Topic: Gambling Problem, Is it Possible to be a Thing of the Past? - page 7. (Read 1870 times)
This is a great move only if it will have a good effect on the gambling world. There had been making gambling problems gambler had be facing for long now and I think there should be a way out to it. It is more easier when a gambler could recognize his or her weakness than those ones can are not conscious of what thier weakness could be. The gambling problem looking at it from addiction, poor control of fund, urge to gamble more etc need to be addressed to reduce the later effect on gamblers.
Having this kind of tool in every online casino is really helpful but the main challenge is the people involved. Are they willing to participate in the program? That is the main issue unless Casino will cooperate and force implement this procedure to their players which is highly unlikely. Aside from that this is still in the experimental stage so it is too early to say that this kind of tool will solve the gambling problem that had been in the industry since the beginning. I think it will help but it won't make the gambling problem a thing of the past. So what do you think about this article's claim?
I think this is the right approach but might not work in the long run. The first time I saw the self exclusion program was in a poker App that added a panic button. Clicking it you could log yourself out of the game for 24h, 7d or 30 days. I never used it myself or heard from friends using it, but if you lose big time and are afraid to make a rash decision it could be a good idea to lock yourself out. The problem is that this is only for one casino and even if you locked out for 30 days, you could just go and sign up on a new website. For this to be efficient it would mean that all the casinos work together and you can't gamble anywhere else. Such a database with all the gamblers who are afraid to be addicted would also be a security risk if someone gets access to it. The percentage of people who are struggling with gambling is relatively small compared to the large number of gamblers who only play for fun from time to time. Nonetheless gambling addiction is a serious illness and casinos should do more to protect the gamblers who are struggling with.
In my opinion, such a tool will not solve the problem of gambling addiction.
Gambling is caused by internal problems of a person. For example, a person has a boring and uninteresting life, so he spends all his time and money exclusively on gambling. If he self-limits himself in gambling, then the problem will not disappear anywhere.
Because his life will still remain boring and uninteresting.
Players need to be encouraged to live a real life - walk in nature, play sports, go to theaters and concerts, meet girls and have sex with them.
Gambling is caused by internal problems of a person. For example, a person has a boring and uninteresting life, so he spends all his time and money exclusively on gambling. If he self-limits himself in gambling, then the problem will not disappear anywhere.
Because his life will still remain boring and uninteresting.
Players need to be encouraged to live a real life - walk in nature, play sports, go to theaters and concerts, meet girls and have sex with them.
This self-exclusion has become an issue in many casinos, they are charged with being late implementing this feature, and some gamblers who have no control of their activity are making a big issue of this feature, self-exclusion should be on one's self not putting the pressure on casinos then blame them if they are not served immediately that is why some casinos are not adopting it because some gamblers are exploiting and use it to accuse the casinos.
Yeah, I've seen it lately that there were gamblers that have problem with it and honestly, it's a helpful feature for those that are truly addicted now.And in the first place, they shouldn't gamble if they're experiencing extreme addiction. Well, if you really are in a tough situation and you don't want to do and you can't think well, you'll just have to look for someone to blame for.
The self exclusion thing is going to help someone a little, but I doubt it is going to do much. As long as they self exclude themselves with their balance locked, it would be helpful. But other than that, it makes no sense. They could self exclude themselves. Two days latter, they will want to play again, they will take their funds somewhere else. Or maybe create another account in the casino and start playing. Who is stopping them from doing those things?
Yeah, I have read some casinos they're have week self excluded system. I don't know the reason behind this, but if the user didn't using VPN to create another account, then it's seems the casino were allow him to play again, though I don't know the specific rules how long the self exclude will last. Not to mention they can play in another casino lol, it's really easy.The one who stopping from those thing is the gambler itself with the help of professional.
This self-exclusion has become an issue in many casinos, they are charged with being late implementing this feature, and some gamblers who have no control of their activity are making a big issue of this feature, self-exclusion should be on one's self not putting the pressure on casinos then blame them if they are not served immediately that is why some casinos are not adopting it because some gamblers are exploiting and use it to accuse the casinos.
The self exclusion thing is going to help someone a little, but I doubt it is going to do much. As long as they self exclude themselves with their balance locked, it would be helpful. But other than that, it makes no sense. They could self exclude themselves. Two days latter, they will want to play again, they will take their funds somewhere else. Or maybe create another account in the casino and start playing. Who is stopping them from doing those things?
Yeah, I have read some casinos they're have week self excluded system. I don't know the reason behind this, but if the user didn't using VPN to create another account, then it's seems the casino were allow him to play again, though I don't know the specific rules how long the self exclude will last. Not to mention they can play in another casino lol, it's really easy.The one who stopping from those thing is the gambler itself with the help of professional.
The self exclusion thing is going to help someone a little, but I doubt it is going to do much. As long as they self exclude themselves with their balance locked, it would be helpful. But other than that, it makes no sense. They could self exclude themselves. Two days latter, they will want to play again, they will take their funds somewhere else. Or maybe create another account in the casino and start playing. Who is stopping them from doing those things?
