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Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

If a streamer show you a way to play and earn and you later try it out and then you win nothing, then I don't think it's worth following again. In my opinion, there are platforms that you will see that you don't need a soothsayer to tells you it's a lie, most often gambling streamers are more like influencers to me than people who show you how things work, you are likely to click their links many times than the money you are going to make from the things they show.

Fueling addiction can be true but that's for people who believe in the streamers, nobody can influence anyone unless they are ready to do it. The people we thought are been influenced already have their mind program for it, they are just waiting for the opportunity and gambling streamers are just one of the ways to quick gambling addiction.
The thing i dont like with some streamers is that they do trying out to tell that there's some guarantee on winning on which tons of people getting fooled because of such claim and really that believe that this could really be something that will happen on the moment that they will really be playing on which this is really that a bad decision to make. Whenever you are really that dealing up with gambling then there's no one into this world would really be able to alter out their luck and able to win up specially that most of these streamers are really that focusing into streaming slot games.

You cant be able to see streamers that they will really be trying out to stream those sports betting picks or what but rather you do mostly see them on getting involved with slots and other casino games on which
the results are fast paced or simply instant. As part of marketing then of course they will really be making things as hyped as possible to hook up potential players on which they could successfully make someone to
register and made out deposits into that advertised company or platform.

They are really indeed fueling someones addiction but come to think that this is what their primary motive or job is to make out some exposure and trying to hook up people as much as they could.
They are the ones will really be that trying to give out that exposure and at the same time they are getting paid of it.
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Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

If a streamer show you a way to play and earn and you later try it out and then you win nothing, then I don't think it's worth following again. In my opinion, there are platforms that you will see that you don't need a soothsayer to tells you it's a lie, most often gambling streamers are more like influencers to me than people who show you how things work, you are likely to click their links many times than the money you are going to make from the things they show.

Fueling addiction can be true but that's for people who believe in the streamers, nobody can influence anyone unless they are ready to do it. The people we thought are been influenced already have their mind program for it, they are just waiting for the opportunity and gambling streamers are just one of the ways to quick gambling addiction.
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That is a other point I have noticed about gambling streamers and their usual activity in streaming platforms like Kick and previously Twitch... Why always go for slots when there are so many kinds of gambling games they could go for, like blackjack, mines or Plinko, many of them also have a provably fair versión (Stake original games is a good example of it). My theory is that once they get a partnership with some casino they are encouraged to wager as much as possible in games which typically resolve in matter of seconds (like slots) instead going for games which take a couple of minutes and have more of an strategy element to them (being blackjack a good example of it). Since their partnership depends on the amount wagered, it is more convenient for them to go with slots.
Of course, that is just a personal theory I have, it be possible they just prefer to play slots in front of their virtual audience since it is by far more popular among gamblers than poker of blackjack, who knows...
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but it was known that a large part of his audience are teenagers and I think that is highly problematic.
That is the point we most talked about here how the social media influencers are promoting teenagers in to gambling too soon, undoubtedly the Internet is a public place that can be very accessable by any one but however, parents has a major role of given enough guidance as to this regards to let their under age get proper awareness and the risks involvement when it comes to gambling since if they under age could get the best of this gambling risk campaign on time surely they will do apparently very well when they grow up.
By tempting teenagers to try to have fun in gambling, they will difficult to avoids that especially if they see the streamers wins a huge money in the games. The streamers can show their video winning big money in slot so when teenagers see about that, they will thinks that they can get the same things. With the development of the internet and availability in many places makes teenagers can access an online gambling easily. They can playing gambling because of seeing the tempting gambling video and their curiosity will makes them try to playing gambling. In the first time, they may win some money so that can makes them lure to come back in the next days. But the scenario will not the same as what they imagine because in the next days, they will start lose or break even when playing gambling and makes their curiosity becomes bigger.

