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Topic: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds - page 37. (Read 135445 times)

full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 109
Be very careful, when you want to bet on a selection to win, always click on BACK (the green box), never on the pink box.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 109
Can someone explain why the "odds against" have a "+" figure but then when you click it, it switches to "-" ?



Also, is the number directly underneath the line the amount of mbtc available for betting?
Hi. That is because you bet "against".
I am not used to american odds, but basically, if you bet against an event, it means you are the "bookmaker" (the house), so this is the opposite of a normal bet you place at bet365 or 5dimes for instance.

As explained earlier:
Back (for) at odds of +200 is the equivalent of Lay (against) at -200.

When you place a bet "against", Fairlay convert the odds to the equivalent of a back bet.
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
Can someone explain why the "odds against" have a "+" figure but then when you click it, it switches to "-" ?

https://i.imgur.com/8t8EUbN.png

Also, is the number directly underneath the line the amount of mbtc available for betting?
sr. member
Activity: 473
Merit: 252
please do not contact us here via PM.
We are currently having problems and are exploring the issue.
sr. member
Activity: 473
Merit: 252
please do not contact us here via PM.
Asking for ID and utility BILL? Whats the point really? You are working underground, no license at all. To demend id and utlility bill is just that you want to keep the money.

@fairlay, do you start a regular KYC?! Should I be worried and looking for another bookie?
The point of bitcoin gambling is to avoid bulls*ts like KYC and documents.

No.  We hope we don't have to do it anytime soon and that criminals / fraudsters stay away after this case is now public.
newbie
Activity: 51
Merit: 0
Asking for ID and utility BILL? Whats the point really? You are working underground, no license at all. To demend id and utlility bill is just that you want to keep the money.

@fairlay, do you start a regular KYC?! Should I be worried and looking for another bookie?
The point of bitcoin gambling is to avoid bulls*ts like KYC and documents.

I’ve done thousands of matched wagers and hundreds of withdrawals...never a issue..just like any regular or BTC book if you violate rules or have fraudulent activity you are subject to KYC or other request..just because it’s btc doesn’t mean it’s the Wild West..other btc books including Nitrogen do the same to protect from fraud....as long as you are not violating rules or using as a mixer you are fine
legendary
Activity: 1197
Merit: 1001
Asking for ID and utility BILL? Whats the point really? You are working underground, no license at all. To demend id and utlility bill is just that you want to keep the money.

@fairlay, do you start a regular KYC?! Should I be worried and looking for another bookie?
The point of bitcoin gambling is to avoid bulls*ts like KYC and documents.
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
What might have happened is that they have been noticed by the authorities, so they decided to go full corporate, with casino practices and money management. But they are not boasting with ridiculous third world gambling license yet, that I can see.

The terms and conditions seem to confirm this:

If Fairlay LLC suspects any user to be involved in any of the outlined forbidden activities, it may suspend that user's account and withdrawals until the identity and residency of the user is established.


So basically, we have your money and can take it away if you give us pretext. Gambling industry standard.
full member
Activity: 159
Merit: 103
Asking for ID and utility BILL? Whats the point really? You are working underground, no license at all. To demend id and utlility bill is just that you want to keep the money.
full member
Activity: 940
Merit: 105
Have you properly contacted the support with proof of your balance. Most of the times it might be some misunderstanding between the site and the user.
Of course I have contacted them xx - times, finally accepted to be verified with kyc procedure (sending my id+utility bill) iven if they have no license so don't have legal instruments to ask for them... and they still denied to pay because "I have sent documents too late". They don't reply to my e-mails.
Thanks for the post.

Replying too late is not an excuse to confiscate thousands of $, they hold them and the admin should reply to this to clear any misconception.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22050784

There is strong evidence that the user  has committed identity theft, money laundering and document forging.   We will no longer comment on the case or change our position as the user has lied and abused our support too many times.

Has the user placed bets or not?
It's not the responsibility of a casino to suspect people for their income. Police and authorities does that.
If he have deposited and placed bets to win some amounts, there is no way you should block the amount unless asked by authority.
People are turning to bitcoin for anonymity. You should rather operate a fiat casino.
newbie
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
Stop telling those slanders! massive abuse (of what?? only "mixing" or "surebetting" can be involved but it's way along from massive abuse) ID thieft is lie (proofs?! can't see the reason for doing it if I decide to verify! ) if you think that there's any money laundering which is another lie just sentback money to the account from which it has been deposited, saying money laundering then taking these money to the pocket... how can You call it then? and yes You said I have failed to verify because I have replied too late (here on forum You can find your post).
Edit: so I just didn't make camera movie to send You which is abstraction... what if I'll do... what will be next excuse? I don't get it man! You have Your own point about laundering and You won't send the payout iven to the account which they come from and stealing these money from me is right?
sr. member
Activity: 473
Merit: 252
please do not contact us here via PM.
Have you properly contacted the support with proof of your balance. Most of the times it might be some misunderstanding between the site and the user.
Of course I have contacted them xx - times, finally accepted to be verified with kyc procedure (sending my id+utility bill) iven if they have no license so don't have legal instruments to ask for them... and they still denied to pay because "I have sent documents too late". They don't reply to my e-mails.
Thanks for the post.

