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Quote from: tbone76a on September 19, 2017, 05:38:17 PM

I'm trying to lay a bet against a team. The odds on the red lay bet button say 2.25. When I click on it, odds of 1.75 appear in the odds box. Why would I every want odds less than 2.00? I wouldn't even get my stake back if I won. Does that mean no lay bets are available?

I guess I'm asking how to lay a bet.

When I enter odds in the odds box of lay bet, as a maker/taker, the order doesn't get processed at the odds I entered.

Am I missing something here?

Are there any forum posts or resources that discuss this issue? I should be able to lay a bet at the odds similar to that posted on the red lay button, but it doesn't seem possible.

2.25 are the odds the other user posted. He posted 100mBTC at 2.25 asking for 125mBTC return on his 100mBTC stake. If you accept it, odds are reversed. That's why you get only odds of 1.80. It is the industry standard for exchanges to display it that way.

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Quote from: betg on September 18, 2017, 09:19:50 AM

Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 18, 2017, 07:51:32 AM

There were very strong indications that the user is involved in illegal activities. We are required to take action against it. We gave the user several opportunities to explain and to identify himself. He failed and even substantiated our initial suspicion. Please just ignore his posts.

Mainly: there was no illegal activities just You may put this as "mixing" as someone told before but this is not worth as there's many other mixers if You want to do this as I found after I have realized what mixing is. I had instant withdrawals and didn't realize that I have to play with deposits as I have been moving money in and out if I didn't want to play after deposit for some reason (lines changed).
Secondly: I have explained this many times + I have send them ID + utility bill iven when I really didn't want to do this but finally decided to send it as they have been holding my funds 4 months.
The last: if You want to take "action against it" then pay out my balance and close the account instead of stealing my deposit!
You have been replying to my e-mails until I have sent my verification documents then You have stopped, why did You request all of them when You didn't want to pay me out anyway? how can I get my funds?
Where are You licensed - I am asking 4th time - please give me this information, thank you.

@FairlaySupport, can you please reply to this?

If this is true, I find it rather disturbing and damaging to the industry as a whole. You are well within your rights to refuse this user service, but holding his money (especially if he jumps through hoops to prove his identity) seems wildly unethical.

The user could not prove his identity when asked. We have to assume he sent in fake documents.

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I'm trying to lay a bet against a team. The odds on the red lay bet button say 2.25. When I click on it, odds of 1.75 appear in the odds box. Why would I every want odds less than 2.00? I wouldn't even get my stake back if I won. Does that mean no lay bets are available?

I guess I'm asking how to lay a bet.

When I enter odds in the odds box of lay bet, as a maker/taker, the order doesn't get processed at the odds I entered.

Am I missing something here?

Are there any forum posts or resources that discuss this issue? I should be able to lay a bet at the odds similar to that posted on the red lay button, but it doesn't seem possible.

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@faitaccompli we forgot about that but have added it to our list now.

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Quote from: betg on September 18, 2017, 09:19:50 AM

Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 18, 2017, 07:51:32 AM

There were very strong indications that the user is involved in illegal activities. We are required to take action against it. We gave the user several opportunities to explain and to identify himself. He failed and even substantiated our initial suspicion. Please just ignore his posts.

Mainly: there was no illegal activities just You may put this as "mixing" as someone told before but this is not worth as there's many other mixers if You want to do this as I found after I have realized what mixing is. I had instant withdrawals and didn't realize that I have to play with deposits as I have been moving money in and out if I didn't want to play after deposit for some reason (lines changed).
Secondly: I have explained this many times + I have send them ID + utility bill iven when I really didn't want to do this but finally decided to send it as they have been holding my funds 4 months.
The last: if You want to take "action against it" then pay out my balance and close the account instead of stealing my deposit!
You have been replying to my e-mails until I have sent my verification documents then You have stopped, why did You request all of them when You didn't want to pay me out anyway? how can I get my funds?
Where are You licensed - I am asking 4th time - please give me this information, thank you.

Just give it up man! You got caught. Move on. Stop cluttering this thread repeating the same thing over and over again.

