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Of course, it may be that streamers play from pre-prepared accounts that are designed to play for a large audience. After all, if a player lost all his money quickly, no one would be interested in watching him. In addition, the minimum bets on slots are of little interest to anyone, so I think this phenomenon is quite common. These streamers want more and more people to watch them, because this is how they get their income from the gambling platform, so they will try to do a lot to interest their audience. And this can only be done with strong losses and wins, emotional swings are what viewers need.
I agree with you, steamers main aim is to attract viewers, they often highlight their big wins and thus create excitement among the viewers to gamble, Steamers make everything look like it's really easy to win, And with that in mind the visitors started gambling in the casino under the guidance of those steamers, and they always end up losing. So one should be careful while watching such content, and understand that what is shown in the video and how easily they win, it will never happen in reality ever.
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Of course, it may be that streamers play from pre-prepared accounts that are designed to play for a large audience. After all, if a player lost all his money quickly, no one would be interested in watching him. In addition, the minimum bets on slots are of little interest to anyone, so I think this phenomenon is quite common. These streamers want more and more people to watch them, because this is how they get their income from the gambling platform, so they will try to do a lot to interest their audience. And this can only be done with strong losses and wins, emotional swings are what viewers need.
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Even I think even if for example they only make their streaming activity as a side income but I think someone can be very greedy when they see an opportunity because after all everyone will be much happier when they can make more money even though the way they get it is in a way that might be said to be less good. In the real world, the competition to be at the forefront is very tight and that's why I think it's very unlikely for a streamer to care about the fate of their audience when they get an offer from a casino to work together, all they have in mind is how they can continue to increase their wealth, although on the other hand getting a lot of money from cheating or manipulating something looks too commendable but that's what happens in today's era, only we as the audience have to be more careful.
Some streamer might be really caring for their audience.

But for the most of them, let us think that they don't really think at all for their viewers and neither care too. So, it's all about driven potential and profit making for them.

That is the reality and people needs to understand that they need to do it for themselves as they need to earn too.

But I'm sure that's just a few of them and the number can probably still be counted, more of them actually show everything that is tempting to the audience and their goal is only one, which is so that the audience does not hesitate to get involved and register there. We agree here, because after all, we often see people who are even willing to do anything just to get money, meaning it's very small for someone to miss such a good opportunity. So the point is, I think it all comes back to each of us, I hope that all of us, especially people who accidentally or intentionally watch shows from streamers, can always see everything we find from various sides and consider it first before making a decision, the solution in my opinion is only one, namely by being rational and wise when finding something new that we see, it is useful to keep us from making careless decisions.
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They are prioritizing money because streaming is their bread and butter for most of them. Although some just do it part time and that's the reason why they're certain with money.

As long as there's an offer, they'd like to get into it and that's how they make money easy through their hard work through streaming.

They don't mind the affected ones if there's an audience that losses money as long as they've done the proper marketing, that's their job done.

Even I think even if for example they only make their streaming activity as a side income but I think someone can be very greedy when they see an opportunity because after all everyone will be much happier when they can make more money even though the way they get it is in a way that might be said to be less good. In the real world, the competition to be at the forefront is very tight and that's why I think it's very unlikely for a streamer to care about the fate of their audience when they get an offer from a casino to work together, all they have in mind is how they can continue to increase their wealth, although on the other hand getting a lot of money from cheating or manipulating something looks too commendable but that's what happens in today's era, only we as the audience have to be more careful.
Some streamer might be really caring for their audience.

But for the most of them, let us think that they don't really think at all for their viewers and neither care too. So, it's all about driven potential and profit making for them.

That is the reality and people needs to understand that they need to do it for themselves as they need to earn too.
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They are prioritizing money because streaming is their bread and butter for most of them. Although some just do it part time and that's the reason why they're certain with money.

As long as there's an offer, they'd like to get into it and that's how they make money easy through their hard work through streaming.

They don't mind the affected ones if there's an audience that losses money as long as they've done the proper marketing, that's their job done.
Because in the end they only work and the way it works is to introduce sites that have paid them, regardless of whether it is fun or ultimately leads to addiction for both the streamer and the audience they will not care because when the contract has been made then the work must be done especially for those streamers I think addiction will only occur a little especially since they play not with desire like we always do especially we must be aware that the streamer's account is sometimes not the same account as we have (some cases like this) so they will not play using emotions and feelings but they play only because of work demands and regardless of those who do win or lose in the gambling that is done, they will not lose because they will be paid for the work (live streaming) they do.


