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Topic: Gambling Problem, Is it Possible to be a Thing of the Past? - page 6. (Read 1854 times)

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The only solution for gambling addicts is to seek medical treatment, the rest of the measures are just things that will not work if the person does not seek medical treatment. I read posts from people on this forum blaming the casino for sending him an email when he was addicted and had deleted his account, I even understood and gave the person reason, but the casino is also not to blame for the person to have played again. That's why I think the only solution is for the person to see a doctor and get treated
I think medical treatment alone is not enough, they should also get rehabilitation treatment so that they can make their brains stop gambling again. The process to get rid of this addiction will not be easy, they doctors and nurses require a very long process so that the addict will forget all how to do gambling and make him think or reflect that he has lost everything because of gambling addiction.
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Gambling problems have been around as long as mankind has been alive. now everything is going digital, but let's not forget that people used to bet on large scale and that even entire household effects and women were used to win. Sometimes with all that entails. We have to accept that gambling problems are part of society and that it is something that will always exist and people have to learn to deal with that if it hasn't already happened.
This problem will stay around and most probably will be left unsolved. People have to understand how gambling works and maybe this can lessen the problem. Educating people before they gamble can also a big help, I wonder if the site implements this before allowing players to gamble on their casino or site, this could change the whole system, education can be a big changer here.

education before gambling sounds very good and will provide more education so they can use their money wisely. Gambling becomes an entertainment and also a place to get some benefits for those who understand gambling, but for those who don't understand they just spend their money every time they gamble. Some gambling sites warn when logging in to their websites that gambling is risky and is for adults only.
It all depends on a person on how would they control themselves when certain emotions kicked in. I think gambling will be very effective if a person know how to control his emotion no matter what the outcome of the game. I mean, come on even if you knew what was going to happen when you gamble but you don't know how to stop even if you are winning, then what's the purpose of your knowledge? For winning purposes only? What if you had a lose streaks? Does knowledge stop that?
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The only solution for gambling addicts is to seek medical treatment, the rest of the measures are just things that will not work if the person does not seek medical treatment. I read posts from people on this forum blaming the casino for sending him an email when he was addicted and had deleted his account, I even understood and gave the person reason, but the casino is also not to blame for the person to have played again. That's why I think the only solution is for the person to see a doctor and get treated
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I am doing my daily reading of online news and articles when I stumbled on this one.  It has an article title of Casino Guru’s Šimon Vincze on How Problem Gambling Can Become a Thing of the Past So I read and wanted it to share in this forum for some healthy discussion.



I don't think this system will solve or even minimize gambling addiction, its a system that is governed by choice that can be ignored by gamblers this so-called self-exclusion is already been implemented and recommended by some casino operators but unfortunately, it's being exploited, he may be a gambling guru but he is not going to be a messiah when it comes to gambling cure with his self exclusion system, education is still a better way to reduce gambling addiction.
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All in all, self-exclusion is about the player's initiative to undergo the process.  As stated by the several replies, there should be a personal admission that he is having a gambling problem but before that, the player must identify that he is having a gambling problem.  
It isn't easy for a player to identify that he has a gambling problem, so the initial steps are already a problem.  This can be solved by attending seminars and reading online guidelines or talking to medical experts on gambling addiction.  Another hassle step for the player.  So the question here is if the player does not recognize that he is already having signs of gambling addiction, the self-exclusion tool is basically useless.

I agree, the self-exclusion tool is more of an imitation of a solution to a problem than a real solution to a problem. If a person is aware of the problem and wants to solve it, then he does not need such a tool, if he is not aware of the problem or does not want to solve it, then this tool is useless. I would like to hear the opinion of those who this tool really helped - do they exist?

