he would do better and everyone would pit and he would be ahead of a few people that way. The strategy obviously did not work, but it is totally understandable why they did it.

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Had some news from Formula Today's channel about Ocon and several others who will probably make the move to another team over the summer for next season.

HUGE SHAKE UP in F1 After UPCOMING Driver Transfers Just Got LEAKED!
-that is the kid phenom Kimi Antonelli - video here by William Blackwell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57vUrxIgApQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_UC8wLDxe0

As with anything you see on the internet, take this information with a grain of salt as always!
Stay safe! Grin

Also remember over last weekend they mentioned about the British driver Jamie Chadwick winning her first race during the Indy NXT race.

source: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/jun/11/motor-sport-indy-nxt-series-jamie-chadwick-andretti

Nice wholesome story to hear and seen a bit to the end of the race, where she beat a field full of men which I found amusing right before watching the Canadian GP. Where she can probably beat some of these current F1 drivers like Lance Stroll (at his home track) and Liam Lawson. Cheesy

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By the way the expected changes in 2026 cars are going to be as below:

_{Source: https://x.com/FDataAnalysis/status/1798719053626036369}

In addition to all the changes mentioned on the source, downforce is also expected to be cut by around 30%. Just as it says in the source too, this means slower cars than now.

However I think these changes will be likely to make the races more fun.

Cars will be smaller so overtaking on even annoying tracks would be more likely to be seen.

I'm just not happy with the change in DRS system. Sad

I think most people love the traditional DRS instead of this new mode they are going to be trying.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on June 11, 2024, 11:33:38 AM

hahahaha so again Ferrari doing a Ferrari thing? incredible it was a GP were everyone can beat RedBull and collect some big points, but Ferrari did all bad and collect no points!

You can see Mclaren and Mercedes, yes MERCEDES collecting 28 points. The more important fact is Mclaren stills seems to be the best team in term of pace in both cars, super improvement by Mercedes but i have my doubts about how much they can really on that and how much can have of this in other races.

What is even funnier on those major streaming services there was a movie which just released called Ferrari with Adam Driver showing how the car company came to be.
Might be a comedy for those interested and the Ferrari drivers watching it this weekend without a race.
You would expect double DNFs from an Alpine or even a Williams but not a Ferrari team who are closest to Red Bull in the constructors at 252 points.

Many are saying that the season is generally over since it looks like Max will get another win this year in the drivers championship. There are another 15 races to go into the season so I don't know where they are grabbing their stats from.

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hahahaha so again Ferrari doing a Ferrari thing? incredible it was a GP were everyone can beat RedBull and collect some big points, but Ferrari did all bad and collect no points!.

You can see Mclaren and Mercedes, yes MERCEDES collecting 28 points. The more important fact is Mclaren stills seems to be the best team in term of pace in both cars, super improvement by Mercedes but i ahve my doubts about how much they can relly on that and how much can have of this in other races.

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^^
They didn't call Norris to box like all the others drivers because they couldn't.
He was too far infront to call him in and past the pitlane unlike all those other cars.
Which as you had mentioned basically cost him the race.
As for Ferrari receiving a double DNF on both cars that is pitiful from the Scuderia il Cavallino Rampante.
You can see Leclerc struggling in the corners trying to keep it on the track.

So we have two-weeks until the next race happens in Spain.
The drivers have their summer holidays from now til then so they will have alot to ponder while catching those rays.

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I'm enjoying this season more and more. Grin

The gap between Red Bull and others is closer now as you can see. Verstappen can't dominate every race that easy anymore which is great to see.

I didn't understand why McLaren didn't call Norris to pit at the same time with his direct rivals when he had a great time advantage. I think Norris really deserved to win this race so no wonder why he was the "driver of the day".

Another interesting thing was seeing Ferrari gamble with Leclerc's race. Why would you go for hards while it was still slippy and likely to rain more?? Huh

I can't imagine how frustrated Leclerc was after such a poor race.

_{Source: https://x.com/FDataAnalysis/status/1799903904735355355}

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Quote from: stompix on June 09, 2024, 08:52:34 AM

Quote from: rdbase on June 09, 2024, 05:19:16 AM

What is strange is after not getting pole position Max's odds are better @1.69x to win the Canadian GP.
It must be due to the one who received pole or the weather could be a factor.

