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Quote from: Lida93 on December 08, 2024, 08:55:35 PM

I read how people keep giving excuses for these social media gamble influencers about a whole lot of them don't really have a little or good idea of what they are promoting to their fans. And am perplexed with each times I come across these flimsy excuses made on behalf of these well educated and informed guys who harps mainly for the cash they are paid to do what they do and scarcely have no best interest of their followers in mind.

Sometimes followers do Whatever it takes to gain Followers, more Audiences, or the bad thing is that many do not tell the truth and make the site's Advertising look easy to get money from them, that is what you should be most afraid of and careful about , it is very easy for them to be deceived, but those who fall the most are the people who are new to Casinos, seeing that there are so many opportunities and that an influencer bets big, many want to do the same , but it is in most cases that they fail.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on December 12, 2024, 11:11:53 PM

Quote from: nara1892 on December 11, 2024, 10:27:47 PM

Of course, and I think if for example from the beginning we already know about the reason why a streamer always easily makes money or big wins in gambling then I think it is impossible for someone to feel too tempted by the big wins achieved by the streamer which indirectly will also make them avoid various aggressive actions because they already know the truth. Basically, these streamers are just doing their job (although it is full of manipulation) but I am sure that if you were in their position you would also do the same thing by getting money from the offers given by the casino. So in the end the point is that we are the ones who have to be smart and wise in responding to everything we have just found, simply if for example you feel that what you see is unreasonable then don't make a decision right away.

Yes, that is right so we don't take seriously of what we watch from them and consider that they doing their job to attract a weak people who will follow them to playing gambling without thinks to limit their gambling activities. A streamer will be easy to win the money because we thinks that is already set by the casino so those who watch will think that the streamer wins is because they have their luck. People will think that they also have their luck and want to follow the streamer to playing gambling but the reality will not gives the win to them but only give them lose much money. Yes, we must be smart and wise in responding what we see on social media so we can act what is need. We don't have to playing gambling like those streamers because we don't have much money and that can risk us to lose all of the money we have.

Streamers are doing paid jobs and whatever they do is to please who is paying them, that is why I don't take gambling streamers too seriously, it's most probable that everything we see them do are programmed to entice more people to try out gambling. My concern is for the people that are watching them and don't know how gambling works in reality, they will think that it is a gateway to quick riches but in reality it is not. In gambling there are more loses than wins, people who don't understand this simple fact will watch streamers and jump into gambling with all their money and most probably experience more loses than wins. In the process of recovering loses they might become addicted. People who gamble needs to learn how to gamble responsibly, not getting carried away by what they watch on social media

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Quote from: jossiel on December 12, 2024, 04:42:01 PM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on December 12, 2024, 08:20:28 AM

Basically in any case being wise and rational is always recommended to anyone in any situation, because that way you will be able to judge or know whether what you see is realistic or unreasonable, and also by thinking wisely and rationally then you will also feel that there seems to be something strange or suspicious, I'm sure you will have such thoughts if only you are able to apply a rational and wise mindset every time you find something new.

On the other hand, it is a fact that there is no coercion at all from any party, especially from streamers to follow the activities they do, in the end of course it comes back to each of us and above I have said about how to behave properly in finding everything new that you see, because that way it should be less likely for you to feel tempted by anything that feels unreasonable.

I agree.

With the streams that I have seen, most of them are unreal. They're just putting some hype on the casino they advertise and that's what they want to show to their audience.

If you can assume that the results of the victories obtained by the streamers are not real, it means that you are really able to use your common sense and rational point of view well, my friend, and that is what we should do before we make a decision as I have said above. On the other hand, what also makes me feel strange is that I have never seen a streamer who experiences defeat when they are broadcasting, 90% of them always manage to achieve big wins very easily and of course the situation is the opposite of the situation we experience when we are gambling which is actually much more defeat than victory, and from there we can actually conclude that we should be suspicious and not easily tempted by anything that seems too easy to get.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on December 12, 2024, 11:11:53 PM

Quote from: nara1892 on December 11, 2024, 10:27:47 PM

Of course, and I think if for example from the beginning we already know about the reason why a streamer always easily makes money or big wins in gambling then I think it is impossible for someone to feel too tempted by the big wins achieved by the streamer which indirectly will also make them avoid various aggressive actions because they already know the truth. Basically, these streamers are just doing their job (although it is full of manipulation) but I am sure that if you were in their position you would also do the same thing by getting money from the offers given by the casino. So in the end the point is that we are the ones who have to be smart and wise in responding to everything we have just found, simply if for example you feel that what you see is unreasonable then don't make a decision right away.

