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legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Are 1080s (non-Tis) interesting, considering the price drop?

1070's                      say it does 430h
1080's                      say it does 515h
1080 ti's                   say it does 700h


argue they all do the same watts per gh

So it is all  about price


 1080 ti   669  no tax free shipping   so 669/700 = 96 cents an h

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zotac-Video-Card-ZT-P10810A-10P-GTX-1080-Ti-Founders-Edition-11GB-GDDR5X-352-bit-/132157486663?


so find  a cheaper 1080 or a cheaper  1070   in cents to an h

all rough estimates
hero member
Activity: 615
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Are 1080s (non-Tis) interesting, considering the price drop?
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8899
'The right to privacy matters'
Phil - did you sell Pandaminer because of noise, power consumption or anything else?

Well I sold to a forum member that is in my state so 0 shipping cost.

I made about $180 profit this includes the coins I mined with it.

It is noisy.

Summer is coming = heat and power increase.

lastly  3 1080ti's = 2100  Sold the panda for 2020

the ti's  do 2100h in zec quietly  the panda did 2300h  with noise

power for the ti's 680 watts at the wall
power for the panda 1100 watts at the wall

I held the 2020usd in coin it is now 2450usd
I  used paypal credit 6 months to pay 0 interest for the 3 ti's


@ citronick  I have a tiny little asic  from isoneguy  it mines 30 cents to 50 cents a day  mining x11 I also cpu mine on that pc that is about 20 cents a day

the whole setup uses 35 watts  that is about 5 cents a day  will jump to 10 cents cost in the summer.  So I net maybe 18 dollars a month

http://www.baikalminer.com/product_view.php?ID=11

This one is about 795$ or probably cost of a 1080ti.
You can make around 8-9 dollars a day but at 95watts for 300 Mhs its simply an amazing piece of ASICs.
I have a farm of 25GHs X11 and it eats so little power - its unbelievable - install and forget.

Yeah I was wrong about these  I should have ordered a few when I had the chance.

But summer was coming up and  the garage needs less gear so I passed.  I got burned badly with LTC gridseed blades back in  2014 I did not mine asic's for alts since then.

Still ZEC is strong I am doing okay with the GPU's
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
Phil - did you sell Pandaminer because of noise, power consumption or anything else?

Well I sold to a forum member that is in my state so 0 shipping cost.

I made about $180 profit this includes the coins I mined with it.

It is noisy.

Summer is coming = heat and power increase.

lastly  3 1080ti's = 2100  Sold the panda for 2020

the ti's  do 2100h in zec quietly  the panda did 2300h  with noise

power for the ti's 680 watts at the wall
power for the panda 1100 watts at the wall

I held the 2020usd in coin it is now 2450usd
I  used paypal credit 6 months to pay 0 interest for the 3 ti's


@ citronick  I have a tiny little asic  from isoneguy  it mines 30 cents to 50 cents a day  mining x11 I also cpu mine on that pc that is about 20 cents a day

the whole setup uses 35 watts  that is about 5 cents a day  will jump to 10 cents cost in the summer.  So I net maybe 18 dollars a month

http://www.baikalminer.com/product_view.php?ID=11

This one is about 795$ or probably cost of a 1080ti.
You can make around 8-9 dollars a day but at 95watts for 300 Mhs its simply an amazing piece of ASICs.
I have a farm of 25GHs X11 and it eats so little power - its unbelievable - install and forget.
newbie
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ssd vs hd. no performance difference unless you rig reboots a lot, as longer boot time costs mining time. but its pretty insignificant and a well setup rig wont reboot except for external events like power sag/glitches.

main reason for ssds is when you set the rig up and tweak it, waiting for slow hds is maddening to me. driver reloads, os updates, miner restarts, all take more time and time is the one thing i value over most other things.

16 or 32 gb ssds are cheap and will allow windows, *nix and dual boot with room to spare. some OSs can use usb sticks also, smOS for example.

used hds in the past as i has plenty of them but all my rigs, miners or otherwise, now have ssds for os drive.

as for "t" series intel cpus, they are low power variants. saves on power costs. i have a 6400t in my htpc that i will probably move to my basement rig, which currently has a g1840. then ill toss a 6700t in the htpc. worth it if your power costs are a big concern.

