Topic: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds - page 40. (Read 135445 times)
September 16, 2017, 07:13:10 AM
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September 16, 2017, 07:09:25 AM
Ok so something that needs to be fixed is the "return" that displays which is off by a factor of 10. now when the bet is finalized or if I do a quick tab away and then shift-tab back, the return and odds are correct but it does display incorrectly in real time when you're sizing your bet.
For example: I bet something with odds 2.03. I type in 1 mbtc, it shows return of 2.03 which is correct. but then I add a 0 so the bet is "10" but return stays at "2.03" when in fact it should be 20.30. I type in another 0 so bet is "100" but return displays "20.30". I type in another 0 so bet is "1000" but return displays "200.30"
So in real time, the return displays as follows for odds of 2.03:
bet: 1 mbtc return: 2.03
bet: 10 mbtc return: 2.03
bet: 100 mbtc return 20.30
bet: 1000 mbtc return 200.3
etc.
For example: I bet something with odds 2.03. I type in 1 mbtc, it shows return of 2.03 which is correct. but then I add a 0 so the bet is "10" but return stays at "2.03" when in fact it should be 20.30. I type in another 0 so bet is "100" but return displays "20.30". I type in another 0 so bet is "1000" but return displays "200.30"
So in real time, the return displays as follows for odds of 2.03:
bet: 1 mbtc return: 2.03
bet: 10 mbtc return: 2.03
bet: 100 mbtc return 20.30
bet: 1000 mbtc return 200.3
etc.
We couldn't reproduce this on a simple binary sports market. 1 returns 2.03. 10 returns 20.3. On which market are you doing this?
This happens on every market. Here's a video.
https://streamable.com/qutqt
Now just to be clear, I'm not saying that the odds are incorrectly applied on the actual bet. Once I place the bet, everything is normal. It's just that the dynamically displayed value of the "return" seems to always be "lagged" in that it shows the return for the previous value in the field. I would think you'd still want it to be displayed correctly.
Also, when I go to matched orders, the "last matched" and "settle date" times are all incorrect. I have the correct time zone set in my profile but it appears the times shown all default to UTC
ok. Thanks for the video. We will fix that asap.
September 16, 2017, 07:05:54 AM
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September 16, 2017, 07:03:27 AM
congrats on the upgrade, it shows at least you are trying to improve.
Now, some couple of issues from my point of view.
1. dark theme - please note that there are colour-blind people, make sure to have a lighter theme with a better contrast between "on" and "against" odds
2. The top bar - One should be able to have it removed by their own option (settings?) especially for the mobile version
3. FAQ's are still not clear for me: do you have market makers or not?
If you do, then what do you consider as counterparts?
only your market makers or also users inputting their own odds?
4. LIVE markets: One cannot understand to what sport is linked to the live market event
(I know ATP and Davis cup is linked to tennis, not sure everybody knows that..)
5. Why not have markets only per event and then have sub-markets of that event?
example: footbal match Manchester United - Chelsea
this is the only event that should be shown once LIVE and not others like Manchester United - Chelsea corners, spreads, under/over 2.5
so many sub-markets and leaving some important ones?
where is the market for the match odds at halftime for those not wanting to use handicap markets.
I really do not understand why all these "corners" sub-markets.
6. back buttons: when not interested anymore in one sub-market, put a button to return to the main market event, in case I want to place a event on the same event but on a different sub-market
7. Refresh of prices still an issue, especially on live markets
When entering in a market I want to place a bet I see a good price.
As soon as I place my bet this message comes up "ORDER HAD NO MATCHES AND IT WAS CANCELLED."
why cancelled and not kept in the market?
If another counterpart wants to do the opposite bet we both should have our bets matched.
another message
ORDER FULLY MATCHED 0 MBTC.
do you think this makes sense ?
Now, some couple of issues from my point of view.
1. dark theme - please note that there are colour-blind people, make sure to have a lighter theme with a better contrast between "on" and "against" odds
2. The top bar - One should be able to have it removed by their own option (settings?) especially for the mobile version
3. FAQ's are still not clear for me: do you have market makers or not?
If you do, then what do you consider as counterparts?
only your market makers or also users inputting their own odds?
4. LIVE markets: One cannot understand to what sport is linked to the live market event
(I know ATP and Davis cup is linked to tennis, not sure everybody knows that..)
5. Why not have markets only per event and then have sub-markets of that event?
example: footbal match Manchester United - Chelsea
this is the only event that should be shown once LIVE and not others like Manchester United - Chelsea corners, spreads, under/over 2.5
so many sub-markets and leaving some important ones?
where is the market for the match odds at halftime for those not wanting to use handicap markets.