self-exclusion will only work if the user himself is determined to change his lifestyle. because if he can easily be tempted by email promos, and go back to where he was, then, this self-exclusion won't really work. your will power will be tested every time, as you will encounter a lot of temptations. the gambling problem won't go away if you will not start from yourself. you have no one to blame but your own on this journey.
Self exclusion will completely keep the user away from gambling. But, as said if he gets triggered of the e-mail and other forms of promotion once again the person will start enjoying. As said to stop the gambling problem first the user himself need to have self realisation and keep himself within limits. When you self exclude users won't receive the bonuses, and for that purpose many won't stay excluded.
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Gambling problems have been around as long as mankind has been alive. now everything is going digital, but let's not forget that people used to bet on large scale and that even entire household effects and women were used to win. Sometimes with all that entails. We have to accept that gambling problems are part of society and that it is something that will always exist and people have to learn to deal with that if it hasn't already happened.
This problem will stay around and most probably will be left unsolved. People have to understand how gambling works and maybe this can lessen the problem. Educating people before they gamble can also a big help, I wonder if the site implements this before allowing players to gamble on their casino or site, this could change the whole system, education can be a big changer here.

education before gambling sounds very good and will provide more education so they can use their money wisely. Gambling becomes an entertainment and also a place to get some benefits for those who understand gambling, but for those who don't understand they just spend their money every time they gamble. Some gambling sites warn when logging in to their websites that gambling is risky and is for adults only.
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All in all, self-exclusion is about the player's initiative to undergo the process.  As stated by the several replies, there should be a personal admission that he is having a gambling problem but before that, the player must identify that he is having a gambling problem.  
It isn't easy for a player to identify that he has a gambling problem, so the initial steps are already a problem.  This can be solved by attending seminars and reading online guidelines or talking to medical experts on gambling addiction.  Another hassle step for the player.  So the question here is if the player does not recognize that he is already having signs of gambling addiction, the self-exclusion tool is basically useless.

I agree, the self-exclusion tool is more of an imitation of a solution to a problem than a real solution to a problem. If a person is aware of the problem and wants to solve it, then he does not need such a tool, if he is not aware of the problem or does not want to solve it, then this tool is useless. I would like to hear the opinion of those who this tool really helped - do they exist?

self-exclusion will only work if the user himself is determined to change his lifestyle. because if he can easily be tempted by email promos, and go back to where he was, then, this self-exclusion won't really work. your will power will be tested every time, as you will encounter a lot of temptations. the gambling problem won't go away if you will not start from yourself. you have no one to blame but your own on this journey.
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Gambling problems have been around as long as mankind has been alive. now everything is going digital, but let's not forget that people used to bet on large scale and that even entire household effects and women were used to win. Sometimes with all that entails. We have to accept that gambling problems are part of society and that it is something that will always exist and people have to learn to deal with that if it hasn't already happened.
This problem will stay around and most probably will be left unsolved. People have to understand how gambling works and maybe this can lessen the problem. Educating people before they gamble can also a big help, I wonder if the site implements this before allowing players to gamble on their casino or site, this could change the whole system, education can be a big changer here.
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Gambling problems have been around as long as mankind has been alive. now everything is going digital, but let's not forget that people used to bet on large scale and that even entire household effects and women were used to win. Sometimes with all that entails. We have to accept that gambling problems are part of society and that it is something that will always exist and people have to learn to deal with that if it hasn't already happened.

Gambling problems are since the time began and will be forever this wont stop no matter what happens even if law prevents it people will always find the way to gamble in life no matter if its money or some other material stuff. The only thing that is important is to play for fun
^It is start on us, we should know how to decipline ourselves towards in gambling and that is right, gambling problem was always there and it will not end not unless people will learn how to decipline themselves on gambling. It has been there since gambling was discovered, it is only us who can stop those problem from the past.
There’s a lot of responsible gambling program and yet many are still falling into a trap of gambling so I also believe that we should be more responsible and it will always start from our initiative either to stop gambling or to have a plan. Self exclusion is also a good way to start controlling yourself, but make sure that you will not gamble again with the another site because if you still see yourself gambling, then self exclusion is useless at all.
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This is a great move only if it will have a good effect on the gambling world.
It is actually a good move but results vary depending on the person that will use it. We just can't predict what shall happen exactly if somebody does this.

