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Noob question - can you mine with GPUs on normal PCI (1.0?) slots?
Bought a NIB 1070 on CL for $300. Need to set up an nVidia-driver-loaded machine tonight to test it out.
so if it works it will do 430-450h
thats a good price.
I got a deal on eBay for a 1080ti
669 free shipping and eBay has an 8% sale today [ebucks] so 615.48 with 6 months to pay no interest no payments due until six months.
nib from a major eBay seller.
I will be moving up the nvidia to
6 1080ti 3900h
1 1080 500h
2 1070 880h
1 1060 320h
total of 5600-5800h nvidia
and about
8 rx 480's 2300h
roughly 8000h
Are 1080s (non-Tis) interesting, considering the price drop?
a winner for $420-430.
1080 makes above $100/mo and uses around $10 in electricity.
yes, it is expensive per unit, but 20% better in ROI, in my opinion.
If Vega will be close to nothing special (and judging how 570/580 are it could be), 1080 would still be worth above $350 in a year.
Bought a NIB 1070 on CL for $300. Need to set up an nVidia-driver-loaded machine tonight to test it out.
Are 1080s (non-Tis) interesting, considering the price drop?
1070's say it does 430h
1080's say it does 515h
1080 ti's say it does 700h
argue they all do the same watts per gh
So it is all about price
1080 ti 669 no tax free shipping so 669/700 = 96 cents an h
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Zotac-Video-Card-ZT-P10810A-10P-GTX-1080-Ti-Founders-Edition-11GB-GDDR5X-352-bit-/132157486663?
so find a cheaper 1080 or a cheaper 1070 in cents to an h
all rough estimates
Are 1080s (non-Tis) interesting, considering the price drop?
Phil - did you sell Pandaminer because of noise, power consumption or anything else?
Well I sold to a forum member that is in my state so 0 shipping cost.
I made about $180 profit this includes the coins I mined with it.
It is noisy.
Summer is coming = heat and power increase.
lastly 3 1080ti's = 2100 Sold the panda for 2020
the ti's do 2100h in zec quietly the panda did 2300h with noise
power for the ti's 680 watts at the wall
power for the panda 1100 watts at the wall
I held the 2020usd in coin it is now 2450usd
I used paypal credit 6 months to pay 0 interest for the 3 ti's
@ citronick I have a tiny little asic from isoneguy it mines 30 cents to 50 cents a day mining x11 I also cpu mine on that pc that is about 20 cents a day
the whole setup uses 35 watts that is about 5 cents a day will jump to 10 cents cost in the summer. So I net maybe 18 dollars a month
http://www.baikalminer.com/product_view.php?ID=11
This one is about 795$ or probably cost of a 1080ti.
You can make around 8-9 dollars a day but at 95watts for 300 Mhs its simply an amazing piece of ASICs.
I have a farm of 25GHs X11 and it eats so little power - its unbelievable - install and forget.
Yeah I was wrong about these I should have ordered a few when I had the chance.
But summer was coming up and the garage needs less gear so I passed. I got burned badly with LTC gridseed blades back in 2014 I did not mine asic's for alts since then.
Still ZEC is strong I am doing okay with the GPU's
Phil - did you sell Pandaminer because of noise, power consumption or anything else?
Well I sold to a forum member that is in my state so 0 shipping cost.
I made about $180 profit this includes the coins I mined with it.
It is noisy.
Summer is coming = heat and power increase.
lastly 3 1080ti's = 2100 Sold the panda for 2020
the ti's do 2100h in zec quietly the panda did 2300h with noise
power for the ti's 680 watts at the wall
power for the panda 1100 watts at the wall
I held the 2020usd in coin it is now 2450usd
I used paypal credit 6 months to pay 0 interest for the 3 ti's
@ citronick I have a tiny little asic from isoneguy it mines 30 cents to 50 cents a day mining x11 I also cpu mine on that pc that is about 20 cents a day
the whole setup uses 35 watts that is about 5 cents a day will jump to 10 cents cost in the summer. So I net maybe 18 dollars a month
http://www.baikalminer.com/product_view.php?ID=11
This one is about 795$ or probably cost of a 1080ti.
You can make around 8-9 dollars a day but at 95watts for 300 Mhs its simply an amazing piece of ASICs.
I have a farm of 25GHs X11 and it eats so little power - its unbelievable - install and forget.
Thanks for all the other replys @JaredKaragen and @vapourminer, about the risers I knew it but forgot to mention at the post I made. I've got a seller for that, there's no problem 
)
Also I got some old HDD that I could use to mount. So I think I won't be buying any SSD, unless you tell me that does affect or somehow improves performance on mining.