I certainly agree on this. Livestreamers are just doing what their job requires in order to get paid and be in profits. As long as the audience get attracted and eventually play, that's already their goal, they won't be accountable anymore if ever addiction grows later on. That's actually the reason why I don't see livestreaming is an ideal job. Yes, it's the latest trend in the social media but I won't ever develop passion on this kind of job.

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I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

There are such people will promote anything, no matter how bad or good, as long as it earns them money. I do not mind when people promote casinos or gambling but once they start lying and making fake statements in order to lure more people, I consider it a bad thing.

So it all depends on how they are promoting gambling which makes the difference of whether they are fueling addiction or just fun.
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Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.
Want to get rich quick... they run to gambling because they think gambling is a get-rich-quick scheme.

A streamer cannot be blamed because the profession is just a job or they work with casino affiliates so that they will get incentive pay.
If we can do like a streamer then do it ... I'm sure you will be addicted to the benefits.

But remember being a streamer is not easy let alone building from the bottom for more followers... you have to sacrifice a lot of money or fame.
I prefer to just be a regular gambler and live lowkey, not a streamer where everyone else is into you, and instead of providing fun to the audience, you end up crossing the road but fuel their addiction into gambling. Although it's not their fault because at the end of the day, it's the discipline of individual's gambler should matter, but still the risk to attract people and leave them addicted is always there.
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Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.

Some gamblers knows but because they don't have other ways of making money, they will ratter continue gambling with luck on their mind hoping they win but they don't win anything. There are some gamblers that if you ask them to print you their monthly gambling net deposit and withdrawals from casino, you might be shock there wouldn't be withdrawal, just deposit which shows they just gamble they are not profitable in the things day do.

Some of them aren't really addicted to gambling, they are not but the fact that they have lose huge accumulated sum of money to casino, they will want to see it back to their wallet but unfortunately it's a trap. If you really are going to win gambling, you would have done so many times not when you have loss momeh many times and then you now want to choose your battles, you will not win anything.
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A gambler does not only have a motive behind gambling to have temporary fun but everyone has a different plan behind gambling. If fun was the main objective then no one would risk their hard earned money so much. Most of the members who engage in gambling in new situations are inspired by others. Inspired by others, they start gambling even if they don't have enough knowledge about gambling or gambling skills and as a result they lose their money regularly. 
In the first instance, after losing money by gambling, they have the idea that they will win money by gambling anyway. With such mentality they gamble more and more and they lose more money and at some point they become addicted to gambling.
Let us be frank, gambling is not only for fun but also for profit making as others have said time without number which.i have seen here and physical argument on this, winning make the gambler event more fun and if there is no winning and more losing then  gambling became boring but if the gambler wins some odds then he was will become a motivational speaker instant. Telling people he won games with little amount and they can also try and win. And those are the people that also tell people that they have gambling tips to win bets.
Gambling needs good knowledge and not parochial knowledge to play gamble. And those streamers are influencers that are working for the casino to attract more people to the casino so if you not knowledgeable then you will fall for them and either be scam or loss your funds in the casino.
One of the main reason on why gamblers do keep up on pushing up themselves on playing gambling is really just that indeed for the sake of money and fun will really be just on second priority. They will really be mainly having those thoughts that they can make money with gambling at the same time that they do able to enjoy it out but we do know that making money will really be our main goal into this aspect. Whenever we do see up some advertisement or even into those streams, then as a gambler then you will really be that reacting into it on which you do really know that these things will really be look interesting into your part.
Are the promoting or fueling addiction? For personal approach then you are the ones who do make out some action on trying out to copy them on which it isnt really that right that you will be blaming them up.
Just like on everyones saying that you are the ones who do make out such action and not them. They are just trying out to do their job on showcasing up a particular casino in regarding into their features and other highlights on where they will really be showing it to public. If you are someone who do easily get attracted with these things then you will really be that longing on trying to test it out.
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A gambler does not only have a motive behind gambling to have temporary fun but everyone has a different plan behind gambling. If fun was the main objective then no one would risk their hard earned money so much. Most of the members who engage in gambling in new situations are inspired by others. Inspired by others, they start gambling even if they don't have enough knowledge about gambling or gambling skills and as a result they lose their money regularly. 
In the first instance, after losing money by gambling, they have the idea that they will win money by gambling anyway. With such mentality they gamble more and more and they lose more money and at some point they become addicted to gambling.
Let us be frank, gambling is not only for fun but also for profit making as others have said time without number which.i have seen here and physical argument on this, winning make the gambler event more fun and if there is no winning and more losing then  gambling became boring but if the gambler wins some odds then he was will become a motivational speaker instant. Telling people he won games with little amount and they can also try and win. And those are the people that also tell people that they have gambling tips to win bets.
Gambling needs good knowledge and not parochial knowledge to play gamble. And those streamers are influencers that are working for the casino to attract more people to the casino so if you not knowledgeable then you will fall for them and either be scam or loss your funds in the casino.
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Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.
Want to get rich quick... they run to gambling because they think gambling is a get-rich-quick scheme.

