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I'm enjoying this season more and more. Grin

The gap between Red Bull and others is closer now as you can see. Verstappen can't dominate every race that easy anymore which is great to see.

I didn't understand why McLaren didn't call Norris to pit at the same time with his direct rivals when he had a great time advantage. I think Norris really deserved to win this race so no wonder why he was the "driver of the day".

Another interesting thing was seeing Ferrari gamble with Leclerc's race. Why would you go for hards while it was still slippy and likely to rain more?? Huh

I can't imagine how frustrated Leclerc was after such a poor race.

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Quote from: stompix on June 09, 2024, 08:52:34 AM

Quote from: rdbase on June 09, 2024, 05:19:16 AM

What is strange is after not getting pole position Max's odds are better @1.69x to win the Canadian GP.
It must be due to the one who received pole or the weather could be a factor.

It's because the main force driving the odds up was a total flop in the battle for the grid positions, but right now Max has only Rusell in front and two of the main contenders are back after Ferrari did the unimaginable! So they expect that if the McLarnes weren't faster than Max they wouldn't be able to pass him in the circuit also, had Max scored the pole position the odds would be under 1.4 maybe 1.3 probably.

The only thing that pisses me off is that I discarded the option of Russell finishing in point before so right now that's worthless in the betting.

The thing after pondering about it for awhile afterwards was the engine troubles he was having earlier in practice that bled into the later sessions there after. Upon post inspection it was to do with the car's energy recovery system among several other things.
So I would assume they remedied those problems as his RB20 looked superb in Sunday's race.

I was wondering what the qualifying race looked like and F1 posted about it showing a splitscreen of both drivers within their cockpits during the exact same timings for pole position but could only be given to one driver and that was Russell of course:

Russell and Verstappen Set IDENTICAL Lap Times! | 2024 Canadian Grand Prix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJEcfrbLEVg

And of course the great anaylist of it from F1 Addict's youtube channel:
How did Russell and Verstappen set the SAME lap time?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeuAsWSHjR0

They were discussing if maybe they should move the timings to 4 decimal places instead. Cheesy

The race was almost Lando's again but he was doing so great that he past the pitlane where he could of boxed to change his tyres just like the other 3-4 cars that were able to do it before the first safety car came out after the crash of Sargent.
The shock of the race was both Ferrari's were DNF, first Leclerc then Sainz.
Russell taking Hamilton's podium late into the race was also unexpected but I would like to think he was just giving him a going away parting gift.
Or actually taking it away from him.

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Quote from: boltz on June 09, 2024, 03:10:44 PM

Finally my heart was racing along cars this F1 weekend and I'm glad that Canada delivered the best race of the season so far and it wouldn't have been possible without rain right ? Hopefully in Spain we will have at least 50% of what we had today because F1 needs race like this to keep you on the edge of your seat.

I also think Max won fairly but I must admit both McLarens and Russel put up a great fight in order to win the race but Max is really something different and very hard to beat.

Do I understand right that safety car was released after Norris went through finish line, otherwise it would be difficult to understand why he stopped to change tyres only on next lap. So, Max got a bit lucky with this. But in general, it was great race with some rain. And one of rare cases when we didn't had any red flags because of this. Both Mercedes and Mclaren drivers gave great fight and changes in results is still possible because of investigation.
Right I said yesterday, Perez got contract extended right on time, few his recent performances is just disgraceful. And weekend to forget for both Ferrari.

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Finally my heart was racing along cars this F1 weekend and I'm glad that Canada delivered the best race of the season so far and it wouldn't have been possible without rain right ? Hopefully in Spain we will have at least 50% of what we had today because F1 needs race like this to keep you on the edge of your seat.

I also think Max won fairly but I must admit both McLarens and Russel put up a great fight in order to win the race but Max is really something different and very hard to beat.

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Well, I didn't expect to see a race between a RB and a Ferrari happen with Haas cars around competing for that but...as I was saying two races ago, the bookies were spot on with all those Ferrari upgrades, weren't the silver bullet needed.

So, Max won, Ferrari flopped, and Mercedes compensated on my bets for the placing, I'm starting to get the pattern here. Probably I'm going to stick with Lando being on the podium from now on and completely discard the Ferraris for this, the McLaren boys seems far more consistent on this.

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Thanks rdbase and if there is anyone who bet on Russell from odds like 31.00 then big congrats! Grin

Mercedes drivers were really solid in FP3 but I didn't want to fall for that because of what I saw in Monaco after the same situation.

But this time was different. Russell was killing it in Q2 already. He even had the fastest time of the whole session in Q2. But that kind of an ending was very unexpected for everyone undoubtedly.

They had completely the same time for the pole... But Russell was advantageous of setting it before Verstappen. Have you seen how desperate Ferraris were. Saying goodbye in Q2 already must be frustrating. Sad

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Quote from: rdbase on June 09, 2024, 05:19:16 AM

What is strange is after not getting pole position Max's odds are better @1.69x to win the Canadian GP.
It must be due to the one who received pole or the weather could be a factor.