Yeah, I have read some casinos they're have week self excluded system. I don't know the reason behind this, but if the user didn't using VPN to create another account, then it's seems the casino were allow him to play again, though I don't know the specific rules how long the self exclude will last. Not to mention they can play in another casino lol, it's really easy.The one who stopping from those thing is the gambler itself with the help of professional.
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Self-exclusion feature? That's just a formality to make a good reputation for the casino.It just like telling an addicted gambler to "stop gambilng" and fell to deaf ear.If they are serious,they can just banned the gambler account for like 1-2 weeks and said it's for the prevention of addiction.
But it could be a new program implemented in the casino. But as for the application, I don't think it will be easy because as you said, it will not make addicted gamblers stop as easy as they would like. But the question is how the casino will know if a gambler is addicted because if you look at the time spent, many other gamblers also spend a lot of time playing gambling. Maybe we're better off waiting for the latest updates from those who've tried using it so we can know what's going on.Like for example if you are addicted, many psychologists suggest changing your routine, saying things like "go for a walk" is not good because you are walking, it is good because you are doing something that you normally do not do, the walking part is just an example there, plus it is healthy so you know, win-win. Same here, if you gamble at one place the same way for years, and then can't, even if you switch up somewhere else, it would make it harder for you, hence maybe give you a small tiny chance of quitting all together.
The self exclusion thing is going to help someone a little, but I doubt it is going to do much. As long as they self exclude themselves with their balance locked, it would be helpful. But other than that, it makes no sense. They could self exclude themselves. Two days latter, they will want to play again, they will take their funds somewhere else. Or maybe create another account in the casino and start playing. Who is stopping them from doing those things?
Its really hard to stop gambling once you are heavy into it. I think to stop gambling you really need serious help to heal that and stop gambling.
Self exclusion dosent mean anything you can always move onto the next sportsbook and bet there as well or casino
Usually when you are addicted to gambling, you will prefer to keep playing in all kinds of ways until you finally reach the point where you don't have anything to sell and earn money, the final possibility is to commit a crime and earn money, betting on sports betting is safer in my opinion. instead of doing it at the casino because with sports gambling you can predict the movements of the players and opponents who competed in the previous match so you have to analyze their track record first. Self exclusion dosent mean anything you can always move onto the next sportsbook and bet there as well or casino
I don't think a global self-exclusion would come to reality since businesses are really after their self-interest. That sounds negative but that's the harsh reality. I can already imagine the trust issue among casino operators hehe.
I also find this strategy laughable. This is like trying to stop smokers and drunkards while you continue to show them cigarettes and alcohols.
There are already some cryptocurrency casinos that supports this self-exclusion program. To name some that I know:
Stake
Roobet
Duelbits
Sportsbet
livecasino
I believe there are a lot more crypto casinos that are not included on the list above and I don't think that fiat casinos and crypto casinos have so much in difference.
Adding Rollbit to the list.
I also find this strategy laughable. This is like trying to stop smokers and drunkards while you continue to show them cigarettes and alcohols.
The fiat-based casinos may support this cause but I don't think the Cryptocurrency based casinos will, Cryptocurrency casinos are for decentralization and anonymity, they don't want to be restricted if one Cryptocurrency based casino will be implemented these gamblers can opt to transfer to other casinos that don't have this system, gamblers don't want restrictions they want to decide of their own and this self-exclusion should be optional.
There are already some cryptocurrency casinos that supports this self-exclusion program. To name some that I know:
Stake
Roobet
Duelbits
Sportsbet
livecasino
I believe there are a lot more crypto casinos that are not included on the list above and I don't think that fiat casinos and crypto casinos have so much in difference.
It is not really possible to forget about a heavy loss that one had,especially when it really involves a huge sum of money,there is no way one can forget what happened that day,Atleast even if he forgets every thing,he won't forget the amount of money he lose in a few seconds. Gambling is really something very bad,and if heavy loss does not come,it is very hard for one to change from gambling,something must happen for change to come,so when that change comes,it usually something that will trigger it,and that triggerer won't be forgotten.
The fiat-based casinos may support this cause but I don't think the Cryptocurrency based casinos will, Cryptocurrency casinos are for decentralization and anonymity, they don't want to be restricted if one Cryptocurrency based casino will be implemented these gamblers can opt to transfer to other casinos that don't have this system, gamblers don't want restrictions they want to decide of their own and this self-exclusion should be optional.
There are already some cryptocurrency casinos that supports this self-exclusion program. To name some that I know:
Stake
Roobet
Duelbits
Sportsbet
livecasino
I believe there are a lot more crypto casinos that are not included on the list above and I don't think that fiat casinos and crypto casinos have so much in difference.
Self exclusion globally sounds like you are puttng yourself in prison. I know it will help but this would mean all the casino will have acess to same database of all casino online gamblers. I couldn't imagine how else this could this be done but this.
One reason why we go to Bitcoin Casino is to avoid KYC, this self exclusion will not apply for these people.