A streamer cannot be blamed because the profession is just a job or they work with casino affiliates so that they will get incentive pay.
If we can do like a streamer then do it ... I'm sure you will be addicted to the benefits.

But remember being a streamer is not easy let alone building from the bottom for more followers... you have to sacrifice a lot of money or fame.
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A gambler does not only have a motive behind gambling to have temporary fun but everyone has a different plan behind gambling. If fun was the main objective then no one would risk their hard earned money so much. Most of the members who engage in gambling in new situations are inspired by others. Inspired by others, they start gambling even if they don't have enough knowledge about gambling or gambling skills and as a result they lose their money regularly. 
In the first instance, after losing money by gambling, they have the idea that they will win money by gambling anyway. With such mentality they gamble more and more and they lose more money and at some point they become addicted to gambling.
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Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.
The whole point is that streamers give false hopes and the one who watches these streams thinks that he can make money just as quickly. But the player does not think that the streamer has his percentage from the casino and his percentage of the profit from those whom he invited to the casino via a referral link. New players for the streamer are only a new monetary resource, it is only a business.
Still, I think it will be the players' fault for not knowing that firsthand. Gambling is a risky industry and steamers are there to advertise them. As players, we should know better. We cannot think like we can like how they did because of most of their games are scripted and they probably just stream the parts where they are near hitting the high multiplier and after they hit it with a reaction that should look legit just so they could pull more players in that gambling site that they are advertising.
It's their job, I don't think we should be pointing fingers at them when all the reason to gamble is on us. We chose to make a bet, live with the results.
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Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.
The whole point is that streamers give false hopes and the one who watches these streams thinks that he can make money just as quickly. But the player does not think that the streamer has his percentage from the casino and his percentage of the profit from those whom he invited to the casino via a referral link. New players for the streamer are only a new monetary resource, it is only a business.
In fact, these types of streamers are mainly involved with those casinos, it is a business for the streamer, their goal is to get new players addicted to those casinos and make them invest money in those casinos.
Because the more new players watch the streamer's stream and and will enter the casino with that streamers referral, the more commissions those streamers will get, because the streamer's profit comes from the player's loss.
So you should stay as far away from these streamer's traps as possible, streamers only highlight gambling wins not loss, and make everyone addicted to casinos, so always careful.
Not a business but rather it is really that a job for them and this is where some influencers do make a living, on which they would really be asked out on marketing or giving out on exposure into something on which it isnt really just that limited to gambling alone but also in other services that needs up such marketing or any business. We cant be able to deny that they do really adds up with that potential addiction into a certain individual but we do really know that when it comes into this aspect on which the ones whose really that at fault on this is the person itself whose really that dealing up with gambling yet they are the ones who do make out such control on whatever they do. People do really just that love on pointing out their fingers and blaming out someone into their current situation on which this one isnt really that right at all. They are really just that doing their job and they are the ones that just making up money on what they are doing. If you do get addicted then there's no other that needs to be blamed up but only yourself. This is why on the time or moment that you do play gambling then it will really be just that according into your own control and the risks involved into it.
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Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.
The whole point is that streamers give false hopes and the one who watches these streams thinks that he can make money just as quickly. But the player does not think that the streamer has his percentage from the casino and his percentage of the profit from those whom he invited to the casino via a referral link. New players for the streamer are only a new monetary resource, it is only a business.
In fact, these types of streamers are mainly involved with those casinos, it is a business for the streamer, their goal is to get new players addicted to those casinos and make them invest money in those casinos.
Because the more new players watch the streamer's stream and and will enter the casino with that streamers referral, the more commissions those streamers will get, because the streamer's profit comes from the player's loss.
So you should stay as far away from these streamer's traps as possible, streamers only highlight gambling wins not loss, and make everyone addicted to casinos, so always careful.
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Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.
The whole point is that streamers give false hopes and the one who watches these streams thinks that he can make money just as quickly. But the player does not think that the streamer has his percentage from the casino and his percentage of the profit from those whom he invited to the casino via a referral link. New players for the streamer are only a new monetary resource, it is only a business.
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True, to be honest I don't know specifically about the clauses of the agreement they make with business actors such as casinos in making deals, but what is certain is clear as you said in your last idea that in this situation their priority is money, nothing else, they take advantage of the large number of followers to seek full profit without caring about any impact that will be experienced by the audience.

