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Will these puppies do scrypt-n or any other scrypt based algorythms?

No - there are no scrypt-n asic chips, just regular scrypt. I know it's been talked about and is probably being tested some where in some lab in China. but the X11 and scrypt-n guys are so paranoid about asics that they'd change their algo at even the smallest hint someone was mining their coins with asics. There are very few large GPU farms in existence so an asic whale in that algo would stick out like a sore thumb.
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Will these puppies do scrypt-n or any other scrypt based algorythms?
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I wonder if there is a linux version of CGWatcher.

Would be nice to be able to monitor my Warps from CGRemote

no there's not - only a windows version. I use cgremote to monitor my two warps, my gridseeds and my blades..

Ahh, but you're running them from a PC running CGWatcher, right ?

I was hoping there might be a way to do this from PI managed systems

yes - you have to run it from a pc using windoze... argh!

but I'm sure if you look around you'll find something for linux sonce cgminer has an api

"If you want to have a CGWatcher-like monitor for your Linux, OSX, or Raspberry Pi miners, CGRemote will do that too."

mmhh....how is the question !
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I wonder if there is a linux version of CGWatcher.

Would be nice to be able to monitor my Warps from CGRemote

no there's not - only a windows version. I use cgremote to monitor my two warps, my gridseeds and my blades..

Ahh, but you're running them from a PC running CGWatcher, right ?

I was hoping there might be a way to do this from PI managed systems

yes - you have to run it from a pc using windoze... argh!

but I'm sure if you look around you'll find something for linux sonce cgminer has an api
sr. member
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I wonder if there is a linux version of CGWatcher.

Would be nice to be able to monitor my Warps from CGRemote

no there's not - only a windows version. I use cgremote to monitor my two warps, my gridseeds and my blades..

Ahh, but you're running them from a PC running CGWatcher, right ?

I was hoping there might be a way to do this from PI managed systems
sr. member
Activity: 266
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I wonder if there is a linux version of CGWatcher.

Would be nice to be able to monitor my Warps from CGRemote

no there's not - only a windows version. I use cgremote to monitor my two warps, my gridseeds and my blades..
sr. member
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I wonder if there is a linux version of CGWatcher.

Would be nice to be able to monitor my Warps from CGRemote
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This is to inform the developers that the newest update you just made fixed my earlier connection problems. I can now mine via the Raspberry Pi now and updating is more stable but could still use some work. It also no longer hates FireFox. Thank you for your efforts.
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yes - plug in all four sockets!


yes - it's my understanding that the Launcher was changed from 1 80 chip board to two smaller boards (to aid on cooling)

make you you've downloaded the correct firmware from the Hashra site - it's odd that it would not work out of the box since one one unit thus far (that we heard about) was delivered damaged.




Ok, thank you for the information.

I corrected the CGminer startup from line from: "--chips-count 128" to "--chips-count 64" and it is no longer reporting double the hash rate that it should be within CGminer. I was going off of the chip count within the instructions when setting it.
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yes - plug in all four sockets!


yes - it's my understanding that the Launcher was changed from 1 80 chip board to two smaller boards (to aid on cooling)

make you you've downloaded the correct firmware from the Hashra site - it's odd that it would not work out of the box since one one unit thus far (that we heard about) was delivered damaged.


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 make sure you're not plugging all 8 pins either - only plug in the 6 pin pcie connector not the additional 2 pin connector on the pcie.


I actually do have all four PCIE connection slots plugged in with 6 pin PCIEs. The directions didn't say to only use two and one could only assume that since it came with four you must use all four. I'm going to try that right now unless you are warning me to not 8 pin PCIEs and I am just misunderstanding? Either way, thank you very much for the information.

For informational purposes, what specific kinds of problems could I expect having all four PCIE connections being used if that is not to be done with the 14 MHs version?


And for further reference, the miner after a few days of mining has performed as advertised. I'm getting a consistent 13.5 to 15 MHs via pooled mining used through a direct PC USB connection. The only problem I'm getting is when I'm solo mining I'll get some good hash rates at first but then it will progressively slow down within 10 minutes or so. My understanding is that by design you were meant to use the miner via a Raspberry Pi so that may be causing the hash rate to go down during solo mining. As a note, when I first started solo mining with my Antminer S1 I had to adjust the settings to accommodate the miner before the solo mining hash rate was to my liking and doing similar adjusting is getting me longer solo mining sessions with this unit so it could just be a matter of finding the magic numbers I require.
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the instructions say to only use 6 of the 8 pins.

do not use the extra 2 pins that would normally connect to a GPU board (the little 2 pin plug - do not plug that into the back of the Hashra unit)



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Edited and reworked the question because you should never post when you are tired, ha!:

Alright, I see. Then I do have it all plugged up correctly pin wise. I'm using only the 6 PCIE pins but I have all four sockets in back of the unit plugged in with one. I misunderstood, it's late. My question really is that the store page says: "Power Connection: 2 x PSU 6 PIN PCIE Sockets" and I want to know if I have all four sockets plugged in will that cause any kind problem down the road?

