Gambling Problem, Is it Possible to be a Thing of the Past?

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Quote from: rodskee on September 07, 2022, 06:52:10 AM

Quote from: Adbitco on September 07, 2022, 06:43:02 AM

Well gambling has been since man existence and it's more of trade by barter even up till date.
But basically it doesn't mean you (we) can't walk away from gambling or foreseeing it as a thing of past, yes definitely it can be a thing of past if you could get a reliable viable work to sustain with the family most especially being too committed with loads and lots of activities in various places can make you not having time to gamble around.

even if there is a load of things to do? then it is perseverance and dedication mate , we knew that gambling is something that most people are committed but we can deny the call if we can control our self lol.

in the end? it is always our desire to control that matters because it is our money and it is our life.

Quote from: Pierre 2 on September 07, 2022, 04:54:35 AM

. But I also think that people should learn how to stop themselves.

Indeed, this is what we must have in mind and heart before telling that you are a gambling free person.

You can decide to quit if you wishes. But being occupied can limits your attention from entirely gambling maybe out of 90 percent of your thinking about how to gamble with other activities occupying your heart you would only pay 40 percent to gamble. As time goes the more you reduces it gradually instead of quiting it at once which may likely affect your thinking and still have passion for it.

Sorry to say this, gambling is like a smoke addicts. Is very hard to quit smoking and it's gradually to stop but at some point you can decide to consume a stick per day instead of consuming about a packet for the whole day so is gambling, you can get distracted with loads of activities and targets around you even if you would gamble it won't be that constantly or regular as usual.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on September 07, 2022, 04:54:35 AM

I think this is good feature happens to be included even in some forums I saw. Online casinos may easily implement this as nice gesture to their costumers indeed. But I also think that people should learn how to stop themselves. Psychological affect behind gambling won't go away with simple self exclusion mechanic. There are thousands of online casinos around the internet where people can easily sign up, deposit money and start playing.

Maybe it can be included or applied in online casinos to limit people from spending too much money but it can also reduce casino income from those who are greedy to chase wins again and again. This is the gambler's responsibility because it is their money and I believe in the beginning, they did not want to lose the money. And because the factor of wanting to recover losses from playing gambling before and wanting to get more wins makes them deposit their money without thinking about the risks.

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Quote from: Adbitco on September 07, 2022, 06:43:02 AM

Well gambling has been since man existence and it's more of trade by barter even up till date.
But basically it doesn't mean you (we) can't walk away from gambling or foreseeing it as a thing of past, yes definitely it can be a thing of past if you could get a reliable viable work to sustain with the family most especially being too committed with loads and lots of activities in various places can make you not having time to gamble around.

even if there is a load of things to do? then it is perseverance and dedication mate , we knew that gambling is something that most people are committed but we can deny the call if we can control our self lol.

in the end? it is always our desire to control that matters because it is our money and it is our life.

Quote from: Pierre 2 on September 07, 2022, 04:54:35 AM

. But I also think that people should learn how to stop themselves.

Indeed, this is what we must have in mind and heart before telling that you are a gambling free person.

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Well gambling has been since man existence and it's more of trade by barter even up till date.
But basically it doesn't mean you (we) can't walk away from gambling or foreseeing it as a thing of past, yes definitely it can be a thing of past if you could get a reliable viable work to sustain with the family most especially being too committed with loads and lots of activities in various places can make you not having time to gamble around.

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I think this is good feature happens to be included even in some forums I saw. Online casinos may easily implement this as nice gesture to their costumers indeed. But I also think that people should learn how to stop themselves. Psychological affect behind gambling won't go away with simple self exclusion mechanic. There are thousands of online casinos around the internet where people can easily sign up, deposit money and start playing.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on September 05, 2022, 10:50:45 PM

It is quite possible that gambling could be a thing of the past,yes because man was not cursed to remain a gambler for life,and the moment one discovers that he is getting addicted to gambling,he can decide to quit it and make it a thing of the past.I know it's very hard to stop a habbit,but the moment it's becoming a problem,it is good to stop it and look for something to keep you busy to avoid gambling again.
The inability to take a decision and stand on it is the reason so many people seems not to be able to leave the habbit of gambling.They are unable to control themselves when the spirit comes,but the moment you can control yourself,you can make it a thing of the past without stress.