On the other hand, as long as I know about gambling, to be honest I have never seen streamers who broadcast while explaining to the audience about the dangers of gambling or the bad impacts that can be caused by gambling, the reason I am sure is because if they did that then the number of enthusiasts would be less and that means the commission they will get from the casino will not be too big.
They are prioritizing money because streaming is their bread and butter for most of them. Although some just do it part time and that's the reason why they're certain with money.

As long as there's an offer, they'd like to get into it and that's how they make money easy through their hard work through streaming.

They don't mind the affected ones if there's an audience that losses money as long as they've done the proper marketing, that's their job done.

Even I think even if for example they only make their streaming activity as a side income but I think someone can be very greedy when they see an opportunity because after all everyone will be much happier when they can make more money even though the way they get it is in a way that might be said to be less good. In the real world, the competition to be at the forefront is very tight and that's why I think it's very unlikely for a streamer to care about the fate of their audience when they get an offer from a casino to work together, all they have in mind is how they can continue to increase their wealth, although on the other hand getting a lot of money from cheating or manipulating something looks too commendable but that's what happens in today's era, only we as the audience have to be more careful.
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Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.
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They are prioritizing money because streaming is their bread and butter for most of them. Although some just do it part time and that's the reason why they're certain with money.

As long as there's an offer, they'd like to get into it and that's how they make money easy through their hard work through streaming.

They don't mind the affected ones if there's an audience that losses money as long as they've done the proper marketing, that's their job done.
Because in the end they only work and the way it works is to introduce sites that have paid them, regardless of whether it is fun or ultimately leads to addiction for both the streamer and the audience they will not care because when the contract has been made then the work must be done especially for those streamers I think addiction will only occur a little especially since they play not with desire like we always do especially we must be aware that the streamer's account is sometimes not the same account as we have (some cases like this) so they will not play using emotions and feelings but they play only because of work demands and regardless of those who do win or lose in the gambling that is done, they will not lose because they will be paid for the work (live streaming) they do.
Of course I do agree with you that most do not play out of the desire to gamble but for earning purposes and Themis earnings are totally different from the reward they get while streaming and such they have no emotions towards their gambles but at this point I do see such adverts and before I got to know so well about gambling I use to try to play plinko on BC.Games because streamers always win when I watch in reality, I lose every time hence this has got me to conclude that streaming gambling activities only send wrong signals to the audience but creates high rate of awareness to people that such casino exist which is why it's probably not going to end.
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what sort of people are watching "gamblers" on these streaming sites and it should be blatantly obvious that they are playing a rigged setup 99% of the time (they might not even know it).


That would be illegal and the casino is risking alot by doing that, they will demonstrating something provably incorrect for the means of profit by deception.  Its unlikely they would give evidence against themselves in that way.

Far more likely is for any company to proceed in a legal path that benefits a perspective of promotion to facilitate more customers.   They only have to show the games being played and its a positive for drawing in at least some new players who wouldnt play otherwise, its not magic.

  I watched alot of these streams, it was just normal gameplay imo and a bit of a laugh as any good streamer manages to do.
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