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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Yes, I am one of those who say that streamers do promotional broadcasts using fake accounts or accounts that have been provided by the casino, which accounts have been set up behind the scenes so that the chances of winning are high in any type of game that will be played by the streamers, I think the reason is clear that it doesn't make sense to see big wins that are very easy for these streamers to get, plus they do it like they don't feel any tension even though it is clear that they are betting with high stakes.

So with those who bet without feeling tense at all, I think that can be used as one reason to say that yes they bet using fake accounts where all the money in the account is fake money. On the other hand, as we know, how difficult it is to win, especially in casino games and that means the big wins that streamers achieve are unrealistic

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Quote from: SamReomo on October 21, 2024, 06:36:36 PM

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

Exactly they are just promoting the fun with the fact that it'll definitely lead a gambler to losses thereby making them make a whole lot of money from their streaming and this is why alot of gamblers shouldn't relent on gambling with what they can afford to lose. Because the streamers are paid to do their job of making sure more people see reasons to gamble thereby fueling the room for addiction.

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Quote from: Kavelj22 on November 14, 2024, 02:43:28 PM

These streamers have channels with a huge number of real subscribers so that the streamers can get deals from the gambling platforms that they will promote in each show episode. It is unlikely that this number of subscribers are forced to remain on the channel, or that they are all new to the field, given the number of live views. The number may reach thousands on some channels.
Who watches those streamers? And who is susceptible to them?
I find my question about “Who are the people who follow and are influenced by these channels” valid and worthy of an answer?

It is likely that the viewers of those streamers are also gamblers that are looking to have some fun with the casino that they're affiliated with it. So, the other classification are the ones that like to watch them because they're very entertaining.

The latter are the ones that don't mind watching them and without being influenced of going on with the casino that they promote.

There are still people that don't get easily influenced by the people they follow because of beliefs and stands that they have for themselves. But if it's about entertainment value, they're on it.

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Quote from: Kavelj22 on November 14, 2024, 02:43:28 PM

These streamers have channels with a huge number of real subscribers so that the streamers can get deals from the gambling platforms that they will promote in each show episode. It is unlikely that this number of subscribers are forced to remain on the channel, or that they are all new to the field, given the number of live views. The number may reach thousands on some channels.
Who watches those streamers? And who is susceptible to them?
I find my question about “Who are the people who follow and are influenced by these channels” valid and worthy of an answer?

Obviously people who followed gambling streamers are gambler themselves. A person would not find entertainment from these gambling streamers if they were not into gambling. I believe Gambling streamers are promoting the casino primarily, the fun part is secondary. And whether it fuels gambling addiction depends on the audience's control so I think the fueling addiction is subjective.

Quote from: livingfree on November 14, 2024, 02:37:13 PM

The reality is they are up for fun. But they don't know that there's an equal reaction to it on the opposite side and that's when one of their fans start to contain gambling addiction because they've seen the example through the gambling streamers.

Streamers are up for income not for fun, that is the reality that I believe. I also think that there are not ignorant about the fact that their action has huge effect on their viewers that is why some of the gambling streamers often reminds about responsible gambling.

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But I think as fans or viewers, we understand that there's a contagious element in there because that's gambling. No one is here to be blamed but it's all about accountability for ourselves for any results that we may get.

True that, we are responsible for our actions.

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These streamers have channels with a huge number of real subscribers so that the streamers can get deals from the gambling platforms that they will promote in each show episode. It is unlikely that this number of subscribers are forced to remain on the channel, or that they are all new to the field, given the number of live views. The number may reach thousands on some channels.
Who watches those streamers? And who is susceptible to them?
I find my question about “Who are the people who follow and are influenced by these channels” valid and worthy of an answer?

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The reality is they are up for fun. But they don't know that there's an equal reaction to it on the opposite side and that's when one of their fans start to contain gambling addiction because they've seen the example through the gambling streamers.

But I think as fans or viewers, we understand that there's a contagious element in there because that's gambling. No one is here to be blamed but it's all about accountability for ourselves for any results that we may get.