I think I'm not going to OC too much or change the custom rom. Don't think the rig would reboot.
But it makes sense in case I would. I didn't knew about the T series of intel cpus, im learning here a lot with all of you.  Wink


you have a free hdd use it.
I look for  cheap  deals on used ssds on ebay.
I have been with ebay since 2003  and sometimes  they have great ssd deals
I buy lots of 10 small sized 16gb for smOS  at 5 bucks an ssd

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kingston-16-GB-M-2-NGFF-mSATA-SSD-Chromebooks-Acer-/201888633168?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/lot-of-10-x-Kingston-16-GB-M-2-NGFF-SSD-SUPER-FAST-SAME-DAY-SHIPPING-/252588846475?


these above are really good for smOS if your mobo can use them  this is why I get newer mobos with z270 chips


http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=philipma1957

this is my feedback on ebay  I don't sell much anymore but still buy a lot.


I will be doing a compact 2 card build very soon.

one of these ssds
http://www.ebay.com/itm/lot-of-10-x-Kingston-16-GB-M-2-NGFF-SSD-SUPER-FAST-SAME-DAY-SHIPPING-/252588846475?
this psu
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262772079663
this cpu
http://www.ebay.com/itm/132130890997
this mobo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/302265978202
this ram
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kingston-HyperX-Fury-Memory-Black-4GB-Module-DDR4-2133MHz-/302180412969?
2 of these cards
https://www.amazon.com/STRIX-Radeon-Polaris-Graphics-STRIX-RX480-O8G-GAMING/dp/B01J3TZJOA/ref=sr_1_2?


i can expand this mobo to 4 cards using 2 risers
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281383006276

I can put it in a case  if a miner gamer wants me to
It will be a  quiet miner  good for an apartment dweller that has a good power deal.

Alright!  Cheesy
I got plenty of old HDDs so ill finally find a use to them.
Your ebay profile is 10/10 very good, not even a single negative.

I would like to have everything right now... im so impatient  Cool

Meanwhile... ill be looking what are the best miners out there to use with the nvidia(I know you already posted some, but on this forum is plenty of stuff).
Atleast my idea is going on nicehash equihash, dcred, mining zec and see what else is worth of getting profit.
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8899
'The right to privacy matters'
Thanks for all the other replys @JaredKaragen and @vapourminer, about the risers I knew it but forgot to mention at the post I made. I've got a seller for that, there's no problem Smiley)
Also I got some old HDD that I could use to mount. So I think I won't be buying any SSD, unless you tell me that does affect or somehow improves performance on mining.

ssd vs hd. no performance difference unless you rig reboots a lot, as longer boot time costs mining time. but its pretty insignificant and a well setup rig wont reboot except for external events like power sag/glitches.

main reason for ssds is when you set the rig up and tweak it, waiting for slow hds is maddening to me. driver reloads, os updates, miner restarts, all take more time and time is the one thing i value over most other things.

16 or 32 gb ssds are cheap and will allow windows, *nix and dual boot with room to spare. some OSs can use usb sticks also, smOS for example.

used hds in the past as i has plenty of them but all rigs now have ssds.

you have a free hdd use it.
I look for  cheap  deals on used ssds on ebay.
I have been with ebay since 2003  and sometimes  they have great ssd deals
I buy lots of 10 small sized 16gb for smOS  at 5 bucks an ssd

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kingston-16-GB-M-2-NGFF-mSATA-SSD-Chromebooks-Acer-/201888633168?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/lot-of-10-x-Kingston-16-GB-M-2-NGFF-SSD-SUPER-FAST-SAME-DAY-SHIPPING-/252588846475?


these above are really good for smOS if your mobo can use them  this is why I get newer mobos with z270 chips


http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=philipma1957

this is my feedback on ebay  I don't sell much anymore but still buy a lot.