)Also I got some old HDD that I could use to mount. So I think I won't be buying any SSD, unless you tell me that does affect or somehow improves performance on mining.
ssd vs hd. no performance difference unless you rig reboots a lot, as longer boot time costs mining time. but its pretty insignificant and a well setup rig wont reboot except for external events like power sag/glitches.
main reason for ssds is when you set the rig up and tweak it, waiting for slow hds is maddening to me. driver reloads, os updates, miner restarts, all take more time and time is the one thing i value over most other things.
16 or 32 gb ssds are cheap and will allow windows, *nix and dual boot with room to spare. some OSs can use usb sticks also, smOS for example.
used hds in the past as i has plenty of them but all rigs now have ssds.
you have a free hdd use it.
I look for cheap deals on used ssds on ebay.
I have been with ebay since 2003 and sometimes they have great ssd deals
I buy lots of 10 small sized 16gb for smOS at 5 bucks an ssd
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kingston-16-GB-M-2-NGFF-mSATA-SSD-Chromebooks-Acer-/201888633168?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/lot-of-10-x-Kingston-16-GB-M-2-NGFF-SSD-SUPER-FAST-SAME-DAY-SHIPPING-/252588846475?
these above are really good for smOS if your mobo can use them this is why I get newer mobos with z270 chips
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=philipma1957
this is my feedback on ebay I don't sell much anymore but still buy a lot.
I will be doing a compact 2 card build very soon.
one of these ssds
http://www.ebay.com/itm/lot-of-10-x-Kingston-16-GB-M-2-NGFF-SSD-SUPER-FAST-SAME-DAY-SHIPPING-/252588846475?
this psu
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262772079663
this cpu
http://www.ebay.com/itm/132130890997
this mobo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/302265978202
this ram
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kingston-HyperX-Fury-Memory-Black-4GB-Module-DDR4-2133MHz-/302180412969?
2 of these cards
https://www.amazon.com/STRIX-Radeon-Polaris-Graphics-STRIX-RX480-O8G-GAMING/dp/B01J3TZJOA/ref=sr_1_2?
i can expand this mobo to 4 cards using 2 risers
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281383006276
I can put it in a case if a miner gamer wants me to
It will be a quiet miner good for an apartment dweller that has a good power deal.
Thanks for all the other replys @JaredKaragen and @vapourminer, about the risers I knew it but forgot to mention at the post I made. I've got a seller for that, there's no problem )
Also I got some old HDD that I could use to mount. So I think I won't be buying any SSD, unless you tell me that does affect or somehow improves performance on mining.
)Also I got some old HDD that I could use to mount. So I think I won't be buying any SSD, unless you tell me that does affect or somehow improves performance on mining.
ssd vs hd. no performance difference unless you rig reboots a lot, as longer boot time costs mining time. but its pretty insignificant and a well setup rig wont reboot except for external events like power sag/glitches.
main reason for ssds is when you set the rig up and tweak it, waiting for slow hds is maddening to me. driver reloads, os updates, miner restarts, all take more time and time is the one thing i value over most other things.
16 or 32 gb ssds are cheap and will allow windows, *nix and dual boot with room to spare. some OSs can use usb sticks also, smOS for example.
used hds in the past as i has plenty of them but all my rigs, miners or otherwise, now have ssds for os drive.
as for "t" series intel cpus, they are low power variants. saves on power costs. i have a 6400t in my htpc that i will probably move to my basement rig, which currently has a g1840. then ill toss a 6700t in the htpc. worth it if your power costs are a big concern.
Phil - did you sell Pandaminer because of noise, power consumption or anything else?
Well I sold to a forum member that is in my state so 0 shipping cost.
I made about $180 profit this includes the coins I mined with it.
It is noisy.
Summer is coming = heat and power increase.
lastly 3 1080ti's = 2100 Sold the panda for 2020
the ti's do 2100h in zec quietly the panda did 2300h with noise
power for the ti's 680 watts at the wall
power for the panda 1100 watts at the wall
I held the 2020usd in coin it is now 2450usd
I used paypal credit 6 months to pay 0 interest for the 3 ti's
@ citronick I have a tiny little asic from isoneguy it mines 30 cents to 50 cents a day mining x11 I also cpu mine on that pc that is about 20 cents a day
the whole setup uses 35 watts that is about 5 cents a day will jump to 10 cents cost in the summer. So I net maybe 18 dollars a month
okay there are serval reasons I picked those cpu's they are the t version and will save power. I use better t models and did not mention them because they are more costly . i5 6400t are really good and I get them around 120 usd on eBay .
I can get away with this because I buy and sell them on eBay. They are one of the few things that buyers find hard to cheat you with when you sell them on eBay.
i like newer mobos the z270 or b250
vs the older mobos. If you are building 10 rigs and putting in 15k usd to build them six card rigs make sense
If you are doing 1 rig I don't think a six card rig is the way to go.
lets say you buy this mobo build a six card rig and the expensive psu dies all six gpus are not mining
and you will need a new psu. and those big ass psu's cost money.
