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Quote from: iv4n on March 05, 2022, 04:51:34 AM

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Quote from: Odusko on March 05, 2022, 03:07:54 AM

This FIFA involvement in political matters may further lead to more crisis as Vladimir Putin has announced that Russia will play in the 2022 FIFA world cup or there will not be the world cup at all, this speaks to further threats to global peace. The football tournament is aimed at unifying the world and promoting peace but getting involved in political war matters as sensitive as this will deter global peace.

How can we verify this information you have put out ? Because these are strong words capable of causing more confusion to the world. Any link to that announcement containing those words should be provided please so readers. We know Putin to be capable of causing more troubles as he has not given up yet despite the sanctions. Can we see the link .

This is impossible! I tried to find something about this and couldn't, it looks like this is just another lie in a row! I've been talking about it for days, this propaganda war is amazing! So much lies from all sides, so much false information is placed in all possible ways that a normal person can no longer recognize what is real and what is not!
Another way to portray a dictator in the worst possible light, a person who wants to ruin the World Cup, wow! Now let's all hate him, he's inhuman! Let's face it, I don't support Putin, I don't like politics and their games, and even less I like to read such nonsense that obviously only serves as a tool in war! This is a good example of how the sport is directly involved in politics and war! With fake news and provocations! And in an indirect way, all the rest of us who love and follow sports!

@ iv4n Yes you are right that there are lies in sports just like we have these allegation and accusation about Putin threat that Russia will forcefully play in the world cup, this is yet to be proved with the link I asked for. Likewise also fans of football teams especially make lies and hype their teams even in the face of glaring impossibility. They blindly support their teams with likes "because they are fans and they don't need to say the truth " Shocked

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Quote from: avikz on March 04, 2022, 12:31:18 AM

Western countries are eager to impose ban on Russia in whatsoever manner possible! This sports ban is just a part of it! There are obviously many countries who are not willing to play with Russia or keep any association with them at this moment. But do you think Russia deserves this?

If invading to Ukraine is the reason, US should have been banned from the world for invading Iraq and Afghanistan. Look at those countries now, they have completely collapsed due to the aggression from US which was initiated in the name of war against terrorism. Today's Russian attack on Ukraine is happening as NATO wanted to include Ukraine in their group despite not being eligible.

This is really unfair to Russia.
The decision not to include Russia in the World Cup is purely a political decision of America and its allies. even though we know that FIFA has always said that politics should not interfere in this football. Maybe this applies only to them, and in their favor because FIFA is under their control.

I feel for the citizens of Russia they never want war but are now the most hit by this war with lots of sanctions and bans in international support communities. The world football federation body may have hard it hard on Russia but then that is the bad side of war everybody loses. Let's hope things get better before the kick-off of the 2022 game.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on March 05, 2022, 04:34:10 AM

Quote from: Odusko on March 05, 2022, 03:07:54 AM

This FIFA involvement in political matters may further lead to more crisis as Vladimir Putin has announced that Russia will play in the 2022 FIFA world cup or there will not be the world cup at all, this speaks to further threats to global peace. The football tournament is aimed at unifying the world and promoting peace but getting involved in political war matters as sensitive as this will deter global peace.

How can we verify this information you have put out ? Because these are strong words capable of causing more confusion to the world. Any link to that announcement containing those words should be provided please so readers. We know Putin to be capable of causing more troubles as he has not given up yet despite the sanctions. Can we see the link .

This is impossible! I tried to find something about this and couldn't, it looks like this is just another lie in a row! I've been talking about it for days, this propaganda war is amazing! So much lies from all sides, so much false information is placed in all possible ways that a normal person can no longer recognize what is real and what is not!
Another way to portray a dictator in the worst possible light, a person who wants to ruin the World Cup, wow! Now let's all hate him, he's inhuman! Let's face it, I don't support Putin, I don't like politics and their games, and even less I like to read such nonsense that obviously only serves as a tool in war! This is a good example of how the sport is directly involved in politics and war! With fake news and provocations! And in an indirect way, all the rest of us who love and follow sports!

