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February 28, 2017, 10:02:25 PM
Its flat just from our point of view.

Now this is a partially true statement.  Both for flat earthers and ball earthers.  The limits of human vision do create some illusions that are being attributed to both ball curvature and to flat observations.  It is however a more correct statement to say our "field of view", or "our perspective" is influenced the what appears to be a convergence on the horizon and then a vanishing point.  These are statements of fact from simple observation.  Look down a railroad track, or down a long hallway and watch the tracks or hallway converge at eye level to the point you cannot see any further.  That is just how our vision works. This we know.

But here is where that idea does not hold water.  Once you use technology to see beyond you human limits, AND what you can see is impossible using ball earth math due to the "supposed" curvature of the earth.  You now have solid evidence that the curvature that should be both observable and measurable does not exist when an optical aid is able to show you the impossible on a ball earth. 

So your statement is true on a rudimentary level, but once you dig beyond the cursory and begin to test the cage we live in and the ideas we have about this cage then things start to get interesting.  You just have to decide which pill your going to take, the red or blue one... One you stay in the matrix and eat the good noodle soup, and the other opens the door the the world of the "real".  It is up to you to decide... 

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February 28, 2017, 08:55:21 PM
Its flat just from our point of view.

The reality from scientific observation is that the earth is a globe.

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February 28, 2017, 02:05:55 PM
Its flat just from our point of view.
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February 28, 2017, 02:04:50 PM
If the Earth isn't flat then why was this patent allowed?

https://i.imgur.com/O8IpMmi.jpg


They were still teaching hollow earth as fact in some elementary schools in America as late as the 1950s. They could have believed anything way back in the 1800s.

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Turns out they are still believe today  Grin
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February 28, 2017, 01:23:28 PM
If the Earth isn't flat then why was this patent allowed?





They were still teaching hollow earth as fact in some elementary schools in America as late as the 1950s. They could have believed anything way back in the 1800s.

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February 28, 2017, 12:53:06 PM
If the Earth isn't flat then why was this patent allowed?
https://i.imgur.com/O8IpMmi.jpg

The same reason this patent is allowed.



Did you get that from elon musk?
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February 28, 2017, 12:21:47 PM

Now if you really do want to try to get to the edge you have to stop using any of the navigation tools and literally plot to go a straight line.  To do this you will need a map(we don't know how accurate these maps really are now, but it is your best shot to try and plot a straight path.  Let me give you another clue here.  You will need a Gleasons or UN style map to work up this plot.  If you decide to take the trip keep us all posted.  We all love pictures of an ice wall and vast antarctic imagery.   Roll Eyes

It is now up to you to go beyond the cursory thought process you have used so far when examining the earth you live on. 

Start with something small, like show us all the curvature of the earth.  The math is easy, should be easily observable as described by the ball earthers.  Find a large body of water and show us the hump in the water, show us how the earth curved away from you and show us the measurements.  See today we have great technology that makes this much easier than ever to prove curvature.  It really is a no brainer at this point.  But go prove it to yourself.  Go find others that are willing to prove it themselves.  People are forming up in groups all over the earth now conducting theses experiments and the earth is not a ball/sphere. 

I hope you do actually bother to look any of this up, but I know you won't.  It's OK.  I am hitting ignore now and won't bother with any more posts from you regarding the flat earth.  Good luck!

Things about navigation - not going to argue, there are many other ways (no man made tools) to find north.

There are thousands of proofs that Earth is sphere, like photos, videos, pictures from Moon or other objects, even live stream from ISS. So if you trying to prof something you need to make point that we are wrong, I'm not trying to rediscover Earths shape, you are..
Can you please show me one photo or video that proves your story, i need to see that edge to believe, please ignore me if you can't.
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February 28, 2017, 12:17:22 PM
SpaceX Plans to Send 2 Tourists Around Moon in 2018

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/science/spacex-moon-tourists.html

Flat Earthers are gonna cry!  Grin

Elon Musk is a liar and NY SEMIT is fake news.

No we are going to laugh when they take people on fake space trips.  That is going to be funny.  I cannot wait to see the show.  Would they fake space?  Yep, they sure will...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Cadets_(TV_series)

So Elan and company must feel pretty confident they can fool the masses and tourists.  Let's see if they open this up to "everyone" or it stays with "a select group" of people....  It is gonna be fun to watch this circus.  We as people really are pretty stupid.  It is now clear we will believe anything having woken up from the ball earth spell and so many others. 

The series described itself as the most elaborate hoax perpetrated in television history. The title is a comical reference to the slang phrase, which is used to describe vacuous, gullible fools, untethered to reality (compare airhead).[citation needed] It was not clear if the contestants were aware of the show's title, although a whiteboard in the 'barracks' had "Space Cadettes" [sic] written on it during one of the parties organised in the facility.

