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Quote from: TelolettOm on September 29, 2024, 06:48:11 PM

Quote from: GiftedMAN on September 29, 2024, 06:02:44 PM

Speaking as a Manchester United fan, I never expected the team to get better this season because of the current squad, the management of United saw all the struggle in the team last season they still allowed some players that has little or nothing to offer for the club to remain in the club this shows that they are not ready for improvement.

Poor Man United, they are lack of many things, they are too complicated. the loss today from Tottenham, worsen the condition.
I think with Man United's condition not improving either, they will sack ten Hag, many speculations like that. Well, but this is one of ten Hag's answers

Source: Ten Hag: “I’m not thinking about being sacked

And again they still keep him. Yes, maybe there are many preferences for Man United to choose another coach, but it seems like they are still waiting for another big loss, haha

I can't provide many more comments on that issue if Ten Hag is really retained again. Huh

But my hope, as someone who is not a Manchester United fan, when Ten Hag first joined the team, was that the coach would bring new innovations, such as making significant changes by developing talent from young players taken from the academy and allowing losses to happen for two seasons. But in the third season, Manchester United was already able to perform stronger and more consistently.
However, the reality is that none of that aligns because I do not know what the management of MU is thinking right now.

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Quote from: fruktik on September 30, 2024, 12:00:44 AM

Quote from: TelolettOm on September 29, 2024, 06:48:11 PM

Poor Man United, they are lack of many things, they are too complicated. the loss today from Tottenham, worsen the condition.
I think with Man United's condition not improving either, they will sack ten Hag, many speculations like that. Well, but this is one of ten Hag's answers

Source: Ten Hag: “I’m not thinking about being sacked

And again they still keep him. Yes, maybe there are many preferences for Man United to choose another coach, but it seems like they are still waiting for another big loss, haha

What? How could this happen? Manchester lost to Tottenham? How could this happen? This is just a nightmare. Am I dreaming? Everything is really bad in this world. I didn't think I'd ever see such a defeat. Yeah, if things continue like this, then Erik ten Hag needs to be replaced urgently.

As the situation shows, this was the worst game under his leadership. How many more failures can we see?

Yes of course it is a bad trip for Man United fans to see Ten Hag still in control of the team, he is clearly not good enough and I have never seen a game so disorganized as the one I support, Ole is better than him but Ole has been removed because he is not living up to the fans expectations, it is clear that it is time for Man United management to have a talk about the managerial bench, after 3 games without a win at home to Twente it really hurts and Monday was a bad day for us fans after the humiliating 0-3 home defeat, clearly Ten Hag has to go.

He was quite good at talking after the defeat saying he will not be sacked because we are together, but the fans are demanding him out immediately frustrated every week if the games do not produce good results, I think Man United management should come out and say he has to go we have to see the development of Chelsea and also Liverpool under their new managers now Man United are just a weak team in the eyes of that person because of Ten Hag.

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Quote from: fruktik on September 30, 2024, 12:00:44 AM

Quote from: TelolettOm on September 29, 2024, 06:48:11 PM

Poor Man United, they are lack of many things, they are too complicated. the loss today from Tottenham, worsen the condition.
I think with Man United's condition not improving either, they will sack ten Hag, many speculations like that. Well, but this is one of ten Hag's answers

Source: Ten Hag: “I’m not thinking about being sacked

And again they still keep him. Yes, maybe there are many preferences for Man United to choose another coach, but it seems like they are still waiting for another big loss, haha

What? How could this happen? Manchester lost to Tottenham? How could this happen? This is just a nightmare. Am I dreaming? Everything is really bad in this world. I didn't think I'd ever see such a defeat. Yeah, if things continue like this, then Erik ten Hag needs to be replaced urgently.

As the situation shows, this was the worst game under his leadership. How many more failures can we see?

Hahaha🤣🤣🤣🤣, bro take a deep breath and chill, this is just the beginning for all the Manchester united fan laughing at Chelsea last season, as if they were way better than Chelsea last season, right now Manchester united fan should just enjoy their rollercoaster ride that Eric ten hang is taking them on, it's their turn🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Can you imagine the confidence in his words, even when Manchester united is actually horrible to watch in the field of play, and by the look of things, nothing the fans of Manchester united can do to remove him, it's the hierarchy of Manchester united that has the final say on wether he stays or he leaves, but as for now, the Manchester united supporters should just enjoy the rollercoaster ride Eric ten hang is taking them on, just as graham potter and frank lampard did with Chelsea 😂😂😂

