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Official news from Crystal Palace, they managed to bring in former Liverpol right-back Nathaniel Clyne on a free transfer. It looks like Crystal Palace will not give him a long contract. Currently Crystal Palace is in 12th place in the EPL, I am not sure that Nathaniel Clyne can bring Crystal Palace into the top ten. But I think it will add to their strength to fight in a long season.

Source: https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/2020/october/nathaniel-clyne-returns-to-crystal-palace-on-short-term-deal/

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 15, 2020, 06:00:10 AM

Bottom line - he'll get a big offer for sure. I just can't seem to understand why.
I wouldn't be surprised if Woodward offered him 500k£ per week to stay.

That's a very possible scenario, just like the deal Manchester United gave to Edinson cavani, which imo, is quite too much for a player i consider to have gone past his peak/best and I don't know what else he can offer Manchester United. That being said, I think Pogba will accept a big deal if it comes, and hence stay put in Manchester United for another couple of years.

Looking at Paul and how he plays this days, with the body movements and all, he doesn't look to me like he's too bothered about his bad form or the fact that he's not living up to the expectation fans look upon him with, cause if you ask me, it's obvious United isn't the club for him, nor the club to take his career to the next/best level, if he stays at United, I guess he is content with his mediocre performances

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^ ^ Does anybody got stats on Pogba's performance with United over the years? His form has been dipping year after year.

I don't think United should be going for a contract extension with him unless it's to turn him into a bargaining chip. Lol.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 15, 2020, 06:00:10 AM

That guy is like a Liverpool's angel sent to Earth with a sole purpose of destroying Manchester United.

Totally!!! That's a very good way to put it Lol. Like I said earlier Man United sense of targetting players and making bid on them has gone totally off. For past couple of years most of the targets that they acquired are very much overpriced or haven't put that much of a play as they were bought for.

Now they have bought some new players that haven't made their debut. Hopefully they can pick Man United now.

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Well, since Pogba's agent is Mino Raiola and since Pogba can sign a pre-arrangement with any club after January 1st to sign on a free contract during the summer, there will be a lot happening behind the scenes.

Raiola will offer Pogba to basically any major club and see who bites the hardest. In my opinion, it's between Real, PSG and Juventus, while a huge contract extension with United also seems like a fair option to consider.

Bottom line - he'll get a big offer for sure. I just can't seem to understand why.
I wouldn't be surprised if Woodward offered him 500k£ per week to stay. That guy is like a Liverpool's angel sent to Earth with a sole purpose of destroying Manchester United.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on October 14, 2020, 04:59:58 PM

Nothing will be happening until at least January because the transfer window is shut now. Pogba hasn’t really learned to do much in recent years, he’s been terrible. Maybe he could revive his club career if he moves but I dunno, is he the man to help restart a new era of dominance? I have my doubts.

Yes, I know if transfer window already closed few days ago, and barcelona need to wait on winter transfer window to realized it. I agree with you may be this transfer just waste money for Barcelona. I think real madrid make a good decision if they are stopped to bring Pogba to the team.

Another news, Pato possible back to Serie-A, he currently looking for new club. Genoa, Spezia, and Monza rumoured interesting to bring Pato. So sad, from AC Milan to small clubs

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Quote from: masulum on October 14, 2020, 09:13:57 AM

Barcelona are reportedly trying to make a bid with Pogba that Madrid no longer wants. However, this information contradicts with the financial condition of Barcelona, which is reported to have borrowed € 800 million to pay player salaries due to a lack of income due to COVID-19. It looks like Pogba has the right place if he really goes to Barcelona, because he is one of the players who often dives, and Pogba has learned to do that since at Juventus. Grin

Nothing will be happening until at least January because the transfer window is shut now. Pogba hasn’t really learned to do much in recent years, he’s been terrible. Maybe he could revive his club career if he moves but I dunno, is he the man to help restart a new era of dominance? I have my doubts.

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Barcelona are reportedly trying to make a bid with Pogba that Madrid no longer wants. However, this information contradicts with the financial condition of Barcelona, which is reported to have borrowed € 800 million to pay player salaries due to a lack of income due to COVID-19. It looks like Pogba has the right place if he really goes to Barcelona, because he is one of the players who often dives, and Pogba has learned to do that since at Juventus. Grin

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Nah, he was always a bit overhyped to begin with. He's a working forward, not a player with great technique or game understanding.

