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Quote from: Hhampuz on September 21, 2017, 06:20:08 PM

Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 21, 2017, 05:58:02 PM

This week we fixed the most important issues we received as feedback:

- odds updating is much faster now
- the hot markets bar is hidable
- there are more information on cards in the sport category
- trollbox improvements
- search improvements
- and many smaller things

Still there is lots of work ahead.

That's good and all but you are yet to address the account creation issue. Any news or updates about that?

We couldn't reproduce it. Account creation works from here.

Hhampuz

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 21, 2017, 05:58:02 PM

This week we fixed the most important issues we received as feedback:

- odds updating is much faster now
- the hot markets bar is hidable
- there are more information on cards in the sport category
- trollbox improvements
- search improvements
- and many smaller things

Still there is lots of work ahead.

That's good and all but you are yet to address the account creation issue. Any news or updates about that?

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This week we fixed the most important issues we received as feedback:

- odds updating is much faster now
- the hot markets bar is hidable
- there are more information on cards in the sport category
- trollbox improvements
- search improvements
- and many smaller things

Still there is lots of work ahead.

betg

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Hello again. I can send screens to RHavar but I can see that they won't accept anything now as I have sent it "too late" ... they have requested them again (after I finally decided to send them after 4 months denying) so saying that this is too late is another trick. They just want to take this money to the pocket for some reason! I accept the money to be sent back to the account which they come from - if You think that there's any problem with the account from which were they deposited then just sent them back to this account and finish this story - for your information they are 100% legit!
Thanks all for posting here, I cannot fight with them as there's probably virtual company but without any license so we can't do anything more than posting it on forums when we have complaints?

thegreen

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 20, 2017, 06:46:11 PM

We won't pay out the money unless ordered by court or police.

Ha, that's funny. Reputable casinos have exact opposite policy Wink

But as you mentioned court order, I took a look at your site:

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This agreement is made and entered into by and between you and Fairlay LLC, incorporated in the Republic of Costa Rica under ID number 3-101-736435 of the National Registery

So I was planning on requesting the full company / personnel details to give betg a legal avenue to make his claim, but there are no such records of a company existing. I guess it's no surprise as there are no LLC's in Costa Rica. Just S.A. and S.R.L.'s.

https://i.imgur.com/ZSoVedQ.png

There appears to be no problem with their site, as it is working for every other legitimately incorporated company that I have tried.

I have monitor this gentleman’s post for a while...he is definitely a fraudster as anyone legit would of provided docs requested immediately..also his deposit and withdrawal pattern does not match a legitimate player..
And come on he does not have a camera to comply with Fairlay picture/video request that is truly laughable ...He is the only person I have ever heard that has had an issue with withdrawals...I can attest as many others too that fairlay process withdrawls instant for me I’ve done 100’s never a issue...Fairlay is A+

I use this as tech support and CS I ask please stop posting this stuff as it is just wasting space...

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Thanks. It's 102 not 101. We will correct this asap. 3102736435

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 20, 2017, 03:24:21 AM

The user could not prove his identity when asked. We have to assume he sent in fake documents.

So you asked for documents, and when he reluctantly provides them -- you dismiss them as fake, because he didn't provide them immediately?

Can I ask what is the real problem here. You're upset he used your service for mixing purpose? And you feel that taking thousands of his money is justifiable punishment?

I'll be honest, if there's some police investigation going on about the funds or something of the sort -- I'll be a bit sympathetic to you holding the money. But just taking someone's coins because you feel like it is really shocking.

The user was asked to send in proof that his ID is authentic. He couldn't fulfil our request stating that he has no camera ( or webcam or smartphone). We won't pay out the money unless ordered by court, arbitrator or police. This is the last time we respond to this case. The user let the deadline we set pass and abused our support serveral times.
We follow AML laws and therefor cannot pay out funds to anonymous money launderers and criminals .

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Quote from: tbone76a on September 20, 2017, 01:42:17 PM

Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 20, 2017, 03:27:42 AM

Quote from: tbone76a on September 19, 2017, 06:38:17 PM

I'm trying to lay a bet against a team. The odds on the red lay bet button say 2.25. When I click on it, odds of 1.75 appear in the odds box. Why would I every want odds less than 2.00? I wouldn't even get my stake back if I won. Does that mean no lay bets are available?

I guess I'm asking how to lay a bet.

