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Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".

Game streamers are actively streaming because they want to learn how to play the game and also because they are interested in the game. The more they are watching it, the more they will learn how to use some of the tools, like COD.

We learn how to play it online from streamers; the same thing is also a bit applicable with those who are streaming casino games. Streamers find love in it based on how the streamers display winning all the time; even if full tips on how to win the game are not being displayed, they still find a means to convince themselves to try the game anyway.

It is true that many gamblers tend to learn how to play bets on many of these streaming websites but it is also good for us to be wise and take caution on the way we make it an addiction to keep watching streamers playing games online without restrictions.
Many people have became an addictive gamblers because they make it an important activity they can not do without so they can keep trying luck, making money for themselves. Caution need to be taken while we try to make money from gambling.

The only thing that you should be watching out is not to be get addicted with gambling because this is actually the primary issue for most people on dealing up with gambling is that they cant be able to control themselves about on playing on which it do really ends up for them to have some issues in correlated about spending up money because they cant just stop because of addiction. If you wont really be that careful into the things that you've been dealing into and not thinking up sensibly. They will really be only making out some adjustments at the time that they will really be having some problems on which they should have done it earlier. We do know that when it comes to this manner then each person is really that different on approach.

Streamers are really just that doing their job on which making up some marketing and exposure into the site or platform that they are working with. Are they fueling up the addiction? No. You are the ones who do make out decisions on trying out to make out some deposit on a certain site and decide to play gambling not them. It is on personal choice whether the would be playing or not. If you cant be able to control yourself on spending then better not to play gambling at all from the beginning.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on December 18, 2024, 05:22:50 PM

Quote from: SamReomo on October 21, 2024, 06:36:36 PM

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Well it's hard to let go something that puts food on your table so with this I know so well that gambling streamers promote fun alongside fueling addiction.Cause this are some of their inner strategies to get people to know about that particular sites and thus with so much evidence as this, one won't resist to give a try and that's it you're now stucked in the midst of having fun.

Yes they promote fun but in a way that looks very tempting which indirectly makes people curious and want to get the same results as the streamers have gotten, my friend, before the streamers do the broadcast, they must have done research first with the casino about what to do and how the broadcast scenario should work, but of course in the end the goal is still to "get people tempted and register there" with the aim of making a lot of money from more losing gamblers.

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Quote from: Orpichukwu on December 15, 2024, 04:52:32 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on December 12, 2024, 09:15:33 AM

Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".

Game streamers are actively streaming because they want to learn how to play the game and also because they are interested in the game. The more they are watching it, the more they will learn how to use some of the tools, like COD.

We learn how to play it online from streamers; the same thing is also a bit applicable with those who are streaming casino games. Streamers find love in it based on how the streamers display winning all the time; even if full tips on how to win the game are not being displayed, they still find a means to convince themselves to try the game anyway.

It is true that many gamblers tend to learn how to play bets on many of these streaming websites but it is also good for us to be wise and take caution on the way we make it an addiction to keep watching streamers playing games online without restrictions.
Many people have became an addictive gamblers because they make it an important activity they can not do without so they can keep trying luck, making money for themselves. Caution need to be taken while we try to make money from gambling.

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Quote from: SamReomo on October 21, 2024, 06:36:36 PM

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Well it's hard to let go something that puts food on your table so with this I know so well that gambling streamers promote fun alongside fueling addiction.Cause this are some of their inner strategies to get people to know about that particular sites and thus with so much evidence as this, one won't resist to give a try and that's it you're now stucked in the midst of having fun.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 18, 2024, 02:57:49 PM

Quote from: Raflesia on December 12, 2024, 04:49:50 PM

Saying they are carried away by others to gamble is just an excuse so that they can gamble but do not want to be considered that they are people who gamble because they do not want the negative stigma attached to them just because they gamble. So that by looking at this, actually the existence of streamers who do live gambling or not is not a reason because more people gamble based on their own desires.

You're right and I think that when eprosans lose they look for excuses that the streamer guaranteed it, or that it was their fault, that is something that does not apply, eproasn suffer from that "what will they say" and they are embarrassed to realize that the mistake was totally theirs, I am not like that, I am not ashamed at all, if I lose I say it and I say that it was my fault and that it makes me angry for having done that, because I should have played better or I should have made another decision or maybe retired in time, the streamer only cares about his audience, his followers and that's it.