Unfortunately, teenagers often see the world differently than we, adults. They are full of naivety and maximalism. They want everything at once, and of course, this is immediately punished by the rules of the harsh adult world. Teenagers are ready to believe in fairy tales about quick money, but in reality, if no one warns them, they will be deceived. Gambling does not like the naive.
Most teenagers failed in gambling because of lack of experience and the curiosity to make fast profits from gambling.
The well experienced gamblers know that it's not everytime winnings come to them and they are always prepared for the time when things might not go as planned. Teenagers will always been influenced by streamers and would want to have similar results on what they are seeing without knowing that Many of these influencers are paid promoters of the gambling sites they are promoting online faking most of the winnings.
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I think gambling streamers are promoted to urge everyone to join in the worst kind of gambling, constantly spinning slots that are not provably fair with huge amounts of money.

Honestly slots aren't worth it at all for so many people because the minimum wager is like 0.2$ but you have to wager hundreds if not thousands of times to win anything significant, in the meantime you have lost more most of the times.

These are some dark pattern type of behaviours really. So I'd say if you want to get an idea of what gambling fun is, avoid streamers.
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But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

We will never know the real truth until there is someone who can prove it or maybe until the streamer tell about it publicly.
What I know is that usually streamers use money (real money) credited by the casino but there must be a deal behind it.
The most important thing for me is that I dont really care whether they are playing with fake or real money because I take them as entertaiment only.
What viewers need to have in their mind is that they should not be attracted to do the same thing as what they watch in the stream.
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A younger brother in my area sold his smartphone to play this game. His plan was that he would sell his current phone and use that money to gamble and make a profit and use that money to buy more advanced mobiles. He loses his entire money as soon as he enters gambling. If he knew what gambling was, he would not have taken such a step. Here I must blame the government of my country, in countries where gambling is banned, no action is taken against them even though they advertise gambling openly.
I don't believe if your government advertise gambling openly when your country ban gambling.

I'm sure it's come from other ways, let's say social medias, instead of seeing gambling ads, you see someone live stream gambling or people are posting the casinos in comments even though it's off topic.

Or they promote it through porn sites.
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but it was known that a large part of his audience are teenagers and I think that is highly problematic.
That is the point we most talked about here how the social media influencers are promoting teenagers in to gambling too soon, undoubtedly the Internet is a public place that can be very accessable by any one but however, parents has a major role of given enough guidance as to this regards to let their under age get proper awareness and the risks involvement when it comes to gambling since if they under age could get the best of this gambling risk campaign on time surely they will do apparently very well when they grow up.
By tempting teenagers to try to have fun in gambling, they will difficult to avoids that especially if they see the streamers wins a huge money in the games. The streamers can show their video winning big money in slot so when teenagers see about that, they will thinks that they can get the same things. With the development of the internet and availability in many places makes teenagers can access an online gambling easily. They can playing gambling because of seeing the tempting gambling video and their curiosity will makes them try to playing gambling. In the first time, they may win some money so that can makes them lure to come back in the next days. But the scenario will not the same as what they imagine because in the next days, they will start lose or break even when playing gambling and makes their curiosity becomes bigger.

Unfortunately, teenagers often see the world differently than we, adults. They are full of naivety and maximalism. They want everything at once, and of course, this is immediately punished by the rules of the harsh adult world. Teenagers are ready to believe in fairy tales about quick money, but in reality, if no one warns them, they will be deceived. Gambling does not like the naive.
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I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

I have a topic about my experience in streaming gambling and I didn’t hide anything about the truth that I get a free balance not from my deposits and my salary is paid upon the hours of daily streaming away from the result of my session.
When it comes to most streamers today who are live playing gambling games and slots, poker, and on social media, I get why people question the authenticity of what they’re seeing. Here in the Philippines, big social media personalities have started streaming these games even if gambling wasn’t something they were into before. For a lot of them it’s clearly for promotionals.