Also, I noticed that the name changed from Lander to Launcher from earlier. And I used the Lander instructions available within support to set up my unit. The instructions said that the "lander" series has 128 chips but the original settings within the miner said 64. Since those are the "lander" instructions and this a "launcher" does that chip count still apply? I just rechecked the store page and it says: "2 x MINI HASHRA APOLLO MODULES (64 Chips in total)" So I can only assume that instructions on the support page needs to be updated for a launcher.
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 make sure you're not plugging all 8 pins either - only plug in the 6 pin pcie connector not the additional 2 pin connector on the pcie.

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I actually do have all four PCIE connection slots plugged in with 6 pin PCIEs. The directions didn't say to only use two and one could only assume that since it came with four you must use all four. I'm going to try that right now unless you are warning me to not 8 pin PCIEs and I am just misunderstanding? Either way, thank you very much for the information.

For informational purposes, what specific kinds of problems could I expect having all four PCIE connections being used if that is not to be done with the 14 MHs version?


And for further reference, the miner after a few days of mining has performed as advertised. I'm getting a consistent 13.5 to 15 MHs via pooled mining used through a direct PC USB connection. The only problem I'm getting is when I'm solo mining I'll get some good hash rates at first but then it will progressively slow down within 10 minutes or so. My understanding is that by design you were meant to use the miner via a Raspberry Pi so that may be causing the hash rate to go down during solo mining. As a note, when I first started solo mining with my Antminer S1 I had to adjust the settings to accommodate the miner before the solo mining hash rate was to my liking and doing similar adjusting is getting me longer solo mining sessions with this unit so it could just be a matter of finding the magic numbers I require.
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the instructions say to only use 6 of the 8 pins.

do not use the extra 2 pins that would normally connect to a GPU board (the little 2 pin plug - do not plug that into the back of the Hashra unit)


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 make sure you're not plugging all 8 pins either - only plug in the 6 pin pcie connector not the additional 2 pin connector on the pcie.

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I actually do have all four PCIE connection slots plugged in with 6 pin PCIEs. The directions didn't say to only use two and one could only assume that since it came with four you must use all four. I'm going to try that right now unless you are warning me to not 8 pin PCIEs and I am just misunderstanding? Either way, thank you very much for the information.

For informational purposes, what specific kinds of problems could I expect having all four PCIE connections being used if that is not to be done with the 14 MHs version?


And for further reference, the miner after a few days of mining has performed as advertised. I'm getting a consistent 13.5 to 15 MHs via pooled mining used through a direct PC USB connection. The only problem I'm getting is when I'm solo mining I'll get some good hash rates at first but then it will progressively slow down within 10 minutes or so. My understanding is that by design you were meant to use the miner via a Raspberry Pi so that may be causing the hash rate to go down during solo mining. As a note, when I first started solo mining with my Antminer S1 I had to adjust the settings to accommodate the miner before the solo mining hash rate was to my liking and doing similar adjusting is getting me longer solo mining sessions with this unit so it could just be a matter of finding the magic numbers I require.
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Just to let you guys I'm still fiddling with it but so far the Raspberry Pi software needs more work. I can't get the LL to connect to anything through it but if I just connect the LL directly to my PC ( although I'm using a hub for it ) with the USB cable, like you would a jalapeno, it works just fine. So far it's chugging along without any problems and aside from the firmware not working everything is in order and of good quality. I am using the CGminer version that is available at the Hashra site and I've been solo mining to test it out but will go to a pool next in a few hours. I also appreciate the manufacturer doing "the paperclip thing" in advance with the power switch but make sure the factory people press it in all the way. It kept powering down on me until I realized that it was not pressed in all the way in.