The fiat-based casinos may support this cause but I don't think the Cryptocurrency based casinos will, Cryptocurrency casinos are for decentralization and anonymity, they don't want to be restricted if one Cryptocurrency based casino will be implemented these gamblers can opt to transfer to other casinos that don't have this system, gamblers don't want restrictions they want to decide of their own and this self-exclusion should be optional. One reason why we go to Bitcoin Casino is to avoid KYC, this self exclusion will not apply for these people.
Self-exclusion feature? That's just a formality to make a good reputation for the casino.It just like telling an addicted gambler to "stop gambilng" and fell to deaf ear.If they are serious,they can just banned the gambler account for like 1-2 weeks and said it's for the prevention of addiction.
But it could be a new program implemented in the casino. But as for the application, I don't think it will be easy because as you said, it will not make addicted gamblers stop as easy as they would like. But the question is how the casino will know if a gambler is addicted because if you look at the time spent, many other gamblers also spend a lot of time playing gambling. Maybe we're better off waiting for the latest updates from those who've tried using it so we can know what's going on.Like for example if you are addicted, many psychologists suggest changing your routine, saying things like "go for a walk" is not good because you are walking, it is good because you are doing something that you normally do not do, the walking part is just an example there, plus it is healthy so you know, win-win. Same here, if you gamble at one place the same way for years, and then can't, even if you switch up somewhere else, it would make it harder for you, hence maybe give you a small tiny chance of quitting all together.
Shitty initiative and people who come up with such things have too little intelligence. It's as smart as cutting off your head to fight dandruff. To make some crappy trick for sick people "effective" you want to implement global totalitarianism so that every person and every business (casino) is under control? This is crazy nonsense.
A global mechanism to exclude problem gamblers from casinos would only work with every casinos companies in the world from every kinds and categories working under a central authority/regulator who would have access to the informations of all the people betting in the world. That means the end of non-KYC, anonymous and decentralized casinos, prejudicing most crypto casinos and its enthusiasts.Self exclusion feature is a good thing and casinos must respect and help gamblers in difficult situation to stop playing, but at a global level it's just not feasible. What could exist is a third party service problem gamblers can hire to block the access of their devices to gambling platforms, like that feature from cable television, which allows customers to censor some channels, especially when there are children at home.
Yes, it would be a normal approach when a gambling addicted player solves this problem himself, for example, by isolating himself from the Internet (in whole or in part). But when the problems of individual people begin to be solved at the expense of the deterioration of life for everyone else, I think this is nonsense. I wonder why such things come to people's minds and they seriously discuss them.
Wait what?? Self exclusion doesn't require KYC unless you are accessing your account using unusual IP after the exclusion but simply it's just a temporary freeze of your account so you can't use it. I still don't experience this process but I don't see the need of requiring KYC or relevant procedure by just excluding the user account.
Also what data sharing you are pertaining? I might missing something here?
This will differ from country to country and how strict the government of a country wants to link gamblers and the sites they are using, but this is not effective yet even all over the world, just like the digital ID we learnt about, that can link same gambler on different betting sites in the same country together with just an ID, this can help for betting sites to work together to link same gambler on different gambling site together which can help if he wants to self exclude himself from gambling. But this is not effective and it is still just not just a matter of reality yet. I too do not yet see any KYC necessary about this, just the user betting account will be locked for time being, no matter how the registration is, even if it was just only email is used to register. Also what data sharing you are pertaining? I might missing something here?
Self-exclusion feature? That's just a formality to make a good reputation for the casino.It just like telling an addicted gambler to "stop gambilng" and fell to deaf ear.If they are serious,they can just banned the gambler account for like 1-2 weeks and said it's for the prevention of addiction.
Yes providing the section for self exclusion isn't going to make any meaning because it is just for people to see it but they won't use it. Who will want to exclude himself after all, when it comes to an addict, no way. Banning also can only stop the addict from playing on the site and that is all that can happen. For an addict to see the behavior as the thing of the past, they need help from experts in guidian and counselling.
Self exclusion globally sounds like you are puttng yourself in prison. I know it will help but this would mean all the casino will have acess to same database of all casino online gamblers. I couldn't imagine how else this could this be done but this.
One reason why we go to Bitcoin Casino is to avoid KYC, this self exclusion will not apply for these people.
One reason why we go to Bitcoin Casino is to avoid KYC, this self exclusion will not apply for these people.
Wait what?? Self exclusion doesn't require KYC unless you are accessing your account using unusual IP after the exclusion but simply it's just a temporary freeze of your account so you can't use it. I still don't experience this process but I don't see the need of requiring KYC or relevant procedure by just excluding the user account.
Also what data sharing you are pertaining? I might missing something here?
Its really hard to stop gambling once you are heavy into it. I think to stop gambling you really need serious help to heal that and stop gambling.
Self exclusion dosent mean anything you can always move onto the next sportsbook and bet there as well or casino
Self exclusion dosent mean anything you can always move onto the next sportsbook and bet there as well or casino
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