Topic: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 - Betting and Discussions - page 30. (Read 3205 times)

The International Basketball Federation or FIBA, and well as we all know the NBA right now is applying rules from the FIBA for the NBA next season so the NBA surely is pretty much well knowledgeable about the FIBA, and pretty much NBA players were also here to represent their countries to play,

Well if Jordan Clarkson's case he is a Filipino-American and Chooses to represent the Country Philippines although he is somewhat half Filipino his heart is 100% Pinoy, and truly what he shows when he is playing with the Utah Jazz is truly remarkable,


Those two teams surely have an impressive bunch, and pretty much because of the pretty much well-known players that they have as you can say for me I am more interested in the Canadian team and they surely have the defending champion player the A2 players for the Denver Nuggets Jamal Murray, surely for these team, I am curious on the reformed Dillon Brooks

Well, despite having his back injury Kai Sotto is healthy and given the time in healing he will get back into training soon and with these Jordan Clarkson is said to get into practice aswell when he arrives to join the Gilas Pilipinas team,


He already played for them a couple of times against Lebanon and Saudi Arabia here are a couple of videos for you to watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmBPsZfs0Ck&pp=ygUfSm9yZGFuIENsYXJrc29uIGdpbGFzIHBpbGlwaW5hcw%3D%3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_yI-iooFoQ&pp=ygUfSm9yZGFuIENsYXJrc29uIGdpbGFzIHBpbGlwaW5hcw%3D%3D

Jordan Clarkson is a Filipino-American so he can surely play for the US or the Philippines he can surely choose, his grandmother Marcelina Tullao Kingsolver is a Filipina  from Bacolor, Pampanga, Philippines while his mother Annette Tullao Davis was a Filipina American and his father was Mike Clarkson Both his parents served in the United States Air Force, surely we all know why he become Filipino


I agree but this Iran team is not a slack aswell I just wish that Kai Sotto and Jordan Clarkson will surely be ready in aiding the country with so much support when they play Iran in the real game and well after seeing this game I was really excited in watching the game, but surely it will have to wait,


I surely doubt it, there are so many teams that are likely great and even though I am a Filipino those teams that would go to the qualifier last time were really insane so there is a lot of good competition we are talking about here, and don't forget the other teams also have their NBA bigs on the mix, for me this is a surely great they only got 18 days to prepare and practice and to get chemistry for the team so yeah this will surely get to Kai Sotto and Jordan Clarkson as they already played with the Philippine team last time,

First time for FIBA but 2nd time playing for the Philippines. Jordan Clarkson was there at the 2018 Asian Games where he helped the Philippines to achieve 5th place which is also the highest rank they received after a long time.

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Speaking of Utah Jazz players, here is another one that is wreaking havoc in FIBA.
https://twitter.com/FIBAWC/status/1687730436015890432?s=20
It is true. The USA may be the favorite to win the tournament but I bet they will have a tough time defeating other countries especially those who are on top of the Eurobasket last 2022.

I believe in this 2023 world cup will be interesting!
There are several teams that are balanced.

I've been looking at every country roster, but i'm surprised with Canada and Australia, apparently in this world cup they have an excellent squad.

Well, that is his specialty in trash talking so I will not be surprised if he can accumulate a disaster in the FIBA but if he can surely use his physicality in most match up's then maybe he would rather have the humility in taking into consideration his action before doing it, I have seen his interviews as a Houston Rocket player just now, he looks nicer? Humble? maybe this is a good start the Houston Rockets have given him a new opportunity to strive so he needs to use this not in bad-mouthing others but to show his old teams that he can do better this time, I am surely for the change and everybody can surely change and I think Brooks really need to reflect what he has done wrong when he was on the Memphis Grizzlies and apply a positive one when playing with the Houston Rockets this time,


For sure they are sending guys that are less experienced, well maybe the NBA season is just around the corner and they can not afford some injuries along the way we can surely say this is 1 part of why is that, and maybe they are just making those rookies get more experience and the FIBA world cup is a great experience or another experience for them representing their country, for sure other players in other country want to represent their country that they are allowed to perform on FIBA,  like Luka Doncic in Slovenia, Dillon Brook, Jamal Murray, Shai Gilgeous Alexander, Kelly Olynyk and Dwight Powell in Canada, and lastly Jordan Clarkson in the Philippines,


That was sad to hear but hopefully, he is doing fine, I surely remember him back when he is playing against the Philippines nobody can stop him for sure well the Philippines back then doesn't have a top Unicorn on their side back then but right now they got Kai Sotto on their bench and they now have a good rotation going into play,

That was a display of sweet shooting from the Philippines. But this is not the best Iran team if I'm not mistaken? This is Iran B and no Haddadi, which seems to be the tormentor of Philippines team if I'm not mistaken. But they have improved a lot though and now they have Jordan Clarkson to boot.