So, if a gambling streamer keeps on doing that, he's up for it for a living and that's his main niche to start with. But if a fan starts to get that feeling of addiction, there's a need to contain and stop that at least when it's starting to show some signs.

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Gambling streamers be aware from these type of people. Keep in mind that it is 100% not random outcome when they are playing and this is something I have no way to proof except all gamblers in all chats of the casinos I play agree on this, they are not using random outcomes, something is fishy about them, how come those people keep hit those huge wins while other people who play even more money than them do not have a chance to hit the max win in quite a much longer time span, that says a lot doesn't it ?

They are just fueling addiction as they don't care for you, you want of course to emulate their success but good luck with that, by doing so you have guaranteed lost sessions, consecutive ones I would dare say, so please do yourself a favor and stop following such people, I have clicked unfollow on every one of them, they made me lose a lot of times.

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Quote from: uneng on November 07, 2024, 05:53:58 PM

I totally agree with you. Those streamers think to be smart for deceiving their audience in exchange of easy and big money, but at some point they are going to face the consequences for their bad acts. It's an universal law which can't be avoided by anyone. There are actually honest and responsible ways to advertise gambling, so the issue here isn't gambling itself, but how it's being promoted on the internet and television. Most advertisements lack transparency nowadays, and that is what cause most criticizes against gambling.

At same time, I think it's good for people to stop idolizing celebrities, since these famous people just want to take advantage of them and grab their money. Society has an illusion that if someone is famous and appear on the television or at popular internet channels, they can be trusted. Unfortunatelly, it's still a strong common sense everywhere.

There are a lot of biases the average person has, for example an attractive person is thought to be more intelligent and trustworthy than a person that is not attractive, which is complete nonsense as there is no direct correlation between those two characteristics, however unless a person is specifically looking to eliminate some of their prejudices, they will never do so, giving influencers a great deal of power over their followers due to the nature of their job.

Exactly, as they use their popularity to gain the attentions of those people who are following them, it's the advantage that they've got especially those who already established their names and casino owners are willing to pay them decently knowing that they can gain from those visits and logins coming from people who got attracted thingking that the streamers knows well and they have thta credibility to advertise, the name link to the house get the trust from people who support and idolized those streamers.

From the reason you stated alone, we have enough reasons we should beware of streamers but focus on reality. This age is not the one we should lose our guard about, what we hear or even see on social media is deceit now, no one can be trusted, they are just influencing and collecting their money. The choice is ours though, even if we opt for any services due to some conviction and performance, we should start cautiously. Nothing is wrong in starting a little and if it is going south, do not hesitate to quit, it could be a trap.

Indeed, with all those available information online it's up to us to decide, those we seen being shared online are mostly for ads to attract potential clients, the services of those streamers are for their own benefits and nothing else, and just to point it out gambling is a game of risk plus the fact that casinos are business.

They'll never hire and pay to simply promote but they are more on the side where deeper connections are already established and those streamers capabilities to influence people to sign up and use their services.

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Their main goal is to attract many people to gamble at the casino they promote, with the fun still making sense and if it's about addiction or making it addictive it seems more about each individual's problem about how their mindset is in terms of gambling, if they really think gambling can make them money then addiction is something that will definitely happen with a big possibility that cannot be avoided. Meanwhile, for people who already understand the concept of gambling, they will not be easily attracted to what the streamers do, get, and say. Because the big reality is that it is likely just manipulation to make the casino have many visitors. However, what the casino does is not wrong because this is a business so they have to develop it in various ways that can currently be utilized, one of which is by hiring people who have great popularity, of course that can make the casino crowded with visitors.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on November 13, 2024, 02:42:17 AM

We cant really be able to deny that there would really be those times or moments that we do have our own idols on which on the moment that you've seen them hitting up some nasty jackpots or good wins
then it will really be giving out that kind of boost up on which on the moment that you've been trying out to do gambling. There are those who do able to control themselves and there are ones who will really be that delusional into the things that they are dealing on with which is really that bad for someone. You will really be putting up yourself on a hard situation on the moment that you will be having this kind of approach. It will really be that important that you should really be that careful on how to deal up with,

Streamers are really just that doing their job and it will really be that impossible that as an individual then you wont really be able to determine whether the thing you've been doing is right or wrong.
It will really be that too impossible that you cant be able to see yourself that spending too much money on the moment that you do gamble. They are making money on just
simply having exposure on a certain gambling site on which we know that marketing is something a default thing to them.

