Topic: Gambling Money is Dirty Money - page 17. (Read 5177 times)
I can't resist if gambling is a something that can considered as a sin. Maybe that is why it is prohibited by government from a lot of countries. But i still play it. Sometime for me, gambling is when you play it and bet with money. But if play only for fun maybe like in web game like facebook game that allow us to play poker, i not think if that is gambling because not use our real money.
The old-fashioned view will always be the same, gambling money is dirty money, nothing can be changed here. Parents or older relatives often do not believe that money can be earned online, you do not need to go to full-time work and sit in the office for days. Only hard physical work will bring you money, at least they think so. This is the difference between the views of the old and new generations. I do not argue that the older generation can teach you a lot, but not in the case of making money online. In this case, it is better to think in your own way, not to listen to other people's advice and also not to follow them.
Yes i agree that money from gambling is dirty but for me in my opinion it depends. wherein if it's illegal on our country then we can call it a dirty money. But if it's not ,probably it will be a clean money that we earned from it. Because i believe not all money on gambling are dirty and it always depends if it's prohibited and illegal in our country.
For me, it doesn't matter when it's coming as long as I earn money from gambling, which until now I don't have the success in doing it yet. Earning money in gambling is hard because most of us are losers, that's why some are just discouraging us that gambling is a dirty money so we will not play anymore.
The operators in gambling will always be a winner in the end and they are into a profitable industry, so if you will ask them if they are earning dirty money, they won't mind it because it's still the same money with the same value, as long as we are safe in what we are doing, lets just enjoy the money we earn, whether it's coming from gambling or other unusual method of earning money.
Yes i agree that money from gambling is dirty but for me in my opinion it depends. wherein if it's illegal on our country then we can call it a dirty money. But if it's not ,probably it will be a clean money that we earned from it. Because i believe not all money on gambling are dirty and it always depends if it's prohibited and illegal in our country.
Yes, I agree with what you have said because it depends on the country if they prohibited gambling. Different states have different laws and jurisdiction so if gambling is legal to your country and the site or casino is has a permit to operate it's legitimate legal but if not its definitely illegal and vice versa.
Yes i agree that money from gambling is dirty but for me in my opinion it depends. wherein if it's illegal on our country then we can call it a dirty money. But if it's not ,probably it will be a clean money that we earned from it. Because i believe not all money on gambling are dirty and it always depends if it's prohibited and illegal in our country.
People treating gambling money as dirty has a high ethical and religious value and we should not blame them for not being practical, it's about values and being practical, you have to choose between the two, and since I'm not a very religious person, I prefer being practical.
Maybe it's because some people are using gambling to make money. Not because they don't know that gambling was prohibited in their religion, but maybe they use gambling as a way to get fun. Maybe someday, they will realize, and they will leave gambling forever.
Maybe we can treat gambling as it's way and not use gambling as a source income. People will still play gambling no matter it's prohibited in their religion, but there will always some people who can accept that gambling is a way of having fun and get entertain.
I've made this thread to gather your thoughts on these views which I experienced first hand within my richly multicultural and highly sectarian country. I've enjoyed reading all your reactions and ideas.
I have to point out though that [1.] I do not necessarily share this view; [2.] I am not a Muslim; [3.] I am a gambler, although small time and for fun. I gamble on both physical sports and esports. I play dice. I used to play roulette. I played a lot of card games including poker. I gamble on heads or tails when the teacher is out. I bet on the next right answer on a quiz. I bet on spider and cockfighting. I gamble in wakes. I bet on the digits printed on our fiat bills. I bet on lottery combinations. The list goes on; [4.] Money to me is neither clean nor dirty. Neither is it good nor evil. Although perhaps originally designed to be of proper use and for human convenience in trade, at most, it is a neutral tool that could possibly help or hinder, cure or hurt, or even give or take a life. [5.] Ideas, beliefs, cultures, traditions, etc. are constantly evolving. So is gambling, and perhaps how it is viewed by a society.