I will be doing a compact 2 card build very soon.

one of these ssds
http://www.ebay.com/itm/lot-of-10-x-Kingston-16-GB-M-2-NGFF-SSD-SUPER-FAST-SAME-DAY-SHIPPING-/252588846475?
this psu
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262772079663
this cpu
http://www.ebay.com/itm/132130890997
this mobo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/302265978202
this ram
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kingston-HyperX-Fury-Memory-Black-4GB-Module-DDR4-2133MHz-/302180412969?
2 of these cards
https://www.amazon.com/STRIX-Radeon-Polaris-Graphics-STRIX-RX480-O8G-GAMING/dp/B01J3TZJOA/ref=sr_1_2?


i can expand this mobo to 4 cards using 2 risers
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281383006276

I can put it in a case  if a miner gamer wants me to
It will be a  quiet miner  good for an apartment dweller that has a good power deal.
legendary
Activity: 4354
Merit: 3614
what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
Thanks for all the other replys @JaredKaragen and @vapourminer, about the risers I knew it but forgot to mention at the post I made. I've got a seller for that, there's no problem Smiley)
Also I got some old HDD that I could use to mount. So I think I won't be buying any SSD, unless you tell me that does affect or somehow improves performance on mining.

ssd vs hd. no performance difference unless you rig reboots a lot, as longer boot time costs mining time. but its pretty insignificant and a well setup rig wont reboot except for external events like power sag/glitches.

main reason for ssds is when you set the rig up and tweak it, waiting for slow hds is maddening to me. driver reloads, os updates, miner restarts, all take more time and time is the one thing i value over most other things.

16 or 32 gb ssds are cheap and will allow windows, *nix and dual boot with room to spare. some OSs can use usb sticks also, smOS for example.

used hds in the past as i has plenty of them but all my rigs, miners or otherwise, now have ssds for os drive.

as for "t" series intel cpus, they are low power variants. saves on power costs. i have a 6400t in my htpc that i will probably move to my basement rig, which currently has a g1840. then ill toss a 6700t in the htpc. worth it if your power costs are a big concern.
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8899
'The right to privacy matters'
Phil - did you sell Pandaminer because of noise, power consumption or anything else?

Well I sold to a forum member that is in my state so 0 shipping cost.

I made about $180 profit this includes the coins I mined with it.

It is noisy.

Summer is coming = heat and power increase.

lastly  3 1080ti's = 2100  Sold the panda for 2020

the ti's  do 2100h in zec quietly  the panda did 2300h  with noise

power for the ti's 680 watts at the wall
power for the panda 1100 watts at the wall

I held the 2020usd in coin it is now 2450usd
I  used paypal credit 6 months to pay 0 interest for the 3 ti's


@ citronick  I have a tiny little asic  from isoneguy  it mines 30 cents to 50 cents a day  mining x11 I also cpu mine on that pc that is about 20 cents a day

the whole setup uses 35 watts  that is about 5 cents a day  will jump to 10 cents cost in the summer.  So I net maybe 18 dollars a month
newbie
Activity: 39
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okay  there are serval reasons I picked those cpu's  they are the t version and will save power.  I use better t models and did not mention them because they are more costly .  i5 6400t  are really good and I get them around 120 usd on eBay .

I can get away with this   because  I buy and sell them on eBay.  They are one of the few things  that buyers find hard to cheat you with when you sell them on eBay.

i like newer mobos the z270 or b250

vs the older mobos.  If you are building 10 rigs and putting in 15k usd to build them  six card rigs make sense

If you are doing 1 rig I don't think a six card rig is the way to go.

lets say  you buy this mobo build a six card rig and the expensive psu dies  all six gpus are not mining

and you will need a new psu.  and those big ass psu's cost money.

I don't knock six card rigs but they are loud  as they are really fucking hot.

my 3 card rigs are quiet and not hot and evga 750 p2 plats  can be had for 125 on sale while the evga 1600 p2 plat

is over 350.  so I can buy 3 psus for the price of one.

if you run smOS for your rig  a 10 dollar usb stick does the job.  no windows involved .

there are os for nvidia but I am pretty new with nvidia so I am using windows 7


I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.

I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1   power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.

When the vegas come out I will get one or two.

I am doing nvidia and zec  for 4 or 5 months.