Yes, that is right so we don't take seriously of what we watch from them and consider that they doing their job to attract a weak people who will follow them to playing gambling without thinks to limit their gambling activities. A streamer will be easy to win the money because we thinks that is already set by the casino so those who watch will think that the streamer wins is because they have their luck. People will think that they also have their luck and want to follow the streamer to playing gambling but the reality will not gives the win to them but only give them lose much money. Yes, we must be smart and wise in responding what we see on social media so we can act what is need. We don't have to playing gambling like those streamers because we don't have much money and that can risk us to lose all of the money we have.

Of course, and also actually even if for example the big win is achieved by someone else and not by the streamers, or what is meant is that those who managed to get the big win are ordinary gamblers like us, then it doesn't mean that we will also be able to get results like them even if for example we gamble in the same way as they do, because after all like the concept of gambling in general that the results in the next time do not depend on the previous results.

The point is whoever manages to win especially outside of a streamer then it is a result that occurs because of luck that comes at the right time, and on the other hand what you said is true that often people think that they will also be able to get the same luck as the streamers if only they gamble on the site promoted by the streamers, when in fact it is a manipulated result, but the point is as I said before that we must always be wise when finding new things.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on December 12, 2024, 11:11:53 PM

Quote from: nara1892 on December 11, 2024, 10:27:47 PM

Of course, and I think if for example from the beginning we already know about the reason why a streamer always easily makes money or big wins in gambling then I think it is impossible for someone to feel too tempted by the big wins achieved by the streamer which indirectly will also make them avoid various aggressive actions because they already know the truth. Basically, these streamers are just doing their job (although it is full of manipulation) but I am sure that if you were in their position you would also do the same thing by getting money from the offers given by the casino. So in the end the point is that we are the ones who have to be smart and wise in responding to everything we have just found, simply if for example you feel that what you see is unreasonable then don't make a decision right away.

Yes, that is right so we don't take seriously of what we watch from them and consider that they doing their job to attract a weak people who will follow them to playing gambling without thinks to limit their gambling activities. A streamer will be easy to win the money because we thinks that is already set by the casino so those who watch will think that the streamer wins is because they have their luck. People will think that they also have their luck and want to follow the streamer to playing gambling but the reality will not gives the win to them but only give them lose much money. Yes, we must be smart and wise in responding what we see on social media so we can act what is need. We don't have to playing gambling like those streamers because we don't have much money and that can risk us to lose all of the money we have.

Being practical is a wise thing to do when you are watching streamers who's sharing their gambling strategy, knowing that they are doing it for the sake of money that they'll going to earn, though we know that there are avid followers who can get the attention and will blindly follow those strategy we can't remove that possibilities, there are different approach and different perspectives on how they'll take what they are witnessing from streamers that they'll love to follow.

People do follow streamers are prone being caught as they might believe that the video that they are watching might also happen to them, especially those big wins, most people wanted to experienced that and they'll think that if luck permits they may have that same outcome.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 12, 2024, 09:15:33 AM

Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".

The concept of gambling is to promote gambling websites. to attract people to bet on gambling websites that are essentially promoted by streamers. I'm sure streamers use accounts that have been set up by gambling companies to make them look attractive when people watch and get them interested in betting. it's true that streamers promote fun

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Quote from: Hispo on December 12, 2024, 05:26:43 PM

I believe those who are attracted to streamer who gamble are gamblers themselves who have run out of money already and still desire to get some kind of "thrill", so they opt to see someone else playing, it is like when children used to gather around arcade machines to see others to play when they did not have coins left to continue to have fun.

Why would such gambler who wants to get that "thrill" again dont gamble with game money? He will get more involved in the process than just watching. Honestly, kids that used to gather around arcade machine are not the best example. They did that because they dont have alternatives. Now most of kids have their own arcade machine (gaming console), gadgets. Gamblers also have lots of alternatives, such as playing with game money, or downloading game and play unlimited (meaning they need internet connection to gamble with play money on online gambling page).

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Quote from: nara1892 on December 11, 2024, 10:27:47 PM

Of course, and I think if for example from the beginning we already know about the reason why a streamer always easily makes money or big wins in gambling then I think it is impossible for someone to feel too tempted by the big wins achieved by the streamer which indirectly will also make them avoid various aggressive actions because they already know the truth. Basically, these streamers are just doing their job (although it is full of manipulation) but I am sure that if you were in their position you would also do the same thing by getting money from the offers given by the casino. So in the end the point is that we are the ones who have to be smart and wise in responding to everything we have just found, simply if for example you feel that what you see is unreasonable then don't make a decision right away.