I don't knock six card rigs but they are loud as they are really fucking hot.
my 3 card rigs are quiet and not hot and evga 750 p2 plats can be had for 125 on sale while the evga 1600 p2 plat
is over 350. so I can buy 3 psus for the price of one.
if you run smOS for your rig a 10 dollar usb stick does the job. no windows involved .
there are os for nvidia but I am pretty new with nvidia so I am using windows 7
I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.
I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1 power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.
When the vegas come out I will get one or two.
I am doing nvidia and zec for 4 or 5 months.
I can get away with this because I buy and sell them on eBay. They are one of the few things that buyers find hard to cheat you with when you sell them on eBay.
i like newer mobos the z270 or b250
vs the older mobos. If you are building 10 rigs and putting in 15k usd to build them six card rigs make sense
If you are doing 1 rig I don't think a six card rig is the way to go.
lets say you buy this mobo build a six card rig and the expensive psu dies all six gpus are not mining
and you will need a new psu. and those big ass psu's cost money.
I don't knock six card rigs but they are loud as they are really fucking hot.
my 3 card rigs are quiet and not hot and evga 750 p2 plats can be had for 125 on sale while the evga 1600 p2 plat
is over 350. so I can buy 3 psus for the price of one.
if you run smOS for your rig a 10 dollar usb stick does the job. no windows involved .
there are os for nvidia but I am pretty new with nvidia so I am using windows 7
I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.
I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1 power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.
When the vegas come out I will get one or two.
I am doing nvidia and zec for 4 or 5 months.
Thanks for the quick answer I now understand everything.
Ill be trying out how simplemining works, smOS and then windows. And see what fits better.
Ill take everything you said in mind make a few changes and go for it.
Yeah on this site we have :
a small hobby miner = a one or two card rig
A medium hobby miner = 3 to 10 cards maybe 2 rigs.
A full size hobby miner = 10 to 20 cards
A large hobby miner = 20 to 50 cards
Must of us are in house so for some of us quiet gear has a big factor.
So' two card three card rigs even four card rigs are easy to manage.
Once you get to fifty cards six card rigs look good.
Even eight card rigs like the panda miner look nice to a guy looking to run 100 cards.
But 13 eight card panda miner will be really loud.
I know one guy has 28 of them he wrote a review on them.
Yep I noticed
I have been really lucky since at the last moment before doing the order a new seller with the asrock BTC appeared and got his MB, a few hours later he ran again out of stock, lol.
I'm living on a flat, pretty different from living in a house. But I still can leave the rig on a room and begin my test there.
Next week the order arrive, let's see how it goes, by then Ill be another little miner from here
Phil -- I see you have an X11 miner in your NH dashboard...?
Phil - did you sell Pandaminer because of noise, power consumption or anything else?
okay there are serval reasons I picked those cpu's they are the t version and will save power. I use better t models and did not mention them because they are more costly . i5 6400t are really good and I get them around 120 usd on eBay .
I can get away with this because I buy and sell them on eBay. They are one of the few things that buyers find hard to cheat you with when you sell them on eBay.
i like newer mobos the z270 or b250
vs the older mobos. If you are building 10 rigs and putting in 15k usd to build them six card rigs make sense
If you are doing 1 rig I don't think a six card rig is the way to go.
lets say you buy this mobo build a six card rig and the expensive psu dies all six gpus are not mining
and you will need a new psu. and those big ass psu's cost money.
I don't knock six card rigs but they are loud as they are really fucking hot.
my 3 card rigs are quiet and not hot and evga 750 p2 plats can be had for 125 on sale while the evga 1600 p2 plat
is over 350. so I can buy 3 psus for the price of one.
if you run smOS for your rig a 10 dollar usb stick does the job. no windows involved .
there are os for nvidia but I am pretty new with nvidia so I am using windows 7
I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.
I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1 power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.
When the vegas come out I will get one or two.
I am doing nvidia and zec for 4 or 5 months.
I can get away with this because I buy and sell them on eBay. They are one of the few things that buyers find hard to cheat you with when you sell them on eBay.
i like newer mobos the z270 or b250
vs the older mobos. If you are building 10 rigs and putting in 15k usd to build them six card rigs make sense
If you are doing 1 rig I don't think a six card rig is the way to go.
lets say you buy this mobo build a six card rig and the expensive psu dies all six gpus are not mining
and you will need a new psu. and those big ass psu's cost money.
I don't knock six card rigs but they are loud as they are really fucking hot.
my 3 card rigs are quiet and not hot and evga 750 p2 plats can be had for 125 on sale while the evga 1600 p2 plat
is over 350. so I can buy 3 psus for the price of one.
if you run smOS for your rig a 10 dollar usb stick does the job. no windows involved .
there are os for nvidia but I am pretty new with nvidia so I am using windows 7
I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.
