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my answer to that is a) i have no clue about mining tech, capacity and all that shit and b)thats not the impression one would get from reading all the vitriol in this thread so far

So if you have no clue about mining, why are you declaring the opinions of the lead cgminer dev and HF board dev invalid/unjustified?

Seems you are not at all qualified to make these assertions.

He's using this against you jimmothy:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chewbacca+defense

 Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

what i was saying was that I was not going to argue about technical details, but rather the company's legitimacy and THEIR technical nouse
legendary
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my answer to that is a) i have no clue about mining tech, capacity and all that shit and b)thats not the impression one would get from reading all the vitriol in this thread so far

So if you have no clue about mining, why are you declaring the opinions of the lead cgminer dev and HF board dev invalid/unjustified?

Seems you are not at all qualified to make these assertions.

He's using this against you jimmothy:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chewbacca+defense

 Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin
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It's -16 here now, though it's supposed to warm to highs of ~-10C or so for a couple days before getting back to daytime highs below -20C. +1C sounds pretty balmy to me.
pardon my french but fuuuck that.
legendary
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Im not going to bother to even read the past flame cause it would be 30 pages of unadulterated dross (had a glance), but if YOUR friend "Mr Teal" truly wants to buy a Zeus miner for 100 BTC I WILL PERSONALLY see the transaction through (and claim 50% of excess on RRP).

The only reason noone took it serious is because these "Bets" are just immature, unproductive dross. What if I told you: whilst you put money in escrow, HC will fly you out to Tallinn, Estonia from wherever you live, put you in 5* hotel for 3 nights, pay all your expenses during the stay and show you the office, the mining rig, the orderbook and business registrations and if it turned out that you were wrong you reimburse HC the sum + 50% on top for the trouble and bullshit, what would your reaction be? This rambling is absolutely pointless because you refuse to listen to people who already told you they received the gear, writing them off as noobs shills and whatnot. You know why they haven't got many posts ? Cause they dont spend time jumping into arguments on boards and instead get on with their lives (and mining).
Just to clarify, I didn't offer to buy a Zeus for 100BTC. I offered up an escrowed 100BTC wager that the Zeus miner wouldn't be able to meet the specs as listed, and would buy a board in addition to the one promised to dogie in order to do my own verification.

I don't think anyone is really questioning their earlier products, they all seem reasonable and the customers seem happy with them. It's the new physics defying ones that people are questioning.

The trip does sound interesting though. What's the climate like in Estonia? It's cold as crap here right now. Tongue
my answer to that is a) i have no clue about mining tech, capacity and all that shit and b)thats not the impression one would get from reading all the vitriol in this thread so far

In Tallinn its +1 today, so its wet and melty but it's been steady at -5 - -7 last ten days or so.. dont know if thats cold or not by ur standards ?
It's -16 here now, though it's supposed to warm to highs of ~-10C or so for a couple days before getting back to daytime highs below -20C. +1C sounds pretty balmy to me.
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my answer to that is a) i have no clue about mining tech, capacity and all that shit and b)thats not the impression one would get from reading all the vitriol in this thread so far

So if you have no clue about mining, why are you declaring the opinions of the lead cgminer dev and HF board dev invalid/unjustified?

Seems you are not at all qualified to make these assertions.
member
Activity: 69
Merit: 10
Im not going to bother to even read the past flame cause it would be 30 pages of unadulterated dross (had a glance), but if YOUR friend "Mr Teal" truly wants to buy a Zeus miner for 100 BTC I WILL PERSONALLY see the transaction through (and claim 50% of excess on RRP).

The only reason noone took it serious is because these "Bets" are just immature, unproductive dross. What if I told you: whilst you put money in escrow, HC will fly you out to Tallinn, Estonia from wherever you live, put you in 5* hotel for 3 nights, pay all your expenses during the stay and show you the office, the mining rig, the orderbook and business registrations and if it turned out that you were wrong you reimburse HC the sum + 50% on top for the trouble and bullshit, what would your reaction be? This rambling is absolutely pointless because you refuse to listen to people who already told you they received the gear, writing them off as noobs shills and whatnot. You know why they haven't got many posts ? Cause they dont spend time jumping into arguments on boards and instead get on with their lives (and mining).
Just to clarify, I didn't offer to buy a Zeus for 100BTC. I offered up an escrowed 100BTC wager that the Zeus miner wouldn't be able to meet the specs as listed, and would buy a board in addition to the one promised to dogie in order to do my own verification.

I don't think anyone is really questioning their earlier products, they all seem reasonable and the customers seem happy with them. It's the new physics defying ones that people are questioning.

The trip does sound interesting though. What's the climate like in Estonia? It's cold as crap here right now. Tongue
my answer to that is a) i have no clue about mining tech, capacity and all that shit and b)thats not the impression one would get from reading all the vitriol in this thread so far

In Tallinn its +1 today, so its wet and melty but it's been steady at -5 - -7 last ten days or so.. dont know if thats cold or not by ur standards ?
legendary
Activity: 1274
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Im not going to bother to even read the past flame cause it would be 30 pages of unadulterated dross (had a glance), but if YOUR friend "Mr Teal" truly wants to buy a Zeus miner for 100 BTC I WILL PERSONALLY see the transaction through (and claim 50% of excess on RRP).