There had been making gambling problems gambler had be facing for long now and I think there should be a way out to it. It is more easier when a gambler could recognize his or her weakness than those ones can are not conscious of what thier weakness could be. The gambling problem looking at it from addiction, poor control of fund, urge to gamble more etc need to be addressed to reduce the later effect on gamblers.
And that's what they have to recognize and admit that they have the problem at all costs. But when it's about to admit it, those that have this actual problem don't look at it the way it is because they think that it's an easy situation that they can handle. Just as you've said, if a gambler recognizes himself to have an addiction and any other gambling-related problem, he's free to use self-exclusion.
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Gambling problems have been around as long as mankind has been alive. now everything is going digital, but let's not forget that people used to bet on large scale and that even entire household effects and women were used to win. Sometimes with all that entails. We have to accept that gambling problems are part of society and that it is something that will always exist and people have to learn to deal with that if it hasn't already happened.

Gambling problems are since the time began and will be forever this wont stop no matter what happens even if law prevents it people will always find the way to gamble in life no matter if its money or some other material stuff. The only thing that is important is to play for fun
^It is start on us, we should know how to decipline ourselves towards in gambling and that is right, gambling problem was always there and it will not end not unless people will learn how to decipline themselves on gambling. It has been there since gambling was discovered, it is only us who can stop those problem from the past.
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All in all, self-exclusion is about the player's initiative to undergo the process.  As stated by the several replies, there should be a personal admission that he is having a gambling problem but before that, the player must identify that he is having a gambling problem. 
It isn't easy for a player to identify that he has a gambling problem, so the initial steps are already a problem.  This can be solved by attending seminars and reading online guidelines or talking to medical experts on gambling addiction.  Another hassle step for the player.  So the question here is if the player does not recognize that he is already having signs of gambling addiction, the self-exclusion tool is basically useless.

I agree, the self-exclusion tool is more of an imitation of a solution to a problem than a real solution to a problem. If a person is aware of the problem and wants to solve it, then he does not need such a tool, if he is not aware of the problem or does not want to solve it, then this tool is useless. I would like to hear the opinion of those who this tool really helped - do they exist?
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Gambling problems have been around as long as mankind has been alive. now everything is going digital, but let's not forget that people used to bet on large scale and that even entire household effects and women were used to win. Sometimes with all that entails. We have to accept that gambling problems are part of society and that it is something that will always exist and people have to learn to deal with that if it hasn't already happened.

Gambling problems are since the time began and will be forever this wont stop no matter what happens even if law prevents it people will always find the way to gamble in life no matter if its money or some other material stuff. The only thing that is important is to play for fun
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Gambling problems have been around as long as mankind has been alive. now everything is going digital, but let's not forget that people used to bet on large scale and that even entire household effects and women were used to win. Sometimes with all that entails. We have to accept that gambling problems are part of society and that it is something that will always exist and people have to learn to deal with that if it hasn't already happened.
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The fiat-based casinos may support this cause but I don't think the Cryptocurrency based casinos will, Cryptocurrency casinos are for decentralization and anonymity, they don't want to be restricted if one Cryptocurrency based casino will be implemented these gamblers can opt to transfer to other casinos that don't have this system, gamblers don't want restrictions they want to decide of their own and this self-exclusion should be optional.

There are already some cryptocurrency casinos that supports this self-exclusion program. To name some that I know:
Stake
Roobet
Duelbits
Sportsbet
livecasino

I believe there are a lot more crypto casinos that are not included on the list above and I don't think that fiat casinos and crypto casinos have so much in difference.
There are in fact many casinos which offer a way to self-exclude yourself from their website, but we know that you can open another account in yet another casino and keep gambling that way, however it seems some people want to create a global system in which a casino player can not only self-exclude from the casinos in which they are playing but in any other which belongs to the program, and while interesting those which are addicted will do everything they can to keep gambling so something like this will probably be ineffective.
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When I saw the title of the thread, I thought it was a joke. Reading it, I see that it makes some sense but it won't completely solve the problem. Self-exclusion features have been around for a long time and implementing them globally I think would go a long way to reducing the problem, but there will always be those who, even if they self-exclude and can't play in legal casinos, will end up going to illegal games and losing everything.