I really do not understand why all these "corners" sub-markets.
6. back buttons: when not interested anymore in one sub-market, put a button to return to the main market event, in case I want to place a event on the same event but on a different sub-market
7. Refresh of prices still an issue, especially on live markets
When entering in a market I want to place a bet I see a good price.
As soon as I place my bet this message comes up "ORDER HAD NO MATCHES AND IT WAS CANCELLED."
why cancelled and not kept in the market?
If another counterpart wants to do the opposite bet we both should have our bets matched.
another message
ORDER FULLY MATCHED 0 MBTC.
do you think this makes sense ?
Thanks for the valuable feedback. Most of your points are already in the making or are planned eventually.
1. We just put it on our list
2. Will be fixed next week
3. market maker = maker of the bet (the one putting the offer on the orderbook).
4. Most of the markets are Tennis and Soccer and people betting on the event know which sport they are betting on. But anyway we will consider adding the sport eventually but this will take time.
5. Grouping sport markets by event is eventually planned but will take some time.
6. You should consider betting directly in the table view where you have the navigation menu.
7. We will do some testing and see if we can improve this. A certain percentage of failed attempts to bet on live markets is however inevitable due to it's nature.
September 16, 2017, 07:01:05 AM
Do You have any license? where are You licensed? I will keep saying to everybody : You play at own risk! THEY DIDN'T PAY ME, I HAVE VERIFIED MY ACCOUNT SENDING KYC DOCUMENTS AND THEY ARE STILL HOLDING MY FUNDS!
September 16, 2017, 06:53:06 AM
Just registered on your site as I was looking to place some bets on CSGO. Got the activation email and activated the account but whenever I'm trying to log in I'm getting an error message saying it's the wrong username\password or that my account is not activated. Anyone else have the same experience?
We just tested the signup and could login with username or email. Please try again and if it's still not working please report back and use an instant account for now.
Hello, again. Tried logging in today and it still does not work, giving me the same error message as before. What do you mean by instant account?
On signup you can select instant account. It's much more convenient. You can add a password and email later if you want more security.
Ahh, yes I see it now. I created one of those accounts and tried adding an email address (Another one now), but the same issue keeps happening. I know it's great and all to have that feature with an instant account but for me I prefer the old fashioned way where I know I don't depend on a link to access my account.
September 16, 2017, 06:47:09 AM
Just registered on your site as I was looking to place some bets on CSGO. Got the activation email and activated the account but whenever I'm trying to log in I'm getting an error message saying it's the wrong username\password or that my account is not activated. Anyone else have the same experience?
We just tested the signup and could login with username or email. Please try again and if it's still not working please report back and use an instant account for now.
Hello, again. Tried logging in today and it still does not work, giving me the same error message as before. What do you mean by instant account?
On signup you can select instant account. It's much more convenient. You can add a password and email later if you want more security.
September 16, 2017, 06:45:14 AM
Just registered on your site as I was looking to place some bets on CSGO. Got the activation email and activated the account but whenever I'm trying to log in I'm getting an error message saying it's the wrong username\password or that my account is not activated. Anyone else have the same experience?
We just tested the signup and could login with username or email. Please try again and if it's still not working please report back and use an instant account for now.
Hello, again. Tried logging in today and it still does not work, giving me the same error message as before. What do you mean by instant account?
September 16, 2017, 06:45:08 AM
And will you be adding back the "on/against" column in your predictions? I get now that the faded price means it's against the listed team but still why not just keep it simple?
No we won't add it.
Price is green = On bet
Price is red = Against bet (Lay bet)
Ok, well just fyi, it's very difficult for me to tell the difference. I didn't even realize they were different colors, just that the red looks slightly more faded.
Thanks. We will take this into closer consideration now.
September 16, 2017, 06:41:24 AM
I think I have found another bug.
The stats box of the NCAA football match Purdue @ Missouri states that
519.71 mBTC have been matched.
However the list of positions shows only a single bet of 271.11 mBTC (07:19:55 1.917 271.11
Over 76).
Therefore I´d argue that the volume calculation is not working as intended (it should
be 544.22 mBTC in my opinion).
This happens at other markets as well, I just picked the game as an example.
The stats box of the NCAA football match Purdue @ Missouri states that
519.71 mBTC have been matched.
However the list of positions shows only a single bet of 271.11 mBTC (07:19:55 1.917 271.11
Over 76).
Therefore I´d argue that the volume calculation is not working as intended (it should
be 544.22 mBTC in my opinion).
This happens at other markets as well, I just picked the game as an example.
