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legendary
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Marketing manager - GO MP
April 23, 2012, 08:19:25 AM
#86
What are the chances of the BFL chips being a genuine Cell ASIC anyway?

I get the whole calling the bluff thing, but shouldn't it come up at digikey or mouser if you *just* select the right package and look in the price range? (What form factor is the package some VFBGAXXX, but which one?)
hero member
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Immersionist
April 22, 2012, 11:48:10 PM
#85
What if they switched pins around on the JTAG header (not even sure if it is populated on the PCB, I won't bother to look at the pictures).
legendary
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Merit: 1000
What's a GPU?
April 22, 2012, 04:24:00 PM
#84
I'll still pay 5BTC for an IDCODE readout even if it turns out the "big chip" is not on the chain and all that comes back is some sort of flash memory device (e.g. for holding configuration data).
I'm also very interested in this. Someone do it please!
donator
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Merit: 1004
felonious vagrancy, personified
April 22, 2012, 04:15:04 PM
#83
Which FPGA chip are they using? (they say we can use it for other purpose, but at the same time they do everything to hide what it is from customers).

This is really easy to figure out.  Their board has an exposed JTAG header; just hook it up and query for the IDCODE.  I've offered a 5BTC bounty for whoever does this first.


BFL indicated that won't work.  My guess is the JTAG header is not connected directly to the chip.

That sounds like BFL trying to discourage people from trying.  If the header weren't connected to anything, they wouldn't have wasted board space on it.  Also, not having a JTAG connection to the most expensive device on the board is a huge DFM (design for manufacturability) and DFT (design for testability) nightmare.

I'll still pay 5BTC for an IDCODE readout even if it turns out the "big chip" is not on the chain and all that comes back is some sort of flash memory device (e.g. for holding configuration data).
donator
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Gerald Davis
April 22, 2012, 04:12:36 PM
#82
Which FPGA chip are they using? (they say we can use it for other purpose, but at the same time they do everything to hide what it is from customers).

This is really easy to figure out.  Their board has an exposed JTAG header; just hook it up and query for the IDCODE.  I've offered a 5BTC bounty for whoever does this first.


BFL indicated that won't work.  My guess is the JTAG header is not connected directly to the chip.
donator
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felonious vagrancy, personified
April 22, 2012, 04:08:08 PM
#81
Which FPGA chip are they using? (they say we can use it for other purpose, but at the same time they do everything to hide what it is from customers).

This is really easy to figure out.  Their board has an exposed JTAG header; just hook it up and query for the IDCODE.  I've offered a 5BTC bounty for whoever does this first.
hero member
Activity: 628
Merit: 504
April 21, 2012, 12:28:15 PM
#80
lol why has this become America vs Britain ? I would love to see a BFL type company here in Britain, but we don't have one. I am much happier dealing with a company in USA then if it was a company in China.

Regardless of the design origin, almost everything is made in China.  Grin
sr. member
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Merit: 250
April 20, 2012, 06:31:39 AM
#79
lol why has this become America vs Britain ? I would love to see a BFL type company here in Britain, but we don't have one. I am much happier dealing with a company in USA then if it was a company in China.
mem
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Herp Derp PTY LTD
April 20, 2012, 04:44:52 AM
#78
We also have the largest number of good movies.  Well.. that and we basically own the entire movie industry for all intents and purposes.  Gotta expect some shit from the giant pile we produce.


Yes America does produce a giant pile of shit, but every now and then you get a nugget of gold.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
April 17, 2012, 09:32:04 AM
#77
We also have the largest number of good movies.  Well.. that and we basically own the entire movie industry for all intents and purposes.  Gotta expect some shit from the giant pile we produce.
member
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April 17, 2012, 09:20:41 AM
#76
So the british not only have the worst comedy now they have the longest running soap opera... So sad : p hehe. America still has the largest number of crappy movies to make up for it ; p
full member
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April 17, 2012, 02:49:00 AM
#75
America is the only place that I know of that actually has a continuous running soap opera going for longer than 20 years... and incredibly it's still popular... /so sad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronation_Street
Coronation Street is an English continuous drama set in Weatherfield, a fictional town in Greater Manchester[1] based on Salford. ... Coronation Street was first broadcast on 9 December 1960.

On 17 September 2010, it became the world's longest-running TV soap opera in production, after the United States soap opera As the World Turns ended.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EastEnders
EastEnders is a British television soap opera, first broadcast in the United Kingdom on BBC One on 19 February 1985

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neighbours
Neighbours is an Australian television soap opera. It was first broadcast on the Seven Network on 18 March 1985

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_and_Away
Home and Away is an Australian soap opera/Drama that has been produced in Sydney since July 1987 and has aired on the Seven Network since 17 January 1988


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member
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April 16, 2012, 11:25:30 PM
#74
So, another thread about BFL.

Have to subscribe Smiley

It's one of the best soap opera around here, you can't miss that.  Grin

America is the only place that I know of that actually has a continuous running soap opera going for longer than 20 years... and incredibly it's still popular... /so sad
member
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Merit: 10
April 16, 2012, 11:22:41 PM
#73
I will take you up on that bet, DT.  Absolutely. Order that single today and and show me a receipt of the order and we'll see on the 24th if you have one for free or not.

Ordered.  PM sent for receipt.