It's because the main force driving the odds up was a total flop in the battle for the grid positions, but right now Max has only Rusell in front and two of the main contenders are back after Ferrari did the unimaginable! So they expect that if the McLarnes weren't faster than Max they wouldn't be able to pass him in the circuit also, had Max scored the pole position the odds would be under 1.4 maybe 1.3 probably.

The only thing that pisses me off is that I discarded the option of Russell finishing in point before so right now that's worthless in the betting.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on June 08, 2024, 10:02:42 AM

Red Bull had some cooling and rear wing updates this weekend. They are targeting to decrease the bad affects of the track to the car as much as possible. But Verstappen had some issues anyway during Free Practice sessions.

As a result, it looks like a downgrade rather than an upgrade. Tongue

This makes me more hopeful about seeing a different winner again after leaving the Monaco GP behind.

According to the current odds for qualifying session, Verstappen has 2.50 odds while Leclerc has 3.60. Maybe after FP3 this gap might be closer so I think betting on Leclerc makes sense here. He has a good chance for that.

Nice comparison to see what the odds are like post-qualifying so thank you for posting them prior to the session concluding @emrecemsan !

So after Russell getting the pole position for today's race due to a technicality of who gets the timing first if there is an exact result just as Verstappen had done. We have the odds market for each driver as shown below:

What is strange is after not getting pole position Max's odds are better @1.69x to win the Canadian GP.
It must be due to the one who received pole or the weather could be a factor.
Who really knows what these could be in deciding those odds but Russell right after qualifying was done was @3.90x when I checked while Verstappen was @2.25x so the oddsmaker must of seen something that could favor Max to win today.

So will we be seeing Intermediate or the wets come out today?
As crwth had already mentioned, it is all dependent on the weather towards our result for this race.
The main question that could be telling of today's race for this right on the lake race track.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on June 08, 2024, 10:02:42 AM

Red Bull had some cooling and rear wing updates this weekend. They are targeting to decrease the bad affects of the track to the car as much as possible. But Verstappen had some issues anyway during Free Practice sessions.

As a result, it looks like a downgrade rather than an upgrade. Tongue

This makes me more hopeful about seeing a different winner again after leaving the Monaco GP behind.

I did see the results on this one, it's really different now, and also with the weather, it might affect the results of the race for sure. I think they would be evaluating what they have discovered in the practice. I do hope it would be an interesting race with overtakes, hopefully lol.

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Red Bull had some cooling and rear wing updates this weekend. They are targeting to decrease the bad affects of the track to the car as much as possible. But Verstappen had some issues anyway during Free Practice sessions.

As a result, it looks like a downgrade rather than an upgrade. Tongue

This makes me more hopeful about seeing a different winner again after leaving the Monaco GP behind.

According to the current odds for qualifying session, Verstappen has 2.50 odds while Leclerc has 3.60. Maybe after FP3 this gap might be closer so I think betting on Leclerc makes sense here. He has a good chance for that.

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Quote from: rdbase on June 07, 2024, 03:59:27 PM

Started watching the Practice 2 session and caught right in the middle of team lead at Williams making comments on Sainz signing with them.
I believe he was denying the report of him moving to Williams earlier in the day.

Managed to grab Verstappen @1.72x on Sportsbet.io before this one ends and a day before qualification.
So if he finishes higher those odds will drop for qualification which I think were over @2.30x

Thats a nice call, and i see his odds have rose now to 1.8. Even better!!
However there might be some issue as this came in news - "VERSTAPPEN CONCERNED ABOUT "IMPLICATIONS" OF MONTREAL F1 ENGINE ISSUE"

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/max-verstappen-f1-concerned-montreal-engine-issue/10620823/

"Red Bull seemed far from concerned about the lack of track time seriously compromising Verstappen's weekend though."

But i would definitely think it might hurt him this weekend and the odds reflect that as he is never this high odds Roll Eyes

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Started watching the Practice 2 session and caught right in the middle of team lead at Williams making comments on Sainz signing with them.
I believe he was denying the report of him moving to Williams earlier in the day.

Don't know if any of this is truth but speculation is swarming with all the movements in the drivers seats for alot of teams right now.
I believe Lewis announcement during the season is to blame. Wait until it was over to do this so there isn't such much unknown for each team only those who signed two year contracts going into 2026 are known at this point.

Look like practice 1 made Norris a winner. So just waiting for P2 to start in the next few minutes.

Managed to grab Verstappen @1.72x on Sportsbet.io before this one ends and a day before qualification.
So if he finishes higher those odds will drop for qualification which I think were over @2.30x

Cars have their slicks on during this session as it looks overcast.

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Dificult to know man, i dont see so much value on motorsports odds like 1.5 when the driver or team selected are not in his best shape like RB right now and with two teams trying to catch them like Ferrari and Mclaren.

The main problem for me in motorsports is, one little thing can fail and make your bet going down the pipe.

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So, not that much has changed to the betting scene, but probably those few tens of decimals are a lot of money, Max has now the highest odds lately at 1.5, you might not like the past performance but it's still Max and RB, 1.5 in a combination might be worth something.

