Topic: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction? - page 3. (Read 4025 times)

Yes, it means we don't have to pay attention or investigate whether the streamer is broadcasting using real money or a demo account, because the scenarios can be different, or it could be that the casino provides the capital as a form of facility, or it could be that it is the streamer's personal money but will be replaced many times over by the casino after the agreement ends, so what we have to focus on here is the impact of the broadcast on the audience, which is certainly as you said that the emotions and pleasure that occur in the streamer in the broadcast can certainly trigger an increase in dopamine levels, confidence and trust in themselves and the minds of the audience, such as motivating and providing solutions to overcome financial problems, but clearly that is a lie, so this is the reason why we are always advised to use common sense and a rational point of view every time we find new things.

Previously, I myself did not believe that they used their own money to gamble in large amounts, but I found several accounts that did use their own money, in the live broadcast I saw a young man who gambled by openly asking his mother to pray for him so that he could get a big win in the gambling he did that time, although his mother answered a little annoyed but he did it. This makes me think that maybe he is a rich person so his gambling also uses his own money.

Some streamers may aim to get many people interested in gambling at the casino they are promoting, but I think there are also those who do it with their own money to increase their own popularity, and if they succeed, they seem to get cooperation with the casino that sees it.

That is true, there are streamers that of course gamble for their own pleasure and uses real money and not just some fake money or balance provided by the sponsor that they have.

I think whether they use not or real money, the emotional being of their audience is being set and we have to watch ourselves out because out of the fun that they provide to everyone, that's how we trigger ourselves with and becomes attracted that we want to gamble because of them.

IMO, me who grow in bitcointalk for years promoting gambling platforms also aware with this kind of judgement. It will always depend on the person if they will bite the promotion, it's also not about in gambling, it's also in general, you buy something that looks cool or awesome that's promoted by a celebrity or streamers but in reality, it's not and can affect something in yourself. The hypocrisy of people in social media is really insane and people should learn that not all in social media should be believed or considered, we have our own minds to analyze what's good or bad to us.

I hate those people who acts godly in social media like they didn't play any gambling platform or maybe they're just jealous because the streamers receiving huge payout from a gambling platform.

Yes, you're right, well I don't understand some streamers, because they can easily make a channel on tik tok and from there the money is more direct, they get people who can give it to them for doing their lives, in fact that social network is the most viral of all, so if they are looking for money they should focus on that one where they can monetize the most, there is no doubt about that, it can be said that if they already have some fame there it is very good.

Current streamers already have a lot of competition, they are already known and apart from that they have to create an audience, a community and that is very difficult, the strategies are many but the path is not easy.

Coming to think of it, the streamers with small numbers are more likely targets to accept advertising anything because firstly they get paid for their time and lastly they don't care about their followers because their numbers are small .

Kind of agree 💯

1xbet is aggressive that's for sure...here on the internet they might have a bad name but out there in the real world, people praise these guys with their incentives and all...

And the worst part is using people that have no idea about gambling and getting into a niche that has innocent people...guess this industry needs some kind of regulations to keep the innocent innocent.

To me it is quite unfair how some people dare to judge steamers based on what they advertise or promote, for example, some weeks ago there were streamers who were promoting a game called "Concord" which was pretty much a bad game and one of the biggest flops in the game industry, and yet they were paid to promote and say it was a pretty good addicting game for everyone to enjoy.
Being a streamer or an influencer is not easy, it means one is self-employed and one needs to carefully decide which sponsors who is going to accept and which ones one will turn away. Those streamers we are rather new and with a small number of viewers are in more pressure to accept being sponsored by casinos and gambling platforms, they are the ones which offer the most money and they ones which pay more attention to the community of streamers in the making.
I have seen 1xbet being sponsoring small YouTube channels which did not have anything to do with gambling, for example.

Whether one is an adult and has access to internet is quite irrelevant to the issue as it stands for now, though. It is very easy to cheat one's age in this modern era, even though KYC seems to be everywhere, it has not been applied yet in streaming and video services like YT.

If we look at it from a perspective that makes winning in gambling way too easy, then you could say they pretty much surprise level of attachment towards gambling from its viewers.

You know, here is this space where it’s highly criticized by so many that are oblivious and ignorant to gambling, having to tell you all about it and it’s always losses. Then you stream some of these guys making it seem easy before your eyes, you’re most likely going to pick up courage, every time you stream, you get more courages to make risky bets.

Either way, it’s always up to you being the gambler to make informed decision on how to go.

The mistakes some people do is that they have believed on those streamers that are just promoting a casino, that when they start gambling they will use the pattern the promoter said on the video. Well those gamblers should know that the promoters don't have anything to lose. Sometimes they share their invite code or promo codes online for new gamblers to use and when a new gambler successfully signed up, after he or she receives his or her first bonus through the promocode he used and successfully withdraw, if he's a greedy gambler, he will deposit again and continue gambling and that's how lose chasing starts

First and foremost,  streamers choose what or who to promote and that's their choice because we all know it's about the money for them.

Secondly, streamers can't be solely responsible for fueling addiction because the industry expects users to be of a certain age to make informed decisions as an adult!!! And if am not mistaken most gambling platforms have something in their T&Cs to do with self exclusion,  and this being an entertainment industry..something in those lines..

And btw, if someone wins big do these same streamers get the same credit as the addiction finger pointing that goes on I thought so, everyone should be responsible for their decisions and not a third party.