I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1 power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.
When the vegas come out I will get one or two.
I am doing nvidia and zec for 4 or 5 months.
Thanks for the quick answer I now understand everything.
Ill be trying out how simplemining works, smOS and then windows. And see what fits better.
Ill take everything you said in mind make a few changes and go for it.
Yeah on this site we have :
a small hobby miner = a one or two card rig
A medium hobby miner = 3 to 10 cards maybe 2 rigs.
A full size hobby miner = 10 to 20 cards
A large hobby miner = 20 to 50 cards
Must of us are in house so for some of us quiet gear has a big factor.
So' two card three card rigs even four card rigs are easy to manage.
Once you get to fifty cards six card rigs look good.
Even eight card rigs like the panda miner look nice to a guy looking to run 100 cards.
But 13 eight card panda miner will be really loud.
I know one guy has 28 of them he wrote a review on them.
okay there are serval reasons I picked those cpu's they are the t version and will save power. I use better t models and did not mention them because they are more costly . i5 6400t are really good and I get them around 120 usd on eBay .
I can get away with this because I buy and sell them on eBay. They are one of the few things that buyers find hard to cheat you with when you sell them on eBay.
i like newer mobos the z270 or b250
vs the older mobos. If you are building 10 rigs and putting in 15k usd to build them six card rigs make sense
If you are doing 1 rig I don't think a six card rig is the way to go.
lets say you buy this mobo build a six card rig and the expensive psu dies all six gpus are not mining
and you will need a new psu. and those big ass psu's cost money.
I don't knock six card rigs but they are loud as they are really fucking hot.
my 3 card rigs are quiet and not hot and evga 750 p2 plats can be had for 125 on sale while the evga 1600 p2 plat
is over 350. so I can buy 3 psus for the price of one.
if you run smOS for your rig a 10 dollar usb stick does the job. no windows involved .
there are os for nvidia but I am pretty new with nvidia so I am using windows 7
I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.
I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1 power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.
When the vegas come out I will get one or two.
I am doing nvidia and zec for 4 or 5 months.
I can get away with this because I buy and sell them on eBay. They are one of the few things that buyers find hard to cheat you with when you sell them on eBay.
i like newer mobos the z270 or b250
vs the older mobos. If you are building 10 rigs and putting in 15k usd to build them six card rigs make sense
If you are doing 1 rig I don't think a six card rig is the way to go.
lets say you buy this mobo build a six card rig and the expensive psu dies all six gpus are not mining
and you will need a new psu. and those big ass psu's cost money.
I don't knock six card rigs but they are loud as they are really fucking hot.
my 3 card rigs are quiet and not hot and evga 750 p2 plats can be had for 125 on sale while the evga 1600 p2 plat
is over 350. so I can buy 3 psus for the price of one.
if you run smOS for your rig a 10 dollar usb stick does the job. no windows involved .
there are os for nvidia but I am pretty new with nvidia so I am using windows 7
I won't be getting any rx 570's or rx 580's until the fall.
I need to cut back for the June 1 to Oct 1 power rates 2x say 9.7 to 19 cents a kwatt.
When the vegas come out I will get one or two.
I am doing nvidia and zec for 4 or 5 months.
Thanks for the quick answer I now understand everything.
Ill be trying out how simplemining works, smOS and then windows. And see what fits better.
Ill take everything you said in mind make a few changes and go for it.
Say a 1080ti = 700h/s for Zcash = $700 USD
An rx 470, if you undervolt to 1000 core/1750 mem/800mv gives 220 - 240h/s and power draw of 50 - 65W from wall I think?
An rx 470, if you undervolt to 1000 core/1750 mem/800mv gives 220 - 240h/s and power draw of 50 - 65W from wall I think?
No - you are wrong. It will be ~95W
Efficiency is still worse than 1080ti (not that much worse though), but we can buy 4 - 5 Rx 470 for the price of a single 1080ti.
No - you cannot buy 4-5 new rx 470 for $700
Where can you find a card for $600? For that price, I may finally jump in
purse.io
Say a 1080ti = 700h/s for Zcash = $700 USD
An rx 470, if you undervolt to 1000 core/1750 mem/800mv gives 220 - 240h/s and power draw of 50 - 65W from wall I think? Efficiency is still worse than 1080ti (not that much worse though), but we can buy 4 - 5 Rx 470 for the price of a single 1080ti.
An rx 470, if you undervolt to 1000 core/1750 mem/800mv gives 220 - 240h/s and power draw of 50 - 65W from wall I think? Efficiency is still worse than 1080ti (not that much worse though), but we can buy 4 - 5 Rx 470 for the price of a single 1080ti.
For some, though, rig density matters....
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