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Quote from: cathoderay on December 12, 2014, 06:01:21 PM

Quote from: hashcoins on December 12, 2014, 11:53:39 AM

In order to avoid and resolve such questions, we send our equipment to dogie.....

Of course you will. He'll write whatever you want if the ~~bribe~~ price is right...... Roll Eyes

Then he can sell them & scam more VAT out of some poor wannabe miner.....nice Wink

And then you'll turn up again to totally ignore the content of the thread and lie to attempt to abuse me, then lie and commit more libel.

Anyway, I'm the one doing the primary verification so....

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Quote from: -ck on December 12, 2014, 06:07:26 PM

Quote from: MrTeal on December 12, 2014, 10:36:41 AM

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This screenshot is meant to be from an unmodified official cgminer isn't it?

That is the claim.

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Quote from: MrTeal on December 12, 2014, 10:36:41 AM

This screenshot is meant to be from an unmodified official cgminer isn't it?

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Quote from: hashcoins on December 12, 2014, 11:53:39 AM

In order to avoid and resolve such questions, we send our equipment to dogie.....

Of course you will. He'll write whatever you want if the ~~bribe~~ price is right...... Roll Eyes

Then he can sell them & scam more VAT out of some poor wannabe miner.....nice Wink

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Quote from: MrTeal on December 12, 2014, 03:57:29 PM

Quote from: hashcoins on December 12, 2014, 11:53:39 AM

In order to avoid and resolve such questions, we send our equipment to dogie. Recently we have shipped him an Apollo (you can read his review and specs here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-dogies-comprehensive-hashcoins-apollo-setup-hd-881295). Next, we will send an Ares. And after the Ares the Zeus is planned to be sent. Generally, dogie's reviews are very thorough, so I hope you will be able to find answers to all your questions there.

If you'd like, I'd be willing to compensate any lost income you might suffer from the negative trust between now and a proper review by giving you an escrowed bet up to 100BTC.
I will bet 1:1 that you will not be able to provide a PCB with a single GN1 asic that simultaneously achieves 810GH/s (that is your spec, -10%) and drawing 0.78J/GH at the wall (your spec + 20%).
If you want even further relaxed specs vs what you claim, I will alternately bet you 1:2 (my 100 vs your 200) that you cannot provide a PCB with a single GN1 asic that simultaneously hashes at 710GH/s (20% below your spec) while drawing less than 0.91J/GH at the wall (your spec +40%).

Given the sums involved, the bet of course would need to be escrowed. In addition to the unit you send to dogie, I would like to purchase one board to be sent at the same time for my own verification. If you're unable to provide a full unit, I'd offer to pay 1/5th the price ($600) for the single board. The purchase would also be escrowed, and should the board fail to meet the relaxed spec (710GH/s @ 646.1W) the escrow will be returned to me and I will ship the board back to you at your cost as it is obviously defective.

Let me know if you're interested, and we can flush out and finalize terms.

I can be the intermediate here if it helps. Did the same for XBTec, although that one ended on a draw.

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Quote from: hashcoins on December 12, 2014, 11:53:39 AM

In order to avoid and resolve such questions, we send our equipment to dogie. Recently we have shipped him an Apollo (you can read his review and specs here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-dogies-comprehensive-hashcoins-apollo-setup-hd-881295). Next, we will send an Ares. And after the Ares the Zeus is planned to be sent. Generally, dogie's reviews are very thorough, so I hope you will be able to find answers to all your questions there.

If you'd like, I'd be willing to compensate any lost income you might suffer from the negative trust between now and a proper review by giving you an escrowed bet up to 100BTC.
I will bet 1:1 that you will not be able to provide a PCB with a single GN1 asic that simultaneously achieves 810GH/s (that is your spec, -10%) and drawing 0.78J/GH at the wall (your spec + 20%).
If you want even further relaxed specs vs what you claim, I will alternately bet you 1:2 (my 100 vs your 200) that you cannot provide a PCB with a single GN1 asic that simultaneously hashes at 710GH/s (20% below your spec) while drawing less than 0.91J/GH at the wall (your spec +40%).