Now, we have the talk around testers or fake accounts with a balance set up just for streaming? That’s not hard to believe. Some casinos offer this setup to keep streams entertaining without risk to the streamer and while I can’t say if everyone does it, which wouldn’t surprise me. Unfortunately for the audience it’s tough to know if what they are seeing is real money or staged.

Then there is the issue with viewers, especially younger ones. Many of these streamers have young followers who might be drawn into gambling by what they see online. This kind of exposure is definitely questionable. It’s esay for the thrill of the game and the potential for big wins to catch their attention without fully understanding the risks.

So, for me I think transparency is key. Streamers who don’t make it clear when they are using promotional balances or who are not mindful of their audience could be setting a dangerous example. Streaming responsibly means being upfront with viewers and respecting the influence they have especially on younger followers.
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By tempting teenagers to try to have fun in gambling, they will difficult to avoids that especially if they see the streamers wins a huge money in the games. The streamers can show their video winning big money in slot so when teenagers see about that, they will thinks that they can get the same things. With the development of the internet and availability in many places makes teenagers can access an online gambling easily. They can playing gambling because of seeing the tempting gambling video and their curiosity will makes them try to playing gambling. In the first time, they may win some money so that can makes them lure to come back in the next days. But the scenario will not the same as what they imagine because in the next days, they will start lose or break even when playing gambling and makes their curiosity becomes bigger.

Gambling has already spread among teenagers in many countries due to Steamer or various reasons, even many have become addicted to gambling. If I talk about my area, there are many people who gamble in my area and not less number of teenagers. They get into gambling by watching adults or by looking at advertisements of various celebrities online. They don't even know how to gamble or what gambling is? But greed for money emerges in them. Taking advantage of this lure, gambling establishments advertise with celebrities to show that gambling at their establishments will make them rich.

A younger brother in my area sold his smartphone to play this game. His plan was that he would sell his current phone and use that money to gamble and make a profit and use that money to buy more advanced mobiles. He loses his entire money as soon as he enters gambling. If he knew what gambling was, he would not have taken such a step. Here I must blame the government of my country, in countries where gambling is banned, no action is taken against them even though they advertise gambling openly.
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but it was known that a large part of his audience are teenagers and I think that is highly problematic.
That is the point we most talked about here how the social media influencers are promoting teenagers in to gambling too soon, undoubtedly the Internet is a public place that can be very accessable by any one but however, parents has a major role of given enough guidance as to this regards to let their under age get proper awareness and the risks involvement when it comes to gambling since if they under age could get the best of this gambling risk campaign on time surely they will do apparently very well when they grow up.
By tempting teenagers to try to have fun in gambling, they will difficult to avoids that especially if they see the streamers wins a huge money in the games. The streamers can show their video winning big money in slot so when teenagers see about that, they will thinks that they can get the same things. With the development of the internet and availability in many places makes teenagers can access an online gambling easily. They can playing gambling because of seeing the tempting gambling video and their curiosity will makes them try to playing gambling. In the first time, they may win some money so that can makes them lure to come back in the next days. But the scenario will not the same as what they imagine because in the next days, they will start lose or break even when playing gambling and makes their curiosity becomes bigger.
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But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
Starting from the title, Yes they are promoting fun if you position your mind that way and enjoy it while it lasts, but No, they are not promoting addiction, it is left to you if you allow yourself to be addicted to it.

However, I will never be a party to betting the streamer's games judging by the bad experiences of people, we should be wise. The fact that they are not forcing anyone to bet is a freedom on its own. Still, if you now bet for a while with no good result, why not quit? It's as simple as that.
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The problem is often times the age of the average audience of those streamers. There was one case in Germany where the biggest streamer began to promote casinos, but it was known that a large part of his audience are teenagers and I think that is highly problematic. If then the streamer is winning all the time, I think it is not the best exposure teenagers can have. It fakes what the real world looks like and has significant influence on their first impressions. Because these streamers drive a Lamborghini in real life, boast with how much money they have and then stream gambling that the mix of these things can leave the younger audience with a wrong idea about money.

