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Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.

Allowing streamers to convince you to gamble is a dumb thing to do. Nobody should tell you to gamble when you don't want to gamble previously. The streamers can give you options on which game you'll want to play and you try them out depending on your abilities and to have some fun as well. Streamers aren't promoting fun as they claim to do, they're fueling addiction because all they do is for their paycheck and not for your interest.

They're acting as influencer to try in influencing you to try out the new games they're promoting which they were paid for which the games aren't always that interesting of a game to bet on and they too get to audiences that weren't supposed to see the content because of their immaturity. Steamers are only there for the likes and cash.

It is dumb after you try it out yourself and you find out that it was all a lie, winning isn't always easy like those streamers make it seems.

You call it dumb because people will surely lose money, but will it be dumb if the majority are getting positive results? I don't think so.

A beginner or newbie will never know, until they give a try and find out the truth themselves, and if you don't give something a try how will you find out if it will work or not? We can judge like this because we already know how gambling always turn out.
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Seems this phenomenon is slowly getting out of control right ? in Romania , I can already see youtubers that are around 20 years old and switched from streaming games to streaming slots and other casino games which is pretty sad at this point because most of them are losing a big chuck of their fan base just because they got a great deal with some casinos. What is actually concerning me is that these young streamers who are doing only slot streams are having a fan base where people under 18 years old are also watching.




You may have noticed that slots have a lot of players and a lot of money is involved, in Europe and I think almost all over the world people want more money and they want to win big, so youtubers take advantage of this large number of enthusiastic people, and since everything is a business to be able to make some money, many people eat by watching these videos and on YouTube and on live networks, many strategies can be generated that some players apply, this is what can be said, there is a business out of everything.

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It is impossible for me if Streamers and influencers do not have a goal to make money, it all comes back to trust but only a few do that, of course there is a goal for Streamers and influencers to get results from the streaming they do, of course they get royalties from their streaming and not to mention the donations made by the audience will certainly give the impression of entertainment and at the same time lead the audience without realizing it they are falling into the trap of gambling sites promoted by the Streamers and influencers.

It all comes back to the audience how they consume their shows, because everyone has different characteristics in responding to their own shows.
It is impossible if the streamer or influencer has no purpose to make a profit, with them doing this in my opinion it is clearly the goal to generate even greater profits, why do they do this? Because they want to get a greater profit so from that they expand their marketing scale by working with certain people to promote the casino and clearly the goal is for greater profits.
And with what you say that the Streamer shows depending on the responses of each individual are true, but I myself believe that even though their purpose is to make many people live by seeing gambling they do there are also intentions or goals to develop their personal benefits. Some casinos are currently competing to place their casino advertisements in various kinds of temoats and this is done of course to make their jabgkaan and its support.
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Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".

Well, you might think that no body is watching them but there are a lot of gamblers watching and some people watching them are also non gamblers who got motivated to start gambling believing that they are going to win just the way those streamers are winning which if they get into gambling and didn't see those wins coming, they could get addicted.
Most of these streamers and gambling influencers are in the vague of making consistent money for themselves without considering who is affected by their gambling influence and activities. Many streamers are not even chronic gamblers and they know how to make their games looks quite inviting to everyone that is ready to keep an attentive ears. Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.
It is impossible for me if Streamers and influencers do not have a goal to make money, it all comes back to trust but only a few do that, of course there is a goal for Streamers and influencers to get results from the streaming they do, of course they get royalties from their streaming and not to mention the donations made by the audience will certainly give the impression of entertainment and at the same time lead the audience without realizing it they are falling into the trap of gambling sites promoted by the Streamers and influencers.

It all comes back to the audience how they consume their shows, because everyone has different characteristics in responding to their own shows.
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Possible, as they wanted to get the attention of the site though if they are using their own money and addiction triggers that will bring a big problem to them, knowing that in gambling there's always a chance that you'll going to get deep and your engagement will ruin your finances, that's another thing though as instead of getting the attention of the site and get the opportunities to promote them, when they see that you are losing decent amount of money they'll just let you keep playing and lose more.