I sincerely never knew that Jordan Sancho is this good till I watch him in a Chelsea shirt, why would he be seating on the bench at Manchester united? I almost forgot that it's their turn,😂😂🤣 let their supporters enjoy the show 🤣🤣😂😂

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Quote from: len01 on September 29, 2024, 01:30:12 PM

It seems that Man United has to suffer from the same problems as last season when many players faced injury issues, and now Maguire, who is a key player for ETH, has to deal with an injury.
So, will this be good news or bad news? IMO, it's time for Manchester United's management to address every issue, such as Maguire, who should actually be replaced due to his slightly older age. It would be better to recruit younger, more aggressive players who can make a significant contribution.

Meguire just gets a knock. He'll probably be fine to play in the upcoming game. No need to worry too much about him right now. He will be fine and back to our squad later.

However, it seems to me he's pretty injury-prone now. I hope i was wrong, but let's see if there will be another update from his injury soon. Hopefully, he will be fine next game.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on September 29, 2024, 06:48:11 PM

Poor Man United, they are lack of many things, they are too complicated. the loss today from Tottenham, worsen the condition.
I think with Man United's condition not improving either, they will sack ten Hag, many speculations like that. Well, but this is one of ten Hag's answers

Source: Ten Hag: “I’m not thinking about being sacked

And again they still keep him. Yes, maybe there are many preferences for Man United to choose another coach, but it seems like they are still waiting for another big loss, haha

What? How could this happen? Manchester lost to Tottenham? How could this happen? This is just a nightmare. Am I dreaming? Everything is really bad in this world. I didn't think I'd ever see such a defeat. Yeah, if things continue like this, then Erik ten Hag needs to be replaced urgently.

As the situation shows, this was the worst game under his leadership. How many more failures can we see?

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Quote from: irhact on September 29, 2024, 04:15:21 PM

Quote from: bitgolden on September 28, 2024, 03:30:12 PM

Spending money on a team doesn't equal to winning a title, that's not how it works. If you are in a league like France, then yeah it may work because PSG is the only one who can spend as much money as PSG does, and there is no opponent ,but this year even Brighton spent more than United, so its clear that spending money isn't a win at premier league.

Spending money wisely wins you the league but most clubs aren't spending money wisely. Manchester United used money to win the league when they did in the past that no other clubs were able to compete with them. Chelsea came into the picture and did the same thing and won trophies after trophies. The next was Manchester city and they're still doing it and winning the premier league back to back. For Arsenal to be even competing with Manchester city for the title, they had to spend money wisely by acquiring players. You can't win without spending money. The reason teams like Brighton has been performing so well this season is as they spent money to buy players.

The fact is that spending a lot of money to recruit players does not guarantee a club to be successful as you can see so far Brighton has not been fully consistent, Manchester United and Chelsea have also spent a lot of money they have not been able to compete in the title race, buying a lot of players is not the only best solution they also need to hone the abilities of their players to be more effective and the coach factor also has a big influence on team performance the foundation lies in the coach's strategy and the players only do what their coach says if the coach can't provide a good strategy it's useless for them to buy a lot of players they are just wasting money.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on September 29, 2024, 06:02:44 PM

Speaking as a Manchester United fan, I never expected the team to get better this season because of the current squad, the management of United saw all the struggle in the team last season they still allowed some players that has little or nothing to offer for the club to remain in the club this shows that they are not ready for improvement.

Poor Man United, they are lack of many things, they are too complicated. the loss today from Tottenham, worsen the condition.
I think with Man United's condition not improving either, they will sack ten Hag, many speculations like that. Well, but this is one of ten Hag's answers

Source: Ten Hag: “I’m not thinking about being sacked

And again they still keep him. Yes, maybe there are many preferences for Man United to choose another coach, but it seems like they are still waiting for another big loss, haha

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 29, 2024, 03:41:36 PM

Quote from: len01 on September 29, 2024, 01:30:12 PM

It seems that Man United has to suffer from the same problems as last season when many players faced injury issues, and now Maguire, who is a key player for ETH, has to deal with an injury.
So, will this be good news or bad news? IMO, it's time for Manchester United's management to address every issue, such as Maguire, who should actually be replaced due to his slightly older age. It would be better to recruit younger, more aggressive players who can make a significant contribution.

I don't want to believe that Manchester United's struggles at the moment is coming as a surprise to many of us. The club management saw everything that happened last season and didn't respond to their shortcomings the way they ought to. The injury-bound players in the team were allowed to remain while the always fit players were allowed to go. Harry Maguire's reported injury isn't a strong one as the England international is expected to come back in less than a month from now.

