Another thing I'd like to share once again for more "social" proof is the opinion of the majority of members on this forum and what they think about this situation. Here is what everyone had to say:
1.
nutildah (Legendary Member) said:
"Honoring the "incorrect" odds would be the noble thing for FortuneJack to do."2.
Royse777 (Legendary Member) said: "I don't like this practice of they can do whatever they want. It's like I make up some reasons or even do not give any reason because there are no reason at all. Because I have the terms and conditions, I can have anyone's money anytime. No, I can not.
When you cancel a bet you return the stake and keep the winning (if it was won).So considering the mistake that happened from your provider, considering the communication time, considering the partial cashing out before the email sent, -
you owe the OP 0.067 BTC which was his stake by that time after you informed him. This is what I personally think will be a fair ending."
3. LEVSKI7 (Jr. Member) said: "
Brutal deception of fortunejack. They have no right to cancel a bet except in case of a technical error and there is a drop of the odds all the time and people play for cashout in beta and other sites."
4.
BlackFor3st (Hero Member) said: "I think Fortunejack does have all the rights to cancel a bet here" But he never mentioned that he also "thinks" that it's ok or right for you to keep the remaining stake as well upon the bet cancelation.
5.
Beparanf (Hero Member) said:
"They already admit their fault by giving OP the option for cash out with profit a night before the game. They are the one who gave a complimentary option just to continue the game
knowing there's an error in the odds.
I hope FJ will reconsider your case."
6.
Xavofat (Hero Member) said:
"Your explanation is clear and strong. If the email you quoted here is true then I really don't understand how odd's 1.7 is happened! The validity of that's email is not fair enough by OddsPortal's review.
I hope you will get back your money"
7. spyrosc200 said: This story has 2 thinks to examine:
1) Odds are dropping everyday. This is a fact.
Bookies have absolute no reason to void a bet cause odds drop from 2.30 to 1.70, from 2.30 to 1.30 etc. Simply there are dozens of such cases every day [as you can see]:
https://www.oddsportal.com/dropping-odds/ |
None of the games listed above is going to be voided from any fair bookmaker.2) The big question in your case imo is if the odds set from Fortjunejack was an
obvious error? If odds were obvious error, then imo they can void this bet. However,
if Fortunejack odds were in line with all other bookies at the time you took the bet, then
how can Forjunejack claim that they had wrong odds when the whole bookies worldwide had same odds as Forjunejack?8.
DarkStar_ (Legendary Member) said: "They might have the right to do it, but that doesn't make them not
shady if they
unjustifiably canceled a bet.
There's a reason sportsbooks don't cancel all bets that have had line movement against them. I also don't know where they got the 1.7 from that they mentioned in the email; OddsPortal seems to agree with your claim."
9. roosbit said: "IMO
FJs mistake should not be passed onto its players, they should take the hit and save face...just my 2cents!"
10.
cryptofrka (Hero Member) said: "
If the bet was accepted, it should be honored + paid out in full - according to the odds that were available at that moment. Morally -
FJ is 100% wrong from the start. As bookies, they have to be responsible for the odds they are offering. His bet should be paid out
in full - all the bets that are accepted on all the betting platforms should.
For me this is simply not acceptable. It is a business, OP did lose part of his effective balance.
As a community we should expect the industry's leaders (such as FJ) to keep high standards of transparency, fairness and even morality.
I do not agree with it at all, I think it is not appropriate behavior and I think it is borderline a
criminal act. What FJ should not be able to do
in any case whatsoever is to
keep his stake for themselves. That is a
criminal act for sure and it can be branded as theft, pure and simple. As a bare minimum, the stake must be returned to the player."
Finally, he said "[FortuneJack} made 2 consecutive technical mistakes. First one was to accept the bet with wrong odds, the next one was to offer the customer
options that were not options after all. I agree with EpicChamp that even if the provider was responsible for the wrong odds,
you as a site should take responsibility as well."
11. slaman29 (Sr. Member) said:
"Never had a bet canceled from odds changes"12.
shield132 (Hero Member) said: "If bet was made hours earlier before the match and
if the bet was canceled immediately (it wasn't), then there is nothing wrong with FJ, otherwise I wouldn't like that. And
if your partner did something wrong, users shouldn't [have to] pay for it. Everything comes down to how ethical you are."
13.
Haunebu (Hero Member) said:
"I agree that it is unethical and FJ have faced several issues like this in recent times"
14.
serjent05 (Legendary Member) said:
"EpicChamp indeed has some BTC to refund on that canceled bet, I don't know why FJ can't see this stuff. If the record of FJ tallies EpicChamp's story, he then will have no problem claiming those BTC for refunds." He also confirmed this by saying that "If what you are saying is true then I agree that
you deserve to claim your remaining stake"15. RokokGudangGaram (Full Member) said:
"This is not a proper cancellation especially if your bet has been accepted already, they can cancel the game if in case you haven't bet yet or the game hasn't started yet. It is not a proper way to handle your winnings especially if you successfully make your bet."
16. DreamerBT (Jr. Member) said: "Just because you know for your OWN bugs that doesn't mean the players know or should know it.
Your website BUGS is YOUR problem not the players itself."17. Even
Hhampuz (Legendary Member) who is one of the only people who for the most part seems to agree with you, said this: "It's different when they cancel the bet
quickly and long before the game is played. " - which did not happen because it was NOT canceled quickly at all. It was super late and at the time I wasn't even aware of it, that's how late it was.
That's like
15-17 members out of ~20 who all share the same viewpoint on this matter and
agree that what you are doing is morally & ethically wrong, and that you should have never canceled this bet in the 1st place. And if it hadn't been canceled, I would have won the bet for 0.174 BTC fair & square as I should.
This is not just MY opinion, but 15+ more members here (a lot of which are Hero or Legendary status too as you asked yourself) all agree with me and believe the same thing.
As further proof, I can try & upload some screenshots if you'd like of other betting sites who featured this match and honored it as a win for those who bet on De Jong.