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To me this situation is very simple.

The only reason to you it might look "complex", is because you decided to make it complex by canceling my bet (when it shouldn't have been done in the 1st place) when the match was played perfectly fine from start to finish without any delays, retirements, or disqualifications. The most simple thing would have been to keep it open and if the player I bet on won then I would have won the bet, and if he had lost then I would have lost it (as is always the case) and I would have 100% accepted it as such + moved on a long time ago.

But since you decided to wrongly cancel my bet and make this whole situation more "complex", I should not be the one who has to suffer or get penalized for what happened by being forced to share my personal + private information, which to me is extremely important, confidential, "sensitive", and is not something I am comfortable or willing to share with any gambling site online. It is not fair to force me to do something like this when all of this could have easily been avoided in the 1st place.

Plus, you seeing or knowing who I am or where I live or any other information you want isn't going to make any difference about the morality or the appropriate next steps for this situation. Because it's not about me, who I am or where I live - it's about what happened in this situation and doing the right thing which most members on here agree with me as well.

So I ask you to kindly respect my privacy and that we solve this over live chat or email without the need for any KYC.

Thanks in advance!

(After all, you're a crypto gambling site and allow other users to easily cash out even greater amounts without having to do KYC - so I think it's only fair that I can do so as well.

And at the end of the day, that's the whole point of using bitcoin to begin with and why I chose to bet on your site instead of a regular fiat bookie. Going against that is ironic and defeats the whole purpose of using bitcoins to make online purchases or transactions with others from anywhere in the world & without any documentation)

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As described earlier, the complexity of the case requires us as a company to get the KYC done.

You should have already received the email regarding the details we need from your end, let us know once you will be in.

If not, we will not be able to change a situation to a noticeable degree

There are so many cases where people won much greater bets than mine and were able to withdraw their funds without having to do KYC.

So why is it fair to me to have to send them my personal information for a much smaller amount when most people don't?

There is really no need to overcomplicate this situation when it can be easily solved in a simple manner.

Firstly, I vouch the company will solve the issue and the best to move forward with your issue is not about the company respecting your decision because every gambling site has its own rules and regulations. Besides, they can not operate outside the laws of their Master's licensed holder and regulated company.

What exactly is the point of me having to do KYC? What benefit does it bring to you at all?

Have I done anything illegal or suspicious to have to go through KYC?

I really don't understand the reason for it or see the need to do this (as do other members here), and would greatly appreciate it if you can respect my privacy and that we solve this without me having to do KYC or share my personal information. To me that is the most important thing.

It is also the primary reason I am using a crypto gambling site to bet with instead of a regular fiat one, so that I do not have to do KYC if I want to withdraw any bet. And I'm sure you've allowed thousands of users on your site to withdraw much larger amounts than mine without the need for KYC.

So kindly respect my privacy and I look forward to resolving this case the regular way soon.

Thanks!

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Despite having a huge respect to you, we cannot finalize the decision due to sensitivity of the case without going through the KYC.

Please kindly accept the request so we can move this forward.


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Team FJ

Thank you very much shield and LEVSKI for your insight & support, I really appreciate it!

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one (according to statistics) who is concerned about sharing their private information with an online gambling site (especially one from another country); and that requiring me to do a KYC & share my personal information in this particular situation is unnecessary or doesn't make much sense.

I really hope FortuneJack takes notice and will be able to cooperate with me without the need for KYC.

Thank you all once again, esp everyone who participated in the poll

I also received this 5mbtc bonus with the same requirements a few months ago.  I agree that the 40x requirement is quite steep but it is not impossible to meet.  I am able to meet the requirement of 40x wagering by simply playing across the slots available for that bonus.  Probably I just got lucky that time.

Is this casino connected to the site efbet = is a person from Bulgaria the owner

Because the claim from EpicChamp is incredibly ludicrous.