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Quote from: Odusko on March 05, 2022, 03:07:54 AM

This FIFA involvement in political matters may further lead to more crisis as Vladimir Putin has announced that Russia will play in the 2022 FIFA world cup or there will not be the world cup at all, this speaks to further threats to global peace. The football tournament is aimed at unifying the world and promoting peace but getting involved in political war matters as sensitive as this will deter global peace.

How can we verify this information you have put out ? Because these are strong words capable of causing more confusion to the world. Any link to that announcement containing those words should be provided please so readers. We know Putin to be capable of causing more troubles as he has not given up yet despite the sanctions. Can we see the link .

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Quote from: ryzaadit on March 04, 2022, 03:58:24 PM

Quote from: avikz on March 04, 2022, 12:31:18 AM

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I guess no.

The sport should not follow any kind of politic, while they already got economy sanction but we still ban their sport access ~LOL. I still remember while some football player using a word after the match "Pray for Palestine" and guess what.

FIFA responding should not use sport as politic.

This FIFA involvement in political matters may further lead to more crisis as Vladimir Putin has announced that Russia will play in the 2022 FIFA world cup or there will not be the world cup at all, this speaks to further threats to global peace. The football tournament is aimed at unifying the world and promoting peace but getting involved in political war matters as sensitive as this will deter global peace.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on March 04, 2022, 03:58:24 PM

Quote from: avikz on March 04, 2022, 12:31:18 AM

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I guess no.

The sport should not follow any kind of politic, while they already got economy sanction but we still ban their sport access ~LOL. I still remember while some football player using a word after the match "Pray for Palestine" and guess what.

FIFA responding should not using sport as politic.

But FIFA have final decision after banned Russia for participating on world cup play off round against with Poland, I think FIFA still not remember with how hundred thousand Palestine citizen victim after Israel invasion and punish almost several player when celebrate with support freedom to Palestine, but now have different think when Ukraine get invasion by Russian and FIFA mixing politic with football. I think have to stop with FIFA about justice punishment getting for every country make invasion and have to banned them on FIFA competition. Still have many countries like United State will get banned from FIFA after their invasion war to Iraq and many other countries as victim from US invasion war but FIFA keep silent without mixing between politic and football.

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Quote from: avikz on March 04, 2022, 12:31:18 AM

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I guess no.

The sport should not follow any kind of politic, while they already got economy sanction but we still ban their sport access ~LOL. I still remember while some football player using a word after the match "Pray for Palestine" and guess what.

FIFA responding should not using sport as politic.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on March 04, 2022, 02:32:27 AM

Finally, the Russian football federation or RFS appealed the sanctions that had been given by FIFA and UEFA against the Russian national team which was disqualified from the world cup play-off round and also Spartak Moscow who had to exit the last 16 of the UEFA Europe League early after being disqualified by UEFA. Strict steps were taken by the Russian football federation considering that there was no connection at all between the invasion and the war with Ukraine. FIFA and UEFA have criticized the political actions taken by some players and supporters when providing support for Palestine but currently UEFA and FIFA have quite different views with Russia invasion right now.

on the another side I see that the decision to ban the russian team from fifa is a bit unfair, it's true what the russian football federation said, the invasion by the putin government should not be a reason to be banned but I also realize that this step was taken by fifa to put pressure on putin. I still hope that the best way can be found because it is a pity if the Russian team gets banned from the world cup.

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Quote from: Cling18 on March 04, 2022, 11:58:15 AM

It's just so disappointing that even the football teams in Russia are suffering when in fact, they worked hard for their spot. It seems so unfair to them because it seems like they're being punished and discriminated against because of the government's conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Normal civilians are really suffering in so many ways.

The Russian people are suffering because of Putin's terrible decision. The USA and EU have imposed many sanctions against them. This will make the life of the Russian people more difficult. The Russian currency has already depreciated. Moreover, the Russian people have not also expressed solidarity with the attack on Ukraine. In many Russian cities, ordinary people have protested against the attack.