It's because the main force driving the odds up was a total flop in the battle for the grid positions, but right now Max has only Rusell in front and two of the main contenders are back after Ferrari did the unimaginable! So they expect that if the McLarnes weren't faster than Max they wouldn't be able to pass him in the circuit also, had Max scored the pole position the odds would be under 1.4 maybe 1.3 probably.

The only thing that pisses me off is that I discarded the option of Russell finishing in point before so right now that's worthless in the betting.

The thing after pondering about it for awhile afterwards was the engine troubles he was having earlier in practice that bled into the later sessions there after. Upon post inspection it was to do with the car's energy recovery system among several other things.
So I would assume they remedied those problems as his RB20 looked superb in Sunday's race.

I was wondering what the qualifying race looked like and F1 posted about it showing a splitscreen of both drivers within their cockpits during the exact same timings for pole position but could only be given to one driver and that was Russell of course:

Russell and Verstappen Set IDENTICAL Lap Times! | 2024 Canadian Grand Prix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJEcfrbLEVg

And of course the great anaylist of it from F1 Addict's youtube channel:
How did Russell and Verstappen set the SAME lap time?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeuAsWSHjR0

They were discussing if maybe they should move the timings to 4 decimal places instead. Cheesy

The race was almost Lando's again but he was doing so great that he past the pitlane where he could of boxed to change his tyres just like the other 3-4 cars that were able to do it before the first safety car came out after the crash of Sargent.
The shock of the race was both Ferrari's were DNF, first Leclerc then Sainz.
Russell taking Hamilton's podium late into the race was also unexpected but I would like to think he was just giving him a going away parting gift.
Or actually taking it away from him.

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Quote from: boltz on June 09, 2024, 03:10:44 PM

Finally my heart was racing along cars this F1 weekend and I'm glad that Canada delivered the best race of the season so far and it wouldn't have been possible without rain right ? Hopefully in Spain we will have at least 50% of what we had today because F1 needs race like this to keep you on the edge of your seat.

I also think Max won fairly but I must admit both McLarens and Russel put up a great fight in order to win the race but Max is really something different and very hard to beat.

Do I understand right that safety car was released after Norris went through finish line, otherwise it would be difficult to understand why he stopped to change tyres only on next lap. So, Max got a bit lucky with this. But in general, it was great race with some rain. And one of rare cases when we didn't had any red flags because of this. Both Mercedes and Mclaren drivers gave great fight and changes in results is still possible because of investigation.
Right I said yesterday, Perez got contract extended right on time, few his recent performances is just disgraceful. And weekend to forget for both Ferrari.

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Finally my heart was racing along cars this F1 weekend and I'm glad that Canada delivered the best race of the season so far and it wouldn't have been possible without rain right ? Hopefully in Spain we will have at least 50% of what we had today because F1 needs race like this to keep you on the edge of your seat.

I also think Max won fairly but I must admit both McLarens and Russel put up a great fight in order to win the race but Max is really something different and very hard to beat.

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Well, I didn't expect to see a race between a RB and a Ferrari happen with Haas cars around competing for that but...as I was saying two races ago, the bookies were spot on with all those Ferrari upgrades, weren't the silver bullet needed.

So, Max won, Ferrari flopped, and Mercedes compensated on my bets for the placing, I'm starting to get the pattern here. Probably I'm going to stick with Lando being on the podium from now on and completely discard the Ferraris for this, the McLaren boys seems far more consistent on this.

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Thanks rdbase and if there is anyone who bet on Russell from odds like 31.00 then big congrats! Grin

Mercedes drivers were really solid in FP3 but I didn't want to fall for that because of what I saw in Monaco after the same situation.

But this time was different. Russell was killing it in Q2 already. He even had the fastest time of the whole session in Q2. But that kind of an ending was very unexpected for everyone undoubtedly.

They had completely the same time for the pole... But Russell was advantageous of setting it before Verstappen. Have you seen how desperate Ferraris were. Saying goodbye in Q2 already must be frustrating. Sad

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Quote from: rdbase on June 09, 2024, 05:19:16 AM

What is strange is after not getting pole position Max's odds are better @1.69x to win the Canadian GP.
It must be due to the one who received pole or the weather could be a factor.

It's because the main force driving the odds up was a total flop in the battle for the grid positions, but right now Max has only Rusell in front and two of the main contenders are back after Ferrari did the unimaginable! So they expect that if the McLarnes weren't faster than Max they wouldn't be able to pass him in the circuit also, had Max scored the pole position the odds would be under 1.4 maybe 1.3 probably.