Thanks for the quick answer I now understand everything.
Ill be trying out how simplemining works, smOS and then windows. And see what fits better.
Ill take everything you said in mind make a few changes and go for it.  Grin

Yeah on this site we have :

a small hobby miner = a one or two card rig
A medium hobby miner = 3 to 10 cards maybe 2 rigs.
A full size hobby miner = 10 to 20 cards
A large hobby miner = 20 to 50 cards

Must of us are in house so for some of us quiet gear has a big factor.
So' two card three card rigs even four card rigs are easy to manage.

Once you get to fifty cards six card rigs look good.

Even eight card rigs like the panda miner look nice to a guy looking to run  100 cards.

But 13  eight card panda miner will be really loud.

I  know one guy has 28 of them he wrote a review on them.

Yep I noticed Cheesy

I have been really lucky since at the last moment before doing the order a new seller with the asrock BTC appeared and got his MB, a few hours later he ran again out of stock, lol.

I'm living on a flat, pretty different from living in a house. But I still can leave the rig on a room and begin my test there.

Next week the order arrive, let's see how it goes, by then Ill be another little miner from here Smiley
legendary
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---- winter*juvia -----
Phil -- I see you have an X11 miner in your NH dashboard...?
hero member
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Phil - did you sell Pandaminer because of noise, power consumption or anything else?
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8899
'The right to privacy matters'
okay  there are serval reasons I picked those cpu's  they are the t version and will save power.  I use better t models and did not mention them because they are more costly .  i5 6400t  are really good and I get them around 120 usd on eBay .

I can get away with this   because  I buy and sell them on eBay.  They are one of the few things  that buyers find hard to cheat you with when you sell them on eBay.

i like newer mobos the z270 or b250

vs the older mobos.  If you are building 10 rigs and putting in 15k usd to build them  six card rigs make sense

If you are doing 1 rig I don't think a six card rig is the way to go.

lets say  you buy this mobo build a six card rig and the expensive psu dies  all six gpus are not mining

and you will need a new psu.  and those big ass psu's cost money.

I don't knock six card rigs but they are loud  as they are really fucking hot.

my 3 card rigs are quiet and not hot and evga 750 p2 plats  can be had for 125 on sale while the evga 1600 p2 plat

is over 350.  so I can buy 3 psus for the price of one.

if you run smOS for your rig  a 10 dollar usb stick does the job.  no windows involved .

there are os for nvidia but I am pretty new with nvidia so I am using windows 7


I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.

I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1   power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.

When the vegas come out I will get one or two.

I am doing nvidia and zec  for 4 or 5 months.

Thanks for the quick answer I now understand everything.
Ill be trying out how simplemining works, smOS and then windows. And see what fits better.
Ill take everything you said in mind make a few changes and go for it.  Grin

Yeah on this site we have :

a small hobby miner = a one or two card rig
A medium hobby miner = 3 to 10 cards maybe 2 rigs.
A full size hobby miner = 10 to 20 cards
A large hobby miner = 20 to 50 cards

Must of us are in house so for some of us quiet gear has a big factor.
So' two card three card rigs even four card rigs are easy to manage.

Once you get to fifty cards six card rigs look good.

Even eight card rigs like the panda miner look nice to a guy looking to run  100 cards.

But 13  eight card panda miner will be really loud.

I  know one guy has 28 of them he wrote a review on them.
 




newbie
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okay  there are serval reasons I picked those cpu's  they are the t version and will save power.  I use better t models and did not mention them because they are more costly .  i5 6400t  are really good and I get them around 120 usd on eBay .

I can get away with this   because  I buy and sell them on eBay.  They are one of the few things  that buyers find hard to cheat you with when you sell them on eBay.

i like newer mobos the z270 or b250

vs the older mobos.  If you are building 10 rigs and putting in 15k usd to build them  six card rigs make sense

If you are doing 1 rig I don't think a six card rig is the way to go.

lets say  you buy this mobo build a six card rig and the expensive psu dies  all six gpus are not mining

and you will need a new psu.  and those big ass psu's cost money.