A group of twelve contestants (who answered an advert looking for "thrill seekers") were selected to become the first British televised space tourists, including going to Russia to train as cosmonauts at the "Space Tourist Agency of Russia" (STAR) military base, with the series culminating in a group of four embarking on a five-day space mission in low Earth orbit. The show and space mission contained aspects of Reality TV, including hidden cameras, soundproofed 'video diary' rooms and group dormitories.

Could turn out be a good series and will make them alot of money... like a Bullshit Big Brother



They pulled this hoax off in 2005, it will be even easier today with the technology and tools at their disposal to fool the "tourists".  I think it is going to be funny to watch!
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February 28, 2017, 12:07:20 PM
Gleason's is correct.
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February 28, 2017, 12:00:57 PM
If the Earth isn't flat then why was this patent allowed?



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February 28, 2017, 11:59:24 AM
SpaceX Plans to Send 2 Tourists Around Moon in 2018

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/science/spacex-moon-tourists.html

Flat Earthers are gonna cry!  Grin

Elon Musk is a liar and NY SEMIT is fake news.

No we are going to laugh when they take people on fake space trips.  That is going to be funny.  I cannot wait to see the show.  Would they fake space?  Yep, they sure will...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Cadets_(TV_series)

So Elan and company must feel pretty confident they can fool the masses and tourists.  Let's see if they open this up to "everyone" or it stays with "a select group" of people....  It is gonna be fun to watch this circus.  We as people really are pretty stupid.  It is now clear we will believe anything having woken up from the ball earth spell and so many others. 

The series described itself as the most elaborate hoax perpetrated in television history. The title is a comical reference to the slang phrase, which is used to describe vacuous, gullible fools, untethered to reality (compare airhead).[citation needed] It was not clear if the contestants were aware of the show's title, although a whiteboard in the 'barracks' had "Space Cadettes" [sic] written on it during one of the parties organised in the facility.

A group of twelve contestants (who answered an advert looking for "thrill seekers") were selected to become the first British televised space tourists, including going to Russia to train as cosmonauts at the "Space Tourist Agency of Russia" (STAR) military base, with the series culminating in a group of four embarking on a five-day space mission in low Earth orbit. The show and space mission contained aspects of Reality TV, including hidden cameras, soundproofed 'video diary' rooms and group dormitories.

Could turn out be a good series and will make them alot of money... like a Bullshit Big Brother

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February 28, 2017, 10:12:04 AM
SpaceX Plans to Send 2 Tourists Around Moon in 2018

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/science/spacex-moon-tourists.html

Flat Earthers are gonna cry!  Grin

Elon Musk is a liar and NY SEMIT is fake news.

No we are going to laugh when they take people on fake space trips.  That is going to be funny.  I cannot wait to see the show.  Would they fake space?  Yep, they sure will...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Cadets_(TV_series)

So Elan and company must feel pretty confident they can fool the masses and tourists.  Let's see if they open this up to "everyone" or it stays with "a select group" of people....  It is gonna be fun to watch this circus.  We as people really are pretty stupid.  It is now clear we will believe anything having woken up from the ball earth spell and so many others. 

I will answer you in a way FEs can understand... meme!

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February 28, 2017, 09:45:09 AM
SpaceX Plans to Send 2 Tourists Around Moon in 2018

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/science/spacex-moon-tourists.html

Flat Earthers are gonna cry!  Grin

Elon Musk is a liar and NY SEMIT is fake news.

No we are going to laugh when they take people on fake space trips.  That is going to be funny.  I cannot wait to see the show.  Would they fake space?  Yep, they sure will...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Cadets_(TV_series)

So Elan and company must feel pretty confident they can fool the masses and tourists.  Let's see if they open this up to "everyone" or it stays with "a select group" of people....  It is gonna be fun to watch this circus.  We as people really are pretty stupid.  It is now clear we will believe anything having woken up from the ball earth spell and so many others. 
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February 28, 2017, 09:39:59 AM
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Ok this is going to be hard. I will give one more strike.
Did you ever used telescope to observe objects in Solar system? If yes, what did you noticed? These objects was spheres or flat surfaces?

Btw going east or west, north or south, on flat surface do not make you go to same spot you started, it lead you to the end of surface  Roll Eyes

If you still doubt, try to do this by yourself.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veqJART9XBA


Ok, So again I see you haven't given this much thought.  So I am going to hit the ignore link under your name.  But just quick reply in the hopes that you will bother to look anything up yourself.

Yes, look through a telescope... and just observe what you see...

Second use that same telescope to watch a ship or object disappear from your field of view(over the curvature of the earth), now let your telescope pull it back into full view...

