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Topic: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction? (Read 4143 times)

legendary
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In my opinion, there were still a bunch of streamers and influencers who actually believed in the projects they were advertising and promoting, some even had a stake on those projects and they seemed to be genuinely disillusioned when those projects failed to gain followers or when the value of the native token when down to zero.
Though, I won't deny there were very nefarious streamers who literally used their own NFT game and token in order to scam their own audience, it was quite a wild thing to see unveiling on live.
What the internet learned back in the day about it is one should never just follow the instructions or financial advice from a party which have an interest in the project, basically a shill.

You're right, this served as a lesson for many not to believe much in the new technologies that come with today's developments, nobody likes to lose money , what remains after this after anger and lamentations is an incredible learning, now each thing that comes out from here on out I'm sure it will be very studied by many, and they would only take very low risks in case they could lose, it's difficult because in this world the majority wants to win, to be victorious, that desire to get money and have fun is what leads many to lose money , streamers at that time were the best job you could have , I think Everyone, even the worst, made money just by Promoting.
legendary
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... didn't have much time and would become scams , even so they promoted them.


In my opinion, there were still a bunch of streamers and influencers who actually believed in the projects they were advertising and promoting, some even had a stake on those projects and they seemed to be genuinely disillusioned when those projects failed to gain followers or when the value of the native token when down to zero.
Though, I won't deny there were very nefarious streamers who literally used their own NFT game and token in order to scam their own audience, it was quite a wild thing to see unveiling on live.
What the internet learned back in the day about it is one should never just follow the instructions or financial advice from a party which have an interest in the project, basically a shill.
legendary
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When we gamble on our own without any coercion or interest just because other people are doing it then things might be different but that will not be found with people who just start gambling just because they are interested when other people are doing it (including streamers) and they get benefits quickly and instantly without having to wait long.

This kind of thing is often found especially for my country where they seem to blame others when they lose in gambling but they also don't realize that it is an action that is actually not really necessary because after all when we look further gambling is a business for them the bookmakers who provide pleasure and we as players only expect luck from the gambling that is done so it is time for us to know and realize that the risk of losing is greater than winning (although there are certainly reversal conditions although it is very rare) so there is no need to look for scapegoats when we lose in gambling that we do ourselves.



I sometimes think that this is a defense mechanism of the human being, who does not accept things as they are, because basically the Things that happen in one's favor are always praised, but when something goes wrong it is much easier to Blame the Other for the failure , very few are the Players who accept that they lost because of themselves , Because of mistakes that Made them lose money, this is what is expected, however, when we are playing at Least I Learned that everything I do is my responsibility, if someone tries to distract me it is up to me that the Priority is the distraction or my game that I am risking money, that person is not going to replace that Money.
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That's the real target of streamers where those who don't know and are not aware will fall for their casino promotion where their other followers will sign-up under their referral link. Because as far as I know, those streamers didn't actually promote gambling casinos before.

You're right, in fact the business is much more lucrative now, when they are streamers out of necessity they turn to them, they do their good marketing to Gain an audience and to gain followers, this is obvious, but since things are different now, in some streamers , not all, ethics have been lost, I always use as an example when NFT games happened , many streamers knew that these Games sometimes didn't have much time and would become scams , even so they promoted them.


I don't know if in this thread, but I think somewhere some numbers have been thrown around as to what these streamers can make from their promotional deals with casinos: in all honesty, does anyone think that deep inside they put fun over financial gain? Anyone who thinks that must be unbelievably naive. Some streamers were willing to give up their good reputations because the deal was so good that they were willing to fuck over their community because it was a once in a lifetime financial opportunity for them. I have seen lots of discussions about that and have to say that some casinos are paying mind-boggling amounts of money to them and the only goal is to get more people onto the slot machines.

I am not against gambling at all, I like to do it at times and participate in some of the things here in the forum and I also feel comfortable wearing a signature as this is more of a passive style that people can click or not. But this insanely aggressive screaming in these twitch streams, oh my god it is actually embarrassing how some streamers who presented themselves in kind ways then turned into some weirdos freaking out about every time they roll the dice so to say. That is nuts and they don't freak out because they enjoy it so much, but because they want to create emotions in those watching it and getting their new accounts fired up.
legendary
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That's the real target of streamers where those who don't know and are not aware will fall for their casino promotion where their other followers will sign-up under their referral link. Because as far as I know, those streamers didn't actually promote gambling casinos before.