Yes, that is right so we don't take seriously of what we watch from them and consider that they doing their job to attract a weak people who will follow them to playing gambling without thinks to limit their gambling activities. A streamer will be easy to win the money because we thinks that is already set by the casino so those who watch will think that the streamer wins is because they have their luck. People will think that they also have their luck and want to follow the streamer to playing gambling but the reality will not gives the win to them but only give them lose much money. Yes, we must be smart and wise in responding what we see on social media so we can act what is need. We don't have to playing gambling like those streamers because we don't have much money and that can risk us to lose all of the money we have.

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Seems this phenomenon is slowly getting out of control right ? in Romania , I can already see youtubers that are around 20 years old and switched from streaming games to streaming slots and other casino games which is pretty sad at this point because most of them are losing a big chuck of their fan base just because they got a great deal with some casinos. What is actually concerning me is that these young streamers who are doing only slot streams are having a fan base where people under 18 years old are also watching.

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Gambling streamers get paid by casinos to advertise so basically they are just trying to make money but this can also be a way of fueling addiction, when people get lured and enticed by those fake wins that are being displayed they might be Tempted to give it a try. I wouldn't really say that they promote fun because it has a lot of negative impacts on people. The most affected people are those that are young, these are the Targeted audience, they are more naive and as a result of this tend to fall for these scams

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 12, 2024, 09:15:33 AM

Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".

You should also keep in mind people watch streamers play videogames because of the charisma of the streamer themselves as well, and not completely because the viewers cannot afford to get a copy of the game. For instance, there are games which are free to play like overwatch, Fortnite and Dota; even games which do not take much of graphical power out of a computer like Among us, the charisma and the personality of the streamer is a very important aspect of the experience when comes to both gaming streaming and also video games streaming, though understand your point when you compare gambling to videogames.
I believe those who are attracted to streamer who gamble are gamblers themselves who have run out of money already and still desire to get some kind of "thrill", so they opt to see someone else playing, it is like when children used to gather around arcade machines to see others to play when they did not have coins left to continue to have fun.
To each they own, though, I am sure of you asked several people who like streaming gambling, they would reply with different reasons they consume such content.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 12, 2024, 11:43:10 AM

Quote from: stomachgrowls on December 05, 2024, 03:35:00 PM

As for bringing up that addiction then we cant deny that it could really be fire up that urge to gamble specially if you've seen these influencers do make huge amount of money at the time that they are playing. You will really be having these thoughts that you can be able to easily do it just the same on the things that they were able to achieve. On the moment that will be trying out to copy them then this will really be causing up that kind of impulsiveness and desperation specially that you are trying out to catch up those wins that they had made out.

Undoubtedly things are moving in that direction, you can say that when a type of people is established that we follow and that are very famous, well, they move masses, if they tell you to do x thing, many will do it, so that is something that sometimes casinos take advantage of, however we as people, as players we must be aware that sometimes things go because of marketing and that marketing is what can lead to that, the addiction streamers, because it happens a lot like you say, the followers of those influencers become very focused on doing things the way they want them and that is what is dangerous.

But even if such a thing is true when talking about gambling in the end it is not that simple because in the end this kind of thing only a small part happens for new players because it cannot be denied that almost all people who do gambling are purely from their own desires not the result of other people's coercion. Although there may be some people who gamble because they are forced by others but in the end it is only a small part of the majority of people who gamble on their own.

Saying they are carried away by others to gamble is just an excuse so that they can gamble but do not want to be considered that they are people who gamble because they do not want the negative stigma attached to them just because they gamble. So that by looking at this, actually the existence of streamers who do live gambling or not is not a reason because more people gamble based on their own desires.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 11, 2024, 11:06:52 PM

Well, they really care about their audience, and you know how these streamers care for their audiences. By giving away some money for those who registered under their referral link. Cheesy

Funny, right? That's what I see in most of the streamers currently, but in general, that's their way of showing their care for them.

What I said is a sarcastic one because at the end of the day, rewarding your audience isn't enough for a person that got addicted because you as a streamer introduced online gambling to him/her. I've seen posts on Reddit regarding a person who got addicted to gambling just because the influencer that he idolizes streamed online gambling on his Facebook page, and since he idolizes that streamer, he registered on his referral link, gambled, and lost everything.