The error with the firmware has to do with the "socket can't connect" issue I have seen online already. I also get different messages like the pool had no credentials and the GUI will hang indefinitely until I close and reopened the browser every time I save, restart, or reboot. Plus, it seems to hate Firefox. I could only get it to load once with it and the rest of the time I had to use IE to access the dashboard. So unless it's user error it needs fixing but I spent quite a few hours trying to get it to work. But in the end, so long as it hashes I could always use a third party dashboard in the meantime.



What are you using to power your Pi?  Quite often lack of power to the Pi can give weird results.  When I used the cable that came with it, the NIC would not power up.  Just grab a micro usb phone charger that outputs at least 1A (1000mA) and that will be sufficient.  Don't be concerned if the charger output's greater than 1A as the Pi will only draw what it needs.  Voltage on the other hand is a different matter, micro USB phone chargers output 5v, just make sure if you decide to use any other power source that it is only 5v, and that the 5v is steady.

Also which miner do you have?  As it appears from the support page that there is different firmware for the Lunar Lander and Lunar Launcher, so it's worth double checking that you are running the correct version by downloading the correct one from the support website and flashing it to a new SD card.  Think you only need a 4Gb card, but I generally use 8gb ones with my Pi's.

I'm using the USB power connecter that it comes with so it's directly connected to my PSU with does have enough power for the unit but I will try a phone charger next. My PSU is a CorsairTX750. The construction does look makeshift and I did have the earlier problem with the power switch so it's not out of the question that it could be a minor assembly issue. I am using the controla that came with the unit itself and I made sure the it was update to date when I started the unit. I'm using the 14 MHs version and unless they packed and wrote the wrong version on my SD card it should be correct the version.

I knew there was going to be a price drop on the units be no so fast! It's under $1000 so quick. If you're willing to wait of course, ha!


I would do this - assuming you have ssh

ssh to the Pi once it's up and running login using pi/controla

then do this : "tail -f /var/log/syslog" and report those results to [email protected] - Their support guy is great and can help you determine the problem -  though if you're using one of their 28 mh units you don't have enough power to the miner.

Mine draws 960 watts on the killawatt meter. for the 14mh unit you should be fine with the 750w psu - make sure you're not plugging all 8 pins either - only plug in the 6 pin pcie connector not the additional 2 pin connector on the pcie.

good luck

Jeff

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Just to let you guys I'm still fiddling with it but so far the Raspberry Pi software needs more work. I can't get the LL to connect to anything through it but if I just connect the LL directly to my PC ( although I'm using a hub for it ) with the USB cable, like you would a jalapeno, it works just fine. So far it's chugging along without any problems and aside from the firmware not working everything is in order and of good quality. I am using the CGminer version that is available at the Hashra site and I've been solo mining to test it out but will go to a pool next in a few hours. I also appreciate the manufacturer doing "the paperclip thing" in advance with the power switch but make sure the factory people press it in all the way. It kept powering down on me until I realized that it was not pressed in all the way in.

The error with the firmware has to do with the "socket can't connect" issue I have seen online already. I also get different messages like the pool had no credentials and the GUI will hang indefinitely until I close and reopened the browser every time I save, restart, or reboot. Plus, it seems to hate Firefox. I could only get it to load once with it and the rest of the time I had to use IE to access the dashboard. So unless it's user error it needs fixing but I spent quite a few hours trying to get it to work. But in the end, so long as it hashes I could always use a third party dashboard in the meantime.



What are you using to power your Pi?  Quite often lack of power to the Pi can give weird results.  When I used the cable that came with it, the NIC would not power up.  Just grab a micro usb phone charger that outputs at least 1A (1000mA) and that will be sufficient.  Don't be concerned if the charger output's greater than 1A as the Pi will only draw what it needs.  Voltage on the other hand is a different matter, micro USB phone chargers output 5v, just make sure if you decide to use any other power source that it is only 5v, and that the 5v is steady.

Also which miner do you have?  As it appears from the support page that there is different firmware for the Lunar Lander and Lunar Launcher, so it's worth double checking that you are running the correct version by downloading the correct one from the support website and flashing it to a new SD card.  Think you only need a 4Gb card, but I generally use 8gb ones with my Pi's.

I'm using the USB power connecter that it comes with so it's directly connected to my PSU with does have enough power for the unit but I will try a phone charger next. My PSU is a CorsairTX750. The construction does look makeshift and I did have the earlier problem with the power switch so it's not out of the question that it could be a minor assembly issue. I am using the controla that came with the unit itself and I made sure the it was update to date when I started the unit. I'm using the 14 MHs version and unless they packed and wrote the wrong version on my SD card it should be correct the version.