That's the real target of streamers where those who don't know and are not aware will fall for their casino promotion where their other followers will sign-up under their referral link. Because as far as I know, those streamers didn't actually promote gambling casinos before.

Then when they had a lot of followers, gambling advertisers contacted streamers who had 100,000 or more followers and offered them a large amount that the streamers would have a hard time refusing. And most of their target followers were ML (mobile legends) gamers and some at Ragnarok players.

Well, you might think that no body is watching them but there are a lot of gamblers watching and some people watching them are also non gamblers who got motivated to start gambling believing that they are going to win just the way those streamers are winning which if they get into gambling and didn't see those wins coming, they could get addicted.

I do agree with most people sentiments or opinions that they will not be using their own money for them to gamble while doing their job, not unless if they will really be that having some reimbursement on the amount that you have used but this is unlikely or not that happening because most of them will really be funded or been provided by the company. Fueling addiction turned out to be true at the time or moment that you will really be that going along into the emotions that you are really that currently feeling on at the time or moment that you do play gambling. Its not really that bad if to gamble on which this one really that needed up to have that control.

The majority of streamers, if we are just going by facts, do not actually use their own money to gamble at the casino they are promoting. There are only two ways they make money there. First, they get paid for advertising and second, they have referral bonuses for any of their followers who sign up under their link at the casino.

Maybe if there are any who are actually playing, it is the money they will gamble with and it is guaranteed to be a large amount, but they will only show a small amount because most of the time they are really just using a demo account.

Yes, that's just one case and it's not always like that, or I mean not all streamers always find it easy to win, but the majority of them do more shows with various things that look very tempting, one of which is the ease of winning.

On the other hand, I don't know if what you said is true or not about some streamers who do gambling shows using real money, but what is certain is that more of them use fake money and also if it is true that they use real money then in my opinion maybe it is money that has been provided by the casino as a facility for streamers.

Yups the idea in your last paragraph is right about common sense, and I will say another reason why we should always be wise and use common sense when assessing various new things that we find, namely so that we are not wrong in concluding and making decisions, in my opinion the point is regardless of whether the streamer gambles using play money or real money, the point is if for example they gamble while doing shows and also include a site link, then that means they are doing a promotion.

If you do have a lot of suspicions like that about streamers after seeing them doing live broadcasts then maybe I would say that you have successfully used your common sense properly and correctly so that you say that what you see from what the streamers do is unreasonable. On the other hand, of course I also agree with you, because it seems very easy for streamers to get a lot of wins in just a short period of time, they are like gamblers who already have a code to crack the algorithm in each game to win, and that is very different from the reality that we experience when we gamble where defeat is much more dominant than victory, meaning I strongly agree that the ease of streamers in achieving victory occurs because of an agreement that occurs behind the scenes between the casino and the streamers.

But it is really that hard to believe that they will really be that using their own money to play gambling or doing up their job because it will really be that understandable that they do really know that they are really that dealing up with something which is really that very risky or really that relies on luck. It is really that hard to believe or something impossible that they will really be that making use of their own money which its really unbelievable. They are really that doing this job because they are really that indeed wanting to earn money on which this is really that their job on doing so and they cant be able to spend out their own money just to do their job. Its totally contradictory.

It is why we must be wise and calm down ourselves when watching an interactive videos from streamers and just consider that is an interesting videos without any intention to follow what they do. Those streamers just do what their job and we do our job which is watch the video and skip it if we thinks that the videos can make us tempt. We don't have to think what other people will do after they watch the videos because we must responsible with ourselves and not let us getting the same like them.

We don't have to think that we can win like the streamers because we are different than them. We are just people who want to search for fun and we have so many things that we can do and not just use gambling. We must thinks that we can not do the same as the streamers who can win easily on the gambling games. Their job is to tempt people with their winning so we must be careful and not follow what they do.

The streamers can get big win in their videos while we will difficult to get the same as them whether we use big money, that doesn't guarantee us to get the big win. Their videos will show their big win and makes people tempt and want to try but we must understand that is just an entertain that the streamers gives to us. We as audience must think that the streamers doing their job and we don't have to follow them especially if we just want to watch their videos.

If people can win from gambling because of following the streamers, that is because of their luck come in the right time. But they will not easily to win in the next rounds because casino will not let you win many times. It is why people must realize that when they can win big, they must stop gambling immediately and takes their win money out from the casino so they can enjoy it.

Streamers getting paid of their job but we don't get anything and just spend our money to follow their way to wins in the casino. But we will not have a big chance to win from the casino because that is what will happen to most people. So we must understand that we don't have to feel sad if we lose but we must control the losses not to become big. The win from the streamers can tempt many people to follow playing gambling but not with us because we know that the streamers win is because the casino helps them to give an interesting entertainment to the audience. That is why we must educate ourselves and realize that the reality will not as easy as we imagine so we must control ourselves when watching the videos.

Of course, there are also those who use their own real money, and maybe their main goal is to want their personal account to become popular with many people following them and becoming their followers because after that there will be benefits that they can get, but maybe with those who have a very large balance and also with a very large bet amount, not all streamers use their real money, I just can't understand why they dare to use a large bet amount and allocate a large amount of money if it is real money. In addition, you must have seen where there are streamers who put a gambling watermark on their screens besides that they provide gambling links that have been prepared for their viewers who are interested in gambling, this is one of the profit-making strategies that they do.

That is one case that we can conclude but I can also say that not all of them are like that.

There tends to be those who are real, really gambling with their real balance and not just some play money given by their sponsored casino.

We have to make our common sense so that we won't be too emotional.