When we gamble on our own without any coercion or interest just because other people are doing it then things might be different but that will not be found with people who just start gambling just because they are interested when other people are doing it (including streamers) and they get benefits quickly and instantly without having to wait long.

This kind of thing is often found especially for my country where they seem to blame others when they lose in gambling but they also don't realize that it is an action that is actually not really necessary because after all when we look further gambling is a business for them the bookmakers who provide pleasure and we as players only expect luck from the gambling that is done so it is time for us to know and realize that the risk of losing is greater than winning (although there are certainly reversal conditions although it is very rare) so there is no need to look for scapegoats when we lose in gambling that we do ourselves.

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Quote from: Raflesia on December 12, 2024, 04:49:50 PM

Saying they are carried away by others to gamble is just an excuse so that they can gamble but do not want to be considered that they are people who gamble because they do not want the negative stigma attached to them just because they gamble. So that by looking at this, actually the existence of streamers who do live gambling or not is not a reason because more people gamble based on their own desires.

You're right and I think that when eprosans lose they look for excuses that the streamer guaranteed it, or that it was their fault, that is something that does not apply, eproasn suffer from that "what will they say" and they are embarrassed to realize that the mistake was totally theirs, I am not like that, I am not ashamed at all, if I lose I say it and I say that it was my fault and that it makes me angry for having done that, because I should have played better or I should have made another decision or maybe retired in time, the streamer only cares about his audience, his followers and that's it.

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Quote from: danadc on December 17, 2024, 12:11:10 AM

Quote from: boltz on December 12, 2024, 05:29:56 PM

Seems this phenomenon is slowly getting out of control right ? in Romania , I can already see youtubers that are around 20 years old and switched from streaming games to streaming slots and other casino games which is pretty sad at this point because most of them are losing a big chuck of their fan base just because they got a great deal with some casinos. What is actually concerning me is that these young streamers who are doing only slot streams are having a fan base where people under 18 years old are also watching.

You may have noticed that slots have a lot of players and a lot of money is involved, in Europe and I think almost all over the world people want more money and they want to win big, so youtubers take advantage of this large number of enthusiastic people, and since everything is a business to be able to make some money, many people eat by watching these videos and on YouTube and on live networks, many strategies can be generated that some players apply, this is what can be said, there is a business out of everything.

It's a big industry to hit and streamers understand the full potential of this venue, and knowing most of the streamers they'll penetrate and they will take that chance to make money out from this venues, I like the way you point it out youtubers use this platforms to gain interest not just for those gamblers but also those avid followers.

If they see opportunities they'll make sure to tie it up with the casino owners, showing the numbers of viewers and possible numbers of traffics that they can provide.

Money is the main goal and both side are greedy either the streamers, casino owners or even those gamblers they all aiming for the money.

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From viewers point of view, what is the difference between gambling streamer and watching movie? Viewers watches created context. Those who say that streamers are fueling addiction, then what is your opinion on watching actions, thrillers, comedies movies? Do they fuel stupidity, clumsiness, violence? Or they are for fun? I want to find logic why watching someone gambling online might force me to gamble, but watching Substance will not be a call to consult a plastic surgeon to change my look or try to search for holy grail to become immortal.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 15, 2024, 06:48:42 PM

Quote from: Wakate on December 15, 2024, 05:26:03 PM

Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.

Allowing streamers to convince you to gamble is a dumb thing to do. Nobody should tell you to gamble when you don't want to gamble previously. The streamers can give you options on which game you'll want to play and you try them out depending on your abilities and to have some fun as well. Streamers aren't promoting fun as they claim to do, they're fueling addiction because all they do is for their paycheck and not for your interest.

They're acting as influencer to try in influencing you to try out the new games they're promoting which they were paid for which the games aren't always that interesting of a game to bet on and they too get to audiences that weren't supposed to see the content because of their immaturity. Steamers are only there for the likes and cash.

It is dumb after you try it out yourself and you find out that it was all a lie, winning isn't always easy like those streamers make it seems.

You call it dumb because people will surely lose money, but will it be dumb if the majority are getting positive results? I don't think so.