Streamers most of the time use their popularities and like how the topic said they fueling gambling to those who don't have any idea and to those who follows them that already engage with gambling, the main intension is to work with the site nd use their play money to gain more people to watch and follow you to use the gambling site offer services.
There will be no messy finances as long as we have good self-control and discipline in gambling but indeed controlling yourself in gambling is difficult bro, I myself felt it when I first got to know gambling and after experiencing a bad incident that's when I really realized myself not to gamble excessively anymore or another intention is to apply strict discipline because it's for my own good too.

I myself agree that streamers can trigger addiction because their goal is to seek profit, whether it's profit from gambling or from increasing the popularity of their accounts, besides that, most likely many people who like gambling will definitely be interested in the victory that is usually displayed by the streamer.
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Allowing streamers to convince you to gamble is a dumb thing to do. Nobody should tell you to gamble when you don't want to gamble previously. The streamers can give you options on which game you'll want to play and you try them out depending on your abilities and to have some fun as well. Streamers aren't promoting fun as they claim to do, they're fueling addiction because all they do is for their paycheck and not for your interest.

They're acting as influencer to try in influencing you to try out the new games they're promoting which they were paid for which the games aren't always that interesting of a game to bet on and they too get to audiences that weren't supposed to see the content because of their immaturity. Steamers are only there for the likes and cash.
If ever a streamer do make out some kind of forceful act about on convincing others then it will be surely that getting up that kind of bad impression on which it is really that not likely that they will really be doing it. Yes, we do understand on what their job is to hook up people but it is really that not on the way that they will really be forcing out people on doing so. They will really be just that making it as interesting as possible on which actions and impressions will really be at peak on trying out to hook up people to play and since they are that funded then they wont really be caring about into the amount that they will really be using into and also that playing gambling will definitely be depending on you in the end of the day. You cant blame them if it turned out that you've been that getting addicted into it.

Basically, before the streamers do streaming, they must have or prepared a plan about how the broadcast scenario they will do, and of course there will be no element of coercion, at least maybe just an idea like an invitation but still normal, the reason is no different from what you said that if they force it will certainly raise a lot of suspicion and create a bad impression that most likely can make the audience not want to watch it again because they are worried.

Actually, that is the reason why streamers often do broadcasts that look very fun and tempting, none other than to be able to attract the attention of the audience purely with what they see. On the other hand, maybe I agree with your opinion that we can't blame them if in the end we are addicted, but actually the streamers are also wrong because from the start they must have known about the impact that could be caused to other people from the promotion they do.
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If ever a streamer do make out some kind of forceful act about on convincing others then it will be surely that getting up that kind of bad impression on which it is really that not likely that they will really be doing it. Yes, we do understand on what their job is to hook up people but it is really that not on the way that they will really be forcing out people on doing so. They will really be just that making it as interesting as possible on which actions and impressions will really be at peak on trying out to hook up people to play and since they are that funded then they wont really be caring about into the amount that they will really be using into and also that playing gambling will definitely be depending on you in the end of the day. You cant blame them if it turned out that you've been that getting addicted into it.
The goal of a streamer who has collaborated with a particular casino site, of course they will package it as attractively as possible to attract many people to register and play at the casino. That is a form of marketing that everyone will definitely do.
However, to force them, there must also be limits or they will also maintain their image. Or usually they will say something that sounds more subtle, for example by recommending where they play and even then they will always give a statement that they are not forcing.
This method can be said to be effective, because when a streamer has a big name, of course many people will believe it or at least they know that the recommended casino is not a fraudulent casino.
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Today I was casually watching videos on YouTube about gambling and I encountered some recopilations of clips of a guy who streams himself gambling on stake and also on chipps. He does not seem to be sponsored by any casino or any outside entity, even though he has a fairly popular kick channel.
He guy literally burns money on live and then proceeds to destroy furniture and his own bedroom door after losing thousands of dollars in games like Plinko,.mines and black jack (I have not seen him playing crash yet, though).

It is quite depressing how he even begs money to his viewers so he can continue to gamble for a little longer (and there is always someone willing to give him a little bit of a tip, so he can continue on).
It is a very high contrast to other gambling streamers which seemely have better look and are heavily sponsored by casinos of huge influence, having someone to throw away thousands of dollars while at the same time living a their parent's house and destroying their property out of rage is quite disturbing and depressing. It shows not all gambling streamers are lucky or can show off big gains thanks to their good luck...
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Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.