Lastly navigation does not work the way you think it does.  You go east and keep going east you will end up back where you started.  Why?  How did you know you were going east?  Ever heard of a compass?  It will always point "north".  You will always be directed so that the compass points north so east and west will in fact take you around the "circle", and not to the edge.  Shocked

Now if you really do want to try to get to the edge you have to stop using any of the navigation tools and literally plot to go a straight line.  To do this you will need a map(we don't know how accurate these maps really are now, but it is your best shot to try and plot a straight path.  Let me give you another clue here.  You will need a Gleasons or UN style map to work up this plot.  If you decide to take the trip keep us all posted.  We all love pictures of an ice wall and vast antarctic imagery.   Roll Eyes

It is now up to you to go beyond the cursory thought process you have used so far when examining the earth you live on. 

Start with something small, like show us all the curvature of the earth.  The math is easy, should be easily observable as described by the ball earthers.  Find a large body of water and show us the hump in the water, show us how the earth curved away from you and show us the measurements.  See today we have great technology that makes this much easier than ever to prove curvature.  It really is a no brainer at this point.  But go prove it to yourself.  Go find others that are willing to prove it themselves.  People are forming up in groups all over the earth now conducting theses experiments and the earth is not a ball/sphere. 

I hope you do actually bother to look any of this up, but I know you won't.  It's OK.  I am hitting ignore now and won't bother with any more posts from you regarding the flat earth.  Good luck!
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February 28, 2017, 08:56:19 AM

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Fact that you can go from one point all around and get same spot where you started is enough to understand that Earth is a round object not a flat surface

Thats not what flat earthers imply! You dont know their theory and you call them stupid. Thats not very smart. You dont know the problems of your heliocentric model as well and you call it absolute truth I suppose as well. Otherwise you wouldnt be so sure that flat earth must be wrong.

I did not call anyone stupid, actually i think there are no stupid people just different point of views and different experiences

I just said that on flat surface you cant make circle if you are going straight, on Earth you can, so obviously Earth is round object

 Roll Eyes  You seriously haven't given this much thought at all...

Go east on the flat earth and tell me where you end up...  Now reverse course and go west on the flat earth and tell us where you end up. 

Next try to find anyone who has actually, provably circumnavigated north to south or south to north around the entire earth...  You can count on 1 hand the number to claim they have done the north to south/south to north circumnavigation.  And when you check into their stories well lets just say there are issues.

Now try to count the number of people who have done this east to west circumnavigation... You will have a hard time counting how many of done this.  Now the excuses about why this is that so many have circumnavigated east to west/west to east, but few if any have done this same trek north/south...  Red flags are everywhere... If you have an inquisitive mind and question the things that you are told. 

So I would strongly suggest you take some time to give this some thought.  Grin 

Ok this is going to be hard. I will give one more strike.
Did you ever used telescope to observe objects in Solar system? If yes, what did you noticed? These objects was spheres or flat surfaces?

Btw going east or west, north or south, on flat surface do not make you go to same spot you started, it lead you to the end of surface  Roll Eyes

If you still doubt, try to do this by yourself.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veqJART9XBA
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February 28, 2017, 07:39:39 AM
SpaceX Plans to Send 2 Tourists Around Moon in 2018
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/science/spacex-moon-tourists.html
Flat Earthers are gonna cry!  Grin
Elon Musk is a liar and NY SEMIT is fake news.

I'm totally outfitting my ranch with his new solar shingles next year.

Here's a non fake news link for you.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-space-spacex-tourists-idUSKBN1662HJ
If you want free solar energy simply throw a copper sphere up in a tree and transform through a PMH.
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February 28, 2017, 07:15:56 AM
SpaceX Plans to Send 2 Tourists Around Moon in 2018

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/science/spacex-moon-tourists.html

Flat Earthers are gonna cry!  Grin

Elon Musk is a liar and NY SEMIT is fake news.
Even nasa arnt that stupid to go straight up.!
Check out what happened when Richard Bransons effort went straight up.!!!
The only one that ever did..
It will more likely to be paid actors and CGI bollocks they show us.


Those flat brains answers were expected. Nothing new here... we'll wait to see you FEs cry!  Grin Grin
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February 28, 2017, 07:04:37 AM
SpaceX Plans to Send 2 Tourists Around Moon in 2018

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/science/spacex-moon-tourists.html

Flat Earthers are gonna cry!  Grin

Elon Musk is a liar and NY SEMIT is fake news.
Even nasa arnt that stupid to go straight up.!
Check out what happened when Richard Bransons effort went straight up.!!!
The only one that ever did..
It will more likely to be paid actors and CGI bollocks they show us.
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February 28, 2017, 06:34:12 AM
SpaceX Plans to Send 2 Tourists Around Moon in 2018

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/science/spacex-moon-tourists.html

Flat Earthers are gonna cry!  Grin

Elon Musk is a liar and NY SEMIT is fake news.
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