That is the point we most talked about here how the social media influencers are promoting teenagers in to gambling too soon, undoubtedly the Internet is a public place that can be very accessable by any one but however, parents has a major role of given enough guidance as to this regards to let their under age get proper awareness and the risks involvement when it comes to gambling since if they under age could get the best of this gambling risk campaign on time surely they will do apparently very well when they grow up.
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According to the title of this post , Gambling streamers Are literally fueling addiction. Because they most time make people to picture gambling as something they can use to make money easily and quick too . Because most time they usually showcase their wins than their losses which will lure most folks to gambling, and not just that , but will lead them to the wrong approach to gambling.

And mean while then streamers main aim is for them to get more reaction in their post they don't give a damn about their followers, all they care about is what they will gain.
Hiring streamers is currently one of the solutions for casinos to promote their sites in order to get a lot of interest, streamers tend to highlight their winnings and we all often don't realize that the winnings have actually been arranged as naturally as possible by the casino, so that makes us interested in trying it, I think what the streamers are showing is just misleading winnings by giving an unrealistic picture of Gambling so far, so that with what the streamer continues to show, it can actually trigger addiction, because for their who don't think realistically, of course they will be easy to tempted and will try their luck for hope to get a big win like the streamer gets.
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Some say the streamer is part of the casino affiliate where they will be paid according to the percentage agreement, maybe this is just a guess but some streamers I believe they are paid by the casino to promote it.

Because some say the account is from the casino directly including the balance, you also said so so we believe both, but as we know there is still no one who publishes someone who is a streamer how their income, whether from the casino with the winnings or from the affiliate how many new customers join.
I think casino streamers will not make and earn their money in the same place. Maybe there will be some of them who will continue to gamble regularly but will not make money from winnings like when they make streaming videos. Maybe there will be some agreements with casinos regarding the use of streamer accounts. However, winning quite easily and getting big multipliers will not be as easy as advertised by streamers. This has been a topic among some gamblers. That streamers will only get profit from casinos, not lose money there. Either from affiliates or separate value agreements from casinos and streamers.

As the title says, for me it's the same thing that streamers do every time they do their live. They do that together, and of course, when the viewers see that he is winning in the video that he shows, the other viewers will be encouraged to deposit because they will think that it is just that easy to do because of what they see in the live stream that the streamers are doing.

But the only people who do this are those who are influenced by streamers, but people who don't really have a passion for gambling will ignore it, especially gamblers who are not
addicted to gambling.
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According to the title of this post , Gambling streamers Are literally fueling addiction. Because they most time make people to picture gambling as something they can use to make money easily and quick too . Because most time they usually showcase their wins than their losses which will lure most folks to gambling, and not just that , but will lead them to the wrong approach to gambling.

And mean while then streamers main aim is for them to get more reaction in their post they don't give a damn about their followers, all they care about is what they will gain.
Not all streamers are like this. There are many famous influencers here in our country who made a transition from streaming online games to streaming gambling already.

I've watched many of them and despite of them indirectly promoting the casino, the truth is, we have the final decision on whether we will gamble on the site that they're playing as well or not. They can stream, they can play, they can gamble anytime they want, but we can decide whether we gamble as well like them or not. Gambling streamers fueling addiction? I can watch multiple gambling streamers all day and congratulate them if they win a huge sum of money, but I will not gamble just like them and it's because I don't have the money to do it and I don't want to get addicted.

Streamers gain, but streamers are losing money as well. Yes, there might be some who don't care about their followers, but not all of them are portraying gambling like "You need to gamble on this site if you want to be rich." At the end of the day, it's our decision if we will gamble or not. We can watch them, but it's up to us. At the same time, a person that isn't watching them at all can just gamble if he wants to.
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According to the title of this post , Gambling streamers Are literally fueling addiction.