Given the sums involved, the bet of course would need to be escrowed. In addition to the unit you send to dogie, I would like to purchase one board to be sent at the same time for my own verification. If you're unable to provide a full unit, I'd offer to pay 1/5th the price ($600) for the single board. The purchase would also be escrowed, and should the board fail to meet the relaxed spec (710GH/s @ 646.1W) the escrow will be returned to me and I will ship the board back to you at your cost as it is obviously defective.

Let me know if you're interested, and we can flush out and finalize terms.

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Quote from: hashcoins on December 12, 2014, 11:53:39 AM

In order to avoid and resolve such questions, we send our equipment to dogie. Recently we have shipped him an Apollo (you can read his review and specs here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-dogies-comprehensive-hashcoins-apollo-setup-hd-881295). Next, we will send an Ares. And after the Ares the Zeus is planned to be sent. Generally, dogie's reviews are very thorough, so I hope you will be able to find answers to all your questions there.

Why is it that you claim to have this super advanced/improved hardware that blows away the competition, yet you only want dogie to review your unimpressive hardware?

Here's what we want to see:

- HF boards that achieve 900 GH/s per chip at 0.65 w/gh.

Here's what nobody cares about:

- HF board which gets 550 gh/s per chip at 1 w/gh
- Scrypt miner which you've bought from alcheminer and added your own logo

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Quote from: hashcoins on December 12, 2014, 11:53:39 AM

In order to avoid and resolve such questions, we send our equipment to dogie. Recently we have shipped him an Apollo (you can read his review and specs here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-dogies-comprehensive-hashcoins-apollo-setup-hd-881295). Next, we will send an Ares. And after the Ares the Zeus is planned to be sent. Generally, dogie's reviews are very thorough, so I hope you will be able to find answers to all your questions there.

Is there a reason you cannot send Ares and Zeus at same time? Or send Zeus first. I think Zeus is one most of us would like to see specs on.

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In order to avoid and resolve such questions, we send our equipment to dogie. Recently we have shipped him an Apollo (you can read his review and specs here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-dogies-comprehensive-hashcoins-apollo-setup-hd-881295). Next, we will send an Ares. And after the Ares the Zeus is planned to be sent. Generally, dogie's reviews are very thorough, so I hope you will be able to find answers to all your questions there.

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Quote from: hashcoins on December 12, 2014, 10:09:10 AM

Quote from: MrTeal on December 12, 2014, 08:24:07 AM

I will remove my negative trust once you send a board to dogie and he confirms your numbers.

HF's document mentions 96x4x2 and 422GH/s at nominal 550MHz. GN on our board provides at least 520 GH/s at 550MHz. The screenshot shows what cgminer shows (with original HF driver) and this is what we are providing. The document by HashFast was composed for their equipment and boards and wasn't updated even after Yoli was released that was 2 steps away from discovering the whole potential of Golden Nonce. Even rev 2.1/2.2 of the boards were able, at certain manipulations with cooling and voltage, to reach results that are not documented by HashFast. That is a fact. This chip has a great potential but not everyone can revise and upgrade the board. Your claim is unjustified.

Your claim is bullshit. Your board can not magically create more hashing engines on the chip. You can claim that your board is more efficient or allows the chip to be clocked higher, but stating that you can produce more hashes per clock than is physically possible is complete bullshit.

Can you explain why your image (linked below for posterity incase it gets deleted from imgur) doesn't conform to the expected relationship between hashrate and WU? The WU total seems to indicate they are actually running around 610GH/s or so, probably with the clock actually set to 800MHz.

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Quote from: MrTeal on December 12, 2014, 08:24:07 AM

I will remove my negative trust once you send a board to dogie and he confirms your numbers.

HF's document mentions 96x4x2 and 422GH/s at nominal 550MHz. GN on our board provides at least 520 GH/s at 550MHz. The screenshot shows what cgminer shows (with original HF driver) and this is what we are providing. The document by HashFast was composed for their equipment and boards and wasn't updated even after Yoli was released that was 2 steps away from discovering the whole potential of Golden Nonce. Even rev 2.1/2.2 of the boards were able, at certain manipulations with cooling and voltage, to reach results that are not documented by HashFast. That is a fact. This chip has a great potential but not everyone can revise and upgrade the board. Your claim is unjustified.