Even if it happened, he'd probably tap a few goals in but the team he'd be playing for would struggle to play anything through him. His pressing game would not be on a good level as well anymore.

He's done as a player, he was 2-3 years ago. This is probably his agent's last attempt to milk some money from a club that failed to sign a backup striker in the transfer deadline.
My 2 cents - nobody will take him. And if they do, he won't get much game time.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on October 14, 2020, 04:11:53 AM

Has anyone else heard rumors that Mandjukic, a former Juve and Croatia player, after the failure of negotiations with Zenit from Russia, could sign a contract with Forentina and return to the Italian league?
I'm not sure, after playing for a year in an exotic location, how much more Mandjukic can give as a striker in such a demanding league as the Italian league.
What do you think?

I think he can definitely still do a job in a top European League, maybe as a squad player in a big team. He’s never relied on pace so his age doesn’t really matter.

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Has anyone else heard rumors that Mandjukic, a former Juve and Croatia player, after the failure of negotiations with Zenit from Russia, could sign a contract with Forentina and return to the Italian league?
I'm not sure, after playing for a year in an exotic location, how much more Mandjukic can give as a striker in such a demanding league as the Italian league.
What do you think?

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on October 13, 2020, 10:39:27 AM

If in the next 3 to 5 matches MU cant win and always get bad result, then I don't think they need to wait too long and can immediately realize the termination of their contract with Ole. It is difficult to make the team achieve the success it dreams of if the composition of the players is not good enough to compete.
I still think that this is the start, even though it look bad but still has a chance to improve thing. The situation is similar for City, but I'm not sure it's because of Guardiola.

too early if MU sacked off Ole at the beginning of the season, at least MU will give him a chance until mid-season. because there are a few new players who enter at the start of the season, it becomes a consideration, whether Ole can maximize their potential or not. if not Ole really wasted money.
and By adding some new players, Ole should not always rely on the bruno effect like last season.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on October 13, 2020, 03:52:45 PM

He’s got no excuses now really, he has to get a trophy this season & get top 4 in the PL otherwise I’m certain he will get sacked at the end of the season, maybe even before if they are out of the title race by Christmas.

Top 4 in Premier League is not enough . Manchester United was 3rd last season and look at how tight his position is right now, there are tons of rumours about him being sacked soon especially after losing horribly against Tottenham. Its either winning the Premier League or Champions league to save his position

The only decent players so far are just Van De Beek, Bruno Fernandes, Harry and Cavani ( yep I know he is on free agent ) IMO

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Quote from: Naida_BR on October 13, 2020, 01:03:35 PM

I agree that Man Utd is pretty much the same team by the time Ole Gunnar was hired.
However, this is not only his fault. The upper management is doing so many bad decisions and they do not allocate the budget correctly. What would be the reason to hire a player such as Cavani when the whole team is already broke? He is not going to help only if the team will be consisted of bonded players.

Well they got some good players in the time.

Van De Beek 40m
Bruno Fernandes 55m
Harry Maguire 87m
Aaron Wan-Bissaka 55m

He got some good expensive players. Wink

He’s got no excuses now really, he has to get a trophy this season & get top 4 in the PL otherwise I’m certain he will get sacked at the end of the season, maybe even before if they are out of the title race by Christmas.

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Quote from: Avirunes on October 13, 2020, 11:18:07 AM

If that happens, likely same result over and over again with the squad they have. Don't want to give too much head on United. With that squad they don't seem like a big team in the current race. They have just won one match out of 3 and that too was against Brighton and they nearly had them in that.

Mind you that Manchester City have also won one match this season, against a struggling Wolves side, but they are still seen as one of the favorites for the epl title, that being said, I don't also think Manchester United can win the premier league just yet, but I don't think they'll fall out of the top four this season, except their bad run of form continues deep into the season, and teams like Everton, Arsenal and Chelsea have a good season.