Allowing streamers to convince you to gamble is a dumb thing to do. Nobody should tell you to gamble when you don't want to gamble previously. The streamers can give you options on which game you'll want to play and you try them out depending on your abilities and to have some fun as well. Streamers aren't promoting fun as they claim to do, they're fueling addiction because all they do is for their paycheck and not for your interest.

They're acting as influencer to try in influencing you to try out the new games they're promoting which they were paid for which the games aren't always that interesting of a game to bet on and they too get to audiences that weren't supposed to see the content because of their immaturity. Steamers are only there for the likes and cash.
If ever a streamer do make out some kind of forceful act about on convincing others then it will be surely that getting up that kind of bad impression on which it is really that not likely that they will really be doing it. Yes, we do understand on what their job is to hook up people but it is really that not on the way that they will really be forcing out people on doing so. They will really be just that making it as interesting as possible on which actions and impressions will really be at peak on trying out to hook up people to play and since they are that funded then they wont really be caring about into the amount that they will really be using into and also that playing gambling will definitely be depending on you in the end of the day. You cant blame them if it turned out that you've been that getting addicted into it.
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Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.

Allowing streamers to convince you to gamble is a dumb thing to do. Nobody should tell you to gamble when you don't want to gamble previously. The streamers can give you options on which game you'll want to play and you try them out depending on your abilities and to have some fun as well. Streamers aren't promoting fun as they claim to do, they're fueling addiction because all they do is for their paycheck and not for your interest.

They're acting as influencer to try in influencing you to try out the new games they're promoting which they were paid for which the games aren't always that interesting of a game to bet on and they too get to audiences that weren't supposed to see the content because of their immaturity. Steamers are only there for the likes and cash.
I've seen lots of streamers here in our country that promotes and also convinces their followers to register on the website using their referral link. For me, they're the most selfish of the most selfish and the only thing that they're thinking is themselves. I despite them, but at the end of the day, the only thing that I can do is to rant and these followers will still have the final decision on whether they will gamble or not. They might be fueling addiction, but it's our decision as their followers if we will do it or not.

Well, I guess this is why they're being called as "INFLUENCERS" because they're influencing their followers, but this time, in a negative way. There are some that are streaming for the commission and profit of course, and don't care about their followers. There are some though that still care their followers, and you know how they care about them? Giving some cash to those who follows him on the SocMed platform and at the same time, registered under their referral link. Very selfish, right? Unfortunately, it seems like there's no stopping to these influencers.
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That is true, there are streamers that of course gamble for their own pleasure and uses real money and not just some fake money or balance provided by the sponsor that they have.

I think whether they use not or real money, the emotional being of their audience is being set and we have to watch ourselves out because out of the fun that they provide to everyone, that's how we trigger ourselves with and becomes attracted that we want to gamble because of them.

It's fun that grows into addiction in most cases. Some streamers might just start out on the ground of having fun be it with fake or real money and over time they get overwhelmed by the fun and excitement especially when there is a recorded case of aega win. And in such cases the eagerness to engage more for a possible happy ending and turns out they get trapped in their own quest make a big blow and end up in addiction.

Anything that involves consistency grows into addiction over time. I also have this notion that anything that has money involved must have emotional attachment. The anxiety to win, the fear of losing, the consciousness of trying to make right choices. I mean the list is long and unending and at the end it turns out into addiction if not properly managed
Yes, the list is long with that as you're saying and it's true that if it's not managed properly, it could be wrong in the end.

While the streamers are simply having fun with their games and chitchat while doing their thing and games. They're also getting paid to do it so it's an easy motivation to do so.
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Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.

Allowing streamers to convince you to gamble is a dumb thing to do. Nobody should tell you to gamble when you don't want to gamble previously. The streamers can give you options on which game you'll want to play and you try them out depending on your abilities and to have some fun as well. Streamers aren't promoting fun as they claim to do, they're fueling addiction because all they do is for their paycheck and not for your interest.