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Sooner or later, people inside Russia will be forced to voice out their opinions against Putin's actions. It is not the Russian people's fault why the country they represent are being excluded and isolated from a lot of organizations and activities around the world, but they will always be the victims until their President stops the war. It is a big blow on the Russian football players to be left behind on lots of these events, but organizations like FIFA and UEFA have to do what they have to do.

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It was in the news yesterday that FIFA and UEFA has together suspended Russian Football teams and clubs indefinitely.
It was said that all the teams that were supposed to play against Russia in their forth coming friendlies and world cup qualifiers vowed to boycott the match, so at the end, FIFA and UEFA had no choice but the suspend Russia from all international matches.

Russia in response to the suspension has come out to say that the suspension is discriminatory.

What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?

Russia had advanced to the second round of qualifiers and they were supposed to play against Poland on March 24, however due to the suspension not only they will be unable to play but it seems Poland is going to move automatically to the Final of Path B to dispute a ticket to the world cup, it is unfortunate that something like this is happening but I think we all knew it was coming, in the sport world Russia had been sanctioned several times already, and now with the invasion of Ukraine it seems many sport federations simply decided it was too much and took measures against Russia.

It's just so disappointing that even the football teams in Russia are suffering when in fact, they worked hard for their spot. It seems so unfair to them because it seems like they're being punished and discriminated against because of the government's conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Normal civilians are really suffering in so many ways.

I strongly disagree - if we call the act of FIFA and UEFA a discriminatory act. What would you call the act of Russian government's invasion in Ukraine. A fun game? Where they will see people dying mercilessly? Sports is one of the ways to promote peace. For the acts like war and violence has no place in sports. I appreciate the decision of FIFA and UEFA. There will more be coming for Russia from around the world - the world will not take this easy and this is a fine step ahead.

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Quote from: DU18 on March 04, 2022, 11:47:06 AM

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Yes, I can see that we have the same thoughts and stand regarding this matter, @DU18. It’s just saddening that how political conflicts cannot be prevented to rule and affect other matters, in this case, sports. I think that somehow there are biases going around with the made decisions, and I agree with @Cling18 that it is unfair because the Russian team have earned their spot because of their dedication to do so, and are no suffering because of political unrest.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on March 01, 2022, 02:41:57 PM

It was in the news yesterday that FIFA and UEFA has together suspended Russian Football teams and clubs indefinitely.
It was said that all the teams that were supposed to play against Russia in their forth coming friendlies and world cup qualifiers vowed to boycott the match, so at the end, FIFA and UEFA had no choice but the suspend Russia from all international matches.

Russia in response to the suspension has come out to say that the suspension is discriminatory.

What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?

Russia had advanced to the second round of qualifiers and they were supposed to play against Poland on March 24, however due to the suspension not only they will be unable to play but it seems Poland is going to move automatically to the Final of Path B to dispute a ticket to the world cup, it is unfortunate that something like this is happening but I think we all knew it was coming, in the sport world Russia had been sanctioned several times already, and now with the invasion of Ukraine it seems many sport federations simply decided it was too much and took measures against Russia.

It's just so disappointing that even the football teams in Russia are suffering when in fact, they worked hard for their spot. It seems so unfair to them because it seems like they're being punished and discriminated against because of the government's conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Normal civilians are really suffering in so many ways.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on March 03, 2022, 02:13:17 PM

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Yeah, you are right about that comment on my response, and I appreciate you calling that out. I agree with you, the regulations of FIFA is what could determine the fairness of this decision that has been made, and which should be also assessed if the suspension being made are in accordance to the existing regulations or not. Although this war is not something to be taken lightly, it does not also permit every event and matter should be involved in political conflicts, not unless public safety is at stake.

