(and sorry, I was still editing my post when you already replied)
Topic: I visited BFL, any questions ? - page 11. (Read 14888 times)
Thanks for your reply. I take it you are also buying stuff on silk road from sellers with bad reputation, just because it's cheaper
(and sorry, I was still editing my post when you already replied)
(and sorry, I was still editing my post when you already replied)
That was really a good idea. I thought about that myself but I don't have time to travel right now.
Here are a couple of questions:
What is their place of business (address) and what are their real names?
Why all the secrecy about who they are and where they are?
Which FPGA chip are they using? (they say we can use it for other purpose, but at the same time they do everything to hide what it is from customers).
Why do they keep telling 6-8 weeks while they must clearly know they can't pull it off by now? It's been 6 months they have been claiming 6-8 weeks.
Did you meet the main engineer with the funny accent or just Sonny?
Are they really building them there one by one in their office?
What's with all the fake information about making medical devices?
I suppose the "the lady" in the picture is an employee of their assembling/prototyping house, not their own employee. Do they actually have any employees?
Why did their company incorporator/registered agent deny any connection with these guys and resign in January?
Why are they coming up with products that only exist in their imagination (Rig Box, Mini Rig Box) and take payments for it? Only to find out later that what they thought was possible does already fail with the basics (powering 2500 Watt, cooling 2500 Watt, etc).
What are they doing different than others to come up with nearly twice the hashing power per chip?
Where do I go if I send them my $15k and they disappear overnight?
As you can see, my confidence is very low right now. But if anybody convinces me otherwise, sending money to BFL is back on the table. I have money and I want to buy mining hardware. My confidence in them was much higher before, that's when I sent them $17k cash (for singles that I would still be waiting for while the promised delivery time passed twice, and for a product that was cancelled, the Rig Box). Luckily I pulled the plug early enough and received my money back (I paid the majority via PayPal).
All the things surrounding BFL are like buying something off The Silk Road from a seller with very bad reputation. Maybe you'll get something, maybe not. Maybe you'll get it within the promised time frame, maybe not. Maybe you'll get good quality, maybe not. Maybe, if things go down hill, the seller will go offline with your Bitcoins and never come back.
Now one question for you personally:
What makes you think that you will be better off with a couple of Mini Rigs than your own FPGA cluster? Surely it must be possible to build your own FPGA cluster in the same time frame for a similar amount of money, without taking the risk of somebody screwing you over big time. A higher price might also be worth it, for the lower risk of the transaction. Did you speak to the other FPGA board vendors?
And since you are so willing to take a big risk, have you considered giving $2250 to an escrow agent (with virtually no risk) for a LargeCoin 20GH/s unit that will cost you $15k and will be delivered in July if everything goes smoothly? Even if you don't believe in LC, ordering a few virtually doesn't cost you anything except sending a relatively small amount of money to an escrow, which will send it back to you in case they are not holding up their promise. Doesn't this make more sense?
Here are a couple of questions:
What is their place of business (address) and what are their real names?
Why all the secrecy about who they are and where they are?
Which FPGA chip are they using? (they say we can use it for other purpose, but at the same time they do everything to hide what it is from customers).
Why do they keep telling 6-8 weeks while they must clearly know they can't pull it off by now? It's been 6 months they have been claiming 6-8 weeks.
Did you meet the main engineer with the funny accent or just Sonny?
Are they really building them there one by one in their office?
What's with all the fake information about making medical devices?
I suppose the "the lady" in the picture is an employee of their assembling/prototyping house, not their own employee. Do they actually have any employees?
Why did their company incorporator/registered agent deny any connection with these guys and resign in January?
Why are they coming up with products that only exist in their imagination (Rig Box, Mini Rig Box) and take payments for it? Only to find out later that what they thought was possible does already fail with the basics (powering 2500 Watt, cooling 2500 Watt, etc).
What are they doing different than others to come up with nearly twice the hashing power per chip?
Where do I go if I send them my $15k and they disappear overnight?
As you can see, my confidence is very low right now. But if anybody convinces me otherwise, sending money to BFL is back on the table. I have money and I want to buy mining hardware. My confidence in them was much higher before, that's when I sent them $17k cash (for singles that I would still be waiting for while the promised delivery time passed twice, and for a product that was cancelled, the Rig Box). Luckily I pulled the plug early enough and received my money back (I paid the majority via PayPal).
All the things surrounding BFL are like buying something off The Silk Road from a seller with very bad reputation. Maybe you'll get something, maybe not. Maybe you'll get it within the promised time frame, maybe not. Maybe you'll get good quality, maybe not. Maybe, if things go down hill, the seller will go offline with your Bitcoins and never come back.
Now one question for you personally:
What makes you think that you will be better off with a couple of Mini Rigs than your own FPGA cluster? Surely it must be possible to build your own FPGA cluster in the same time frame for a similar amount of money, without taking the risk of somebody screwing you over big time. A higher price might also be worth it, for the lower risk of the transaction. Did you speak to the other FPGA board vendors?
And since you are so willing to take a big risk, have you considered giving $2250 to an escrow agent (with virtually no risk) for a LargeCoin 20GH/s unit that will cost you $15k and will be delivered in July if everything goes smoothly? Even if you don't believe in LC, ordering a few virtually doesn't cost you anything except sending a relatively small amount of money to an escrow, which will send it back to you in case they are not holding up their promise. Doesn't this make more sense?
sorry no photos , but if you are asking them for confirmation , BFL guys can vouch for me 
Photos ?
I actually hopped a plane from Turkey and visited BFL office in Kansas City, everybody was great, if you have any doubts about about their operation or intentions you can relax, they are really working hard, trying to answer every question you ask from emails to forums, they value your opinions, and they are really trying hard to meet the deadlines they promised.
I'm buying some mini rigs from them, they have 12-15 weeks of lead time for them and I completely understand why they have that lead time.
I know I sound like an advertisement but thats what I saw while I was there so
If you have any questions about my visit I may answer them for you here.
I'm buying some mini rigs from them, they have 12-15 weeks of lead time for them and I completely understand why they have that lead time.
I know I sound like an advertisement but thats what I saw while I was there so
If you have any questions about my visit I may answer them for you here.
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