Speaking as a Manchester United fan, I never expected the team to get better this season because of the current squad, the management of United saw all the struggle in the team last season they still allowed some players that has little or nothing to offer for the club to remain in the club this shows that they are not ready for improvement. Speaking about the injury or Harry Maguire, he is not a problem of United because he has been part of the reasons why United couldn't get better because of his inconsistency, if he is coming back soon it won't change anything but seeing how Rashford is not doing well and he is still allowed in the team is something else.

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Quote from: irhact on September 29, 2024, 04:15:21 PM

Spending money wisely wins you the league but most clubs aren't spending money wisely. Manchester United used money to win the league when they did in the past that no other clubs were able to compete with them. Chelsea came into the picture and did the same thing and won trophies after trophies. The next was Manchester city and they're still doing it and winning the premier league back to back. For Arsenal to be even competing with Manchester city for the title, they had to spend money wisely by acquiring players. You can't win without spending money. The reason teams like Brighton has been performing so well this season is as they spent money to buy players.

I agree with you that it is not only about signing players that guarantees you the league or winning anything. A clear example is when Madrid were signing the likes of Kaka, Ronaldo and the Likes of Özil but it didn’t work out because they didn’t win anything with that squad until they changed something’s. So yes I agree with you, that clubs can buy success if the players are signed rightly. But I wouldn’t say Manchester United bought success, because under Ferguson you wouldn’t see players been over bought or anything, moreover it is usually two or three non academy players you will see in the line up. This is because they played mostly with the academy players. Take look at the squad from 1999 to around 2007 it was majorly academy players.

The money tussle in the premier league started when Chelsea was acquired by Roman Abrahmovic and he went to spend close to 200 million and even brought Mourinho then who won the league back to back which started the rivalry and clubs started spending uptill now which brings premier league to been the highest spending league every transfer.

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Quote from: bitgolden on September 28, 2024, 03:30:12 PM

Newcastle is owned by the richest person in the world, spending a billion dollars for the team wouldn't even be noticed on his bank account, and yet they are still being careful because they know that if they just spend the money nilly willy, then they are not going to get anything good anyways. Sure City spent a lot too, but not as much as United, and they are doing much better, so it proves that money means something but its not the full thing and we should be considering how to get better result with time and grow the team. United spent a lot, but they got terrible players who worth much less now, they are spending a lot because they are overpaying the players.

But then, Newcastle United has won nothing in the last two seasons and this would be the third season for Eddie Howe. It's weird to see that football fans are not saying nothing about his incompetency despite all of the funds they have spent for the past two seasons. Putting much focus on Manchester United who has won two trophies in the last two seasons cracks me really. Manchester City are on another level. It'll take a whole lot to bring them down. The process of change and growth takes time, Manchester United fanbase are tiring and are without patience, yes they're serial winners from the past, but they should know all good things takes time and most things that last, has a slow start.

This statistical table is interesting to me. You have to look at where Brighton and Ipswich get all this money from and what they get in return. There is no direct correlation between money spent and success. At least for many teams. The fact is that without spending money you have no chance of winning anything. So spending money is not guaranteed to bring success, but not spending money is guaranteed not to bring success.
Looking at the table, Napoli should be in a much better position in Serie A and Lyon in Ligue 1. We are already used to the Arab clubs spending money, and West Ham and Tottenham seem to be the clubs in the Premier League that spend a lot and don't get what they should.
Maybe it would have made more sense to spend money on the infrastructure to develop young talents instead of paying so much for players.

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Quote from: bitgolden on September 28, 2024, 03:30:12 PM

Spending money on a team doesn't equal to winning a title, that's not how it works. If you are in a league like France, then yeah it may work because PSG is the only one who can spend as much money as PSG does, and there is no opponent ,but this year even Brighton spent more than United, so its clear that spending money isn't a win at premier league.

Spending money wisely wins you the league but most clubs aren't spending money wisely. Manchester United used money to win the league when they did in the past that no other clubs were able to compete with them. Chelsea came into the picture and did the same thing and won trophies after trophies. The next was Manchester city and they're still doing it and winning the premier league back to back. For Arsenal to be even competing with Manchester city for the title, they had to spend money wisely by acquiring players. You can't win without spending money. The reason teams like Brighton has been performing so well this season is as they spent money to buy players.