I don't knock six card rigs but they are loud  as they are really fucking hot.

my 3 card rigs are quiet and not hot and evga 750 p2 plats  can be had for 125 on sale while the evga 1600 p2 plat

is over 350.  so I can buy 3 psus for the price of one.

if you run smOS for your rig  a 10 dollar usb stick does the job.  no windows involved .

there are os for nvidia but I am pretty new with nvidia so I am using windows 7


I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.

I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1   power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.

When the vegas come out I will get one or two.

I am doing nvidia and zec  for 4 or 5 months.

Thanks for the quick answer I now understand everything.
Ill be trying out how simplemining works, smOS and then windows. And see what fits better.
Ill take everything you said in mind make a few changes and go for it.  Grin
hero member
Activity: 742
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Say a 1080ti = 700h/s for Zcash = $700 USD

An rx 470, if you undervolt to 1000 core/1750 mem/800mv gives 220 - 240h/s and power draw of 50 - 65W from wall I think?

No - you are wrong. It will be ~95W

Efficiency is still worse than 1080ti (not that much worse though), but we can buy 4 - 5 Rx 470 for the price of a single 1080ti.

No - you cannot buy 4-5 new rx 470 for $700
hero member
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Where can you find a card for $600? For that price, I may finally jump in

purse.io
hero member
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Say a 1080ti = 700h/s for Zcash = $700 USD

An rx 470, if you undervolt to 1000 core/1750 mem/800mv gives 220 - 240h/s and power draw of 50 - 65W from wall I think? Efficiency is still worse than 1080ti (not that much worse though), but we can buy 4 - 5 Rx 470 for the price of a single 1080ti.



For some, though, rig density matters....
sr. member
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Say a 1080ti = 700h/s for Zcash = $700 USD

An rx 470, if you undervolt to 1000 core/1750 mem/800mv gives 220 - 240h/s and power draw of 50 - 65W from wall I think? Efficiency is still worse than 1080ti (not that much worse though), but we can buy 4 - 5 Rx 470 for the price of a single 1080ti.

hero member
Activity: 615
Merit: 500

I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.

I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1   power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.

When the vegas come out I will get one or two.

I am doing nvidia and zec  for 4 or 5 months.

Yeah - I forgot about your seasonal sale of cards due to power cost rise.

I'm very intrigued on Nvidia 1080ti cards. There is a possibility to buy MSI GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition for ~$600. Only thing I hate - to find a person who can mod BIOS for me. Usually it is at least 0.2 BTC (which does not make sense for one card only).

Where can you find a card for $600? For that price, I may finally jump in
hero member
Activity: 742
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I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.

I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1   power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.

When the vegas come out I will get one or two.

I am doing nvidia and zec  for 4 or 5 months.

Yeah - I forgot about your seasonal sale of cards due to power cost rise.

I'm very intrigued on Nvidia 1080ti cards. There is a possibility to buy MSI GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition for ~$600. Only thing I hate - to find a person who can mod BIOS for me. Usually it is at least 0.2 BTC (which does not make sense for one card only).
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8899
'The right to privacy matters'
okay  there are serval reasons I picked those cpu's  they are the t version and will save power.  I use better t models and did not mention them because they are more costly .  i5 6400t  are really good and I get them around 120 usd on eBay .

I can get away with this   because  I buy and sell them on eBay.  They are one of the few things  that buyers find hard to cheat you with when you sell them on eBay.

i like newer mobos the z270 or b250

vs the older mobos.  If you are building 10 rigs and putting in 15k usd to build them  six card rigs make sense

If you are doing 1 rig I don't think a six card rig is the way to go.

lets say  you buy this mobo build a six card rig and the expensive psu dies  all six gpus are not mining

and you will need a new psu.  and those big ass psu's cost money.

I don't knock six card rigs but they are loud  as they are really fucking hot.

my 3 card rigs are quiet and not hot and evga 750 p2 plats  can be had for 125 on sale while the evga 1600 p2 plat

is over 350.  so I can buy 3 psus for the price of one.

if you run smOS for your rig  a 10 dollar usb stick does the job.  no windows involved .

there are os for nvidia but I am pretty new with nvidia so I am using windows 7


I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.

I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1   power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.

When the vegas come out I will get one or two.

I am doing nvidia and zec  for 4 or 5 months.
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