A beginner or newbie will never know, until they give a try and find out the truth themselves, and if you don't give something a try how will you find out if it will work or not? We can judge like this because we already know how gambling always turn out.

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Quote from: boltz on December 12, 2024, 05:29:56 PM

Seems this phenomenon is slowly getting out of control right ? in Romania , I can already see youtubers that are around 20 years old and switched from streaming games to streaming slots and other casino games which is pretty sad at this point because most of them are losing a big chuck of their fan base just because they got a great deal with some casinos. What is actually concerning me is that these young streamers who are doing only slot streams are having a fan base where people under 18 years old are also watching.

You may have noticed that slots have a lot of players and a lot of money is involved, in Europe and I think almost all over the world people want more money and they want to win big, so youtubers take advantage of this large number of enthusiastic people, and since everything is a business to be able to make some money, many people eat by watching these videos and on YouTube and on live networks, many strategies can be generated that some players apply, this is what can be said, there is a business out of everything.

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Quote from: samuraijin on December 16, 2024, 08:14:40 PM

It is impossible for me if Streamers and influencers do not have a goal to make money, it all comes back to trust but only a few do that, of course there is a goal for Streamers and influencers to get results from the streaming they do, of course they get royalties from their streaming and not to mention the donations made by the audience will certainly give the impression of entertainment and at the same time lead the audience without realizing it they are falling into the trap of gambling sites promoted by the Streamers and influencers.

It all comes back to the audience how they consume their shows, because everyone has different characteristics in responding to their own shows.

It is impossible if the streamer or influencer has no purpose to make a profit, with them doing this in my opinion it is clearly the goal to generate even greater profits, why do they do this? Because they want to get a greater profit so from that they expand their marketing scale by working with certain people to promote the casino and clearly the goal is for greater profits.
And with what you say that the Streamer shows depending on the responses of each individual are true, but I myself believe that even though their purpose is to make many people live by seeing gambling they do there are also intentions or goals to develop their personal benefits. Some casinos are currently competing to place their casino advertisements in various kinds of temoats and this is done of course to make their jabgkaan and its support.

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Quote from: Wakate on December 15, 2024, 05:26:03 PM

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Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".

Well, you might think that no body is watching them but there are a lot of gamblers watching and some people watching them are also non gamblers who got motivated to start gambling believing that they are going to win just the way those streamers are winning which if they get into gambling and didn't see those wins coming, they could get addicted.

Most of these streamers and gambling influencers are in the vague of making consistent money for themselves without considering who is affected by their gambling influence and activities. Many streamers are not even chronic gamblers and they know how to make their games looks quite inviting to everyone that is ready to keep an attentive ears. Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.

It is impossible for me if Streamers and influencers do not have a goal to make money, it all comes back to trust but only a few do that, of course there is a goal for Streamers and influencers to get results from the streaming they do, of course they get royalties from their streaming and not to mention the donations made by the audience will certainly give the impression of entertainment and at the same time lead the audience without realizing it they are falling into the trap of gambling sites promoted by the Streamers and influencers.

It all comes back to the audience how they consume their shows, because everyone has different characteristics in responding to their own shows.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 15, 2024, 11:39:45 AM

Possible, as they wanted to get the attention of the site though if they are using their own money and addiction triggers that will bring a big problem to them, knowing that in gambling there's always a chance that you'll going to get deep and your engagement will ruin your finances, that's another thing though as instead of getting the attention of the site and get the opportunities to promote them, when they see that you are losing decent amount of money they'll just let you keep playing and lose more.

Streamers most of the time use their popularities and like how the topic said they fueling gambling to those who don't have any idea and to those who follows them that already engage with gambling, the main intension is to work with the site nd use their play money to gain more people to watch and follow you to use the gambling site offer services.

There will be no messy finances as long as we have good self-control and discipline in gambling but indeed controlling yourself in gambling is difficult bro, I myself felt it when I first got to know gambling and after experiencing a bad incident that's when I really realized myself not to gamble excessively anymore or another intention is to apply strict discipline because it's for my own good too.

I myself agree that streamers can trigger addiction because their goal is to seek profit, whether it's profit from gambling or from increasing the popularity of their accounts, besides that, most likely many people who like gambling will definitely be interested in the victory that is usually displayed by the streamer.

