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Topic: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread - page 219. (Read 597505 times)

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Yeah, I figured running it at all is a security risk.  I was using my test rig. 


Once you run it as administrator keeping it in the user profile directory isn't going to protect you from an application.
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Once you run it as administrator keeping it in the user profile directory isn't going to protect you from an application.
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I get it.  But I don't know enough to audit the code myself, and I'm leery about installing it outside of the user profile.  


It doesn't really make sense to lay it at the feet of Gridcoin when you haven't even tried the defaults yet.

True, it's in active development, but if you don't try you don't get results.
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Yowza. The hash rate just dropped by 10MH and the difficulty plummeted.
A good time for block hunting.

Difficulty:   2.418496
Blocks:   50476
NetworkHashPs:   93396688.00000
Updated:   1/18/2014 9:13:21 PM
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It doesn't really make sense to lay it at the feet of Gridcoin when you haven't even tried the defaults yet.

True, it's in active development, but if you don't try you don't get results.
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I remain very interested in Gridcoin, but I run miners to make money, so I'm going to let the software go another couple of revisions before I invest any more time in this.  


Try installing Gridcoin and Boinc into c:\Program Files folder. There may be some permission issues for folders.

I'm running it as admin.  It is installed into the /Username/Documents/Gridcoin  folder.  BOINC is also installed to the documents folder in /BOINCprogram   and /BOINCdata.

Gridcoin.conf has been modded to reflect this.



I think I had that once, but once I ran it as admin it seemed to work. What dir did you install Gridcoin in?

So really, the GRC software is completely separate from BOINC? 
This is just a scryptcoin distro that looks for a running instance of BOINC, and then hands out rewards based on BOINC utilization?

I'm not a developer, but this seems like it would be awfully easy to hack.  How is the proof of work verified?

Not trying to be antagonistic, but I think GRC is about to increase in popularity, and with that, flaws will be exploited.  It seems like a natural step in the evolution of GRC would be for BOINC to be handled at the pool server, with each connected miner appearing as a device in BOINC.

Miners would simply point their mining client at the pool, same as they would with any other scrypt coin.  This would require the pool server software to break up and parse out BOINC work units to the individual miners.  I'm sure this is no small task, but it probably needs to happen if GRC is to succeed.
Boinc credits are 3rd party API verified.  There is a 5000grc reward to hack it.  Have at it.


Maybe I'll have at it, when I can get it working in the first place.  No one has answered my previous posts about being unable to open the mining console.


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New Version Available: 7.74/1.1.5.5: Upgrade from the RPC :  Yes

*  CPU Mining is enabled in this version with up to 150grc payout per cpu-only miner per day.

Best Regards,
Grid

Does it make sense to CPU mine with a weak CPU (Core i3) ? How many GRC can I expect to earn at this stage, approximately?
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I moved it to 1000 but its running only at 750. I don't k know why. Work size 256 doesnt help.
The cards are: 2x r9-290 from gigabyte
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did you try work size 256? I suggested that in one of my previous posts. Why is gpu2 running @ 750?

GPU1: 75 degree, 840kh
GPU2: 84 degree 670kh

I'm not having a VGA or HDMI connected with the GPU2.
According to  the program open monitor GPU2 is running only at core clock 750. GPU1 runs at 1000.  (Both actually overclocked to 1000 with afterburner. ) The system has 8GB but open Monitor tells me it uses only 2GB.

Settings for both: thread concurrency: 24550, work size: 512, intensity: 20, vektor: 1
Both running with the guiminer scrypt => cgminer

Could anybody help me to run them with the same speed of nearly 840.
Thank you so much
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GPU1: 75 degree, 840kh
GPU2: 84 degree 670kh

I'm not having a VGA or HDMI connected with the GPU2.
According to  the program open monitor GPU2 is running only at core clock 750. GPU1 runs at 1000.  (Both actually overclocked to 1000 with afterburner. ) The system has 8GB but open Monitor tells me it uses only 2GB.

Settings for both: thread concurrency: 24550, work size: 512, intensity: 20, vektor: 1
Both running with the guiminer scrypt => cgminer

Could anybody help me to run them with the same speed of nearly 840.
Thank you so much
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New Version Available: 7.74/1.1.5.5: Upgrade from the RPC :  Yes

*  CPU Mining is enabled in this version with up to 150 grc payout per CPU-only miner per day.

Best Regards,
Grid


So how does CPU mining work? I thought the CPU power goes to the Boinc software running in the background?
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I have been running all my stuff in Win7 and so far no problems. I have never used win8 so no idea what the situation is there.

sorry for confusion. meant xp as in experience. that's the gamer in me.  i am running win 8.1 64 bit. i have not tried going back to win 7.

I run my stuff on Win7 64bit, so I do not know how things will behave on XP. Xp is very old so there might be some kind of comparability issues that may be causing such behavior. I suggest you get win 7, you will not have any problems.