I knew there was going to be a price drop on the units be no so fast! It's under $1000 so quick. If you're willing to wait of course, ha!
sr. member
Activity: 266
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Just to let you guys I'm still fiddling with it but so far the Raspberry Pi software needs more work. I can't get the LL to connect to anything through it but if I just connect the LL directly to my PC ( although I'm using a hub for it ) with the USB cable, like you would a jalapeno, it works just fine. So far it's chugging along without any problems and aside from the firmware not working everything is in order and of good quality. I am using the CGminer version that is available at the Hashra site and I've been solo mining to test it out but will go to a pool next in a few hours. I also appreciate the manufacturer doing "the paperclip thing" in advance with the power switch but make sure the factory people press it in all the way. It kept powering down on me until I realized that it was not pressed in all the way in.

The error with the firmware has to do with the "socket can't connect" issue I have seen online already. I also get different messages like the pool had no credentials and the GUI will hang indefinitely until I close and reopened the browser every time I save, restart, or reboot. Plus, it seems to hate Firefox. I could only get it to load once with it and the rest of the time I had to use IE to access the dashboard. So unless it's user error it needs fixing but I spent quite a few hours trying to get it to work. But in the end, so long as it hashes I could always use a third party dashboard in the meantime.



What are you using to power your Pi?  Quite often lack of power to the Pi can give weird results.  When I used the cable that came with it, the NIC would not power up.  Just grab a micro usb phone charger that outputs at least 1A (1000mA) and that will be sufficient.  Don't be concerned if the charger output's greater than 1A as the Pi will only draw what it needs.  Voltage on the other hand is a different matter, micro USB phone chargers output 5v, just make sure if you decide to use any other power source that it is only 5v, and that the 5v is steady.

Also which miner do you have?  As it appears from the support page that there is different firmware for the Lunar Lander and Lunar Launcher, so it's worth double checking that you are running the correct version by downloading the correct one from the support website and flashing it to a new SD card.  Think you only need a 4Gb card, but I generally use 8gb ones with my Pi's.

yes - the power cable that comes with the Pi rarely works. You'll know it's not working if the link light on your hub does not light up - all the lights in the Pi should be lit brightly. I got the first Hashra unit in the U.S. and I found this out immediately. fortunately for me I had a spare pi and I had a spre power cable for an android because I needed one for each of my Hashra units.
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Just to let you guys I'm still fiddling with it but so far the Raspberry Pi software needs more work. I can't get the LL to connect to anything through it but if I just connect the LL directly to my PC ( although I'm using a hub for it ) with the USB cable, like you would a jalapeno, it works just fine. So far it's chugging along without any problems and aside from the firmware not working everything is in order and of good quality. I am using the CGminer version that is available at the Hashra site and I've been solo mining to test it out but will go to a pool next in a few hours. I also appreciate the manufacturer doing "the paperclip thing" in advance with the power switch but make sure the factory people press it in all the way. It kept powering down on me until I realized that it was not pressed in all the way in.

The error with the firmware has to do with the "socket can't connect" issue I have seen online already. I also get different messages like the pool had no credentials and the GUI will hang indefinitely until I close and reopened the browser every time I save, restart, or reboot. Plus, it seems to hate Firefox. I could only get it to load once with it and the rest of the time I had to use IE to access the dashboard. So unless it's user error it needs fixing but I spent quite a few hours trying to get it to work. But in the end, so long as it hashes I could always use a third party dashboard in the meantime.



What are you using to power your Pi?  Quite often lack of power to the Pi can give weird results.  When I used the cable that came with it, the NIC would not power up.  Just grab a micro usb phone charger that outputs at least 1A (1000mA) and that will be sufficient.  Don't be concerned if the charger output's greater than 1A as the Pi will only draw what it needs.  Voltage on the other hand is a different matter, micro USB phone chargers output 5v, just make sure if you decide to use any other power source that it is only 5v, and that the 5v is steady.

Also which miner do you have?  As it appears from the support page that there is different firmware for the Lunar Lander and Lunar Launcher, so it's worth double checking that you are running the correct version by downloading the correct one from the support website and flashing it to a new SD card.  Think you only need a 4Gb card, but I generally use 8gb ones with my Pi's.
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Simon are you going to answer me?
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Can this be setup for wireless just curious?

I`m new to alt mining as well lol.

You'd need a WiFi dongle for the Pi itself. I plan on getting one later on and getting it connected.
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Can this be setup for wireless just curious?

I`m new to alt mining as well lol.
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