Note that there are advanced users who only use the API and which orders are never synced to the website. In this case it's the counterpart order from the market maker that is missing.
If there is a 100mBTC matched at 1.91, the total volume of the market is 191mBTC.
September 16, 2017, 06:36:17 AM
Just registered on your site as I was looking to place some bets on CSGO. Got the activation email and activated the account but whenever I'm trying to log in I'm getting an error message saying it's the wrong username\password or that my account is not activated. Anyone else have the same experience?
We just tested the signup and could login with username or email. Please try again and if it's still not working please report back and use an instant account for now.
September 16, 2017, 06:31:53 AM
I think I have found another bug.
The stats box of the NCAA football match Purdue @ Missouri states that
519.71 mBTC have been matched.
However the list of positions shows only a single bet of 271.11 mBTC (07:19:55 1.917 271.11
Over 76).
Therefore I´d argue that the volume calculation is not working as intended (it should
be 544.22 mBTC in my opinion).
This happens at other markets as well, I just picked the game as an example.
The stats box of the NCAA football match Purdue @ Missouri states that
519.71 mBTC have been matched.
However the list of positions shows only a single bet of 271.11 mBTC (07:19:55 1.917 271.11
Over 76).
Therefore I´d argue that the volume calculation is not working as intended (it should
be 544.22 mBTC in my opinion).
This happens at other markets as well, I just picked the game as an example.
September 15, 2017, 08:59:02 PM
Just registered on your site as I was looking to place some bets on CSGO. Got the activation email and activated the account but whenever I'm trying to log in I'm getting an error message saying it's the wrong username\password or that my account is not activated. Anyone else have the same experience?
September 15, 2017, 03:17:12 PM
congrats on the upgrade, it shows at least you are trying to improve.
Now, some couple of issues from my point of view.
1. dark theme - please note that there are colour-blind people, make sure to have a lighter theme with a better contrast between "on" and "against" odds
2. The top bar - One should be able to have it removed by their own option (settings?) especially for the mobile version
3. FAQ's are still not clear for me: do you have market makers or not?
If you do, then what do you consider as counterparts?
only your market makers or also users inputting their own odds?
4. LIVE markets: One cannot understand to what sport is linked to the live market event
(I know ATP and Davis cup is linked to tennis, not sure everybody knows that..)
5. Why not have markets only per event and then have sub-markets of that event?
example: footbal match Manchester United - Chelsea
this is the only event that should be shown once LIVE and not others like Manchester United - Chelsea corners, spreads, under/over 2.5
so many sub-markets and leaving some important ones?
where is the market for the match odds at halftime for those not wanting to use handicap markets.
I really do not understand why all these "corners" sub-markets.
6. back buttons: when not interested anymore in one sub-market, put a button to return to the main market event, in case I want to place a event on the same event but on a different sub-market
7. Refresh of prices still an issue, especially on live markets
When entering in a market I want to place a bet I see a good price.
As soon as I place my bet this message comes up "ORDER HAD NO MATCHES AND IT WAS CANCELLED."
why cancelled and not kept in the market?
If another counterpart wants to do the opposite bet we both should have our bets matched.
another message
ORDER FULLY MATCHED 0 MBTC.
do you think this makes sense ?
Now, some couple of issues from my point of view.
1. dark theme - please note that there are colour-blind people, make sure to have a lighter theme with a better contrast between "on" and "against" odds
2. The top bar - One should be able to have it removed by their own option (settings?) especially for the mobile version
3. FAQ's are still not clear for me: do you have market makers or not?
If you do, then what do you consider as counterparts?
only your market makers or also users inputting their own odds?
4. LIVE markets: One cannot understand to what sport is linked to the live market event
(I know ATP and Davis cup is linked to tennis, not sure everybody knows that..)
5. Why not have markets only per event and then have sub-markets of that event?
example: footbal match Manchester United - Chelsea
this is the only event that should be shown once LIVE and not others like Manchester United - Chelsea corners, spreads, under/over 2.5
so many sub-markets and leaving some important ones?
where is the market for the match odds at halftime for those not wanting to use handicap markets.
I really do not understand why all these "corners" sub-markets.
6. back buttons: when not interested anymore in one sub-market, put a button to return to the main market event, in case I want to place a event on the same event but on a different sub-market
7. Refresh of prices still an issue, especially on live markets
When entering in a market I want to place a bet I see a good price.
As soon as I place my bet this message comes up "ORDER HAD NO MATCHES AND IT WAS CANCELLED."
why cancelled and not kept in the market?
If another counterpart wants to do the opposite bet we both should have our bets matched.
another message
ORDER FULLY MATCHED 0 MBTC.
do you think this makes sense ?