Replying too late is not an excuse to confiscate thousands of $, they hold them and the admin should reply to this to clear any misconception.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22050784

There is strong evidence that the user  has committed identity theft, money laundering and document forging.   We will no longer comment on the case or change our position as the user has lied and abused our support too many times.
sr. member
Activity: 1848
Merit: 298
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Have you properly contacted the support with proof of your balance. Most of the times it might be some misunderstanding between the site and the user.
Of course I have contacted them xx - times, finally accepted to be verified with kyc procedure (sending my id+utility bill) iven if they have no license so don't have legal instruments to ask for them... and they still denied to pay because "I have sent documents too late". They don't reply to my e-mails.
Thanks for the post.

Replying too late is not an excuse to confiscate thousands of $, they hold them and the admin should reply to this to clear any misconception.
newbie
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
Have you properly contacted the support with proof of your balance. Most of the times it might be some misunderstanding between the site and the user.
Of course I have contacted them xx - times, finally accepted to be verified with kyc procedure (sending my id+utility bill) iven if they have no license so don't have legal instruments to ask for them... and they still denied to pay because "I have sent documents too late". They don't reply to my e-mails.
Thanks for the post.
legendary
Activity: 2982
Merit: 1069
WARNING - FAIRLAY ARE HOLDING MY 1,2 BTC FOR 5 MONTHS - YOU PLAY AT YOUR OWN RISK, IF YOU WIN BIG YOU PROBABLY WON'T GET YOUR MONEY!
I will keep saying this every post... and now I am going to register on SBR forum and avoid others from playing here, any other tips for me please? what can I do guys? sue them (probably 1 guy owning this) will be almost impossible and costly because they have no license... any ideas appreciable. Thank You.

Have you properly contacted the support with proof of your balance. Most of the times it might be some misunderstanding between the site and the user.
newbie
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
WARNING - FAIRLAY ARE HOLDING MY 1,2 BTC FOR 5 MONTHS - YOU PLAY AT YOUR OWN RISK, IF YOU WIN BIG YOU PROBABLY WON'T GET YOUR MONEY!
I will keep saying this every post... and now I am going to register on SBR forum and avoid others from playing here, any other tips for me please? what can I do guys? sue them (probably 1 guy owning this) will be almost impossible and costly because they have no license... any ideas appreciable. Thank You.
sr. member
Activity: 473
Merit: 252
please do not contact us here via PM.
This week we fixed the most important issues we received as feedback:

- odds updating is much faster now
- the hot markets bar is hidable
- there are more information on cards in the sport category
- trollbox improvements
- search improvements
- and many smaller things


Still there is lots of work ahead.

That's good and all but you are yet to address the account creation issue. Any news or updates about that?

We couldn't reproduce it. Account creation works from here.

Hmm.. I'll just email you guys and provide screenshots and all necessary information. I can assume you have a support email, right?

Please try to  clear your cache / cookies or try another browser / computer.  There is no problem on our end.

Ive tried two seperate computers. One which was recently formatted so it is completely fresh :/

Well it's strange. Please try to do something differently. Request a password reset and choose a simple password for now.   We can only repeat, everything seems fine from here.
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 6086
Meh.
This week we fixed the most important issues we received as feedback:

- odds updating is much faster now
- the hot markets bar is hidable
- there are more information on cards in the sport category
- trollbox improvements
- search improvements
- and many smaller things


Still there is lots of work ahead.

That's good and all but you are yet to address the account creation issue. Any news or updates about that?

We couldn't reproduce it. Account creation works from here.

Hmm.. I'll just email you guys and provide screenshots and all necessary information. I can assume you have a support email, right?

Please try to  clear your cache / cookies or try another browser / computer.  There is no problem on our end.

Ive tried two seperate computers. One which was recently formatted so it is completely fresh :/
sr. member
Activity: 473
Merit: 252
please do not contact us here via PM.
This week we fixed the most important issues we received as feedback:

- odds updating is much faster now
- the hot markets bar is hidable
- there are more information on cards in the sport category
- trollbox improvements
- search improvements
- and many smaller things


Still there is lots of work ahead.

That's good and all but you are yet to address the account creation issue. Any news or updates about that?

We couldn't reproduce it. Account creation works from here.

Hmm.. I'll just email you guys and provide screenshots and all necessary information. I can assume you have a support email, right?

Please try to  clear your cache / cookies or try another browser / computer.  There is no problem on our end.
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 6086
Meh.
This week we fixed the most important issues we received as feedback:

- odds updating is much faster now
- the hot markets bar is hidable
- there are more information on cards in the sport category
- trollbox improvements
- search improvements
- and many smaller things


Still there is lots of work ahead.

That's good and all but you are yet to address the account creation issue. Any news or updates about that?

We couldn't reproduce it. Account creation works from here.

Hmm.. I'll just email you guys and provide screenshots and all necessary information. I can assume you have a support email, right?
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