When I enter odds in the odds box of lay bet, as a maker/taker, the order doesn't get processed at the odds I entered.

Am I missing something here?

Are there any forum posts or resources that discuss this issue? I should be able to lay a bet at the odds similar to that posted on the red lay button, but it doesn't seem possible.

2.25 are the odds the other user posted. He posted 100mBTC at 2.25 asking for 125mBTC return on his 100mBTC stake. If you accept it, odds are reversed. That's why you get only odds of 1.80. It is the industry standard for exchanges to display it that way.

Ok, thanks for the quick response. That clears things up. So I should enter my Liability into the mBTC wager box, and not my lay stake, and then click Against.

Liability = Lay Stake x (Lay Odds - 1)

Yes, the stake is always the liability

Hhampuz

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 20, 2017, 03:24:21 AM

The user could not prove his identity when asked. We have to assume he sent in fake documents.

So you asked for documents, and when he reluctantly provides them -- you dismiss them as fake, because he didn't provide them immediately?

Can I ask what is the real problem here. You're upset he used your service for mixing purpose? And you feel that taking thousands of his money is justifiable punishment?

I'll be honest, if there's some police investigation going on about the funds or something of the sort -- I'll be a bit sympathetic to you holding the money. But just taking someone's coins because you feel like it is really shocking.

It does worry me a bit that they'd do something like this just from a hunch or feeling. I'm pretty sure they can't prove that the funds are bad or illegal, probably it is as you say, they are mad that he used their site as a mixer. Probably not the best decision made by the user either but it is what it is. Give him an IP ban and be done with it, stealing users funds is a big no no in this industry. Especially if you want to grow bigger and increase your userbase.

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Quote from: junoreactor on September 20, 2017, 04:37:28 AM

Quote from: tbone76a on September 19, 2017, 06:38:17 PM

I'm trying to lay a bet against a team. The odds on the red lay bet button say 2.25. When I click on it, odds of 1.75 appear in the odds box. Why would I every want odds less than 2.00? I wouldn't even get my stake back if I won. Does that mean no lay bets are available?

I guess I'm asking how to lay a bet.

When I enter odds in the odds box of lay bet, as a maker/taker, the order doesn't get processed at the odds I entered.

Am I missing something here?

Are there any forum posts or resources that discuss this issue? I should be able to lay a bet at the odds similar to that posted on the red lay button, but it doesn't seem possible.

Hi tbone. You need to be aware of odds equivalences. Examples:
Back @1.10 is the same as Lay @11.00
Back @1.50 is the same as Lay @3.00
Back @6.00 is the same as Lay @1.20
etc.

Hey guys, thanks for all the help and quick responses. I was really confused. Appreciate it. Nice site.

Formula for converting Lay Odds to Back Odds:

Back Odds = [1/(Lay Odds - 1)] + 1

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 20, 2017, 03:27:42 AM

Quote from: tbone76a on September 19, 2017, 06:38:17 PM

I'm trying to lay a bet against a team. The odds on the red lay bet button say 2.25. When I click on it, odds of 1.75 appear in the odds box. Why would I every want odds less than 2.00? I wouldn't even get my stake back if I won. Does that mean no lay bets are available?

I guess I'm asking how to lay a bet.

When I enter odds in the odds box of lay bet, as a maker/taker, the order doesn't get processed at the odds I entered.

Am I missing something here?

Are there any forum posts or resources that discuss this issue? I should be able to lay a bet at the odds similar to that posted on the red lay button, but it doesn't seem possible.

2.25 are the odds the other user posted. He posted 100mBTC at 2.25 asking for 125mBTC return on his 100mBTC stake. If you accept it, odds are reversed. That's why you get only odds of 1.80. It is the industry standard for exchanges to display it that way.

Ok, thanks for the quick response. That clears things up. So I should enter my Liability into the mBTC wager box, and not my lay stake, and then click Against.

Liability = Lay Stake x (Lay Odds - 1)

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Quote from: Hatcher on September 20, 2017, 05:28:20 AM

Quote from: junoreactor on September 20, 2017, 04:29:00 AM

US President on Jan 1st 2018
Trump available @ 1.076 at the time I am writing. There's some value here, Betfair has it @ 1.059.

People might not want to lock up their BTC until Jan 1st for only 7.6%.

The 7.6 % are on top of the potential BTC price increase. Unfortunately, the liquidity on
the Back side seems to be gone already. Therefore at the moment you can only
bet against Trump being still in office at the beginning of 2018.