That wasn’t in the title; it was a question.

But regardless, these promoters don’t care if their followers become addicted to gambling. They’re just out to make money from the affiliate bonuses they receive. You can’t really blame them since they’re simply promoting the gambling site. When a user signs up, it’s clearly stated in the TOS that they must be of mature age to gamble. So whether addiction happens or not, it’s not the streamer’s fault - the responsibility lies with the gamblers themselves.
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Of course they can give such advice and direction to their viewers but the problem is that most of the streamers do not do that, the reason is clear as I said above that when a streamer explains the negative side of gambling and also advises gamblers to gamble with little money then it is the same as them minimizing the amount of bonus they will get from the casino for the agreement they have made, because of course the number of viewers who are interested will be less when they know that gambling can really have a bad impact on life.

Everyone always likes money and that is why streamers tend to do more tempting shows that indirectly brainwash the audience so that they can join without considering anything.
The streamer will not do that because that can impacts to their revenue because they will see many people will not follows the streamer to playing gambling. The streamers wants to get much bonuses from what they do so they will lure many people to follows them to gambling.
They have a target from gambling so they will make sure that many people will playing gambling from using their link. It is why we must be careful when watch the streamers playing gambling.
We must know that gambling can gives a bad impact on life if we lose control.

Yes, as I have said before, my friend, it is impossible for a streamer to explain the negative impacts that can be caused by gambling because in any case it is contrary to their goal of getting more people to be tempted and interested in entering funds to register which can indirectly reduce their income in terms of commission.

On the other hand, the point is not to be easily tempted by everything that looks tempting, you can think like that if you have considered and come to the conclusion that everything that is shown makes sense, but if not and you do not find a reasonable reason why streamers can get a large amount of money with just a little effort then it is better to avoid it, and the only way for us not to get caught in their trap in my opinion is to think rationally when you find everything you just saw.
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According to the title of this post , Gambling streamers Are literally fueling addiction. Because they most time make people to picture gambling as something they can use to make money easily and quick too . Because most time they usually showcase their wins than their losses which will lure most folks to gambling, and not just that , but will lead them to the wrong approach to gambling.

And mean while then streamers main aim is for them to get more reaction in their post they don't give a damn about their followers, all they care about is what they will gain.
That is the goal of casinos and streamers, because with what they do, of course they will find many people interested in gambling at the promoted casino thinking that winning at the casino is easy to get, when in fact it is the opposite. Now many casinos are operating and of course they do this to develop their own casinos, and the funny thing is that I think many people are already aware of this but they still look for wins at different casinos. Of course, streamers will not care what will happen to their players who have visited and played at the promoted casino, even though the player complains or protests often, it will not make the streamer provide a definite way out, with the fact that winning is difficult to happen, they will probably only provide a way to get a win, but the main goal is to continue to make the player go deeper into gambling.
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It's no doubt that these streamers fuel addiction due to the fact that they always make it seem like winning is very easy... checked out a streamers bets few months back and he was having constant wins, it was obvious that he either made use of a demo account or the casino probably made an arrangement with him just for the sake of promoting their site..This fuels the addiction of people and they might end up losing money in These games constantly... everyone has the right to advertise whatever they like it's your responsibility not to get enticed by those adverts.
here the position is that they create the illusion of victories and luck and those who watch these streams can easily fall into this trap because the streamer shows only one side of this coin. Of course, when it comes to business, there are no special moral components, especially for streamers who are ready to advertise anything and anytime, as long as they get paid well for it. The competition is high and they understand perfectly well that if they don’t advertise the casino, someone else will.

Great point, and that imagination brings hope to those people who are hoping to experienced that same outcome, but unfortunately instead of earning or winning most of them will just fall into addiction where the casino will earned most of the favor, it brings engagements and participation from people who supposedly not trying it, but because of being fanatics and being involved to the fan base of those streamers they'll catch the interest and become a victims.
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