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 16, 2017, 06:09:25 AM

Quote from: faitaccompli on September 15, 2017, 12:25:51 PM

Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 14, 2017, 03:13:38 PM

Quote from: faitaccompli on September 14, 2017, 10:39:09 AM

Ok so something that needs to be fixed is the "return" that displays which is off by a factor of 10. now when the bet is finalized or if I do a quick tab away and then shift-tab back, the return and odds are correct but it does display incorrectly in real time when you're sizing your bet.

For example: I bet something with odds 2.03. I type in 1 mbtc, it shows return of 2.03 which is correct. but then I add a 0 so the bet is "10" but return stays at "2.03" when in fact it should be 20.30. I type in another 0 so bet is "100" but return displays "20.30". I type in another 0 so bet is "1000" but return displays "200.30"

So in real time, the return displays as follows for odds of 2.03:

bet: 1 mbtc return: 2.03
bet: 10 mbtc return: 2.03
bet: 100 mbtc return 20.30
bet: 1000 mbtc return 200.3

etc.

We couldn't reproduce this on a simple binary sports market. 1 returns 2.03. 10 returns 20.3. On which market are you doing this?

This happens on every market. Here's a video.

https://streamable.com/qutqt

Now just to be clear, I'm not saying that the odds are incorrectly applied on the actual bet. Once I place the bet, everything is normal. It's just that the dynamically displayed value of the "return" seems to always be "lagged" in that it shows the return for the previous value in the field. I would think you'd still want it to be displayed correctly.

Also, when I go to matched orders, the "last matched" and "settle date" times are all incorrect. I have the correct time zone set in my profile but it appears the times shown all default to UTC

ok. Thanks for the video. We will fix that asap.

Did you also get the part about the times being off? I feel like this is something that could be easily corrected but I still have the issue on the new site.

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 18, 2017, 07:51:32 AM

There were very strong indications that the user is involved in illegal activities. We are required to take action against it. We gave the user several opportunities to explain and to identify himself. He failed and even substantiated our initial suspicion. Please just ignore his posts.

Mainly: there was no illegal activities just You may put this as "mixing" as someone told before but this is not worth as there's many other mixers if You want to do this as I found after I have realized what mixing is. I had instant withdrawals and didn't realize that I have to play with deposits as I have been moving money in and out if I didn't want to play after deposit for some reason (lines changed).
Secondly: I have explained this many times + I have send them ID + utility bill iven when I really didn't want to do this but finally decided to send it as they have been holding my funds 4 months.
The last: if You want to take "action against it" then pay out my balance and close the account instead of stealing my deposit!
You have been replying to my e-mails until I have sent my verification documents then You have stopped, why did You request all of them when You didn't want to pay me out anyway? how can I get my funds?
Where are You licensed - I am asking 4th time - please give me this information, thank you.

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Quote from: JackpotRacer on September 18, 2017, 04:37:50 AM

Quote from: betg on September 18, 2017, 02:59:51 AM

Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 16, 2017, 06:05:54 AM

We are sorry the user betg keeps spamming this thread. We will no longer respond to him here.

Are You kidding me again? You don't answer to my e-mails You don't answer here, simple question: where are fairlay licensed? I promise I am off from here after get this information. And untill it I will still comment here
WARNING - FAIRLAY ARE HOLDING MY 1,2 BTC FOR 4 MONTHS - YOU PLAY AT YOUR OWN RISK, IF YOU WIN BIG YOU PROBABLY WON'T GET YOUR MONEY!

if this is true that is very disturbing if I need to fear for my coins. Fairlay please explain

thx

There were very strong indications that the user is involved in illegal activities. We are required to take action against it. We gave the user several opportunities to explain and to identify himself. He failed and even substantiated our initial suspicion. Please just ignore his posts.

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Quote from: betg on September 18, 2017, 02:59:51 AM

Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 16, 2017, 06:05:54 AM

We are sorry the user betg keeps spamming this thread. We will no longer respond to him here.