The sad thing is that ideally, people should have enough self-control not to have to exclude themselves.

In my opinion, such a tool will not solve the problem of gambling addiction. 

Gambling is caused by internal problems of a person.  For example, a person has a boring and uninteresting life, so he spends all his time and money exclusively on gambling.  If he self-limits himself in gambling, then the problem will not disappear anywhere. 

I think you are right and that the person will externalise the problems in another way. In addiction to alcohol, drugs or sex, for example.
I do not know the country you come from, but mostly or nearly all countries, I even think even presently in all countries, no strict laws to know if a gambler in a gambling platform can be known on other gambling platforms, so the gamblers can resort to just gambling on other sites, or sites that are not well known as long as gambling that are even legit are still accessible. If the gambler can not gamble on other legit gambling platforms, but which I do not think is possible because they are many legit gambling platforms, he can then resort to just go the illegal way but which I do not think will happen as there are many other sites that are legit to go for.

Some people can have an interesting life and become addicted to gambling, so people can become addicted because they do not have job, thinking they can turn little to many through gambling, some people become addicted because they are thinking of gambling like they can be smarted and win more than lose, but they will later realize that and addiction become their problem. There are people that live a boring life and become addicted as there are people that live a lively life and also become addicted. There are people that live a boring life and never even thought of gambling.
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When I saw the title of the thread, I thought it was a joke. Reading it, I see that it makes some sense but it won't completely solve the problem. Self-exclusion features have been around for a long time and implementing them globally I think would go a long way to reducing the problem, but there will always be those who, even if they self-exclude and can't play in legal casinos, will end up going to illegal games and losing everything.

The sad thing is that ideally, people should have enough self-control not to have to exclude themselves.

In my opinion, such a tool will not solve the problem of gambling addiction. 

Gambling is caused by internal problems of a person.  For example, a person has a boring and uninteresting life, so he spends all his time and money exclusively on gambling.  If he self-limits himself in gambling, then the problem will not disappear anywhere. 

I think you are right and that the person will externalise the problems in another way. In addiction to alcohol, drugs or sex, for example.
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In my opinion, such a tool will not solve the problem of gambling addiction. 

Gambling is caused by internal problems of a person.  For example, a person has a boring and uninteresting life, so he spends all his time and money exclusively on gambling.  If he self-limits himself in gambling, then the problem will not disappear anywhere. 

Because his life will still remain boring and uninteresting. 

Players need to be encouraged to live a real life - walk in nature, play sports, go to theaters and concerts, meet girls and have sex with them.

The tool will work for responsible gamblers but for addicted, it will be ignored, why would they use a tool that will deprive them of something that will satisfy their inner needs, even if you keep reminding people of the self-exclusion feature of your casino, it will be ignored by the majority of gamblers, in fact, some gamblers are making an issue out of it, its better to have this feature but it will not the kind of tool that will save many gamblers from getting addicted.
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It isn't easy for a player to identify that he has a gambling problem, so the initial steps are already a problem.  This can be solved by attending seminars and reading online guidelines or talking to medical experts on gambling addiction. 
Attending seminars and reading online guide isn't a correct way to know if you're an addict or not, because self diagnostic can gone wrong. A mental issues always need to seek medical expert since you don't actually know what's your problem. Someone can diagnosis he's a bipolar since his mood can swing very fast from sad to happy, but the fact he's just in his mind and he's literally normal person. Even he already know he's an addict, he will not actually follow the self exclusion feature since he always want to keep gambling.
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All in all, self-exclusion is about the player's initiative to undergo the process.  As stated by the several replies, there should be a personal admission that he is having a gambling problem but before that, the player must identify that he is having a gambling problem. 
It isn't easy for a player to identify that he has a gambling problem, so the initial steps are already a problem.  This can be solved by attending seminars and reading online guidelines or talking to medical experts on gambling addiction.  Another hassle step for the player.  So the question here is if the player does not recognize that he is already having signs of gambling addiction, the self-exclusion tool is basically useless.
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