I have to point out though that [1.] I do not necessarily share this view; [2.] I am not a Muslim; [3.] I am a gambler, although small time and for fun. I gamble on both physical sports and esports. I play dice. I used to play roulette. I played a lot of card games including poker. I gamble on heads or tails when the teacher is out. I bet on the next right answer on a quiz. I bet on spider and cockfighting. I gamble in wakes. I bet on the digits printed on our fiat bills. I bet on lottery combinations. The list goes on; [4.] Money to me is neither clean nor dirty. Neither is it good nor evil. Although perhaps originally designed to be of proper use and for human convenience in trade, at most, it is a neutral tool that could possibly help or hinder, cure or hurt, or even give or take a life. [5.] Ideas, beliefs, cultures, traditions, etc. are constantly evolving. So is gambling, and perhaps how it is viewed by a society.
People treating gambling money as dirty has a high ethical and religious value and we should not blame them for not being practical, it's about values and being practical, you have to choose between the two, and since I'm not a very religious person, I prefer being practical.
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong
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Before anything else, It seems that you came from a family with good family orientation so I wonder what would be their reaction if they find out you're roaming around here in the gambling discussion? They most probably get mad at you, be careful 
. Going back to the topic. No doubt that gambling is morally bad but as time goes by it was slowly accepted by our society. Some people prefer to not call it gambling but sort of a form of entertainment
. For me money coming from such thing is not a dirty money at all because you can also earn it through hardwork, luck and strategy which is not totally different from the typical kind of labor. Maybe we can say that you're already crossing the borderline if you are playing games that are not government- run or at least legally approved in your country (e.g jueteng, video karera etc.) Yes, I agree time is changing and government and people should be practical but of course I do not disagree if the government is run by a religious belief then he should impose it, I agree that gambling has a new name now which is entertainment and big casinos should be for rich people who can afford to throw money.
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Before anything else, It seems that you came from a family with good family orientation so I wonder what would be their reaction if they find out you're roaming around here in the gambling discussion? They most probably get mad at you, be careful . Going back to the topic. No doubt that gambling is morally bad but as time goes by it was slowly accepted by our society. Some people prefer to not call it gambling but sort of a form of entertainment
. For me money coming from such thing is not a dirty money at all because you can also earn it through hardwork, luck and strategy which is not totally different from the typical kind of labor. Maybe we can say that you're already crossing the borderline if you are playing games that are not government- run or at least legally approved in your country (e.g jueteng, video karera etc.) 
Gambling won't be dirty if you've played it fairly without doing any cheating, it can only definitely be dirty once you're taking beyond it's advantages. Most gamblers in the real world of physical money, had a mindset that gamblers who initiate huge wins was seriously taking hidden strategies that eventually losses their opponent.
Isn't about the way you gamble that money, is about the source of the money used for gambling. Some people use casinos as a way of money laundering, because if you have a big bankroll from a scam or from theft, then you can join to a casino a chase big multipliers with low chance to get them, and each time you hit one of those 'Jackpots' then the money gets justified.
That's not dirty anymore since you were able to launder it successfully, that's life, we have different ways to making money, whether illegal or not but it's the government job to get their people and punish. In general, I don't see gambling money a dirty money, like every business or services, there are legal and illegal, so this one, illegal money are dirty money but I don't really care as even the government are corrupt, they also get a lot of dirty money for their personal interest.
Are we still lingering in this idea until now?
Ok, let's say I am a gambler, a huge gambler and I am earning millions and millions of dollars out of it. If people don't know there are tournaments of poker and the winner are getting millions out of it.
I won that and got the million prize pot, I want to help a charity and they are not accepting it since I am a gambler, how would you feel? I am a gambler but I earn that money not because I am putting all of my money in it every day, I won because I am a talented and skilled gambler that won a tournament, that is a sign I am one of the best and that is a prize of mine for that.
Doesn't mean I am gambling, it means that is dirty money. It is in the people how will they treat that money since even if that money comes out of gambling, it is still money and it can still do the same thing as the money earned out of working. It will still feed people, it will still help social workers and it will still build a infrastructure that will help people.
Ok, let's say I am a gambler, a huge gambler and I am earning millions and millions of dollars out of it. If people don't know there are tournaments of poker and the winner are getting millions out of it.
I won that and got the million prize pot, I want to help a charity and they are not accepting it since I am a gambler, how would you feel? I am a gambler but I earn that money not because I am putting all of my money in it every day, I won because I am a talented and skilled gambler that won a tournament, that is a sign I am one of the best and that is a prize of mine for that.