I can tell at least in my xp, i have run at 13 i and 8192 tc and still have the issue.  both gpu hang around mid 70c

What intensity and concurrent threads are you running? Also what is the temp of the gpu under load?

I had an issue with scrypt mining on one of the rigs that had 3 7950. I had 4 gig ram and once I upgraded to 6 all gpu were running full speed. I am not sure if that is the same issue as you are having. You can try and it and see if it works.

How much ram does the system have?

Question: I'm hashing with two R9-290 with the guiminer scrypt. The first one (connected with monitor) reaches 840 khs the second without connection to a monitor got only 660 khs. Is that normal?
I'm using the same guiminer settings for both GPU's. Installed catalyst and and SDK only before using the first card. Used to second card just today.

8GB

I see this as well but i am running two 280x with gpu capping at 550 khs while gpu 1 can almost do 700 khs on GRC.  changing intensity seems to make it worse. I have 8 gb ram installed.  i am wondering if gp0 is hindered by windows. i am not a linux guru so all my xp in mining has been windows.  also, i am a newb.
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I just noticed Gridcoin is writing HUGE debug log files in the Appdata Roaming Gridcoin directory. For example: debug.log which might be a backup is 4,505 KB and debug2.log which is being added to in real time is now 2,328,818 KB - over 2.3 gig and growing. I don't think I've ever turned on logging when running Gridcoin.

Also, I notice that recent versions have added a line to gridcoin.conf that says UpdatingLeaderboard=false which might explain why the leaderboard screens show nothing on my system for the last few days. My old backup gridcoin.conf files don't have that line and I'm pretty sure I did not insert it manually, but my head is spinning with all the changes.           Smiley

Is this stuff normal? It seems odd to me.

Edit: Details - current version v1.1.5.5-g71-prod, obtained from the msi, installed less than an hour ago, running on Win7 64.





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sorry for confusion. meant xp as in experience. that's the gamer in me.  i am running win 8.1 64 bit. i have not tried going back to win 7.

I run my stuff on Win7 64bit, so I do not know how things will behave on XP. Xp is very old so there might be some kind of comparability issues that may be causing such behavior. I suggest you get win 7, you will not have any problems.

I can tell at least in my xp, i have run at 13 i and 8192 tc and still have the issue.  both gpu hang around mid 70c

What intensity and concurrent threads are you running? Also what is the temp of the gpu under load?

I had an issue with scrypt mining on one of the rigs that had 3 7950. I had 4 gig ram and once I upgraded to 6 all gpu were running full speed. I am not sure if that is the same issue as you are having. You can try and it and see if it works.

How much ram does the system have?

Question: I'm hashing with two R9-290 with the guiminer scrypt. The first one (connected with monitor) reaches 840 khs the second without connection to a monitor got only 660 khs. Is that normal?
I'm using the same guiminer settings for both GPU's. Installed catalyst and and SDK only before using the first card. Used to second card just today.

8GB

I see this as well but i am running two 280x with gpu capping at 550 khs while gpu 1 can almost do 700 khs on GRC.  changing intensity seems to make it worse. I have 8 gb ram installed.  i am wondering if gp0 is hindered by windows. i am not a linux guru so all my xp in mining has been windows.  also, i am a newb.
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Try installing Gridcoin and Boinc into c:\Program Files folder. There may be some permission issues for folders.

I'm running it as admin.  It is installed into the /Username/Documents/Gridcoin  folder.  BOINC is also installed to the documents folder in /BOINCprogram   and /BOINCdata.

Gridcoin.conf has been modded to reflect this.



I think I had that once, but once I ran it as admin it seemed to work. What dir did you install Gridcoin in?

So really, the GRC software is completely separate from BOINC? 
This is just a scryptcoin distro that looks for a running instance of BOINC, and then hands out rewards based on BOINC utilization?

I'm not a developer, but this seems like it would be awfully easy to hack.  How is the proof of work verified?

Not trying to be antagonistic, but I think GRC is about to increase in popularity, and with that, flaws will be exploited.  It seems like a natural step in the evolution of GRC would be for BOINC to be handled at the pool server, with each connected miner appearing as a device in BOINC.

Miners would simply point their mining client at the pool, same as they would with any other scrypt coin.  This would require the pool server software to break up and parse out BOINC work units to the individual miners.  I'm sure this is no small task, but it probably needs to happen if GRC is to succeed.
Boinc credits are 3rd party API verified.  There is a 5000grc reward to hack it.  Have at it.


Maybe I'll have at it, when I can get it working in the first place.  No one has answered my previous posts about being unable to open the mining console.


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I run my stuff on Win7 64bit, so I do not know how things will behave on XP. Xp is very old so there might be some kind of comparability issues that may be causing such behavior. I suggest you get win 7, you will not have any problems.

I can tell at least in my xp, i have run at 13 i and 8192 tc and still have the issue.  both gpu hang around mid 70c

What intensity and concurrent threads are you running? Also what is the temp of the gpu under load?