Imo, OGS would not be sacked till the end of this season, if he stays or leaves old Trafford will depend on where Manchester United finish in the table, obviously it already looks impossible for them to win the league, so it's yet to be seen if the hierarchy at United will be happy with a top four finish yet again and give ole another year as head coach of Manchester United or change their manager.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on October 13, 2020, 01:03:35 PM

I agree that Man Utd is pretty much the same team by the time Ole Gunnar was hired.
However, this is not only his fault. The upper management is doing so many bad decisions and they do not allocate the budget correctly. What would be the reason to hire a player such as Cavani when the whole team is already broke? He is not going to help only if the team will be consisted of bonded players.

Well they got some good players in the time.

Van De Beek 40m
Bruno Fernandes 55m
Harry Maguire 87m
Aaron Wan-Bissaka 55m

He got some good expensive players. Wink

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Quote from: Naida_BR on October 12, 2020, 10:42:21 AM

I really cannot understand why it is the manager fault if the team is not playing well.
Personally, I do not like Solskjaer at all and indeed he must leave Man Utd but the team had the same results when Mourinho was on the team for example. It is not a manager's fail but a team fail. The whole team needs to be reconstructed from the beginning.

It's true that the current Man Utd team (including ole) has failed to achieve good results in recent times. But in cases like this, The manager takes a much bigger blame because part of his job is ensuring that the team delivers solid performances. So if they're not performing up to par, it means he's not doing his job correctly. This man utd team hasn't changed much since he took over (tactics, playing style), couple with bad line ups/subs doing games.

Since last season Man Utd fans have called for Ole to be sacked so it's only a matter of time now. Mourinho got sacked after they were humiliated by Liverpool. After their defeat to Tottenham, I'm sure they're considering possible replacements for him if there's not much improvement in the team's performances going forward.

Compared to players, managers have bigger roles to play. For instance, when we signed Jürgen Klopp in 2015, he changed things around and Liverpool started competing for top competitions and winning them.

I agree that Man Utd is pretty much the same team by the time Ole Gunnar was hired.
However, this is not only his fault. The upper management is doing so many bad decisions and they do not allocate the budget correctly. What would be the reason to hire a player such as Cavani when the whole team is already broke? He is not going to help only if the team will be consisted of bonded players.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 12, 2020, 08:51:27 AM

Quote from: Avirunes on October 11, 2020, 05:16:47 AM

I think they are gonna allow him some time. It's not gonna be that quick. The defeat from Spurs was humiliating one but they still have time to pick up the pace in the the table race and Ole earlier had also worked his team in such situations earlier so I think board is gonna give him some couple of months to make things right again at United.

I think they should give him a lifetime contract, he’s doing a great job Wink

In all seriousness I think he’ll get sacked before the end of the season but obviously it depends on the results they get. They look a really low quality team atm & I don’t think the board will have too much patience with him.

If that happens, likely same result over and over again with the squad they have. Don't want to give too much head on United. With that squad they don't seem like a big team in the current race. They have just won one match out of 3 and that too was against Brighton and they nearly had them in that.

Its not too late though, they can bounce back but team need some crucial changes.

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Quote from: masulum on October 12, 2020, 09:45:20 PM

For now, MU considered the bad results because they did not have a capable center-back. They are also trying to find players who are considered suitable for the team, which one of their targets is James Tarkowski. Based on rumour, Burnley put a price that is quite expensive for his players, with 50 million pounds. While MU may will start to open bid with 25m pounds. Regarding Ole, maybe MU will see the results achieved until mid-season. If MU still fails to compete in the Top-3, I think MU will take the decision to sacks him.

If in the next 3 to 5 matches MU cant win and always get bad result, then I don't think they need to wait too long and can immediately realize the termination of their contract with Ole. It is difficult to make the team achieve the success it dreams of if the composition of the players is not good enough to compete.
I still think that this is the start, even though it look bad but still has a chance to improve thing. The situation is similar for City, but I'm not sure it's because of Guardiola.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on October 12, 2020, 10:42:21 AM

I really cannot understand why it is the manager fault if the team is not playing well.
Personally, I do not like Solskjaer at all and indeed he must leave Man Utd but the team had the same results when Mourinho was on the team for example. It is not a manager's fail but a team fail. The whole team needs to be reconstructed from the beginning.

It’s easier to sack one manager than sell the whole team. The buck always stops with the manager, rightly or wrongly it’s just the way it is.

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