The only reason noone took it serious is because these "Bets" are just immature, unproductive dross. What if I told you: whilst you put money in escrow, HC will fly you out to Tallinn, Estonia from wherever you live, put you in 5* hotel for 3 nights, pay all your expenses during the stay and show you the office, the mining rig, the orderbook and business registrations and if it turned out that you were wrong you reimburse HC the sum + 50% on top for the trouble and bullshit, what would your reaction be? This rambling is absolutely pointless because you refuse to listen to people who already told you they received the gear, writing them off as noobs shills and whatnot. You know why they haven't got many posts ? Cause they dont spend time jumping into arguments on boards and instead get on with their lives (and mining).
Just to clarify, I didn't offer to buy a Zeus for 100BTC. I offered up an escrowed 100BTC wager that the Zeus miner wouldn't be able to meet the specs as listed, and would buy a board in addition to the one promised to dogie in order to do my own verification.

I don't think anyone is really questioning their earlier products, they all seem reasonable and the customers seem happy with them. It's the new physics defying ones that people are questioning.

The trip does sound interesting though. What's the climate like in Estonia? It's cold as crap here right now. Tongue
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My 2 cents: I used to go to school with one of the employees, havent bought any hardware, but am familiar with how they operate and seen their setup with my own two eyes. You don't have to take my word on this, I am only affiliated to HashCoins via proxy(classmate), but I just think all this bad rep their way is unjustified. Due to the nature of the supply chain, the business model is sub-optimal, but its what they have.

If direct questions were asked then it would give management a chance to respond to any queries rather than resorting to some internet-board rabbling, fingerpointing and "I dare you"s. Maybe its time for moderators to clean the thread up and make it a more direct Q&A - style thread.

PS. just want to reiterate that i dont own a miner, am not affiliated with HC, I just own a few GH/s in the cloud and have a good friend working there who just shared some of the frustration surrounding this topic.

Another noob who can vouch for hashcoins legitimacy. I guess we can rest assured they are not a scam now. /s

Maybe you can ask ckolivas to clean up this thread. Oh wait that's right, the moderator/cgminer dev is the one calling out hashcoins for faking cgminer stats.

A better idea would be to ask your "friend" why he refused to send Mr Teal a zues board for 100 BTC. That's 100 times the market value and it would dispel the overwhelming doubt surrounding this extremely shady company.

There are only two reasons I can think of why they might not want to accept Mr Teals offer, either they hate money/sales or they are scammers.


mate, i'm not going to get into any arguments with you, im a) not an evangelist of HC, and b) only saying that they are a legitimate business that come through on ALL their orders and c) am doing my own thing, which is in no way affiliated with HC. I only choose to defend them because this is my friend's venture and i see the frustration these accusations bring him. We just live in the same town and country and its in both our interest that bitcoin flourishes here.

Im not going to bother to even read the past flame cause it would be 30 pages of unadulterated dross (had a glance), but if YOUR friend "Mr Teal" truly wants to buy a Zeus miner for 100 BTC I WILL PERSONALLY see the transaction through (and claim 50% of excess on RRP).

The only reason noone took it serious is because these "Bets" are just immature, unproductive dross. What if I told you: whilst you put money in escrow, HC will fly you out to Tallinn, Estonia from wherever you live, put you in 5* hotel for 3 nights, pay all your expenses during the stay and show you the office, the mining rig, the orderbook and business registrations and if it turned out that you were wrong you reimburse HC the sum + 50% on top for the trouble and bullshit, what would your reaction be? This rambling is absolutely pointless because you refuse to listen to people who already told you they received the gear, writing them off as noobs shills and whatnot. You know why they haven't got many posts ? Cause they dont spend time jumping into arguments on boards and instead get on with their lives (and mining).

In regards to me, im not interested in (nor am i an expert in the technical details of) mining or turning a profit from it, i just want to see BTC develop here and enable people to perform BTC / fiat calculations, and it just frustrates me when people without a clue claim to be some experts on all things mining and BTC

I personally think HC have missed a trick by not addressing this earlier, but some of the accusations made in this thread are just pure filth

Please find 1 person who ended up out of pocket. Lets hear THEM out. And still, if the Zeus for 100 BTC offer is on then I will see it through

@hashcoins,

Id highly recommend you send you atleast one review unit to me or another legendary member who can go and verify your units are real so all the claims of your units being fake will no longer be an issue.