I had an issue with scrypt mining on one of the rigs that had 3 7950. I had 4 gig ram and once I upgraded to 6 all gpu were running full speed. I am not sure if that is the same issue as you are having. You can try and it and see if it works.

How much ram does the system have?

Question: I'm hashing with two R9-290 with the guiminer scrypt. The first one (connected with monitor) reaches 840 khs the second without connection to a monitor got only 660 khs. Is that normal?
I'm using the same guiminer settings for both GPU's. Installed catalyst and and SDK only before using the first card. Used to second card just today.

8GB

I see this as well but i am running two 280x with gpu capping at 550 khs while gpu 1 can almost do 700 khs on GRC.  changing intensity seems to make it worse. I have 8 gb ram installed.  i am wondering if gp0 is hindered by windows. i am not a linux guru so all my xp in mining has been windows.  also, i am a newb.
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I'm running it as admin.  It is installed into the /Username/Documents/Gridcoin  folder.  BOINC is also installed to the documents folder in /BOINCprogram   and /BOINCdata.

Gridcoin.conf has been modded to reflect this.



I think I had that once, but once I ran it as admin it seemed to work. What dir did you install Gridcoin in?

So really, the GRC software is completely separate from BOINC? 
This is just a scryptcoin distro that looks for a running instance of BOINC, and then hands out rewards based on BOINC utilization?

I'm not a developer, but this seems like it would be awfully easy to hack.  How is the proof of work verified?

Not trying to be antagonistic, but I think GRC is about to increase in popularity, and with that, flaws will be exploited.  It seems like a natural step in the evolution of GRC would be for BOINC to be handled at the pool server, with each connected miner appearing as a device in BOINC.

Miners would simply point their mining client at the pool, same as they would with any other scrypt coin.  This would require the pool server software to break up and parse out BOINC work units to the individual miners.  I'm sure this is no small task, but it probably needs to happen if GRC is to succeed.
Boinc credits are 3rd party API verified.  There is a 5000grc reward to hack it.  Have at it.


Maybe I'll have at it, when I can get it working in the first place.  No one has answered my previous posts about being unable to open the mining console.


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Trying running it from the default location first and see if that resolves the issue. It's the simplest test to start with.

So really, the GRC software is completely separate from BOINC? 
This is just a scryptcoin distro that looks for a running instance of BOINC, and then hands out rewards based on BOINC utilization?

I'm not a developer, but this seems like it would be awfully easy to hack.  How is the proof of work verified?

Not trying to be antagonistic, but I think GRC is about to increase in popularity, and with that, flaws will be exploited.  It seems like a natural step in the evolution of GRC would be for BOINC to be handled at the pool server, with each connected miner appearing as a device in BOINC.

Miners would simply point their mining client at the pool, same as they would with any other scrypt coin.  This would require the pool server software to break up and parse out BOINC work units to the individual miners.  I'm sure this is no small task, but it probably needs to happen if GRC is to succeed.
Boinc credits are 3rd party API verified.  There is a 5000grc reward to hack it.  Have at it.


Maybe I'll have at it, when I can get it working in the first place.  No one has answered my previous posts about being unable to open the mining console.


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Okie doke Smiley Glad to know that.
I have other coin wallets but they're not being used. Gridcoin all the way Smiley

I'm trying to move my coins to a new wallet but I'm getting a "Transaction too large" error.
This is not the error related to the fee. I've left adequate coins for the fee and this error follows.
The amount in the transfer is 2800.

edit: If I lower my transaction amount to 2000 I still get the same error. Both come with the following "Transaction creation failed".
If I lower the transaction amount to 1000 it tells me the transaction is too large but I can send it if I pay a 2 GRC fee instead of the normal .001

edit2: At a coin value of 150 some transactions send, others are too big.


You can send it if you send a few smaller transactions out that clean up your wallet private keys, then you can send the large ones; this is an existing feature of all coins;not
sure who the smart alleck is commenting that its a gridcoin issue lol.  Its not.



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I can tell at least in my xp, i have run at 13 i and 8192 tc and still have the issue.  both gpu hang around mid 70c

What intensity and concurrent threads are you running? Also what is the temp of the gpu under load?

I had an issue with scrypt mining on one of the rigs that had 3 7950. I had 4 gig ram and once I upgraded to 6 all gpu were running full speed. I am not sure if that is the same issue as you are having. You can try and it and see if it works.

How much ram does the system have?

Question: I'm hashing with two R9-290 with the guiminer scrypt. The first one (connected with monitor) reaches 840 khs the second without connection to a monitor got only 660 khs. Is that normal?
I'm using the same guiminer settings for both GPU's. Installed catalyst and and SDK only before using the first card. Used to second card just today.

8GB

I see this as well but i am running two 280x with gpu capping at 550 khs while gpu 1 can almost do 700 khs on GRC.  changing intensity seems to make it worse. I have 8 gb ram installed.  i am wondering if gp0 is hindered by windows. i am not a linux guru so all my xp in mining has been windows.  also, i am a newb.
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