I may be the only person w/ an ordered Single which is hoping it arrives in >43 days. Smiley

I just ordered a few yesterday, was going to order 30 but decided to only order 23 for now and see, I don't want lock too much money for too long and waiting for a mini-rig 4 month wait list is too painful for me so the compromise was the singles, so hopefully after you get yours on the 24th of May or earlier I get my order by the 28th at the latest too hehe :p
hero member
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April 15, 2012, 11:24:23 PM
#72
So, another thread about BFL.

Have to subscribe Smiley

It's one of the best soap opera around here, you can't miss that.  Grin
full member
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Merit: 100
April 15, 2012, 05:02:50 PM
#71
So, another thread about BFL.

Have to subscribe Smiley
sr. member
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Merit: 250
April 14, 2012, 12:46:46 PM
#70
Trying to order a Mini-Rig, they have sent me very lousy bank details, when I tell them I need SWIFT number and IBAN number for Internatinal transfer, they say the have no idea what these are.

I have doubt about trusting these people now.
North American banks don't use IBAN numbers. At least for mine, you concat the institution number, transit number and account number together, not necessarily in that order. That's not a BFL think, it's just an issue sending wires between Europe and NA. They should know what a SWIFT number is though, although that is sometimes labeled differently here. My bank calls the SWIFT number the BIC.
^ This.

NA Banks don't use IBAN/SWIFT, they use a Clearing Code and/or Fedwire/ABA code.

They do use SWIFT codes ! Here the information i got from Sonny:

Bank name: XXX
Bank address: XXX
Swift:  XXX
ABA / Routing: XXX
Account Name: XXX
Account Number: XXX
Account Address: XXX

If you call that lousy you have no idea !

Edit: Account information removed on request of BFL

I received the same bank information as Turbor right before I wired $30k to BFL on March 13th, the receipt of which Sonny confirmed on March 14th.  Although I didn't need the SWIFT code, they did provide it to me.  ice_chill's claim that BFL says they don't know their bank's SWIFT number is a lie.

It wasn't a lie, I have received a follow up email from another person from their company with the SWIFT code, the first person that sent the email did not know it.

Then you should've edited your post.  My apologies.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
April 14, 2012, 12:30:50 PM
#69
Trying to order a Mini-Rig, they have sent me very lousy bank details, when I tell them I need SWIFT number and IBAN number for Internatinal transfer, they say the have no idea what these are.

I have doubt about trusting these people now.
North American banks don't use IBAN numbers. At least for mine, you concat the institution number, transit number and account number together, not necessarily in that order. That's not a BFL think, it's just an issue sending wires between Europe and NA. They should know what a SWIFT number is though, although that is sometimes labeled differently here. My bank calls the SWIFT number the BIC.
^ This.

NA Banks don't use IBAN/SWIFT, they use a Clearing Code and/or Fedwire/ABA code.

They do use SWIFT codes ! Here the information i got from Sonny:

Bank name: XXX
Bank address: XXX
Swift:  XXX
ABA / Routing: XXX
Account Name: XXX
Account Number: XXX
Account Address: XXX

If you call that lousy you have no idea !

Edit: Account information removed on request of BFL

I received the same bank information as Turbor right before I wired $30k to BFL on March 13th, the receipt of which Sonny confirmed on March 14th.  Although I didn't need the SWIFT code, they did provide it to me.  ice_chill's claim that BFL says they don't know their bank's SWIFT number is a lie.

It wasn't a lie, I have received a follow up email from another person from their company with the SWIFT code, the first person that sent the email did not know it.
sr. member
Activity: 348
Merit: 250
April 14, 2012, 12:28:14 PM
#68
Trying to order a Mini-Rig, they have sent me very lousy bank details, when I tell them I need SWIFT number and IBAN number for Internatinal transfer, they say the have no idea what these are.

I have doubt about trusting these people now.
North American banks don't use IBAN numbers. At least for mine, you concat the institution number, transit number and account number together, not necessarily in that order. That's not a BFL think, it's just an issue sending wires between Europe and NA. They should know what a SWIFT number is though, although that is sometimes labeled differently here. My bank calls the SWIFT number the BIC.
^ This.

NA Banks don't use IBAN/SWIFT, they use a Clearing Code and/or Fedwire/ABA code.

They do use SWIFT codes ! Here the information i got from Sonny:

Bank name: XXX
Bank address: XXX
Swift:  XXX
ABA / Routing: XXX
Account Name: XXX
Account Number: XXX
Account Address: XXX

If you call that lousy you have no idea !

Edit: Account information removed on request of BFL

I received the same bank information as Turbor right before I wired $30k to BFL on March 13th, the receipt of which Sonny confirmed on March 14th.  Although I didn't need the SWIFT code, they did provide it to me.  ice_chill's claim that BFL says they don't know their bank's SWIFT number is a lie.
legendary
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Merit: 1005
April 12, 2012, 12:53:20 PM
#67
What about their Dwolla payment option ? any draw back top using it ?
I used it, and it took a few days for them to finally receive payment from me (paid Monday, went through Friday).  Not sure if a wire would be any faster though.  And Sonny kept my original order date as my place in line, not the date when he received the funds.  So really, considering the current backorder, there's no disadvantage I can think of to using Dwolla.
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