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Quote from: len01 on September 29, 2024, 01:30:12 PM

It seems that Man United has to suffer from the same problems as last season when many players faced injury issues, and now Maguire, who is a key player for ETH, has to deal with an injury.
So, will this be good news or bad news? IMO, it's time for Manchester United's management to address every issue, such as Maguire, who should actually be replaced due to his slightly older age. It would be better to recruit younger, more aggressive players who can make a significant contribution.

Looking at the data on transfermarkt there are actually only 3 players injured from Manchester United and if you add Maguire it becomes 4 players where all of them are defenders but by looking at the list of defenders owned I feel that there will be no problem in rotation it's just that Manchester United's performance regardless of the presence of defenders or not is the same where they cannot play well and their defence is weak.

For Maguire's problem sooner or later he will leave especially seeing his current contract which will expire at the end of this season I think he will still leave in the end it's just that when trying the sale option it will definitely be difficult because it will be too late. It is quite unfortunate that previously there was an offer about this player so that Manchester United did not lose too much in releasing the player but it seems that Manchester United's thinking is too far in looking at Maguire who feels that he is still of high value.

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Quote from: len01 on September 29, 2024, 01:30:12 PM

It seems that Man United has to suffer from the same problems as last season when many players faced injury issues, and now Maguire, who is a key player for ETH, has to deal with an injury.
So, will this be good news or bad news? IMO, it's time for Manchester United's management to address every issue, such as Maguire, who should actually be replaced due to his slightly older age. It would be better to recruit younger, more aggressive players who can make a significant contribution.

Maguire being out is a huge blow for Manchester United but with De ligt and Martinez available i don’t think they have much to worry about because their defense looks abit stable just that the midfielders and attackers have not been doing their best recently that’s why the defenders are easily exposed. I think tge team have thought about replacing Maguire that was why they brought in De Ligt and if he can keep fit i think they will improve in the defense.

Manchester United needs to improve in alot of areas and i think what they need to do is to firstly sack Ten Hag and assign a new manager to manage the players better. There are good players in the team but lack good management to bring out the best in them.

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Quote from: len01 on September 29, 2024, 01:30:12 PM

It seems that Man United has to suffer from the same problems as last season when many players faced injury issues, and now Maguire, who is a key player for ETH, has to deal with an injury.
So, will this be good news or bad news? IMO, it's time for Manchester United's management to address every issue, such as Maguire, who should actually be replaced due to his slightly older age. It would be better to recruit younger, more aggressive players who can make a significant contribution.

I don't want to believe that Manchester United's struggles at the moment is coming as a surprise to many of us. The club management saw everything that happened last season and didn't respond to their shortcomings the way they ought to. The injury-bound players in the team were allowed to remain while the always fit players were allowed to go. Harry Maguire's reported injury isn't a strong one as the England international is expected to come back in less than a month from now.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 21, 2024, 04:32:08 AM

Chelsea is mainly focused on Osimhen as it seems. I have heard they have already sent their scouts to watch him at Galatasaray. If not in January, they would make a move next summer at worst. Wink

After Osimhen came to Galatasaray, the fans love him and they react as if Osimhen has been at Galatasaray for years. I think Osimhen is very happy at Galatasaray and that is why he is contributing very well to the team. Galatasaray got a very good performance from Osimhen in the games after he arrived. He scores goals and assists. We all know that Chelsea will not want to miss him but considering that Osimhen will be free at the end of the season, it is highly likely that he will stay at Galatasaray. I don't think he will leave the team at halftime because he seems very happy to be at Galatasaray. At the end of the season, he might not surprisingly stay at Galatasaray.

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Quote from: tusandii on September 29, 2024, 03:36:50 AM

but if Arsenal is interested and willing to accept the price clause I think Leverkusen will find it difficult to refuse.

I think something, if this player were to join the ranks of Xabi Alonso it would be difficult because basically he has the team very well meshed with each of his players, it would be a blow for him, I don't know, sometimes I think it's good not to have so much money coming into a club but to take the glory of a victory, for me that's more important , but we have to see if the club has enough money to continue with everything they have so far, on that part I don't have the details , but I wouldn't let him go , he's a Fundamental piece in the team, and I think Xabi wouldn't be very happy to let him go.

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While some of that is certainly because of ETH, we need to realize that most of this season was mostly because of INEOS as well, and aside from Antony, it is not really that different. I get that Klopp spent much less, that is not a shock, United is a richer team so they spend more, it is not spending more that shocks me, that's basically what was expected, it is the lack of success that is shocking. Kiopp spent some money but he won both premier league and UCL during his tenure, on different seasons but he did. Whereas ETH won just one efl and one fa cup, nothing more, while spending more.