So that is why we must be careful when watching the streamers because they can lure us easily and makes us follow what they say. Only with a strong handling over ourselves that will help us to stay away from what they offers and only enjoy their videos as an entertainment. We don't want to gets deeper in gambling so we just watch their video and will not tempting to follow what they say.

Those streamers make much money from what they gives to their follower. So they will still gives other videos that show their winning to attract more attention from their followers. We as an audience must be wise when watching their videos and will not attract to follow them. We know that gambling will not gives the money easily instead will take our money.

When you are really just that sensible into the things that happening around then you wont really be that making yourself that get easily addicted with gambling. You could really be able to adjust accordingly and as long you would really be that mindful about on whats happening and on the moment you've seen that you are gradually becoming that addicted, then this is the time that you would be making out some adjustment.
There would really be those individuals that do easily that getting boosted up whenever they do see someone who do make money and do make out engagement and lose up their control just because they've been expecting that too much. It isnt really that bad on having that kind of engagement with gambling but of course you will really be needing that self control and moderation.

Streamers are really just that doing their job on making up some exposure into a certain gambling site or any service. As long they are getting paid and do the job done then its something
that bring out that good income to them. They dont care nor mind into the people who are really that dealing with addiction because of what they do saw.

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Quote from: madnessteat on November 13, 2024, 03:15:46 AM

Quote from: stomachgrowls on November 13, 2024, 02:42:17 AM

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I absolutely agree with you. Many people do not understand why they are inspired by this or that idol, so they stop thinking critically, repeating his activity. We love our idols not because they gamble and not for what they are like in life. Most of us fall in love only with the image of an idol, which in fact turns out to be just a veil hiding their true personality. And in fact, each of us must learn to distinguish advertising from the real content that is made for people.

I count it as being childish and foolish to regard a person as an idol and mimick every thing you see that person do or try to be just the same as the image or personality they portray themselves to be. This is how so many in our societies are deceived into acts they ordinarily should not get themselves involved in simply because it's an act they think their idol is into..

It's just like an actor who is always very good when he plays the role of a criminal in his movies, and someone watching decided to become a criminal in real life because that what he or she watch his or her idol do in movies, they completely forget that movies is far different from reality, and that in reality, that actor is not a criminal but only an actor and he is paid to do what ever he does.

In the same vain, it is wrong to follow the steps of gambling streamers, for it is possible that they are paid to promote the casino they are gambling on, and those wins that happen while they are streaming live have already been arranged.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on November 13, 2024, 02:42:17 AM

We cant really be able to deny that there would really be those times or moments that we do have our own idols on which on the moment that you've seen them hitting up some nasty jackpots or good wins
then it will really be giving out that kind of boost up on which on the moment that you've been trying out to do gambling. There are those who do able to control themselves and there are ones who will really be that delusional into the things that they are dealing on with which is really that bad for someone. You will really be putting up yourself on a hard situation on the moment that you will be having this kind of approach. It will really be that important that you should really be that careful on how to deal up with,

Streamers are really just that doing their job and it will really be that impossible that as an individual then you wont really be able to determine whether the thing you've been doing is right or wrong.
It will really be that too impossible that you cant be able to see yourself that spending too much money on the moment that you do gamble. They are making money on just
simply having exposure on a certain gambling site on which we know that marketing is something a default thing to them.

So that is why we must be careful when watching the streamers because they can lure us easily and makes us follow what they say. Only with a strong handling over ourselves that will help us to stay away from what they offers and only enjoy their videos as an entertainment. We don't want to gets deeper in gambling so we just watch their video and will not tempting to follow what they say.