Their office is located in Tbilisi, Georgia and they have an amazing team, I disagree with the statement above that this casino is offshore, untrustworthy, etc. I have been in touch with some of their team members years ago and know them in real life but it doesn't matter right now. It's sad but some good people left FJ recently and moved in a different casino that's again Georgian but not crypto oriented.

Okay, I love FJ and there are a lot of reasons but I disagree with them in this case, finally, community think that EpicChamp is right. But now they ask for KYC and saying: Hey boy, send me your KYC and I'll tell you my final decision later. There are moments when KYC documents are requested, for example when it comes to suspicious money/account activity but why in this case?

And why do you protect FJ so strongly? In every sentence?

https://sbcnews.co.uk/social-responsibility/2021/02/01/entain-launches-consumer-representation-initiative-the-players-panel/
A further 73% are concerned about their privacy rights with regards to data sharing when participating in gambling activities, although 69% agreed that playing the lottery is a form of gambling, suggesting consumer support for the government’s decision to raise the age limit for playing the National Lottery.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/punter-wins-again-after-suing-7549724
again for a tennis bet

Please don't give me advice on what to do or what not to do with my money.

Plenty of people use crypto gambling sites (instead of fiat ones) specifically because they don't have to go through KYC if they ever want to withdraw any amount after winning a bet in BTC (or other currencies), and I know for a fact people are able to easily withdraw 0.2 BTC or more from FJ without having to do any KYC, so my request is very fair and is not too much to ask for a relatively small amount (in retrospect to wanting to withdraw 1BTC+ at current rates).

Anyways, you made it very clear that you personally don't agree with me and that's fine - you can have your own opinion. But the majority of people agree with me and I appreciate FJ for willing to cooperate with me on this situation.

Please stop spamming this thread for no reason and if you have nothing good to say, don't say anything.

Thanks!

If you want to value your privacy, you probably shouldn't use services where money is involved and the need for KYC is a likely outcome.

Just because you don't value your privacy or value money more than your privacy doesn't mean everyone else thinks the same.

All I ask is that FJ respects my privacy and we resolve this without me having to send them my personal information (which I never share with anyone online and is a very fair request).

It can be easily avoided because any other bet you place and win for virtually any amount you can always withdraw without KYC (esp for crypto gambling sites and if the amount is under $50k), so I don't see why this should be any different.

What do you mean exactly with "It can be easily avoided"?

I don't give a fuck to be honest about KYC if I use a service that gives me money > ESPECIALLY when I want them to do something ludicrous like.. paying for a bet that was canceled.

Not saying they are or any company that sets up their corporation in Curacao are crooks by any means, it's simply an affordable place to set up a corporation and a great way to avoid paying big taxes. I totally understand and respect that.

I just don't think KYC is needed for something like this when it can easily be solved without and it and I'm sure there have been countless of players who won big bets and were able to withdraw 0.2 btc+ without having to do any KYC, esp for crypto gambling sites.

What are you talking about dude? I never said such a thing. All I said was that in similar cases like mine where someone HAS taken a case like this to court, the judge always ruled in their favor. I did not make this up either, LEVSKI7 has shared many examples where this happened. That's all I said.

I'm sure you wouldn't want to KYC or give out your ID to ANY offshore company either for any reason when there is no need for it and it can be easily avoided.

What you do not understand, and never really understood, is the fact that sportsbooks can cancel bets before the game starts, the odds may change, and they are allowed to do that, why? Because the game did not start and you can bet it again if you want and if you think "new odds are not good, I wanted to bet on the better odds!!!" that is not something you get to do, that is not your right.

You keep saying things what they can or can't do, when in fact they already did what they can do and you are living the consequences of that. You say "so a bet can't be canceled for that" but the reality is that.. it was? So, that means it can be. Stop trying to find a way to get your money back or keep complaining because as long as the game is still away, they can cancel any bet they want, drop the odd, increase the odd, do whatever you want with the only thing that they can't do is cancel it AFTER the games start.