It is possible to get out of any addiction not just in gambling but it is very hard. Some addicts are regretting and now want to change but it's almost impossible for them already. This is why some are dying and were not successful on their attempts. I feel sorry for them. We shouldn't wait before we end up on that scary situation but it's important to identify our condition now if we are getting addicted in gambling or not.

There are online test about gambling that we can try. If you think you are positive, then you can try some practice and one of it is like you said diverting our attention on other things which could make us busy and forget gambling.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on September 06, 2022, 03:12:05 AM

Quote from: swogerino on June 15, 2022, 07:57:59 AM

Gambling is as old as human history or really old at least as they say there is 4000 years old or something similar I don't know now.It will be very difficult for us to have gambling as a problem of the past while we see daily increase in the volumes of money gambled in different online and offline casinos,this amount has only seen upside and not downside.I do not know of any remedy for such "illness" as is the gambling addiction.

Self-exclusion does not help as it can be easily avoided and we all know how to do that.What can cure the addiction is only the strong will of the gambler to call it a day and definitely quit gambling,we have seen many good cases of such happenings but we have much more addicted gamblers compared to those that is why is impossible for me that we make gambling a thing of the past.

- I just noticed that since the pandemic began in different parts of the world we live in, although there are many established businesses connected to gambling that have closed, it is an advantage that after more than 1 year of the pandemic, gambling has peeked through online. a marketing strategy made by gambling owners because most people are indoors and just stay in their homes.

The pandemic did not stop people from becoming addicted to gambling, but it seems that the gambling industry grew stronger, and gambling owners made more money.

So you're right, the real change of a gambler depends on how determined a gambling addict is to change, as it were, "If you want there's a way and if you don't there's a reason" it's that simple.

A very simple logic behind, that self-will are the only cure in order to stay away completely even you will undergo to any kind of treatment and you move to any possible far location but if you don't want to really give up your gambling involvement, when there's a chance of you to gamble again it will happen and there's nothing that can stop you. Now that online is almost on every side of the world, gambling can easily be accessed. Without any restriction to yourself, you can go back in that quickest way as you want.

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Quote from: kamvreto on September 06, 2022, 01:37:10 AM

many of those who gamble are just gambling without any understanding. which at first just to spend time as entertainment, but eventually became addicted and ended up costing a lot of money. Gambling in the wrong way will only result in losses, without any purpose why they should keep gambling. This will indeed be a bad habit that should not be continued for long. Self-control in gambling will be obtained when we realize that gambling will have a high risk and will continue to lose when we start to be greedy. there must be rules that must not be violated to stay on the original goal of gambling. it is a responsibility to ourselves to build awareness of the importance of having control over what we do.

Overall what you said I agree. lack of understanding is one of the determining factors that cause people not to realize that the effects of something excessive can lead to addiction, in this context addiction to gambling. some people who are affected by addiction, at first just to spend time as entertainment, but without realizing it it becomes a habit that leads to addiction.

Others think that gambling can bring in additional income, or we can say betting to get rich. but in fact, only a few people are lucky from the many gamblers.
As you said, the important point is. understanding, awareness, responsibility and self-control, are factors that prevent addiction.

Misconception and self-denying, something that a person or addicted gamblers really failed to assess inside them, they are trying to convince themselves that they are still doing the right thing or they are still getting a good amount of money and it's keeping them to continue playing not realizing that they are already engaging too much.

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Quote from: Wexnident on September 06, 2022, 12:13:29 AM

I mean If they were doing well with gambling as a source of income I honestly wouldn't stop them, but if they do, and rather than just equaling the wins and losses but rather losing in the negative, then I'd just stop. It's plausible and I wouldn't really consider it as an impossibility, but only a small amount would be able to actually do so.

In my humble opinion, it is almost impossible to make gambling as a source of regular income.
There are no gamblers who can guarantee to win every time. On the contrary, we experience more losses than winning. In this situation, how we can expect income from gambling? Gambling is mostly a place to spend money for entertainment, not a proper place to expect income.