VOR mate Smiley If only people were as fast to admit  their mistakes as they are in jumping to conclusions in internet arguments. as far as im aware these have been sent out pre christmas
legendary
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@hashcoins,

Id highly recommend you send you atleast one review unit to me or another legendary member who can go and verify your units are real so all the claims of your units being fake will no longer be an issue.
hero member
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My 2 cents: I used to go to school with one of the employees, havent bought any hardware, but am familiar with how they operate and seen their setup with my own two eyes. You don't have to take my word on this, I am only affiliated to HashCoins via proxy(classmate), but I just think all this bad rep their way is unjustified. Due to the nature of the supply chain, the business model is sub-optimal, but its what they have.

If direct questions were asked then it would give management a chance to respond to any queries rather than resorting to some internet-board rabbling, fingerpointing and "I dare you"s. Maybe its time for moderators to clean the thread up and make it a more direct Q&A - style thread.

PS. just want to reiterate that i dont own a miner, am not affiliated with HC, I just own a few GH/s in the cloud and have a good friend working there who just shared some of the frustration surrounding this topic.

Another noob who can vouch for hashcoins legitimacy. I guess we can rest assured they are not a scam now. /s

Maybe you can ask ckolivas to clean up this thread. Oh wait that's right, the moderator/cgminer dev is the one calling out hashcoins for faking cgminer stats.

A better idea would be to ask your "friend" why he refused to send Mr Teal a zues board for 100 BTC. That's 100 times the market value and it would dispel the overwhelming doubt surrounding this extremely shady company.

There are only two reasons I can think of why they might not want to accept Mr Teals offer, either they hate money/sales or they are scammers.
member
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My 2 cents: I used to go to school with one of the employees, havent bought any hardware, but am familiar with how they operate and seen their setup with my own two eyes. You don't have to take my word on this, I am only affiliated to HashCoins via proxy(classmate), but I just think all this bad rep their way is unjustified. Due to the nature of the supply chain, the business model is sub-optimal, but its what they have.

If direct questions were asked then it would give management a chance to respond to any queries rather than resorting to some internet-board rabbling, fingerpointing and "I dare you"s. Maybe its time for moderators to clean the thread up and make it a more direct Q&A - style thread.

PS. just want to reiterate that i dont own a miner, am not affiliated with HC, I just own a few GH/s in the cloud and have a good friend working there who just shared some of the frustration surrounding this topic.
vip
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^^ damn this man is posting ID's with home address and all haha

He's posted..... worse things before, consider this light.

+1
legendary
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born once atheist
well at least i got the thread fired up again...
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
^^ damn this man is posting ID's with home address and all haha

He's posted..... worse things before, consider this light.
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WANTED: Active dev to fix & re-write p2pool in C
After much thought, I too have decided to oblige. Here's mine:



Hashcoins - have your man contact my man........ Cheesy
vip
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^^ damn this man is posting ID's with home address and all haha

And it's for real. Now, who is this HashCoins guy?
legendary
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^^ damn this man is posting ID's with home address and all haha
vip
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Firstly, we are not obliged to prove absolutely anything to you personally. Secondly, you devalue our name and image. And thirdly, if you deem you have superior privileges and rights to disgrase our company publicly, then you should firstly get an official response from us about your claims.

Our company does not involve itself in betting - it is immoral. Please, MrTeal, jimmothy and IYFTech, publish your real names (yes, the same ones that are written in your passports) in this thread and send a scan or photocopy of you ID to [email protected], and I am the one who is personally going to show you how our board works, in the court of law. And it may be too late to feel bitter whilst looking at the amount of the claim that you will be charged for defamation, false information and insinuation, which discredited the name of my company. If this request is not followed, then I will no longer respond to any of your claims.

Regards,
Sergei Potapenko.

PS! I'm not going to send boards or prove something to any user at his/her request. Especially when put in conditions including, but not limited to, blackmailing, frightening and putting negative trust in advance and just because. The fact that your status reads "hero" or "legendary" - to me just says that you have a lot of free time and you sit on the forum for a long time and write a lot. But in fact - I do not even know who each of you are! I understand... The Internet, anonymity, etc. But you defame the real name of a real company, and my name in particular. So I repeat: putting forward these claims, insulting, and already having discredited our name in advance, I did not think it necessary to prove you anything. We do not negotiate with blackmailing instigators.

No passport, but would this suffice?



Say the word, and I'll publicly publish my SSN. Wait, I've already done that on this forum, thus would have no qualms with doing it again.

~Bruno Kucinskas
legendary
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Dr Charles, my two cents are: the company is reputable, as well as it exists and delivers.

Are you a product owner? Do you know the quality products provided? I see a Dogie review on the Apollo but nothing on the Zeus miner.

For example... the Zeus Miner listing states 4,500Gh and 2,800 watts at the wallet and shows an efficiency of .65W/GH...

Well simple math shows you that if the unit produces 4,500GH and should draw .65w per GH then the actual consumption would be 2,925watts or am I missing something?

Because if the unit is as listed in their description it would actually have an efficiency of .62w/GH.

Thank you.
sr. member
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Dr Charles, my two cents are: the company is reputable, as well as it exists and delivers.
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