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Topic: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds - page 61. (Read 135662 times)

legendary
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Let's assume  for a moment Bitcoin was a company.

We as a shareholder in this company are hereby voting to fire Theymos, distance ourselves from him and his hyprocrisy and remove all Blockstream employees  from management and PR positions. No doubt the Core developers working for Blockstream are very valuable technnical experts in their domain, but not even in government someone as unpopular as them would be able to remain in their job.

We encourage all our customers to support a hard fork to 2 MB blocks.

We are asking all our customers to pull their support from the censored subreddit r/Bitcoin, from Theymos and from all Bitcoin Core developers, who work for Blockstream and do not support a block size increase. Statements like  "We do not care if fees rise to $100" really fill us with bitterness and anger.  In case of a hard fork we are more likely to support the network that has lower transaction costs as raising fees are endangering further adoption and growth of our platform.
I just want to say that I fully disagree with this:



1) Theymos has nothing to do with Bitcoin Core. Equally Bitcoin Core has nothing to do with /r/bitcoin subreddit. Only very few of the Bitcoin Core developers are active on reddit. IMO you should separate those two things.

2) Bitcoin Core has more than 100+ contributors. Only very few Blockstream employees (like 4 or 5?) are working on Bitcoin Core too. Blockstream != Bitcoin Core.

3) If you want bigger blocks (me too!), you could start by showing your support for Segwit - which will give effectively 2x the blocksize (2MB indeed) in a very safe and properly tested way.

4) I fully agree with your statement about $100 fees. But it is important to realize that almost all Bitcoin Core developers do not want $100 fees either! Just because some extremists say this, doesn't mean that everyone in Bitcoin Core wants this.

5) Segwit is just a start. It give an initial minimal bump to make the fees a bit lower. Additionally and more importantly, it will help decentralized trustless second layers for real scaling like the Lightning Network (LN.) While I am skeptical about those second layers, it is interesting and could potentially be awesome. It is important to realize that it is decentralized protocol with different teams working on it: lightningd, lnd, Thunder, eclair, Amiko-pay. I am personally planning to test LN a bit with regtest and testnet to see IF and HOW gambling sites could potentially use LN in the future Smiley

6) After Segwit, I have no doubt more scaling improvements will follow. I am personally a big supporter of Bitcoin Core, but I definitely want to see a safely planned dynamic blocksize HF in the future too(!) 1MB Is definitely not enough in the future and a properly planned non-contentious HF should be possible IMO.

7) BU will cause a blockchain split and will be very bad IMO. I don't think miners should have the full power to change the blocksize limit to any limit they want. Effectively "emergent consensus" would give that power to 5 mining pool operators, while the costs of a blocksize increase is mostly upon the full node owners. IMO with the risks of "emergent consensus", gambling sites will have to change their required confirmations too. Most sites require now 1 confirmation (yourself included), but even a very small miner can fork off and trick you to get 1 confirmation if your BU node's EB setting is "wrong". Orphans are possible now, but 1 till 12 confirmation will be much less safe with the "emergent consensus" model. Not even talking about their incompetence, lack of testing / peer reviewing, etc. I understand you don't explicitly support BU, but just sharing my opinion.



Overall I think you are experiencing the bad things of the rising fee (which I understand), but your anger towards "Blockstream/Core/Theymos" (which are 3 different persons/groups) seems to be misplaced TBH. I personally fully agree with RHavar's statement today.
sr. member
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Just had a serious bug. Placed 172mbtc bet, but it returned the error. The amount was never refunded. Its just dissapeared from my account.

edit: it got returned after 20 mins or so, but still weird

Can you please send us more details about this.  It's impossbile that money disappears from your total balance. You may check your statement to confirm this.
Was your available balance reduced? This may happen for a short time. We were also doing some maintenance at that time.
legendary
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For the record: we never said that we support BU. We only displayed the message for 24 hours.   We still stand by it.
Oh ok, So you are in favor of segwit since that rasies the blocksize limit.
You have now opened the door to taking positions by posting that call to action.
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For the record: we never said that we support BU. We only displayed the message for 24 hours.   We still stand by it.
legendary
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I dont see this anymore, has fairlay backtracked on supporting poltical stances in the bitcoin community?
If fairlay was running a BU node would they have lost a lot of user funds?
sr. member
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We are asking all our customers to pull their support from the censored subreddit r/Bitcoin, from Theymos and from all Bitcoin Core developers, who work for Blockstream and do not support a block size increase. Statements like  "We do not care if fees rise to $100" really fill us with bitterness and anger.  In case of a hard fork we are more likely to support the network that has lower transaction costs as raising fees are endangering further adoption and growth of our platform.