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Quote from: Zadicar on December 15, 2024, 11:30:36 PM

Quote from: alastantiger on December 15, 2024, 06:48:42 PM

Allowing streamers to convince you to gamble is a dumb thing to do. Nobody should tell you to gamble when you don't want to gamble previously. The streamers can give you options on which game you'll want to play and you try them out depending on your abilities and to have some fun as well. Streamers aren't promoting fun as they claim to do, they're fueling addiction because all they do is for their paycheck and not for your interest.

They're acting as influencer to try in influencing you to try out the new games they're promoting which they were paid for which the games aren't always that interesting of a game to bet on and they too get to audiences that weren't supposed to see the content because of their immaturity. Steamers are only there for the likes and cash.

If ever a streamer do make out some kind of forceful act about on convincing others then it will be surely that getting up that kind of bad impression on which it is really that not likely that they will really be doing it. Yes, we do understand on what their job is to hook up people but it is really that not on the way that they will really be forcing out people on doing so. They will really be just that making it as interesting as possible on which actions and impressions will really be at peak on trying out to hook up people to play and since they are that funded then they wont really be caring about into the amount that they will really be using into and also that playing gambling will definitely be depending on you in the end of the day. You cant blame them if it turned out that you've been that getting addicted into it.

Basically, before the streamers do streaming, they must have or prepared a plan about how the broadcast scenario they will do, and of course there will be no element of coercion, at least maybe just an idea like an invitation but still normal, the reason is no different from what you said that if they force it will certainly raise a lot of suspicion and create a bad impression that most likely can make the audience not want to watch it again because they are worried.

Actually, that is the reason why streamers often do broadcasts that look very fun and tempting, none other than to be able to attract the attention of the audience purely with what they see. On the other hand, maybe I agree with your opinion that we can't blame them if in the end we are addicted, but actually the streamers are also wrong because from the start they must have known about the impact that could be caused to other people from the promotion they do.

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Quote from: Zadicar on December 15, 2024, 11:30:36 PM

If ever a streamer do make out some kind of forceful act about on convincing others then it will be surely that getting up that kind of bad impression on which it is really that not likely that they will really be doing it. Yes, we do understand on what their job is to hook up people but it is really that not on the way that they will really be forcing out people on doing so. They will really be just that making it as interesting as possible on which actions and impressions will really be at peak on trying out to hook up people to play and since they are that funded then they wont really be caring about into the amount that they will really be using into and also that playing gambling will definitely be depending on you in the end of the day. You cant blame them if it turned out that you've been that getting addicted into it.

The goal of a streamer who has collaborated with a particular casino site, of course they will package it as attractively as possible to attract many people to register and play at the casino. That is a form of marketing that everyone will definitely do.
However, to force them, there must also be limits or they will also maintain their image. Or usually they will say something that sounds more subtle, for example by recommending where they play and even then they will always give a statement that they are not forcing.
This method can be said to be effective, because when a streamer has a big name, of course many people will believe it or at least they know that the recommended casino is not a fraudulent casino.

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Today I was casually watching videos on YouTube about gambling and I encountered some recopilations of clips of a guy who streams himself gambling on stake and also on chipps. He does not seem to be sponsored by any casino or any outside entity, even though he has a fairly popular kick channel.
He guy literally burns money on live and then proceeds to destroy furniture and his own bedroom door after losing thousands of dollars in games like Plinko,.mines and black jack (I have not seen him playing crash yet, though).

It is quite depressing how he even begs money to his viewers so he can continue to gamble for a little longer (and there is always someone willing to give him a little bit of a tip, so he can continue on).
It is a very high contrast to other gambling streamers which seemely have better look and are heavily sponsored by casinos of huge influence, having someone to throw away thousands of dollars while at the same time living a their parent's house and destroying their property out of rage is quite disturbing and depressing. It shows not all gambling streamers are lucky or can show off big gains thanks to their good luck...

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 15, 2024, 06:48:42 PM

Quote from: Wakate on December 15, 2024, 05:26:03 PM

Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.

Allowing streamers to convince you to gamble is a dumb thing to do. Nobody should tell you to gamble when you don't want to gamble previously. The streamers can give you options on which game you'll want to play and you try them out depending on your abilities and to have some fun as well. Streamers aren't promoting fun as they claim to do, they're fueling addiction because all they do is for their paycheck and not for your interest.