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Quote from: kamvreto on September 06, 2022, 01:37:10 AM

many of those who gamble are just gambling without any understanding. which at first just to spend time as entertainment, but eventually became addicted and ended up costing a lot of money. Gambling in the wrong way will only result in losses, without any purpose why they should keep gambling. This will indeed be a bad habit that should not be continued for long. Self-control in gambling will be obtained when we realize that gambling will have a high risk and will continue to lose when we start to be greedy. there must be rules that must not be violated to stay on the original goal of gambling. it is a responsibility to ourselves to build awareness of the importance of having control over what we do.

Overall what you said I agree. lack of understanding is one of the determining factors that cause people not to realize that the effects of something excessive can lead to addiction, in this context addiction to gambling. some people who are affected by addiction, at first just to spend time as entertainment, but without realizing it it becomes a habit that leads to addiction.

Others think that gambling can bring in additional income, or we can say betting to get rich. but in fact, only a few people are lucky from the many gamblers.
As you said, the important point is. understanding, awareness, responsibility and self-control, are factors that prevent addiction.

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Quote from: swogerino on June 15, 2022, 07:57:59 AM

Gambling is as old as human history or really old at least as they say there is 4000 years old or something similar I don't know now.It will be very difficult for us to have gambling as a problem of the past while we see daily increase in the volumes of money gambled in different online and offline casinos,this amount has only seen upside and not downside.I do not know of any remedy for such "illness" as is the gambling addiction.

Self-exclusion does not help as it can be easily avoided and we all know how to do that.What can cure the addiction is only the strong will of the gambler to call it a day and definitely quit gambling,we have seen many good cases of such happenings but we have much more addicted gamblers compared to those that is why is impossible for me that we make gambling a thing of the past.

- I just noticed that since the pandemic began in different parts of the world we live in, although there are many established businesses connected to gambling that have closed, it is an advantage that after more than 1 year of the pandemic, gambling has peeked through online. a marketing strategy made by gambling owners because most people are indoors and just stay in their homes.

The pandemic did not stop people from becoming addicted to gambling, but it seems that the gambling industry grew stronger, and gambling owners made more money.

So you're right, the real change of a gambler depends on how determined a gambling addict is to change, as it were, "If you want there's a way and if you don't there's a reason" it's that simple.

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Quote from: Wexnident on September 06, 2022, 12:13:29 AM

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on September 05, 2022, 07:52:49 PM

Quote from: kamvreto on September 05, 2022, 10:11:56 AM

when they are gamblers who are used to it and earn income from gambling, they will find it difficult to stop.

For regular gamblers, especially those who think their gambling activities have no problems, surely never think to stop. They have no reasons to stop, right? Moreover, the gamblers who often win some money from gambling, it even becomes a profitable thing to do. Only those gamblers who have a problem with self-control or addiction, are recommended to stop.

I mean If they were doing well with gambling as a source of income I honestly wouldn't stop them, but if they do, and rather than just equaling the wins and losses but rather losing in the negative, then I'd just stop. It's plausible and I wouldn't really consider it as an impossibility, but only a small amount would be able to actually do so.

If they can win some money from gambling and can quit, it will give them an advantage because not everyone can get it and they can use the money in their life.
And if they can control themselves by not continuing to gamble but withdrawing the winnings, they will not get addicted to gambling.
That will be a positive side for them because we know that it is very rare for people to get a win from gambling.
But we all know that few people can do it while others just continue to use their money to play gambling without having the opportunity to win a lot of money.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on September 05, 2022, 07:52:49 PM

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Quote from: kamvreto on September 05, 2022, 10:11:56 AM

Gambling is not a healthy activity, but there must be control for those gamblers who are already professionals.