They're acting as influencer to try in influencing you to try out the new games they're promoting which they were paid for which the games aren't always that interesting of a game to bet on and they too get to audiences that weren't supposed to see the content because of their immaturity. Steamers are only there for the likes and cash.
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Game streamers are actively streaming because they want to learn how to play the game and also because they are interested in the game. The more they are watching it, the more they will learn how to use some of the tools, like COD.

We learn how to play it online from streamers; the same thing is also a bit applicable with those who are streaming casino games. Streamers find love in it based on how the streamers display winning all the time; even if full tips on how to win the game are not being displayed, they still find a means to convince themselves to try the game anyway.
Meanwhile the streamers are streaming because they are making some good money off it so they keep their audience glued all the time. And of a truth people do stream to learn about some futures they didn't know about on a game and to get better at the game but it still doesn't eliminate addiction gotten of trying to be pro at the game, most times the gamers my get addicted trying so hard to learn because they will have to consistently play to be able to perfect their skills around some of the things they will be learning streeming.
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Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".

Well, you might think that no body is watching them but there are a lot of gamblers watching and some people watching them are also non gamblers who got motivated to start gambling believing that they are going to win just the way those streamers are winning which if they get into gambling and didn't see those wins coming, they could get addicted.
Most of these streamers and gambling influencers are in the vague of making consistent money for themselves without considering who is affected by their gambling influence and activities. Many streamers are not even chronic gamblers and they know how to make their games looks quite inviting to everyone that is ready to keep an attentive ears. Every gamblers need to use their head because streamers should not be held responsible for our own mistakes or gambling activities. Those streamers are there to make life better for themselves while we should also take our gambling interest moderate and not too excessive.
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Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".
Game streamers are actively streaming because they want to learn how to play the game and also because they are interested in the game. The more they are watching it, the more they will learn how to use some of the tools, like COD.

We learn how to play it online from streamers; the same thing is also a bit applicable with those who are streaming casino games. Streamers find love in it based on how the streamers display winning all the time; even if full tips on how to win the game are not being displayed, they still find a means to convince themselves to try the game anyway.
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That is true, there are streamers that of course gamble for their own pleasure and uses real money and not just some fake money or balance provided by the sponsor that they have.

I think whether they use not or real money, the emotional being of their audience is being set and we have to watch ourselves out because out of the fun that they provide to everyone, that's how we trigger ourselves with and becomes attracted that we want to gamble because of them.

It's fun that grows into addiction in most cases. Some streamers might just start out on the ground of having fun be it with fake or real money and over time they get overwhelmed by the fun and excitement especially when there is a recorded case of aega win. And in such cases the eagerness to engage more for a possible happy ending and turns out they get trapped in their own quest make a big blow and end up in addiction.

Anything that involves consistency grows into addiction over time. I also have this notion that anything that has money involved must have emotional attachment. The anxiety to win, the fear of losing, the consciousness of trying to make right choices. I mean the list is long and unending and at the end it turns out into addiction if not properly managed
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That is true, there are streamers that of course gamble for their own pleasure and uses real money and not just some fake money or balance provided by the sponsor that they have.

I think whether they use not or real money, the emotional being of their audience is being set and we have to watch ourselves out because out of the fun that they provide to everyone, that's how we trigger ourselves with and becomes attracted that we want to gamble because of them.

Yes, it means we don't have to pay attention or investigate whether the streamer is broadcasting using real money or a demo account, because the scenarios can be different, or it could be that the casino provides the capital as a form of facility, or it could be that it is the streamer's personal money but will be replaced many times over by the casino after the agreement ends, so what we have to focus on here is the impact of the broadcast on the audience, which is certainly as you said that the emotions and pleasure that occur in the streamer in the broadcast can certainly trigger an increase in dopamine levels, confidence and trust in themselves and the minds of the audience, such as motivating and providing solutions to overcome financial problems, but clearly that is a lie, so this is the reason why we are always advised to use common sense and a rational point of view every time we find new things.
Most of the casinos that have sponsorship to the streamers, they're giving out balance. But I don't know if they're allowing them to withdraw it so it is working kind of a play money for demo purposes.