Yes, it seems that Philippines as host wanted to proved something and even if they are not fielding their best players, they have like a deep bench that can still play very good. So it's interesting how the Philippines will go on FIBA 2023, maybe they will get a W here.

@wheelz1200 - Yes, this is not the first time that Clarkson is going to play with Philippines, if I'm not mistaken, there is still one NBA player that should play as well in this tournament.

I read through this entire thread and honestly was trying to see what this tourney was all about.  Was shocked to see Jordan Clarkson plays for the Philippines.  Has he always played for them in international play?  I'm a huge fan of his play in the NBA but just always thought he was of US dissent. He reminds me of Lou Williams career.  6th man type but who.could star on a younger type team.

Hilarious.
But he cannot do those dirty work at FIBA because he will definitely be called by the referees. They are not soft out there when it comes to the rules and they are strict when it comes to trash-talking and bad moves.
I don't think Jamal Murray will play, I have not seen a confirmation yet if he play or not but maybe soon we will get an answer about that.
But, they do have SGA so I think Canada is in good hands.

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And  surely the USA which consists only of NBA players is surely a power team in its own right sure they didn't put some veterans in there and consist only of 12 players while the other teams got almost consist of 20 to 22 teams if I am right,
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12 young players is all they need, maybe they will just add some bench players to complete that number. But even if the players they registered now are young, they are mostly effective when it comes to offense and defense. It's a good thing, they can also play at a high level of speed.

Greece is strong even without Giannis, defeating Slovenia in that exhibition match was an amazing performance for them.
Here's the news about Kai Sotto's chance to play in FIBA.
https://www.manilatimes.net/2023/08/05/sports/kai-sotto-reaffirms-commitment-for-gilas/1904009
I didn't know he was hurt. Well, this is good news since they put a timeline on when he will be back, let's see if he can play on time.

Sorry but I am biased with the Philippines yeah I really don't want to be regarding that this is a Sport where everything can surely happen but As I watch the games of the Philippines against Iran I was quite amazed at what the Philippines can do now on what I remember back then here is the video of the friendly match for the Philippines VS Iran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbDGSnED7ZA

And against Senegal, I really think that the Philippines did great in this match and this is without Kai Sotto, Jordan Clarkson, and Scottie Thompson, pretty much the Philippines team is making progress in their training for sure they will make a big impact when Kai Sotto, Jordan Clarkson would play with them, here is the Philippines VS Senegal game, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdIux7z8r3w

Today will be another set of friendly matches, also the rematch of 2 days ago, Greece vs Slovenia ( I guess this time in Greece since it stands in front).

Japan is also playing in 2 hours, it's their second game vs NZ. Since both are world cup participants you can expect a nice game as well.
Finland tests vs Lithuania tonight, it's interesting to watch from a German point of view since the Fins are in our group. Lithuania in their first test had a tough match against another participant with Georgia, losing a 18 point lead in the 4th just to get the tie with possession and win it on the buzzer.

Another interesting match will be Italy vs Turkey. Both are young teams that are hungry and Italy play a good role in the world cup if things fit together. Unfortunately Turkey didn't qualify.

I love those friendlies before big tournaments! Makes the wait short and brings some excitement.

Unfortunately he will not be able to play in the FIBA world cup due to an injury.

You can read the full story here : 2023 FIBA World Cup: Hamed Haddadi could miss tournament for Iran due to injury


And besides, he is already 38 years, so the recovery period might take long for him and they don't want to risk a Hamed Haddadi that is not fully healed to play with the younger and more physical guys.

Even the NBA knows that they are sending inexperience players in the FIBA world cup 2023.

We can read this interesting article below from their website.

https://www.nba.com/news/usa-basketball-roster-2023-fiba-world-cup


However, despite that, they are still the number 1 favorite to win. I'm thinking, aren't the bookies just making them overvalued as they know the bettors will bite on the odds? When we talk about "Team USA," it's a popular team and they have more gold compared to other teams. This popularity might influence the odds and make them seem more favorable than they actually are.