You're right, in fact the business is much more lucrative now, when they are streamers out of necessity they turn to them, they do their good marketing to Gain an audience and to gain followers, this is obvious, but since things are different now, in some streamers , not all, ethics have been lost, I always use as an example when NFT games happened , many streamers knew that these Games sometimes didn't have much time and would become scams , even so they promoted them.


The power of money, there's no more care about what's going to happen next directly or indirectly those streamers are fuelling addiction as for sure there are many gamblers who can't resist the pleasure and once they got attached to whatever they've watch from those streamers who are sharing their experienced with the casinos that they are promoting it simply attracts the interest and eventually they will follow them and when they unable to control their emotions, they'll ends up getting addicted or if not that much they ended up losing decent amount of money before they realize such mistakes of following those streamers and hoping that they've experienced that same luck those streamers are sharing during their gambling sessions.
legendary
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That's the real target of streamers where those who don't know and are not aware will fall for their casino promotion where their other followers will sign-up under their referral link. Because as far as I know, those streamers didn't actually promote gambling casinos before.

You're right, in fact the business is much more lucrative now, when they are streamers out of necessity they turn to them, they do their good marketing to Gain an audience and to gain followers, this is obvious, but since things are different now, in some streamers , not all, ethics have been lost, I always use as an example when NFT games happened , many streamers knew that these Games sometimes didn't have much time and would become scams , even so they promoted them.
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Streamers now here in PH most of the time promoting a casino so beside with their live stream they can now earn extra income through out promoting includes also with their referral for sure they have a commission too, I just see few streamers using their money, and we know at ourselves that they are capable to really play gambling with a large amount deposit but those low streamer profile and we know that doesn't have a high class status, few of them reveals that they are using a demo account or a developers account so they can play with a large amount of money and flex into their streams, but after that the invited users already played a lot streamers doesn't care at all because they are thinking they are not accountable at all to those who they invite, we know some of the platform they are promoting is not reliable reason why some of the players account on hold issues, freeze account, and etc. reason why only check reliable streamers with reliable platform just get hype with the wins.
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In my opinion, a streamer can promote fun and can also promote addiction, I think it depends on how you deal with it, but yes I also understand that there will definitely always be some people who really don't know that gambling can trigger addiction, but if for example from the beginning you see the shows made by streamers based on considerations from a rational point of view then you shouldn't be too tempted by the big wins they get.
Some people know nothing about gambling from the beginning, and they just decided to get into it just after they watch some streamer display winning as if it's that easy to win big by just putting in small money.

If there should be some kind of declaimer and warning from the streamer telling the audience that it's not as easy as it appears, then that alone can be able to distract a few from taking the wrong step and DYO before venturing into it fully.

Yup that's true, but I think by the way we respond to the show using common sense and a rational point of view I think it can tell you a little that everything that is too easy to get is unreasonable, I understand that maybe the audience can think that maybe the streamers are really lucky, but with that thought they should also think that "isn't it possible that when they try it they are not as lucky as the streamer". If it's just to be used as an experiment with small bets, that's fine, but what I'm worried about is that they gamble based on unreasonable beliefs and expectations and of course in the end in most cases they lose a lot of money instead of making big wins like the streamers. On the other hand, I just hope that from now on the streamers will broadcast while telling the audience about the dangers of the risks in gambling, but that is very unlikely. Huh
legendary
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I would say not always as sometimes they give out like some really good strategies in wagering a lot of money with little balance. So for only 6 dollars that I had I managed to wagered like near 1000 dollars by going to Plinko 16 rows and low risk. Normally I have tried many other strategies from them like dice 98% or some forms of dice auto bet that you put some conditions to it and some of such strategies have sometimes worked but most of the times have not. So it all depends, I know for sure though that anyone from them promoting a certain slot/s machine it is playing with not real money and am sure sponsored money, so never make the mistake to copy them or try to emulate what they are doing otherwise you would lose a lot of money.
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In my opinion, a streamer can promote fun and can also promote addiction, I think it depends on how you deal with it, but yes I also understand that there will definitely always be some people who really don't know that gambling can trigger addiction, but if for example from the beginning you see the shows made by streamers based on considerations from a rational point of view then you shouldn't be too tempted by the big wins they get.
Some people know nothing about gambling from the beginning, and they just decided to get into it just after they watch some streamer display winning as if it's that easy to win big by just putting in small money.