I think United could just look at this alone and have a reason to fire ETH and yet they are still not doing it and I do not know why, why keep him, why are they still insisting that he could do fine. I am not just some fan who is complaining, I am not even a United fan, I am not British, but at the same time I am seeing this team being managed terribly and yet see them still insist on the person who makes the team play terrible.

I guess they are sick and tired of keep hiring and firing managers and wanted to give some more time. Sure, keep one more season, be terrible, and then maybe they can finally get some good manager.

It seems that the scenario is currently underway, Man United management and top brass are trying to keep Ten Hag for another season, a full season since INEOS acquired a minority stake in the club. Fans are clearly fed up and frustrated with the performance of Bruno Fernandes and his colleagues who continue to experience ups and downs, and the latest they have just experienced another defeat from Toottenham, the pain occurred at Old Trafford. A series of defeats is certainly a bad record, and I think it will put Ten Hag under great pressure.

On the other hand, Jurgen Klopp is considered very lucky while coaching Liverpool, he has a group of quality players, which makes his job easier. Meanwhile, management must certainly see the development shown by Ten Hag this season, which may not be better than last season. Tottenham Superter has even sung a chant for Ten Hag "you're getting sack in the morning", after Man United being humiliated with a score of 3-0. Everything seems difficult for the Dutch manager, luck is often not on his side.

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https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/sep/28/jamal-musiala-bayern-munich-english-german-leverkusen

Musiala leaves the door open for a transfer to an English team in the future. He is happy at Bayern Munich now of course but he doesn't intend to finish his career there either as it seems.

His current contract runs until 2026. I'm curious whether Bayern Munich has started their attempts to extend its duration already. They had better do so as he is one of the most valuable players of the team.

He was linked with Manchester City in the past. I think his next stop would be that if he really signs for a Premier League team later on.

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It seems that Man United has to suffer from the same problems as last season when many players faced injury issues, and now Maguire, who is a key player for ETH, has to deal with an injury.
So, will this be good news or bad news? IMO, it's time for Manchester United's management to address every issue, such as Maguire, who should actually be replaced due to his slightly older age. It would be better to recruit younger, more aggressive players who can make a significant contribution.

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Quote from: Falconer on September 28, 2024, 06:15:19 PM

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A lot will depend on how Florian Wirtz will get through this season and what his impact will be on the biggest European stage in the CL. If he can become an important player for Bayer Leverkusen in the CL, I think that Arsenal would be out because there will be Real Madrid. And Real Madrid is sometimes willing to pay whatever is needed and I believe his contract is going to end in 2026, which means that Bayer Leverkusen has to make a big decision. But since they are not as rich as the sheikh clubs, I suppose they will sell Wirtz. But it won't probably be €150m. There aren't too many clubs that could afford him anyway if he plays an excellent season. Bayern Munich has said at some point that they would be willing to spend a lot of money for top talents from Germany, so who knows what they will have to say when they throw their hat into the ring.

If Florian Wirtz is able to perform impressively this season with Leverkusen, in every competition, it is possible that his market value will reach 150 million. Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Arsenal are reportedly ready to compete to get the young talent of the German National Team. The factor that can influence an important decision in Florian Wirtz future career is Xabi Alonso. Last summer the manager decided to stay with Leverkusen, if he leaves at the end of the season, it is likely that Florian Wirtz will also decide to leave, maybe even work together again at their new club. In terms of finance, the three clubs will not mind paying Florian Wirtz release clause which is considered very expensive. A good choice in my opinion is Real Madrid.

Yes and when he reaches that market value, I think Bayern Munich would be out. I suppose they would be willing to pay around 100-120 million at max with bonuses and perhaps distributed over a couple of years. Or it could be that Bayern Munich offers a player in exchange and then tries to lower the transfer fee to something around 70-80 million, but then it comes down to what Bayer Leverkusen needs and wants.

But if Real Madrid steps in and is willing to pay 150 million, it is probably game over as they would offer Wirtz at least as high a salary as Bayern Munich would do. But then there is still Wirtz and whether he wants to stay in the Bundesliga or not. But Real Madrid is Real Madrid and I think it is very difficult to say no to them. But Wirtz has a lot to say as otherwise Bayer Leverkusen would lose too much because he could leave the club in 2026 for free. That would be a horror for them.

It remains exciting and I am far from certain how this could end.

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