As for the fact that they're doing it because they need to earn as well, it might be true, but you can't change the fact that these streamers are partly the reason why there are many gamblers that are getting addicted into online gambling. There are some of their followers that can easily attracted to easy money hence, they'll gamble. Can't blame though because it's their decision. Still, these streamers are partly to blame why there are gamblers that are miserable right now.

That's true, now that you have said that. You made me remember how they're so active telling people to register under their link, they get commission and at the same time they're also getting a tracking link on how effective they are as an advertiser or ambassador of that casino.

Quote from: Dewi Aries on December 12, 2024, 08:20:28 AM

Basically in any case being wise and rational is always recommended to anyone in any situation, because that way you will be able to judge or know whether what you see is realistic or unreasonable, and also by thinking wisely and rationally then you will also feel that there seems to be something strange or suspicious, I'm sure you will have such thoughts if only you are able to apply a rational and wise mindset every time you find something new.

On the other hand, it is a fact that there is no coercion at all from any party, especially from streamers to follow the activities they do, in the end of course it comes back to each of us and above I have said about how to behave properly in finding everything new that you see, because that way it should be less likely for you to feel tempted by anything that feels unreasonable.

I agree.

With the streams that I have seen, most of them are unreal. They're just putting some hype on the casino they advertise and that's what they want to show to their audience.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on December 05, 2024, 03:35:00 PM

As for bringing up that addiction then we cant deny that it could really be fire up that urge to gamble specially if you've seen these influencers do make huge amount of money at the time that they are playing. You will really be having these thoughts that you can be able to easily do it just the same on the things that they were able to achieve. On the moment that will be trying out to copy them then this will really be causing up that kind of impulsiveness and desperation specially that you are trying out to catch up those wins that they had made out.

Undoubtedly things are moving in that direction, you can say that when a type of people is established that we follow and that are very famous, well, they move masses, if they tell you to do x thing, many will do it, so that is something that sometimes casinos take advantage of, however we as people, as players we must be aware that sometimes things go because of marketing and that marketing is what can lead to that, the addiction streamers, because it happens a lot like you say, the followers of those influencers become very focused on doing things the way they want them and that is what is dangerous.

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Quote from: D ltr on October 22, 2024, 06:27:12 AM

In my opinion, this behavior can trigger addiction in novice players where they are hypnotized to have luck like their role models in gambling,

Yes it can, but on the other hand, showing main characters drinking alcohol in movies can trigger addiction to alcohol too, and watching how people eat delicious cakes can dangerous for those overweight. Should we ban alcohol drinking and delicious food eating in movies? I don't think so.

Quote from: D ltr on October 22, 2024, 06:27:12 AM

maybe this is for those who can already control themselves from gambling just to find new tricks in playing

If you wrote that intentionally and not to just increase your character count for your sig campaign, I would argue with that. What "tricks"? In purely luck-based games there can be no tricks.

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Who is watching those streamers anyway? I know that people watch videogames streams, because they cant afford to buy a game, or their PC cant run it, or they dont have a device for gaming at all. Those people watch videogames streams because they are interested in gameplay, plot, graphics. From gambling streams people cant get much. Streamer wont show gambling strategy with 100% win rate, if he wins, a person who watches gets nothing, gambling gameplay isnt most exciting thing to watch. What left is streamers charisma. Streamers charm is why people watch gambling streams imho. That is why I would answer "promoting fun".

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Quote from: kotajikikox on December 12, 2024, 01:16:02 AM

Quote from: bubilas on December 12, 2024, 12:52:05 AM

I recently wondered why people are only interested in watching these streamers? And I realized that, in fact, when we watch him, then before our eyes this person's life can change because of the jackpot. And this is interesting, because especially if we know that this guy has a hard life now, then we will subconsciously make him win.

All streamers are in one way or another fabricating something. Maybe it just differs by to what extent they lie about but they can only manipulate what they show us. Why do people still watch these streamers? Maybe they find it entertaining or maybe they are just trying to get some ideas about the platform or specific game the streamer is trying.

If you want to watch these streamers, take everything they say with a grain of salt but it can still give you some vague idea about whatever it is you want to learn about by watching other people try it.