It becomes a healthy activity or bad activity, depending on our way in gambling. As long as we gamble in the right way, nothing wrong with gambling. It can give us entertainment, it leads us to happiness. But if we gamble in the wrong way, it can lead to bad habits. By the way, to have good self-control in gambling, it isn't a must to be a professional. It is about our understanding, awareness, responsibility, and how mature our mindsets in gambling.

many of those who gamble are just gambling without any understanding. which at first just to spend time as entertainment, but eventually became addicted and ended up costing a lot of money. Gambling in the wrong way will only result in losses, without any purpose why they should keep gambling. This will indeed be a bad habit that should not be continued for long. Self-control in gambling will be obtained when we realize that gambling will have a high risk and will continue to lose when we start to be greedy. there must be rules that must not be violated to stay on the original goal of gambling. it is a responsibility to ourselves to build awareness of the importance of having control over what we do.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on September 05, 2022, 07:52:49 PM

Quote from: kamvreto on September 05, 2022, 10:11:56 AM

when they are gamblers who are used to it and earn income from gambling, they will find it difficult to stop.

For regular gamblers, especially those who think their gambling activities have no problems, surely never think to stop. They have no reasons to stop, right? Moreover, the gamblers who often win some money from gambling, it even becomes a profitable thing to do. Only those gamblers who have a problem with self-control or addiction, are recommended to stop.

I mean If they were doing well with gambling as a source of income I honestly wouldn't stop them, but if they do, and rather than just equaling the wins and losses but rather losing in the negative, then I'd just stop. It's plausible and I wouldn't really consider it as an impossibility, but only a small amount would be able to actually do so.

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on September 05, 2022, 07:52:49 PM

It becomes a healthy activity or bad activity, depending on our way in gambling. As long as we gamble in the right way, nothing wrong with gambling. It can give us entertainment, it leads us to happiness. But if we gamble in the wrong way, it can lead to bad habits. By the way, to have good self-control in gambling, it isn't a must to be a professional. It is about our understanding, awareness, responsibility, and how mature our mindsets in gambling.

Just make sure it doesn't negatively affect you, both financially and mentally. Pretty short, but that's basically it imo.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on September 05, 2022, 07:52:49 PM

Quote from: kamvreto on September 05, 2022, 10:11:56 AM

when they are gamblers who are used to it and earn income from gambling, they will find it difficult to stop.

For regular gamblers, especially those who think their gambling activities have no problems, surely never think to stop. They have no reasons to stop, right? Moreover, the gamblers who often win some money from gambling, it even becomes a profitable thing to do. Only those gamblers who have a problem with self-control or addiction, are recommended to stop.

Quote from: kamvreto on September 05, 2022, 10:11:56 AM

Gambling is not a healthy activity, but there must be control for those gamblers who are already professionals.

It becomes a healthy activity or bad activity, depending on our way in gambling. As long as we gamble in the right way, nothing wrong with gambling. It can give us entertainment, it leads us to happiness. But if we gamble in the wrong way, it can lead to bad habits. By the way, to have good self-control in gambling, it isn't a must to be a professional. It is about our understanding, awareness, responsibility, and how mature our mindsets in gambling.

Gamblers who already win already in playing gambling have a higher chance to play more because they experience already getting a large amount of winning and of course, with their engagement they think they can earn more at the same time but of course not all the time it is a good profit day. Even though gambling can give the satisfaction of entertainment it is good if we have a proper plan or execution to make sure it is going to be alright at the end of the game people becomes more greedy whenever they lose or win the game always gambling responsibly.

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It is quite possible that gambling could be a thing of the past,yes because man was not cursed to remain a gambler for life,and the moment one discovers that he is getting addicted to gambling,he can decide to quit it and make it a thing of the past.I know it's very hard to stop a habbit,but the moment it's becoming a problem,it is good to stop it and look for something to keep you busy to avoid gambling again.
The inability to take a decision and stand on it is the reason so many people seems not to be able to leave the habbit of gambling.They are unable to control themselves when the spirit comes,but the moment you can control yourself,you can make it a thing of the past without stress.

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Quote from: kamvreto on September 05, 2022, 10:11:56 AM

when they are gamblers who are used to it and earn income from gambling, they will find it difficult to stop.

For regular gamblers, especially those who think their gambling activities have no problems, surely never think to stop. They have no reasons to stop, right? Moreover, the gamblers who often win some money from gambling, it even becomes a profitable thing to do. Only those gamblers who have a problem with self-control or addiction, are recommended to stop.

Quote from: kamvreto on September 05, 2022, 10:11:56 AM

Gambling is not a healthy activity, but there must be control for those gamblers who are already professionals.