If there should be some kind of declaimer and warning from the streamer telling the audience that it's not as easy as it appears, then that alone can be able to distract a few from taking the wrong step and DYO before venturing into it fully.
True and the gambling platform want that kind of idea, to lure those people who know nothing about gambling and blind spending money hoping for a hit. The bad thing here is, those streamers doesn't really put disclaimer and such or like putting advice to those who will get in gambling. That's why those who promote gambling because of the referrals, those kinds of people doesn't care who's the target audience of the content because they need a lot of people in the referrals. Those who've been paid before promo, prolly are the ones should give advice and be more concern to their audiences especially if they have kids on their demographics.
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Yes, by concept and it paper, it's really looks easy to implement. But behind, this swap feature might be complicated as we think about it. And so gonna be hard for them to execute and carry out. And then they will have to test it if there are problems or issues. And here we are just talking about the coding and development side.

And if we include those coins involved, then they have to factors as well the liquidity. And if they are just starting up, they could have issues with it as we all know that there are competitions amongst this casino. So very hard for startup, but make sense for those who have brand name and reputation already as their liquidity, i.e. cash reserves + cash flow.
It's actually easy to talk with development, coding and additional features but it's not that easy to execute. While if they have budget on it, they should have deployed it long time ago or if it's part of their road map that has a date that shall be done. There is so much complexity on it while some that are not impress with that feature will criticize the design but not about the technical background that it has for it to run smoothly. Well, zwei is right, there's so much more to it.

I agree with what they say, there is also a certain misgiving when it comes to implementing new currencies in a casino, when they are native what should be done is to have the greatest liquidity to generate confidence, it is not good to launch a topken and then as time goes by it is worth very little, there are casinos that have tried to do it and only one is the one that has convinced me the most, it is difficult because of the work that must be done, but it is not impossible either, Wolfbet may have many things in the future project, but so far as they are going they have a safe step, and the most important thing is that many players trust in what they have and in the casino that is becoming very reliable on bitcointalk.
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In my opinion, a streamer can promote fun and can also promote addiction, I think it depends on how you deal with it, but yes I also understand that there will definitely always be some people who really don't know that gambling can trigger addiction, but if for example from the beginning you see the shows made by streamers based on considerations from a rational point of view then you shouldn't be too tempted by the big wins they get.
Some people know nothing about gambling from the beginning, and they just decided to get into it just after they watch some streamer display winning as if it's that easy to win big by just putting in small money.

If there should be some kind of declaimer and warning from the streamer telling the audience that it's not as easy as it appears, then that alone can be able to distract a few from taking the wrong step and DYO before venturing into it fully.
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Yes they promote fun but in a way that looks very tempting which indirectly makes people curious and want to get the same results as the streamers have gotten, my friend, before the streamers do the broadcast, they must have done research first with the casino about what to do and how the broadcast scenario should work, but of course in the end the goal is still to "get people tempted and register there" with the aim of making a lot of money from more losing gamblers.
The aim of every streamer is to make money from his live streaming, how it gets paid might differs but mostly he gets paid from consumption, could be viewers, subscribers , paid advert an d lot more but what really matters his people are consuming it. Getting people to registered is just a form of advertisement , the total aim is to make money  just like every other streamers.. Gamers,Athletes, Campers, content creators are no difference all are after making money just as Gamblers are after making money from Casinos..I don’t know how he makes money from gamblers losing their games unless there’s some such of an agreement(haven’t heard of that though), all I know is theymake money by people registering to a casino through them.(more like a referral system).
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In my opinion, a streamer can promote fun and can also promote addiction, I think it depends on how you deal with it, but yes I also understand that there will definitely always be some people who really don't know that gambling can trigger addiction, but if for example from the beginning you see the shows made by streamers based on considerations from a rational point of view then you shouldn't be too tempted by the big wins they get.

Streamers promote more of addiction and not fun because they are not enjoying the game they claim to be playing but only doing it because of money and it is what pays the bills. Streamer are using their live streams as a means of earning money therefore they can do anything to just be making money and do not care how their decisions affects the lifes of others consuming their content. But streamers that do nut force their content on others are not guilty of promoting addiction as only the streamers that lie to their audience are guilty. Live streaming is really a good way to spread the truth about Bitcoin so more people should think about being different and making a change by starting to stream that'll promote gambling and Bitcoin in a positive way.
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In my opinion, a streamer can promote fun and can also promote addiction, I think it depends on how you deal with it, but yes I also understand that there will definitely always be some people who really don't know that gambling can trigger addiction, but if for example from the beginning you see the shows made by streamers based on considerations from a rational point of view then you shouldn't be too tempted by the big wins they get.