Russian sports authorities have condemned the ban, because they think the decision of FIFA and UEFA is very unfair because the decision seems discriminatory and goes against international competition norms, I agree with what the Russian Sports committee said, because after all it feels unfair that sport is affected by in today political game, I think all sports athletes of the world certainly reject any military aggression by any country in the world.
I personally also think that FIFA and UEFA decision is an unfair decision at all, if they ban Russia, of course they should also ban Israel and America from participating in the Football competition.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on March 03, 2022, 02:13:17 PM

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Yeah, you are right about that comment on my response, and I appreciate you calling that out. I agree with you, the regulations of FIFA is what could determine the fairness of this decision that has been made, and which should be also assessed if the suspension being made are in accordance to the existing regulations or not. Although this war is not something to be taken lightly, it does not also permit every event and matter should be involved in political conflicts, not unless public safety is at stake.

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Quote from: tyz on March 04, 2022, 06:23:31 AM

The Polish Football Association yesterday even proposed to introduce a special transfer period to allow players from Russia to move abroad immediately. If UEFA really allows this transfer period, there would certainly be an exodus of players from Russia. And the Russian clubs would probably not be able to prevent it, as they are exposed to extreme financial burdens with the sanctions.

I don't think this kind of move will be possible with polish football association. A Russia footballer is already known as that and can not claim Polish citizen. Except where they are doing naturalization to become Polish and to that I don't know how that will be possible. But at this deadly hour, such move of naturalization will be looked differently and may not get approval.

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Quote from: Mr.Scott on March 03, 2022, 01:00:37 PM

FIFA and UEFA have no choice but to take a heavy and hard decision after a growing number of countries say they will not compete against Russia. Some will criticize, while the rest will praise it. It is clear who supports and who does not. The situation might be unacceptable for the good of football, but that is how things are working. At least the European Football Association and FIFA are all in agreement about banning Russian football teams and all their affiliated clubs. It isn't a problem to be Russian; it is an action to minimize the temper of the European countries.

FIFA and UEFA decisions do not only apply to the Russian national team, but also to the Russian club Spartak Moscow. After being banned FAFA and UEFA, the Russian national team was unable to feature for World Cup matches, including the playoff match on March 24, 2022. Spartak Moscow also cannot continue its work in the 2021-2022 Europa League. As a result of the ban, Spartak Moscow only focused on domestic competitions.
In addition to imposing a ban on the Russian (national team) and (club), UEFA also said it had terminated a cooperation with Gazprom which is a sponsor for European competitions, like the Champions League.

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Quote from: tyz on March 04, 2022, 06:23:31 AM

The Polish Football Association yesterday even proposed to introduce a special transfer period to allow players from Russia to move abroad immediately. If UEFA really allows this transfer period, there would certainly be an exodus of players from Russia. And the Russian clubs would probably not be able to prevent it, as they are exposed to extreme financial burdens with the sanctions.

Most Russian clubs (maybe all 100%) are deeply unprofitable. Now that the ruble is falling to unexplored depths, and the flow of currency into the country is halting, I am sure that soon the clubs will themselves terminate contracts with foreigners simply because they will not have the money to pay them the agreed salary. Therefore, one way or another, this exodus will take place.

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Quote from: avikz on March 04, 2022, 12:31:18 AM

do you think Russia deserves this?

Today's Russian attack on Ukraine is happening as NATO wanted to include Ukraine in their group despite not being eligible.

That's one question I ask myself everyday with the thrilling news on the bans and sanctions that are being dished out to Russia and Russians on a daily. It kind of seems unfair and too much. For a nation like Ukraine that has some parts of its town to be Russian speaking especially those at there borders, its had to say on either, Russian shouldn't take a step towards avoiding there recent move to be a part of NATO.

The US and Russians aren't nations that are fund of themselves on any count and with Ukraine being a part of NATO, it indirectly or directly grants US a free pass unto Russians borders and this is what Russia is fighting so had to avoid. Ukraine and Russian athletes seems like those caught in the cross fire but, I feel its so much. Not playing or participating under a Russian flag could be the way to go but, a complete ban and free pass for teams they Russian athletes were supposed to compete with doesn't seem all right.

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The Polish Football Association yesterday even proposed to introduce a special transfer period to allow players from Russia to move abroad immediately. If UEFA really allows this transfer period, there would certainly be an exodus of players from Russia. And the Russian clubs would probably not be able to prevent it, as they are exposed to extreme financial burdens with the sanctions.

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