It becomes a healthy activity or bad activity, depending on our way in gambling. As long as we gamble in the right way, nothing wrong with gambling. It can give us entertainment, it leads us to happiness. But if we gamble in the wrong way, it can lead to bad habits. By the way, to have good self-control in gambling, it isn't a must to be a professional. It is about our understanding, awareness, responsibility, and how mature our mindsets in gambling.

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Quote from: Mauser on September 05, 2022, 02:59:33 AM

I am not sure if self-exclusion is really going to work long term. My own experiences with gambling addiction is very limited, I had nights in the past where it was hard to stop but these are very rare and don't continue for several days. What I do know from my own experience is how hard it is to stop smoking. During a day when you feel good it's no problem to control your own actions and stay away from cigarettes. Everything changes when you start drinking some alcohol and are among people who smoke. I think that this is very similar to a gambling addiction, when you are with friends who are talking about gambling or who want to gamble in front of you. Self-exclusion can help in some instances if there is no work around, where people can cheat themselves. The problem is that casinos are so easy to access and even if you try to take yourself out of the equation and press the panic button from your regular casino, so that you can't log in in the next 30 days. You could just make a new account at a different casino.

I confess I was not aware of this, thank you so much for sharing your experience with us.

I also believe if a person does not have a certain control, there is a high chance that they will become addicted or something, for example gambling, drinking, medication, drugs, and other things.

When a person becomes addicted to something, he is dependent on this type of "stimulus" to be able to live among other things.

You would really be falling out into addiction if you do engage on particular things on excessive manner which would really be molding out that kind of intent which you would be continously be doing it since you've

been tolerating and ignoring that particular risk that lies ahead.Its impossible for a certain person not to have foresee on the possible consequences if they do intend to do things excessively.

Well, regret do always come at the end and you would realize it once its been happening but it should really be done earlier and wont be necessary to make yourself
experience those unfortunate things.

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This is pretty interesting. I would imagine that it could possibly help some people, those who know they’ve got a problem and want to fix it, as well as those who just simply want to stick to a limit for the day (especially if they plan on drinking and gambling recklessly).

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Quote from: gagux123 on September 05, 2022, 05:48:52 PM

I confess I was not aware of this, thank you so much for sharing your experience with us.

I also believe if a person does not have a certain control, there is a high chance that they will become addicted or something, for example gambling, drinking, medication, drugs, and other things.

When a person becomes addicted to something, he is dependent on this type of "stimulus" to be able to live among other things.

I agree that is why it will be hard for a gambling addict to stick to being self-excluded in gambling. Just like what the earlier reply stated, some gambling addicts will decide to self-exclude but later will try everything to bypass that self-exclusion to the point of moving to another gambling site just to continue their gambling. This self-exclusion may help those players that is yet to be addicted but due to the easy access of gambling casino online, players tends to go back to playing not on the casino he applied for self-exclusion but to new gambling site, they found. I think for this self-exclusion to be taken seriously, they need to be implemented globally, meaning, if a player excludes himself in one casino, he is automatically excluded to all online casino. but I think that would be impossible to implement.

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Quote from: Mauser on September 05, 2022, 02:59:33 AM

I am not sure if self-exclusion is really going to work long term. My own experiences with gambling addiction is very limited, I had nights in the past where it was hard to stop but these are very rare and don't continue for several days. What I do know from my own experience is how hard it is to stop smoking. During a day when you feel good it's no problem to control your own actions and stay away from cigarettes. Everything changes when you start drinking some alcohol and are among people who smoke. I think that this is very similar to a gambling addiction, when you are with friends who are talking about gambling or who want to gamble in front of you. Self-exclusion can help in some instances if there is no work around, where people can cheat themselves. The problem is that casinos are so easy to access and even if you try to take yourself out of the equation and press the panic button from your regular casino, so that you can't log in in the next 30 days. You could just make a new account at a different casino.

I confess I was not aware of this, thank you so much for sharing your experience with us.

I also believe if a person does not have a certain control, there is a high chance that they will become addicted or something, for example gambling, drinking, medication, drugs, and other things.

When a person becomes addicted to something, he is dependent on this type of "stimulus" to be able to live among other things.

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