Respect, thanks for what you do for btc economics
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I support freedom of choice
We are asking all our customers to pull their support from the censored subreddit r/Bitcoin, from Theymos and from all Bitcoin Core developers, who work for Blockstream and do not support a block size increase. Statements like  "We do not care if fees rise to $100" really fill us with bitterness and anger.  In case of a hard fork we are more likely to support the network that has lower transaction costs as raising fees are endangering further adoption and growth of our platform.
Good Smiley
hero member
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$100 fees - that's IF no consensus is reached. You have taken it out of context. Did you even listen to the discussion?
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please do not contact us here via PM for support.
We are asking all our customers to pull their support from the censored subreddit r/Bitcoin, from Theymos and from all Bitcoin Core developers, who work for Blockstream and do not support a block size increase. Statements like  "We do not care if fees rise to $100" really fill us with bitterness and anger.  In case of a hard fork we are more likely to support the network that has lower transaction costs as raising fees are endangering further adoption and growth of our platform.
newbie
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@medelin  there was something odd with your transaction. It should be credited now.
Ok, cois available now. Thanks.
sr. member
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Hi. I can't put orders in at the moment. I get a page with an error message:

Forbidden (403)
CSRF verification failed. Request aborted.

@Hatcher  Please check our FAQs.



@medelin  there was something odd with your transaction. It should be credited now.
full member
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Hi. I can't put orders in at the moment. I get a page with an error message:

Forbidden (403)
CSRF verification failed. Request aborted.
newbie
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Hello!
I try to make a first deposit (8.4 mBTC) 19 hours ago, but my deposit have over 124 confirmations and my account not receive the funds.
Transaction ID: c1c062e11b27f53876bb48ea8f499d9fa8bafd1fed02746422ebb74f69c91c62
For: 1C3D43SKKj1i1kzbLJgT7Y49ZGkY7q5fiU
Please help.
newbie
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Some things to consider when redesigning the interface:


https://articles.matchbook.com/matchbook-beta-whats-new/#


Hopefully you can build all the functionality they have and then make it even better.
newbie
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hi, My deposit was made 16 hours from now, my deposit have 99 confirmations and my account not receive the funds, I send one message for you in your website and in facebook but I not received reply, when I will receive my funds? thanks.
Hi, I already get one reply and the funds in my account, thanks.
newbie
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hi, My deposit was made 16 hours from now, my deposit have 99 confirmations and my account not receive the funds, I send one message for you in your website and in facebook but I not received reply, when I will receive my funds? thanks.
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The argument that it will lead to centralization of nodes  is just a hypothetical one  and even in the unlikely case that this becomes a real threat, it can still be easily fixed later on.
i would say this argument looks like a big lie, if you take calculator to hand
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Let's assume  for a moment Bitcoin was a company.

We as a shareholder in this company are hereby voting to fire Theymos, distance ourselves from him and his hyprocrisy and remove all Blockstream employees  from management and PR positions. No doubt the Core developers working for Blockstream are very valuable technnical experts in their domain, but not even in government someone as unpopular as them would be able to remain in their job.

We encourage all our customers to support a hard fork to 2 MB blocks.



good, but why not BU?  Block size is not the only one problem


Miners or Nodes  should not have any say in the blocksize debate. Nor should exchanges, companies, wallet developers or core developers.  It should be the sole decision of all Bitcoin holders. Consensus among Bitcoin holders can be reached by voting or by the most reliable and well tested consensus mechanism: the price mechanism.   According to our experience there was always an overwhelming support for a hard fork to 2 MB.

 The argument that it will lead to centralization of nodes  is just a hypothetical one  and even in the unlikely case that this becomes a real threat, it can still be easily fixed later on.

sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Let's assume  for a moment Bitcoin was a company.

We as a shareholder in this company are hereby voting to fire Theymos, distance ourselves from him and his hyprocrisy and remove all Blockstream employees  from management and PR positions. No doubt the Core developers working for Blockstream are very valuable technnical experts in their domain, but not even in government someone as unpopular as them would be able to remain in their job.

We encourage all our customers to support a hard fork to 2 MB blocks.



good, but why not BU?  Block size is not the only one problem
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