I'm looking at the last bets and it was +/-/+ for me over the last three races so let's see how bad this one goes, I have some combinations I looked at spread over different bookies :
Charles Leclerc to Finish on the Podium & Carlos Sainz to Finish in the Top 6 1.5
Max Verstappen to Win the Race & Lando Norris to Finish in the Points 1.67
Winning Car Ferrari/Mclaren 5/5 as insurance for Max flopping

All my guts tell me to go on Max/RB overkill in this but one flop ruins the day and even an overall win in 6 combinations barely gives you a 2:1 .
So, anyone having some weird bet, combination, some two-way insurance bet?

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Hopefully we can get a practice session in the when they are going to start in the next 6-7 hours as per the F1 race scheduled. Believe it is at 1:30pm EST where Montreal is on the east coast.

But here is what a local media outlet is stating about their own weather conditions.
So they should know what its actually like living there and experiencing it for themselves. No speculation:

source: https://www.mtlblog.com/montreal-weather-thunderstorm-f1-weekend

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Quote from: rdbase on June 06, 2024, 03:28:36 AM

The next race is about to begin but the forecast calls for rain in the region where the track is in Montreal.
So expect some wild slipping and sliding out there since they are basically driving near a water held area named Lac de I'lle Notre Dame.
So just from the name they are racing besides a lake. Great place for hydroplaning.

here is their direct link to the venue: https://gpcanada.ca/en

Today they are having pit lane visit day for the fans to enjoy themselves before the drivers begin their race weekend.

Weather forecast doesn't looks good. It's going to rain for whole race weekend and it's not going to be short rain, it will be for almost whole day.
Probably now I should bet that red flag will be shown during race, considering weather conditions, there is big chance for it. But I hope that race won't be stopped for so long like we had in legendary 2011 Canadian GP.
Weather conditions may be big factor which can bring some unexpected results.

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Yeah the track is expected to be quite wet during the race weekend.

This can make this weekend really fun for us to tell the truth while it is an extra challenge for drivers. Maybe another surprising result might be seen what do you say? Roll Eyes

I would be okay about seeing a different winner after seeing it in 2 out of 3 most recent races.

I have been following an X account named "Formula Data Analysis" for a while. They have really nice posts with detailed information. Here is a post of them about the next track:

_{Source: https://x.com/FDataAnalysis/status/1798330630616310040}

Ferrari and McLaren are expected to be strong on this track, and even close to Verstappen.

I really hope we see another winner from one of these teams to make the season continue more excitingly.

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The next race is about to begin but the forecast calls for rain in the region where the track is in Montreal.
So expect some wild slipping and sliding out there since they are basically driving near a water held area named Lac de I'lle Notre Dame.
So just from the name they are racing besides a lake. Great place for hydroplaning.

here is their direct link to the venue: https://gpcanada.ca/en

Today they are having pit lane visit day for the fans to enjoy themselves before the drivers begin their race weekend.

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Quote from: rdbase on June 05, 2024, 07:12:49 AM

Your talking about Russell right? It sort of threw me off of what you were saying when you said young because it feels that he has been in F1 for over a decade now.
Don't really know what age he began his career but these teams seem to want to get them in the driver's seat even before they are illegally allowed to drive on the regular streets of any city.

Well, he is considered one of the younger drivers, being 26 years old. He started young in karting but in F1, he started in Williams, I think in 2019, that is his debut IIRC. He is to drive for Mercedes until 2025, so I'm not sure how it will go out now.

Quote from: rdbase on June 05, 2024, 07:12:49 AM

Don't know what the news on Sainz move will be for Hamilton yet.
But of course you have those online rags just merely speculating on what his next move will be:
https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/1022075/carlos-sainz-ferrari-exit-next-team-move/
But it won't be to Red Bull:
https://www.planetf1.com/news/carlos-sainz-red-bull-talks-with-christian-horner
That's for certain.

Everything is speculation for now. I think it's taking too long. Maybe a lot of teams are offering something good.

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Quote from: boltz on June 02, 2024, 03:21:57 PM

Sebastian Vettel just made a bold statement that George Russel will be the one who will become champion after Max dominating era will end but I find this so wrong. First of all , I doubt we will see a British driver being champion for quite a while and second , I don't see Mercedes having a title car anytime soon. However , I might be wrong but Ferrari and McLaren will prove me right.

Russell is a driver with quite big potential. But he is just not lucky at the same time. Tongue

Because he has coincided with Mercedes' bad times. If he was the partner of Hamilton before Red Bull age started then I think things would be pretty interesting. In my opinion, he could have been in the title race. Now he needs to be patient until being given a competitive car. But it doesn't look like this will happen before 2026 season.

However for now, Mercedes looks confident as for 2026 cars. It is said they already have one of the best engines for that season with new regulations. My dream is to watch 3-4 teams competing hard for the top. Roll Eyes

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/russell-shares-why-mercedes-are-feeling-very-confident-for-2026-power-unit.3pWLrm0iudY1cyGAWxaUj2

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