September 15, 2017, 01:30:28 PM
And will you be adding back the "on/against" column in your predictions? I get now that the faded price means it's against the listed team but still why not just keep it simple?
No we won't add it.
Price is green = On bet
Price is red = Against bet (Lay bet)
Ok, well just fyi, it's very difficult for me to tell the difference. I didn't even realize they were different colors, just that the red looks slightly more faded.
September 15, 2017, 01:25:51 PM
Ok so something that needs to be fixed is the "return" that displays which is off by a factor of 10. now when the bet is finalized or if I do a quick tab away and then shift-tab back, the return and odds are correct but it does display incorrectly in real time when you're sizing your bet.
For example: I bet something with odds 2.03. I type in 1 mbtc, it shows return of 2.03 which is correct. but then I add a 0 so the bet is "10" but return stays at "2.03" when in fact it should be 20.30. I type in another 0 so bet is "100" but return displays "20.30". I type in another 0 so bet is "1000" but return displays "200.30"
So in real time, the return displays as follows for odds of 2.03:
bet: 1 mbtc return: 2.03
bet: 10 mbtc return: 2.03
bet: 100 mbtc return 20.30
bet: 1000 mbtc return 200.3
etc.
For example: I bet something with odds 2.03. I type in 1 mbtc, it shows return of 2.03 which is correct. but then I add a 0 so the bet is "10" but return stays at "2.03" when in fact it should be 20.30. I type in another 0 so bet is "100" but return displays "20.30". I type in another 0 so bet is "1000" but return displays "200.30"
So in real time, the return displays as follows for odds of 2.03:
bet: 1 mbtc return: 2.03
bet: 10 mbtc return: 2.03
bet: 100 mbtc return 20.30
bet: 1000 mbtc return 200.3
etc.
We couldn't reproduce this on a simple binary sports market. 1 returns 2.03. 10 returns 20.3. On which market are you doing this?
This happens on every market. Here's a video.
https://streamable.com/qutqt
Now just to be clear, I'm not saying that the odds are incorrectly applied on the actual bet. Once I place the bet, everything is normal. It's just that the dynamically displayed value of the "return" seems to always be "lagged" in that it shows the return for the previous value in the field. I would think you'd still want it to be displayed correctly.
Also, when I go to matched orders, the "last matched" and "settle date" times are all incorrect. I have the correct time zone set in my profile but it appears the times shown all default to UTC
September 15, 2017, 12:18:26 PM
Did we get credited with BitCoinCash? How to see it?
Or is it still in the works?
Thanks.
Or is it still in the works?
Thanks.
September 15, 2017, 12:15:31 PM
Is there any way to opt out of the new site? It's not going to be worth my time to list the 20+ things I can't stand about it. Just trying to find out if there is a way to choose the old site before I decide to move on.
You can go here, but not sure how long they will keep it.
https://old.fairlay.com/
September 15, 2017, 09:00:12 AM
There was no fradulent activity, just withdrawing without playing as I was hoped for surebets but this didn't work in a long run. Did You ever seen verification with video? I don't have camera!! I have made 100's of instant withdrawals as well till now! man I have sent them what they asked (ID+utility bill) why they just don't tell me at the beggining send video with your dog? this is so frustrating, after video they will find something new i'm 100% sure! I will contact their regulator this will be much faster, where are they regulated someone please? they didn't reply as I though.
September 15, 2017, 07:39:15 AM
@betg We told you several times that you need to reveal your identity before we can deal with your request. This is not the place to handle your case so best you stick with our support.
Hello, after few month fight to get my withdrawal without verify I have finally decided to send documents which they have asked for (ID+utility bill) and this was MISTAKE!After they got it I got reply: "thank you. Please send us a very short video where you hold your ID document and a hand-written note that says "For verification of Fairlay account *username here*". Please send us this video within the next 24 hours, so we will be able to process your withdrawal.
Best,
Team Fairlay"
Now I am really p***d !! they are complicating it as much as they can!! the next step propably will be flight to the company and make cinema movie with them. !! WARNING THIS SITE DO NOT PAY !!
Please someone tell me which licensor should I contact (asked them also but don't know if I will get reply) because their site is now so unreadable... Thank you in advance.
they do pay Ive had 100's of instant withdrawls never a issue...send them the video..seems pretty much no brainier if you are legit...Many books do a KYC verification and it is for your protection...Ive had to send a photo holding ID w note to even just buy BTC with a few online merchants...no biggie if you are legit...seems very fair of Fairlay as some books would not give you this chance if they thought some fraudulent activity was taken place..
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