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Quote from: Rabinovitch on December 12, 2014, 07:23:23 AM

They are funny. I can't receive an answers to my questions asked on their website. May be they are ignoring me. Grin

Please contact us directly at [email protected]. But if you are asking funny questions - we may not respond.

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Quote from: hashcoins on December 12, 2014, 04:56:08 AM

Voltage shown by cgminer equals the maximum value for 1 core. After a board is powered up it takes some time to enter the active mode. The minimum required voltage for the core to operate without errors is selected automatically.
Power consumption stated in the technical specifications was measured for the whole device as a single unit. The testing was performed in normal conditions (16-24 C) during a certain timeframe.

That image reveals a blatant attempt to deceive. The GN1 chip has 4 dies, each with 96 cores on them. Each clock cycle one core can do two hashes. That gives an absolute theoretical maximum of 768 hashes per clock cycle. See page 5 of the GN Protocol document for proof.
https://hashfast.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/gn_protocol.pdf
It is a physical impossibility to get 860GH/s from a clock of 950MHz over a couple minute interval.

Also, your WU values (diff1 shares/min) don't match your hashrate. The conversion from WU to hashrate is 2^32*WU/60 (divided by 60 to give diff1/second). Your values do not match at all, and you've likely just edited cgminer to display the wrong hashrate.

I will remove my negative trust once you send a board to dogie and he confirms your numbers.

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They are funny. I can't receive an answers to my questions asked on their website. May be they are ignoring me. Grin

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Voltage shown by cgminer equals the maximum value for 1 core. After a board is powered up it takes some time to enter the active mode. The minimum required voltage for the core to operate without errors is selected automatically.
Power consumption stated in the technical specifications was measured for the whole device as a single unit. The testing was performed in normal conditions (16-24 C) during a certain timeframe.

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Quote from: hashcoins on January 15, 2014, 03:42:24 PM

Zeus V3 4.5 TH/s - $2999 USD https://www.hashcoins.com/buy-asic-miners/buy-zeus/

The HashCoins™ Zeus Miner is 4,5TH/s of mining power in a modern PC case . Powered by five (5) of 28nm ASICs.
Raspberry Pi included. Control your system from anywhere!

Each system contains
• Five system boards with one 28nm ASICs on each
• Performance: 4500 GH/s at nominal clock speed. (That’s 4.5 TH/s in one mining unit.)
• At the wall, this unit consumes 2800 watt / 0.65 watt per gigahash +/- 5%
• Chassis: Corsair Air 540
• Five powerful water cooling systems ( up to 140 CFM each)
• High performance power supply

Please provide some proof that this miner can meet these performance claims.

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So far so good, I received word my Ares is scheduled for shipping tomorrow. I will update when the unit arrives.

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Quote from: dogie on December 11, 2014, 05:41:30 AM

Quote from: cintrondigital on December 11, 2014, 01:44:37 AM

Quote from: hashcoins on December 11, 2014, 12:25:46 AM

Quote from: cintrondigital on December 10, 2014, 03:14:47 PM

btcguild - scrypt mining? Didnt know they offered it.

Of course not. In this version of the interface are displayed pools for SHA-256 only. For scrypt we are using Ghash and Clevermining - those will be displayed in next version.

Thanks for clarifying.

Scyrptguild was a thing from Jan - Sept 2014.

Im well aware of scryptguild. I only questioned because the platform showed 256MHs and the pool was btcguild.

btw dogie, im a fan of your work. thanks for everything you do!

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Quote from: cintrondigital on December 11, 2014, 01:44:37 AM

Quote from: hashcoins on December 11, 2014, 12:25:46 AM

Quote from: cintrondigital on December 10, 2014, 03:14:47 PM

btcguild - scrypt mining? Didnt know they offered it.

Of course not. In this version of the interface are displayed pools for SHA-256 only. For scrypt we are using Ghash and Clevermining - those will be displayed in next version.

Thanks for clarifying.

Scyrptguild was a thing from Jan - Sept 2014.

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Quote from: hashcoins on December 11, 2014, 12:25:46 AM

Quote from: cintrondigital on December 10, 2014, 03:14:47 PM

btcguild - scrypt mining? Didnt know they offered it.

Of course not. In this version of the interface are displayed pools for SHA-256 only. For scrypt we are using Ghash and Clevermining - those will be displayed in next version.

Thanks for clarifying.

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