His trash talk would not work because this is an international competition, and teams are highly competitive. Players like Luka and the current number 1 pick, Victor Wembanyama, even said that the NBA is less physical compared to their leagues before. So, Brooks should not focus on his trash talk; instead, he should play hard and physical to live up to the expectations of the fans.

The current lineup of Canada has some players who are superstars in the NBA. However, I'm looking at the team chemistry more than the individual players on the team. With that said, I stick with the more consistent teams, particularly Spain (despite less Gasol).

Look who's playing for Canada, it was Dillon "Dynasty" Brooks for sure Canada needs him to trash talk again for sure, but as a teammate Shai-Gilgeous Alexander, Kelly Olynyk, and Jamal Murray, this could become a power team, because the Scrubb siblings are not slack at all,

And  surely the USA which consists only of NBA players is surely a power team in its own right sure they didn't put some veterans in there and consist only of 12 players while the other teams got almost consist of 20 to 22 teams if I am right,

And for Iran, I will surely be surprised if I could see the Immortal Hamed Haddadi playing at FIBA that was insane as Lebron James same age, and if he could still bust a move back then I surely remember his insane height has become a problem for the Philippines back then, this will be insane, but surely if Kai Sotto and Jordan Clarkson is there playing there will  be a fighting chance, now that the NBA is making progress on October 2024 this will be a great alternative for us to make the topic and surely making bets, and support our favorite team,

Sure. Will note that and will add it later on. Some countries are still unsure about their roster because players are not yet responding if they will play or not. Like Clarkson, there are rumors that he won't play last week I think, but it is not confirmed that he will play, it is Kai Sotto who is not yet confirmed.

I like these picks. You didn't add the strongest team which is USA and Canada and I would like to see that too. Make the FIBA more competitive by having another champion.
It will still depend on their Groups though, because there's a chance they will be eliminated there.
That's true. Slovenia can be a wild card here. Although they were defeated by Greece yesterday, this is not yet the true game where Luka magic will be different. That guy's impact for the team is in a whole different level.

I don't think any of those 3 can win to be honest. Australia is good but not great.The NBA players on the team are old or very young. Spain is solid in Europe but the golden generation is gone. About France, ok they have Gobert for defence and rebounds but who else? Batum is old, Fournier can shoot, but thats it's it, Ntilikina has no impact in the NBA yet. The rest are Euroleague players.

I saw France yesterday against in their first test match against Montenegro and they didn't look impressive. Of course they just gathered and it's the first match but I am not impressed of what I saw.

I would like to mention Slovenia, even though they lot their first test yesterday against a Giannis less Greece yesterday.
Luka can make the difference against any team, so they can be a dark horse as well.

There was a lot of hype on Kai Sotto when he plays with the Magic on the Summer league, and I think the kid can still improved. And there was Jordan Clarkson as well who will be playing for the host Team Philippines if I'm not mistaken.

But even if the US is going to send like not the best team, I think they can still win this tournament and I do agree that Canada will be the second favorite specially with the like of SGA and Jamal Murray.

Very interesting to see this World Cup of Basketball as many are seeing this tournament to be.
Many NBA players won't be playing on their countries respective teams so the odds would be reflective of this.
Because then USA would be closer to 1.01x if you have Lebron or Damian Lillard playing against compared g-league players from the country opponents.
Might be some players who want to keep in form playing in these brackets so would also be interesting to see a list of them on here and which teams they will be playing on.
Could you make this happen @danherbias07 ?
Such as Kai Sotto will be playing in this FIBA tournament for Team Philippines? Now that would be great for one of the host nations to have an actual NBA player on their team roster available to play.

They are the best team in this tournament, but the USA did not send their best players, unlike before when they made sure they would win the competition. With the chemistry and experience of other national teams, they have a better advantage compared to the USA. The USA's advantage obviously lies in their talent, but you know, in crucial games, experience is more helpful than talent as it's about making the right decisions.

I'm thinking maybe one of the 3 will win the FIBA world cup.

1-Australia
2-France
3-Spain

Yes, I also take notice that Canada will have a NBA players in their list, so I wouldn't be surprised if they are in the second spot as far as the favorites goes. So and with that kind of lineup, yeah for sure they will give the Americans a run for their money with this kind of lineup.

However, I think the Americans can and will win this tournament, it's not gonna be easy though.

So for me, there could be some surprises on other brackets, specially if host country plays and they are the underdog.