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Quote from: betg on September 20, 2017, 09:38:50 AM

Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 20, 2017, 03:24:21 AM

The user could not prove his identity when asked. We have to assume he sent in fake documents.

OMG

, I didn't want to send any IDs for 4 months because I never did to any casino before just want to play anonymously! finally after 4 months fight I decided to send and now instead of veryfying me you are saying its fake, just perfect-final excuse! the only fake is your company without license AM I WRONG? if not, send me your license information.
Anyone can help? who is their licensor? do they have any? if not please confirm also.

let me give you my idea. why not take RHavar or any other trusted member and let him check if you have send them the correct ID and lets say who is lying. it should be an easy task to get justice here if both sides agree to work together with the neutral mediator

good luck for both sides but I really would like to see this cleared cause I am also a customer at fairlay

betg

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on September 20, 2017, 03:24:21 AM

The user could not prove his identity when asked. We have to assume he sent in fake documents.

OMG

, I didn't want to send any IDs for 4 months because I never did to any casino before just want to play anonymously! finally after 4 months fight I decided to send and now instead of veryfying me you are saying its fake, just perfect-final excuse! the only fake is your company without license AM I WRONG? if not, send me your license information.
Anyone can help? who is their licensor? do they have any? if not please confirm also.

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Quote from: Hatcher on September 20, 2017, 05:28:20 AM

Quote from: junoreactor on September 20, 2017, 04:29:00 AM

US President on Jan 1st 2018
Trump available @ 1.076 at the time I am writing. There's some value here, Betfair has it @ 1.059.

People might not want to lock up their BTC until Jan 1st for only 7.6%.

Fair enough. Depends on your strategy. I am extremely careful when betting with BTC (I feel like I am betting with gold!). This bet was the "safest" I found. I'll wait 3 months... not betting anymore anyway before the Australian Open in January.

Hhampuz

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Meh.

After waiting several days now, even a week and more, I'm giving up on trying to create an account on your site. It's a damn shame as I actually like the UI and everything around it. I'll still watch this thread to see if there will be any resolution to my issue. I have not noticed anyone else having the same issue but I guess it is what it is.

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Quote from: junoreactor on September 20, 2017, 04:29:00 AM

US President on Jan 1st 2018
Trump available @ 1.076 at the time I am writing. There's some value here, Betfair has it @ 1.059.

People might not want to lock up their BTC until Jan 1st for only 7.6%.

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Quote from: tbone76a on September 19, 2017, 06:38:17 PM

I'm trying to lay a bet against a team. The odds on the red lay bet button say 2.25. When I click on it, odds of 1.75 appear in the odds box. Why would I every want odds less than 2.00? I wouldn't even get my stake back if I won. Does that mean no lay bets are available?

I guess I'm asking how to lay a bet.

When I enter odds in the odds box of lay bet, as a maker/taker, the order doesn't get processed at the odds I entered.

Am I missing something here?

Are there any forum posts or resources that discuss this issue? I should be able to lay a bet at the odds similar to that posted on the red lay button, but it doesn't seem possible.

Hi tbone. You need to be aware of odds equivalences. Examples:
Back @1.10 is the same as Lay @11.00
Back @1.50 is the same as Lay @3.00
Back @6.00 is the same as Lay @1.20
etc.

junoreactor

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US President on Jan 1st 2018
Trump available @ 1.076 at the time I am writing. There's some value here, Betfair has it @ 1.059.

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Quote from: tbone76a on September 19, 2017, 06:38:17 PM

I'm trying to lay a bet against a team. The odds on the red lay bet button say 2.25. When I click on it, odds of 1.75 appear in the odds box. Why would I every want odds less than 2.00? I wouldn't even get my stake back if I won. Does that mean no lay bets are available?

I guess I'm asking how to lay a bet.

When I enter odds in the odds box of lay bet, as a maker/taker, the order doesn't get processed at the odds I entered.

Am I missing something here?

Are there any forum posts or resources that discuss this issue? I should be able to lay a bet at the odds similar to that posted on the red lay button, but it doesn't seem possible.

2.25 are the odds the other user posted. He posted 100mBTC at 2.25 asking for 125mBTC return on his 100mBTC stake. If you accept it, odds are reversed. That's why you get only odds of 1.80. It is the industry standard for exchanges to display it that way.

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