Doesn't mean I am gambling, it means that is dirty money. It is in the people how will they treat that money since even if that money comes out of gambling, it is still money and it can still do the same thing as the money earned out of working. It will still feed people, it will still help social workers and it will still build a infrastructure that will help people.
Gambling won't be dirty if you've played it fairly without doing any cheating, it can only definitely be dirty once you're taking beyond it's advantages. Most gamblers in the real world of physical money, had a mindset that gamblers who initiate huge wins was seriously taking hidden strategies that eventually losses their opponent.
Isn't about the way you gamble that money, is about the source of the money used for gambling. Some people use casinos as a way of money laundering, because if you have a big bankroll from a scam or from theft, then you can join to a casino a chase big multipliers with low chance to get them, and each time you hit one of those 'Jackpots' then the money gets justified.
Gambling is already accepted nowadays, they even expand in the internet which is becoming a billion dollar business.
If people in general sees gambling a bad activity or a dirty money, the gambling industry would not grow.
Sure there are people who ruined their lives because of gambling, but that cannot be blame on gambling because no one forces us to gamble.
What forces us is only ourselves and we let our life ruined by gambling because of our stupidity and our greediness that we convince ourselves to make an easy money in gambling which is the opposite of the reality.
If people in general sees gambling a bad activity or a dirty money, the gambling industry would not grow.
Sure there are people who ruined their lives because of gambling, but that cannot be blame on gambling because no one forces us to gamble.
What forces us is only ourselves and we let our life ruined by gambling because of our stupidity and our greediness that we convince ourselves to make an easy money in gambling which is the opposite of the reality.
Of you include the church of course money from the gambling saying is a dirty because churches teach or preach gambling is sin according from the bible and that is true, but for me depends on how people treat gambling theirs lives if they gambling as for just having I can't seen have an sin playing in gambling specially today a new era of people. So difficult and hard yo discuss between churh and bussiness.
Gambling won't be dirty if you've played it fairly without doing any cheating, it can only definitely be dirty once you're taking beyond it's advantages. Most gamblers in the real world of physical money, had a mindset that gamblers who initiate huge wins was seriously taking hidden strategies that eventually losses their opponent.
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Gambling money is dirty because its all from people who only wants to have a instant money.Gamblers are greedy to win in every game. But there are lots in crypto who are rich people to multiply more their wealth because in crypto you can easily get big money depends on the value of the market.
It all be different from my sees, not actually it become dirty if you never indulge in illegalities happen in gambling. You have earned it hard and play it fairly.
Even though I'm not religious, gambling money is actually not equal to money you have worked hard to earn. You can win $100 easily. But takes a lot of hard work to earn $100. When you work hard to earn that money, you will protect it with love and will use it wisely. However, free money means you will be careless and hence, money earnt from gambling does no good to you as you end up busting it or using it for meaningless purpose. Remember, when you are winning, you are taking someone else's money. It can be the casino owners or of players who are losing. And how can you be happy with a money that results in the loss of money to someone else ? 
No one does become a saint when it comes to money where everyone wont really care at all anymore as long they would able to gain it by all means.Im not that kind of harsh person but thats the reality of this world where anyone do cares just to earn no matter what way
or method it is.Gambling money can be considered legal or illegal depending on how did you obtained it but as well know we did risk something
and luckily we won.We cant say not to be happy because you took out others money.How about on asking reversibly? For sure you wont say the same thing.
yes, how about the losses that you incurred from playing? the casino or other people dont care about your losses no matter how much.
i think you are being hypocrite with yourself if you are not happy after your winnings. casino cares about how much they can rip off, they really dont care much about the players' losses.
if they are considering gambling money is dirty money the reason why they cant accept it. i guess because they dont want to be the talk of the town or the subject of gossip. but if people will not know the sources, more then likely they will openly accept that money. money is money, right?
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.
My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]
I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]
What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?
Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/
My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]
I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]
What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?
Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/
Gambling money is dirty because its all from people who only wants to have a instant money.Gamblers are greedy to win in every game. But there are lots in crypto who are rich people to multiply more their wealth because in crypto you can easily get big money depends on the value of the market.
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