Those streamers make much money from what they gives to their follower. So they will still gives other videos that show their winning to attract more attention from their followers. We as an audience must be wise when watching their videos and will not attract to follow them. We know that gambling will not gives the money easily instead will take our money.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 10, 2024, 09:22:21 AM

Quote from: Silberman on November 08, 2024, 01:36:24 PM

Quote from: uneng on November 07, 2024, 05:53:58 PM

I totally agree with you. Those streamers think to be smart for deceiving their audience in exchange of easy and big money, but at some point they are going to face the consequences for their bad acts. It's an universal law which can't be avoided by anyone. There are actually honest and responsible ways to advertise gambling, so the issue here isn't gambling itself, but how it's being promoted on the internet and television. Most advertisements lack transparency nowadays, and that is what cause most criticizes against gambling.

At same time, I think it's good for people to stop idolizing celebrities, since these famous people just want to take advantage of them and grab their money. Society has an illusion that if someone is famous and appear on the television or at popular internet channels, they can be trusted. Unfortunatelly, it's still a strong common sense everywhere.

There are a lot of biases the average person has, for example an attractive person is thought to be more intelligent and trustworthy than a person that is not attractive, which is complete nonsense as there is no direct correlation between those two characteristics, however unless a person is specifically looking to eliminate some of their prejudices, they will never do so, giving influencers a great deal of power over their followers due to the nature of their job.

Exactly, as they use their popularity to gain the attentions of those people who are following them, it's the advantage that they've got especially those who already established their names and casino owners are willing to pay them decently knowing that they can gain from those visits and logins coming from people who got attracted thingking that the streamers knows well and they have thta credibility to advertise, the name link to the house get the trust from people who support and idolized those streamers.

From the reason you stated alone, we have enough reasons we should beware of streamers but focus on reality. This age is not the one we should lose our guard about, what we hear or even see on social media is deceit now, no one can be trusted, they are just influencing and collecting their money. The choice is ours though, even if we opt for any services due to some conviction and performance, we should start cautiously. Nothing is wrong in starting a little and if it is going south, do not hesitate to quit, it could be a trap.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

The motive of using streamers with huge followings is to tap in those numbers & help in brand awareness and get more customers on board for the purpose of having fun which is the primary goal, anything that follows is secondary and as adults you are expected to have the self control to avoid falling into the trap of gambling addiction..which is why self exclusion is available on some well established casinos/Sportsbook if you fell you need a time out.

It would be unfair to say the fueling addiction, when we all know greed fuels addiction!!!

Remember gamble responsibly.

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Quote from: Accardo on November 10, 2024, 10:19:57 AM

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We should not be more focused on what we see others do in gambling because at the end, we are going to realize that everyone is only working for his own interest and don't want to consider what others may be going through by what they are promoting or doing, gambling streamers are not promoting addiction, because gambling itself can be addictive if the gambler is not taking measures to avoid getting over it too much, there are things expected of us to do in ensuring that the way we are gambling is not being affected by us, if it does, then we have to retrace our steps and have a review on how we are gambling, no one causes addiction on us if we do not do it by ourselves.

Those streamers are sound and aware of the type of effects or reaction they need from their viewers. Promoting on live streams a consistent gambling habit would lure some naive players to think it's the right form of gambling that actually made the influencers to always win. Hence viewers with little experience may abstain from seeing the promoters play.

Exactly those who are fanatics and a real follower might think that influencers are really trying to help them winning, but the sole intentions is to gain the attention and bring those clicks and referrals to earn decently, those who got a little experienced might learn things the hard ways as they might lose a lot before they realize that it's more about money and the streamers don't care about them.

Just purely trying to lure those viewers to use their referrals and use the platform that they are promoting to gamble and play.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on November 13, 2024, 02:42:17 AM

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I absolutely agree with you. Many people do not understand why they are inspired by this or that idol, so they stop thinking critically, repeating his activity. We love our idols not because they gamble and not for what they are like in life. Most of us fall in love only with the image of an idol, which in fact turns out to be just a veil hiding their true personality. And in fact, each of us must learn to distinguish advertising from the real content that is made for people.

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Quote from: uneng on November 07, 2024, 05:53:58 PM

At same time, I think it's good for people to stop idolizing celebrities, since these famous people just want to take advantage of them and grab their money. Society has an illusion that if someone is famous and appear on the television or at popular internet channels, they can be trusted. Unfortunatelly, it's still a strong common sense everywhere.