There are several things that can happen, including those who are entertained or those who are looking for references to gambling sites because the purpose of streamers who gamble is none other than to attract more people to watch it, for those who do find references to gambling sites, they are the group of people who will be interested when the streamer manages to show the victory he got, with the alibi of the strategy he has, making them want to try gambling on the promoted site. In addition, something that streamers can do is manipulate their winnings, the aim is to attract many people to believe that the site promoted by the streamer is indeed easy to give victory to its players, and for those who are thirsty for victory will believe this so they are likely to be interested in gambling.

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Quote from: jossiel on December 11, 2024, 06:27:57 PM

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But I'm sure that's just a few of them and the number can probably still be counted, more of them actually show everything that is tempting to the audience and their goal is only one, which is so that the audience does not hesitate to get involved and register there. We agree here, because after all, we often see people who are even willing to do anything just to get money, meaning it's very small for someone to miss such a good opportunity. So the point is, I think it all comes back to each of us, I hope that all of us, especially people who accidentally or intentionally watch shows from streamers, can always see everything we find from various sides and consider it first before making a decision, the solution in my opinion is only one, namely by being rational and wise when finding something new that we see, it is useful to keep us from making careless decisions.

That is probably the case and the solution.

It's true that we need to be wise if ever we find some streamers out there and trying to entice every viewer that they have telling to gamble on this specific sponsored casino of theirs.

But that doesn't mean that we have to unless you're a truly fan of that streamer, we're not in obligation to follow everything they say. If that guy is enjoyable to watch, just live it there as that.

Basically in any case being wise and rational is always recommended to anyone in any situation, because that way you will be able to judge or know whether what you see is realistic or unreasonable, and also by thinking wisely and rationally then you will also feel that there seems to be something strange or suspicious, I'm sure you will have such thoughts if only you are able to apply a rational and wise mindset every time you find something new.

On the other hand, it is a fact that there is no coercion at all from any party, especially from streamers to follow the activities they do, in the end of course it comes back to each of us and above I have said about how to behave properly in finding everything new that you see, because that way it should be less likely for you to feel tempted by anything that feels unreasonable.

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Quote from: Reid on November 20, 2024, 04:10:08 AM

I am not one to judge these streamers because I think they are just looking for jobs. Be it a fuel of gambling addiction or just promoting fun. I do believe that in their mind they are just promoting the online casino but there will always be those who will abuse the fun and try to make a living out of gambling which leads to addiction.
I don't think that is their fault anymore. It's on us if we become gambling addicts, we forgot to be responsible with what we do, that's why.

If someone gets addicted to gambling then he has to take the responsibility because when you win money you don't share it with someone. No one is forcing me to gamble and I am doing it of my own free will. Because most people depend on gambling money for their livelihood. Most of the addicted gamblers in my area are in their age 40-50. That means they have been gambling for the past few years so even today he is addicted. And some rich people are gambling in front of everyone and enjoying themselves. It is really personal freedom that anyone who has money can do anything.

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Quote from: KennyR on December 09, 2024, 05:42:03 PM

Why people get into gambling. They believe it is an easy way to make money. When they weren't able to achieve it, they looked for different sources available around them. This is how many people start watching the streamers. For the streamers, it is like a profession. We can't blame them. We need to understand the reality and make decisions on our gameplay. Even I've tried different tricks following streamers. At the beginning I don't have the proper understanding. Later only realised and started to do it on my own, as luck is the only deciding factor of our winning.

Desperate to find ways to have some advantage, a kind of mindset that most gamblers have in mind. Thinking that with the help of those streamers they will be able to take some knowledge and will give them some opportunity to win, but the fact remains those casino owners are willing to pay someone to bring traffics and referrals to add more potential clients that will going to lose their money while playing using the platform.

You need to keep in mind that streamers are just doing their job and they are more into the money side and they don't care about anyone as long as they are being paid and they are cashing out thier fair shares.

True, and even if they are losing in their streams, they still get paid by the casino owner, so it's still a win-win for them. Unlike us who only sees the shallow part of their streaming, and just easily believe that gambling could be the answer of our financial struggles. That's when we bet, we always want to give our best shot in order to make huge returns as well, but that is not how gambling works. The edge remains in the house, while we consistently lose and used up our hard-earned money.

Unfortunately gamblers don't see that picture and they use to believe that same with the results that they've got streamers are also losing but behind that streamers still gaining from the house that they are promoting, even how true the game and the outcome behind it is the fact that streamers are earning money from the service that they are providing for the casino site, and with that, casinos are willing to provide that benefits as they also gaining, a win-win situation for both the owners and the streamers which really give this industry a life-line to continue and to earn decently.

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