That's why I admire more those streamers that are using real money and gambles wherever they want without having any sponsorship from any casino.
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But it is really that hard to believe that they will really be that using their own money to play gambling or doing up their job because it will really be that understandable that they do really know that they are really that dealing up with something which is really that very risky or really that relies on luck. It is really that hard to believe or something impossible that they will really be that making use of their own money which its really unbelievable. They are really that doing this job because they are really that indeed wanting to earn money on which this is really that their job on doing so and they cant be able to spend out their own money just to do their job. Its totally contradictory.
Previously, I myself did not believe that they used their own money to gamble in large amounts, but I found several accounts that did use their own money, in the live broadcast I saw a young man who gambled by openly asking his mother to pray for him so that he could get a big win in the gambling he did that time, although his mother answered a little annoyed but he did it. This makes me think that maybe he is a rich person so his gambling also uses his own money.

Some streamers may aim to get many people interested in gambling at the casino they are promoting, but I think there are also those who do it with their own money to increase their own popularity, and if they succeed, they seem to get cooperation with the casino that sees it.

Possible, as they wanted to get the attention of the site though if they are using their own money and addiction triggers that will bring a big problem to them, knowing that in gambling there's always a chance that you'll going to get deep and your engagement will ruin your finances, that's another thing though as instead of getting the attention of the site and get the opportunities to promote them, when they see that you are losing decent amount of money they'll just let you keep playing and lose more.

Streamers most of the time use their popularities and like how the topic said they fueling gambling to those who don't have any idea and to those who follows them that already engage with gambling, the main intension is to work with the site nd use their play money to gain more people to watch and follow you to use the gambling site offer services.
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Yes, that's just one case and it's not always like that, or I mean not all streamers always find it easy to win, but the majority of them do more shows with various things that look very tempting, one of which is the ease of winning.

On the other hand, I don't know if what you said is true or not about some streamers who do gambling shows using real money, but what is certain is that more of them use fake money and also if it is true that they use real money then in my opinion maybe it is money that has been provided by the casino as a facility for streamers.

Yups the idea in your last paragraph is right about common sense, and I will say another reason why we should always be wise and use common sense when assessing various new things that we find, namely so that we are not wrong in concluding and making decisions, in my opinion the point is regardless of whether the streamer gambles using play money or real money, the point is if for example they gamble while doing shows and also include a site link, then that means they are doing a promotion.
That is true, there are streamers that of course gamble for their own pleasure and uses real money and not just some fake money or balance provided by the sponsor that they have.

I think whether they use not or real money, the emotional being of their audience is being set and we have to watch ourselves out because out of the fun that they provide to everyone, that's how we trigger ourselves with and becomes attracted that we want to gamble because of them.

Yes, it means we don't have to pay attention or investigate whether the streamer is broadcasting using real money or a demo account, because the scenarios can be different, or it could be that the casino provides the capital as a form of facility, or it could be that it is the streamer's personal money but will be replaced many times over by the casino after the agreement ends, so what we have to focus on here is the impact of the broadcast on the audience, which is certainly as you said that the emotions and pleasure that occur in the streamer in the broadcast can certainly trigger an increase in dopamine levels, confidence and trust in themselves and the minds of the audience, such as motivating and providing solutions to overcome financial problems, but clearly that is a lie, so this is the reason why we are always advised to use common sense and a rational point of view every time we find new things.
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But it is really that hard to believe that they will really be that using their own money to play gambling or doing up their job because it will really be that understandable that they do really know that they are really that dealing up with something which is really that very risky or really that relies on luck. It is really that hard to believe or something impossible that they will really be that making use of their own money which its really unbelievable. They are really that doing this job because they are really that indeed wanting to earn money on which this is really that their job on doing so and they cant be able to spend out their own money just to do their job. Its totally contradictory.
Previously, I myself did not believe that they used their own money to gamble in large amounts, but I found several accounts that did use their own money, in the live broadcast I saw a young man who gambled by openly asking his mother to pray for him so that he could get a big win in the gambling he did that time, although his mother answered a little annoyed but he did it. This makes me think that maybe he is a rich person so his gambling also uses his own money.

Some streamers may aim to get many people interested in gambling at the casino they are promoting, but I think there are also those who do it with their own money to increase their own popularity, and if they succeed, they seem to get cooperation with the casino that sees it.
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