The only thing that pisses me off is that I discarded the option of Russell finishing in point before so right now that's worthless in the betting.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on June 08, 2024, 10:02:42 AM

Red Bull had some cooling and rear wing updates this weekend. They are targeting to decrease the bad affects of the track to the car as much as possible. But Verstappen had some issues anyway during Free Practice sessions.

As a result, it looks like a downgrade rather than an upgrade. Tongue

This makes me more hopeful about seeing a different winner again after leaving the Monaco GP behind.

According to the current odds for qualifying session, Verstappen has 2.50 odds while Leclerc has 3.60. Maybe after FP3 this gap might be closer so I think betting on Leclerc makes sense here. He has a good chance for that.

Nice comparison to see what the odds are like post-qualifying so thank you for posting them prior to the session concluding @emrecemsan !

So after Russell getting the pole position for today's race due to a technicality of who gets the timing first if there is an exact result just as Verstappen had done. We have the odds market for each driver as shown below:

What is strange is after not getting pole position Max's odds are better @1.69x to win the Canadian GP.
It must be due to the one who received pole or the weather could be a factor.
Who really knows what these could be in deciding those odds but Russell right after qualifying was done was @3.90x when I checked while Verstappen was @2.25x so the oddsmaker must of seen something that could favor Max to win today.

So will we be seeing Intermediate or the wets come out today?
As crwth had already mentioned, it is all dependent on the weather towards our result for this race.
The main question that could be telling of today's race for this right on the lake race track.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on June 08, 2024, 10:02:42 AM

Red Bull had some cooling and rear wing updates this weekend. They are targeting to decrease the bad affects of the track to the car as much as possible. But Verstappen had some issues anyway during Free Practice sessions.

As a result, it looks like a downgrade rather than an upgrade. Tongue

This makes me more hopeful about seeing a different winner again after leaving the Monaco GP behind.

I did see the results on this one, it's really different now, and also with the weather, it might affect the results of the race for sure. I think they would be evaluating what they have discovered in the practice. I do hope it would be an interesting race with overtakes, hopefully lol.

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Red Bull had some cooling and rear wing updates this weekend. They are targeting to decrease the bad affects of the track to the car as much as possible. But Verstappen had some issues anyway during Free Practice sessions.

As a result, it looks like a downgrade rather than an upgrade. Tongue

This makes me more hopeful about seeing a different winner again after leaving the Monaco GP behind.

According to the current odds for qualifying session, Verstappen has 2.50 odds while Leclerc has 3.60. Maybe after FP3 this gap might be closer so I think betting on Leclerc makes sense here. He has a good chance for that.

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Quote from: rdbase on June 07, 2024, 03:59:27 PM

Started watching the Practice 2 session and caught right in the middle of team lead at Williams making comments on Sainz signing with them.
I believe he was denying the report of him moving to Williams earlier in the day.

Managed to grab Verstappen @1.72x on Sportsbet.io before this one ends and a day before qualification.
So if he finishes higher those odds will drop for qualification which I think were over @2.30x

Thats a nice call, and i see his odds have rose now to 1.8. Even better!!
However there might be some issue as this came in news - "VERSTAPPEN CONCERNED ABOUT "IMPLICATIONS" OF MONTREAL F1 ENGINE ISSUE"

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/max-verstappen-f1-concerned-montreal-engine-issue/10620823/

"Red Bull seemed far from concerned about the lack of track time seriously compromising Verstappen's weekend though."

But i would definitely think it might hurt him this weekend and the odds reflect that as he is never this high odds Roll Eyes

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Started watching the Practice 2 session and caught right in the middle of team lead at Williams making comments on Sainz signing with them.
I believe he was denying the report of him moving to Williams earlier in the day.

Don't know if any of this is truth but speculation is swarming with all the movements in the drivers seats for alot of teams right now.
I believe Lewis announcement during the season is to blame. Wait until it was over to do this so there isn't such much unknown for each team only those who signed two year contracts going into 2026 are known at this point.

Look like practice 1 made Norris a winner. So just waiting for P2 to start in the next few minutes.

Managed to grab Verstappen @1.72x on Sportsbet.io before this one ends and a day before qualification.
So if he finishes higher those odds will drop for qualification which I think were over @2.30x

Cars have their slicks on during this session as it looks overcast.

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