They better reverse their decision soon while I'm still being very nice about it. Most people would have been threatening them by now and going crazy, I'm still keeping it cool and explaining everything in a professional, mature, and logical way.
Is 0.174 BTC really worth more than their reputation? Please! They are probably profiting at least 0.5-1 BTC per day right now. They are making more than enough and I don't understand why they are acting like this and aren't willing to pay out my winning amount (or at least return the full stake of my bet).
I don't think you can achieve anything by repeating the same stuff over and over again. You have already made it crystal clear that FJ scammed you, but Hhampuz and the FJ reps have explained their reasoning multiple times already which is why this is all in the past now.
The result won't change no matter how much you complain. Instead, focus your efforts on more productive and constructive stuff which is the best way to move on in my opinion. Just my 2 cents.
You can't really change his idea, he is far gone already and has been for a while. Think about it this way, dude says "Is 0.174 btc worth their reputation?" as in like if fortunejack doesn't pay him, their reputation will be gone. He doesn't even realize that we do not care, doesn't even acknowledge what we are saying, he thinks either fortunejack bows down to him or he will ruin fortunejack forever and will make them bankrupt. He thinks he has that kind of power, so it is impossible for all of us to just talk to him and make him realize that other gamblers do not care about him.
I have seen plenty of people like him who vow to destroy a casino, hell I remember game-protect which attacked every single casino out there, they all eventually stop no matter how dedicated they are, so fortunejack definitely doesn't have anything they need to fear from just one person.
So are you saying that you agree with FortuneJack and think that what they did is right or fair? To cancel my bet for no valid reason (because of a change of odds from 2.6 to 1.7) and then keep the entire stake to themselves too without returning it back to me?
Have you EVER had a situation before where your bet was canceled for whatever reason, and that amount was not returned to you?
I can also technically take this to court and easily win this case if I wanted to, as has been proven several times here already for exactly the same situation against other bookies, but for much more extreme cases or "accidental" mistakes where bettors
deliberatly took advantage of unbelievable odds or error in odds from bookies (whereas in my case, that's far from the truth).
But I would much rather solve this in a more civilized & professional way and explain to everyone here why what they did is wrong and why I deserve to win my bet in full. So of course I backed it up with a lot of information and reasons to prove my case.
What else do you want me to do?
And how would YOU feel if you placed a bet in the thousands that a bookie canceled for no valid reason, denied your big win, and then refused to return to you your large stake?
Easy to not give a crap about others, but when it happens to you it's a completely different story.
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Don't lead the community in the wrong direction - that's a thing we've been trying since starting a discussion with you, to be honest.
1) stake wasn't left on our end - the actual cost from the standpoint of the casino was annulled.
2) the proofs of wrongly provided odds have been posted multiple times - you saying that all happened naturally and intentionally is wrong
3) bets are quite commonly cancelled along with the stakes returned - not the first and last case to see.
That's all I wanted to add.
The decision is final and as stated into another thread you made - the only thing that we can offer is a bonus of some sort of - if you agree.
If not, there's nothing to negotiate on from our point of view - as the decision is already final and supported by quite a few facts and community members.
Deposit back (same as the first stake placed as a bet) - funds received - no point to argue here anymore.
Let us know if you're in so we can discuss the bonus publicly if it's the case.
First off, 90%+ of all community members here
agree that what you did is wrong and that this bet should not have been canceled, refer to my recent post on my thread where I broke down to you what everyone had to say about this. Therefore, this means that I should be awarded the full win for 0.174 BTC for choosing the right player to win. (Much like I would have
lost this bet, the way the situation is right now, if my player had lost the match - but that didn't happen.)
Second, let me address your 3 points:
1. How was the stake
not kept to yourself when I had an open bet/stake of 0.0672 BTC @ 2.6 odds, and then after you canceled the bet super late right before the match was about to start, I did not get anything back and had a balance of 0? Where did this amount go exactly? Cuz it surely didn't go to me.
2. The odds that you posted were universal and all other bookies had the same odds + changes for this match (and all of them rewarded their users who picked De Jong to win, even at 2.6+ odds) - this is
fact #1. Then you supposedly posted the wrong odds, kept De Jong's odds between 2.6-3.0 for
2-3 hours on your site for people to bet on, and
despite being aware of this, you kept slowly dropping De Jong's odds by 0.2 units
every 30mins during this 2-3 hour timeframe (meaning you kept
intentionally changing the odds once they went live. Cuz you can post the wrong odds by accident, but you cannot
change them by accident for 2-3 hours. In other words, you were doing it
deliberetly) - this is
fact #2. The date of the email you received from "betrader" that you used as a screenshot on here was sent to you on December 31st, 2020 when the match took place on November 24th, 2020 - that is
fact #31 month later they can come up with any excuse and write whatever they want - why do I have to take their word for it & believe them, and then lose thousands of dollars because of THEIR mistake?
3. Exactly, you said it yourself. Any time bets are canceled the stake is always returned
in full to the bettor.
In my case, you canceled the bet and did
NOT return my stake because I had 0.0672 BTC at stake and then my balance was 0 - that is
fact #4The 0.139 BTC I got initially was a
partial cashout (for only 50%), it was not an amount that
you returned to me yourself because of a canceled bet. I cashed it out
on my own because I was
voluntarily given this option by you to allow me to do that, so I did. Are you going to blame & penalize me for this too after giving me this choice yourself? That is
fact #5 (And then I still had ~50% left on this bet which was a lot of money at stake, which is equivalent to around 2.5k USD right now).
You then sent me an email saying that you canceled the bet because of a
change of odds from 2.6-1.7. And you did not mention
anything in this email about it being a palpable or technical error. That is
fact #6Please get your facts straight and don't mislead the community with the wrong information.