Because common sense will definitely tell you that anything that is too easy to get doesn't make sense, especially when we talk about finances, and for me these streamers show entertainment because I already know and understand what and how gambling really is, so I don't take it seriously and just watch it to fill my free time.
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Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Well it's hard to let go something that puts food on your table so with this I know so well that gambling streamers promote fun alongside fueling addiction.Cause this are some of their inner strategies to get people to know about that particular sites and thus with so much evidence as this, one won't resist to give a try and that's it you're now stucked in the midst of having fun.

Yes they promote fun but in a way that looks very tempting which indirectly makes people curious and want to get the same results as the streamers have gotten, my friend, before the streamers do the broadcast, they must have done research first with the casino about what to do and how the broadcast scenario should work, but of course in the end the goal is still to "get people tempted and register there" with the aim of making a lot of money from more losing gamblers.
Gambling streamers are majorly promoting addiction indirectly which is a fault of gamblers that are intending to be like them.
I would just waste much of my time to watch streamers because I know that keep an eye on them always could influence the urge of betting especially if we want to make the kind of profits they are making. The addiction aspects is mostly affected by those that don't have the discipline to stay away from gambling or say no to gambling. Gambling is not for everyone and it is good we sensitize others on the risks involved in gambling.
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Money is the main goal and both side are greedy either the streamers, casino owners or even those gamblers they all aiming for the money.
..., some players do it because they want to make a lot of money from the games, if they start copying the methods of some streamers they will have very good results...

That is assuming those streamers are not getting an special treat by the house and getting better changes in slots and other casino games, for the sake of the show and keeping the audience entertained. In reality, there is no strategy to be copied by viewers of those streamers, all the do is to manage their bankroll and push buttons in order to get more money out their luck, there is no strategy behind any of that, just luck and if one does not control oneself, those streamers can push some of their viewers to dive into gambling degeneracy and make them lose thousands or dozens of thousands of dollars, by replicating what they saw on their stream.
In the same way gambling is supposed to be for entertainment purposes, watching streamers to gamble is also supposed to be for entertainment.
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Money is the main goal and both side are greedy either the streamers, casino owners or even those gamblers they all aiming for the money.

That's what resonates the most with all the streamers, there's nothing that attracts them more than having a lot of money in their accounts, those who can promote the sites and can handle it in the long term are the best contracts, it's unfortunate that some do not give importance to the fact that while they do that for money, some players do it because they want to make a lot of money from the games, if they start copying the methods of some streamers they will have very good results, on the contrary they will lose a lot of money, in the end that's all that interests the Company that hires them , the bad thing is that some streamers don't even see if the site is reliable, they take the risk just for the money.

Another bad thing with those streamers they did not mind to do research before promoting the site, they just after with the  money that they'll possibly to earn while promoting the site, when the site scammed people they'll act as a victim too, not minding that with the name they portray there are people who follows them, believing that they do their research.

Those people who follows them  using the platforms mostly taking bigger risk as they are not just gamble with the game but also gamble whether the site will pay them and not to scam them and runaway with their money.
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Money is the main goal and both side are greedy either the streamers, casino owners or even those gamblers they all aiming for the money.

That's what resonates the most with all the streamers, there's nothing that attracts them more than having a lot of money in their accounts, those who can promote the sites and can handle it in the long term are the best contracts, it's unfortunate that some do not give importance to the fact that while they do that for money, some players do it because they want to make a lot of money from the games, if they start copying the methods of some streamers they will have very good results, on the contrary they will lose a lot of money, in the end that's all that interests the Company that hires them , the bad thing is that some streamers don't even see if the site is reliable, they take the risk just for the money.
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Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".
Game streamers are actively streaming because they want to learn how to play the game and also because they are interested in the game. The more they are watching it, the more they will learn how to use some of the tools, like COD.

We learn how to play it online from streamers; the same thing is also a bit applicable with those who are streaming casino games. Streamers find love in it based on how the streamers display winning all the time; even if full tips on how to win the game are not being displayed, they still find a means to convince themselves to try the game anyway.
It is true that many gamblers tend to learn how to play bets on many of these streaming websites but it is also good for us to be wise and take caution on the way we make it an addiction to keep watching streamers playing games online without restrictions.
Many people have became an addictive gamblers because they make it an important activity they can not do without so they can keep trying luck, making money for themselves. Caution need to be taken while we try to make money from gambling.
Even if they learned how to gamble from these streaming platforms, as adults, they should know how to do things properly and tread carefully. One should try the things they were newly aware of bit by bit to check how good they are for them. But the reverse is the case with many, they let loose their guard and believe this is the money-making machine, but it might have ruined enough of their finances before they realise that. Any risky things done electronically these days are to be most wary of, and if at all we want to try them, we should try them cautiously.
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