Yes, indeed things are like that, I have seen how many idolize influential people and those influential people do not even realize who that person is, the most famous influencers have their life practically resolved, they have their popularity, they have their fame, the people who idolize them do not, unless they work with them, yes, they can admire themselves, it is something that is not denied to them because we all have tastes and we can continue, support, but to a certain point , the important thing about all this is to know that if they are going to put money in a casino they should know very well where they are doing it, not because an influencer says so.

That is because people also wants their lives like their idol so they will follow whatever their idol do. But that will not happen to those people as their lives will not be the same as their idols. If they watch influencers showing their video when playing gambling and follow that without thinking much, they will see that they only lose their money without have a big chance to win. Gambling streamers only promoting fun and the site so people must be wise when watch their videos and not just follows without searching for more information.

We cant really be able to deny that there would really be those times or moments that we do have our own idols on which on the moment that you've seen them hitting up some nasty jackpots or good wins
then it will really be giving out that kind of boost up on which on the moment that you've been trying out to do gambling. There are those who do able to control themselves and there are ones who will really be that delusional into the things that they are dealing on with which is really that bad for someone. You will really be putting up yourself on a hard situation on the moment that you will be having this kind of approach. It will really be that important that you should really be that careful on how to deal up with,

Streamers are really just that doing their job and it will really be that impossible that as an individual then you wont really be able to determine whether the thing you've been doing is right or wrong.
It will really be that too impossible that you cant be able to see yourself that spending too much money on the moment that you do gamble. They are making money on just
simply having exposure on a certain gambling site on which we know that marketing is something a default thing to them.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on November 12, 2024, 09:00:30 PM

Quote from: uneng on November 07, 2024, 05:53:58 PM

At same time, I think it's good for people to stop idolizing celebrities, since these famous people just want to take advantage of them and grab their money. Society has an illusion that if someone is famous and appear on the television or at popular internet channels, they can be trusted. Unfortunatelly, it's still a strong common sense everywhere.

Yes, indeed things are like that, I have seen how many idolize influential people and those influential people do not even realize who that person is, the most famous influencers have their life practically resolved, they have their popularity, they have their fame, the people who idolize them do not, unless they work with them, yes, they can admire themselves, it is something that is not denied to them because we all have tastes and we can continue, support, but to a certain point , the important thing about all this is to know that if they are going to put money in a casino they should know very well where they are doing it, not because an influencer says so.

That is because people also wants their lives like their idol so they will follow whatever their idol do. But that will not happen to those people as their lives will not be the same as their idols. If they watch influencers showing their video when playing gambling and follow that without thinking much, they will see that they only lose their money without have a big chance to win. Gambling streamers only promoting fun and the site so people must be wise when watch their videos and not just follows without searching for more information.

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Quote from: uneng on November 07, 2024, 05:53:58 PM

At same time, I think it's good for people to stop idolizing celebrities, since these famous people just want to take advantage of them and grab their money. Society has an illusion that if someone is famous and appear on the television or at popular internet channels, they can be trusted. Unfortunatelly, it's still a strong common sense everywhere.

Yes, indeed things are like that, I have seen how many idolize influential people and those influential people do not even realize who that person is, the most famous influencers have their life practically resolved, they have their popularity, they have their fame, the people who idolize them do not, unless they work with them, yes, they can admire themselves, it is something that is not denied to them because we all have tastes and we can continue, support, but to a certain point , the important thing about all this is to know that if they are going to put money in a casino they should know very well where they are doing it, not because an influencer says so.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

Streamers promote these gambling platforms purely for financial incentives, and it’s a troubling trend. By showcasing gambling as entertaining or profitable, they create a false impression that encourages viewers to participate without understanding the risks (that's when minors are very vulnerable). Gambling, especially in online casinos, is not a reliable way to earn passive income, it often leads to significant financial loss.

These platforms are designed to keep players hooked while the odds remain heavily stacked in favor of the owner of the online casino. As more people fall for the illusion of easy money, the real winners are usually the platforms and the influencers who profit from these sponsorships, while viewers are left facing the consequences. Sad but it's currently the situation here in the Philippines.

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