Are You kidding me again? You don't answer to my e-mails You don't answer here, simple question: where are fairlay licensed? I promise I am off from here after get this information. And untill it I will still comment here
WARNING - FAIRLAY ARE HOLDING MY 1,2 BTC FOR 4 MONTHS - YOU PLAY AT YOUR OWN RISK, IF YOU WIN BIG YOU PROBABLY WON'T GET YOUR MONEY!

My understanding of your situation was that you haven´t actually played on Fairlay at all and instead
were using their platform as a mixing service, which obviously isn´t the use case
of a prediction market or betting exchange.

I personally know several people, who have been using Fairlay for a long time and never had any
withdrawal problems (this is my experience as well, but I haven´t played for large amounts
of BTC so far).

I could be wrong, but from the information you provided something in the trail of your BTC deposits seems at least questionable if
not outright shady.

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Quote from: betg on September 18, 2017, 02:59:51 AM

Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 16, 2017, 06:05:54 AM

We are sorry the user betg keeps spamming this thread. We will no longer respond to him here.

Are You kidding me again? You don't answer to my e-mails You don't answer here, simple question: where are fairlay licensed? I promise I am off from here after get this information. And untill it I will still comment here
WARNING - FAIRLAY ARE HOLDING MY 1,2 BTC FOR 4 MONTHS - YOU PLAY AT YOUR OWN RISK, IF YOU WIN BIG YOU PROBABLY WON'T GET YOUR MONEY!

if this is true that is very disturbing if I need to fear for my coins. Fairlay please explain

thx

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 16, 2017, 06:05:54 AM

We are sorry the user betg keeps spamming this thread. We will no longer respond to him here.

Are You kidding me again? You don't answer to my e-mails You don't answer here, simple question: where are fairlay licensed? I promise I am off from here after get this information. And untill it I will still comment here
WARNING - FAIRLAY ARE HOLDING MY 1,2 BTC FOR 4 MONTHS - YOU PLAY AT YOUR OWN RISK, IF YOU WIN BIG YOU PROBABLY WON'T GET YOUR MONEY!

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Quote from: Barnstorm on September 17, 2017, 09:27:21 AM

I'm not getting a confirmation screen on wagers. It's just accepting them when I click on "Place."

Is there a setting to require confirmation?

yep thats a problem IMO and should be fixed as soon as possible

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I'm not getting a confirmation screen on wagers. It's just accepting them when I click on "Place."

Is there a setting to require confirmation?

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 17, 2017, 05:10:26 AM

@Barnstorm Your balance can be found on you Profile page. You can withdraw BCH or sell it on the exchange market.

Ah, there it is. Thanks!

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Quote from: JackpotRacer on September 17, 2017, 12:32:16 AM

hi

tested now the new site and my question is if there is a way to get the bet confirmation pop up before the bet goes directly through?

how can I go to the old version? or is it closed now?

It's old.fairlay.com. Yes we will have a confirmation box again if your bet is above a certain limit, which you can set.

@Barnstorm Your balance can be found on you Profile page. You can withdraw BCH or sell it on the exchange market.

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hi

tested now the new site and my question is if there is a way to get the bet confirmation pop up before the bet goes directly through?

how can I go to the old version? or is it closed now?

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 16, 2017, 06:13:10 AM

BCH withdrawals are available and working. old.fairlay.com will remain available as long as it is used by more than a handful of people.

I don't see Bitcoin Cash BCH. Where do we find it in our account?

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Hello,

Please make a light version of your new theme.
My opinion is that you've made Fairlay much more fancy with the new version instead of some real improvements. I like the old version in matter of usability> These dark + dark colors for BG and Text are burning my eyes until I've manage to see different events.

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 16, 2017, 06:13:10 AM

BCH withdrawals are available and working. old.fairlay.com will remain available as long as it is used by more than a handful of people.

Thanks for getting BCH working. I can now market sell my small amount of BCH!

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Is there some kind of restriction with the search engine?

For example searching "san diego" yields nothing

Searching for "south carolina" yields nothing.

It seems searching for 2 terms is causing a problem? Not sure, this never happened with the old search engine. Is it possible you can just go back to the old version?

As it is now, there is no quick way to list only the south carolina vs kentucky game as there are multiple "kentucky"s, "south"s and "carolina"s

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