They're acting as influencer to try in influencing you to try out the new games they're promoting which they were paid for which the games aren't always that interesting of a game to bet on and they too get to audiences that weren't supposed to see the content because of their immaturity. Steamers are only there for the likes and cash.

If ever a streamer do make out some kind of forceful act about on convincing others then it will be surely that getting up that kind of bad impression on which it is really that not likely that they will really be doing it. Yes, we do understand on what their job is to hook up people but it is really that not on the way that they will really be forcing out people on doing so. They will really be just that making it as interesting as possible on which actions and impressions will really be at peak on trying out to hook up people to play and since they are that funded then they wont really be caring about into the amount that they will really be using into and also that playing gambling will definitely be depending on you in the end of the day. You cant blame them if it turned out that you've been that getting addicted into it.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 15, 2024, 06:48:42 PM

Quote from: Wakate on December 15, 2024, 05:26:03 PM

Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.

Allowing streamers to convince you to gamble is a dumb thing to do. Nobody should tell you to gamble when you don't want to gamble previously. The streamers can give you options on which game you'll want to play and you try them out depending on your abilities and to have some fun as well. Streamers aren't promoting fun as they claim to do, they're fueling addiction because all they do is for their paycheck and not for your interest.

They're acting as influencer to try in influencing you to try out the new games they're promoting which they were paid for which the games aren't always that interesting of a game to bet on and they too get to audiences that weren't supposed to see the content because of their immaturity. Steamers are only there for the likes and cash.

I've seen lots of streamers here in our country that promotes and also convinces their followers to register on the website using their referral link. For me, they're the most selfish of the most selfish and the only thing that they're thinking is themselves. I despite them, but at the end of the day, the only thing that I can do is to rant and these followers will still have the final decision on whether they will gamble or not. They might be fueling addiction, but it's our decision as their followers if we will do it or not.

Well, I guess this is why they're being called as "INFLUENCERS" because they're influencing their followers, but this time, in a negative way. There are some that are streaming for the commission and profit of course, and don't care about their followers. There are some though that still care their followers, and you know how they care about them? Giving some cash to those who follows him on the SocMed platform and at the same time, registered under their referral link. Very selfish, right? Unfortunately, it seems like there's no stopping to these influencers.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on December 15, 2024, 04:40:36 PM

Quote from: jossiel on December 14, 2024, 06:08:32 PM

That is true, there are streamers that of course gamble for their own pleasure and uses real money and not just some fake money or balance provided by the sponsor that they have.

I think whether they use not or real money, the emotional being of their audience is being set and we have to watch ourselves out because out of the fun that they provide to everyone, that's how we trigger ourselves with and becomes attracted that we want to gamble because of them.

It's fun that grows into addiction in most cases. Some streamers might just start out on the ground of having fun be it with fake or real money and over time they get overwhelmed by the fun and excitement especially when there is a recorded case of aega win. And in such cases the eagerness to engage more for a possible happy ending and turns out they get trapped in their own quest make a big blow and end up in addiction.

Anything that involves consistency grows into addiction over time. I also have this notion that anything that has money involved must have emotional attachment. The anxiety to win, the fear of losing, the consciousness of trying to make right choices. I mean the list is long and unending and at the end it turns out into addiction if not properly managed

Yes, the list is long with that as you're saying and it's true that if it's not managed properly, it could be wrong in the end.

While the streamers are simply having fun with their games and chitchat while doing their thing and games. They're also getting paid to do it so it's an easy motivation to do so.

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Quote from: Wakate on December 15, 2024, 05:26:03 PM

Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.

Allowing streamers to convince you to gamble is a dumb thing to do. Nobody should tell you to gamble when you don't want to gamble previously. The streamers can give you options on which game you'll want to play and you try them out depending on your abilities and to have some fun as well. Streamers aren't promoting fun as they claim to do, they're fueling addiction because all they do is for their paycheck and not for your interest.

They're acting as influencer to try in influencing you to try out the new games they're promoting which they were paid for which the games aren't always that interesting of a game to bet on and they too get to audiences that weren't supposed to see the content because of their immaturity. Steamers are only there for the likes and cash.

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